I got accepted into a prestige Uni for engineering, but I always wanted to pursue a career in video game designing. I'm stuck, and I'd be going to a 2nd rate Uni for game design as well. Anyone on here with experience making games, coding or anything related to a career in the industry?
TDLR Got once in life time opportunity into good Eng Uni, but dream of going into gaming instead. What should I do /v/?
Making games sucks shit
You're told what to do, spend a week figuring out how to fix the other underpaid morons on your team's mistakes, cut out shit from the E3 trailer in sneaky ways.
Go for real job engineering shit, where you do similar shit, but with respect and better wages.
Learn2mod some games, like falloutNV, as a hobby to scratch that itch.
If you take CompSci, don't go in wanting to work in vidya.
My interest in CS started through video games, but I dropped that hope when I looked at how hard it was to get into the industry. OP, just learn how to make vidya by learning yourself/taking other classes. I know way too many people who went into CS wanting to make video games, then quit or failed due to being too focused on vidya. The only guy I know who got through tried to get hired. When he finally found a studio, the pay was pitiful and he left soon afterwards. Now he makes a lot more.
Video games are a shit job to work in, just learn on the side.
Do you want to study really hard then work really hard and make a lot of money
or do you want to study not very much, work insanely hard to make mediocre money and in the end have very little control over the end product so you can't even take pride in your own work.
Game design is a shitty fucking major. Its a fucking scam and you won't be making vidya you'll enjoy. Be a comp sci or stay in Engineering and learn game design on the side since its related to the shit you'll have to master eventually. Don't be a retard.
take the engineering position
make vidya as a hobby in your spare time while being wealthy instead of being a failed game designer who is either homeless or works for EA
>all these faggots who think a real hands-on game design course isn't a beneficial thing
My University has constant projects going on to grade you, working with other disciplines like programming courses and art courses to produce games, to help you learn, and there's also external companies (vidya and non vidya, for instance BP, Sony, UK government) who come in to give you briefs, and you have to report to them each week like a real job, working along to a brief and their changing demands.
There's also loads of funding available to take projects beyond the classroom and maybe even start your own company.
You're all a bunch of bitter faggots.
>Wasting your life studying in order to waste your life working
>Not getting maximum enjoyment
Double major, or do a double degree over 5 years if your UNI allows it and you can afford it. I did Physics and Comp Sci double major which worked out well after a few years in the industy. I would avoid game design programs as a single major unless your school forces you to take some of the more difficult Comp Sci courses or if you are an extremely disciplined as a self learner. Also start designing games using the tool available right now: IOS, Andriod, XNA, Monogame, Unity. You will be surprised at how much you can accomplish nowadays with those tools and maybe even the amount of money you can make uses them in after a few months.
Funny thing with respect to that picture is that it is true that Comp Sci can be easy if you pick your courses accordingly, but it can also be as hard if not harder than Physics if you take the courses in advanced algorithms, discrete/analysis math, computer automata, and compiler design.
>Be a CompSci grad
>Can't get a job in the field due to "lol no experience" and elitism
>Have a second interview for a job with the state next week that's not in my field, but pays good dosh
Life's funny that way.
>Astronomy above law
ahahah whoever made this is fucking insane.
Might as well start hiring fortune tellers in the government to tell us what they see in the stars.
Seeing as law determines the fate of each society, it should have been in god tier.
Aside from the law and astronomy, it's not a bad list.
>tfw I'm studying culinary arts
That accidental 'v' in the word 'about' indicates that /v/ is all you can think about. An obsession with an online imageboard must have resulted from stunted emotional growth, lack of friends, and deep depression. Likely caused by mother obsession.
When people started requiring a god damn bachelor's degree to get any job. Unless of course you get one and you still can't get a job, in which case you're overqualified for the shit you should've been doing all along.
>graduating with a CompSci degree from a shitty school
That's your mistake. A good CompSci degree program emphasizes stuff that can't be done by the average Indian programmer that works for 20 cents an hour.
My main focus was information systems security, but you gotta have like ten years of experience to even break into that field. Didn't even bother with programming jobs because the programming field gets really fucking elitist.
You know that Arts majors typically go on to become BAs and the like, right? You don't actually have to become a historian with a history major.
It's also possible to go into academia if you are exceptional.
Civil Engineer here, do Computer Engineering, and you'll be able to North write software, firmware, AND design hardware for all aspects of computer science, video games included.
Trust me, the computer engineering degree will have you making 6 digits in 6 years, easily. Please please please do not squander this opportunity. Get the degree, and you'll find that video game companies (and everyone else in tech) will be incredibly impressed and eager to recruit you with that degree.
Good luck, and don't waste this chance.
I am a video game designer at a major AAA console developer. I have a degree in computer science and a masters in business.
I worked for 4 years as a programmer and then switched to design. Life is good but let me tell you something: The quality of designers is really, really varied. Some of the designers at my company are amazing and you can tell after a 10 minute conversation with them how fucking good they are at their jobs. Others are gibbering retards who struggle to play the simplest games on the market.
This suggests to me that getting into design is more luck than skill.
You got a once in a lifetime opportunity and you think that music in games is shit tier?
Stick to engineering pal, you don't have fuckin shit going for you in games if you think music complete shit and not needed in games.
My point was you don't control the direction you take in your life. You just ride the waves and better shit happens.
>Get a programmer job
>Become a code monkey wage slave
>Get the job I'm interviewing for
>I'll basically be self-supervised and have my own office
>Too stupid to understand they are being compared because they are equally useless
>Calls the other guy retarded
Just because you can't do shit but sit on the grass and look at the stars like the NEET you are doesn't make it an important field in anyway.
Not that guy, but I'm in the same position. If you live in the U.S./want to listen to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the fields that are expected to have the most job growth in the next 10 years are software developers, information security analysts, and computer systems analysts.
>Making games sucks shit
this is only true at massive companies like EA, ubisoft, etc.
work somewhere like relic, united front, media molecule, platinum, next level, klei - you know, somewhere with under 200 people on staff but that still makes good titles. that's where happiness lies
>Now compare that with the potential jobs of the other things on that list.
Here's the solution. Don't be a completely mediocre student, go to a top-tier university and get good marks and you'll be fine regardless of your major.
Well, that's good it all worked out then. I was just commenting on how you need to take a lot more factors into account rather than just the degree. That's why OP's image is bullshit, the degree is just one factor out of many in terms of getting a job.
Comp Sci has been a crap shoot for the last 15 years. Try your best at getting some internships, figure out what works for ya and try to land a job with a company you interned with. DBA can be a terminal position that caps out fairly low pay, unless you are an elite consultant. Networking can pay a lot but requires piles of certifications. To do well in terms of money you have to be elite or figure out a way to be self employed.
Good thing you'll never be able to do anything but continue paying for our luxurious lives.
While you're out busting your ass to get a good education so you can bust your ass at a job, we'll be enjoying the fruits of your labor.
Well of course if you compare the cream of the crop of all things they're equally as good. But in general the majors towards the top of the list have better jobs more easily available.
>trying this hard to save face
You clearly have no idea how important astronomers and physicists are, or that they tend to make six figures since you need a doctorate degree to even get a job.
>go to uni to do software engineering
>first two years are fine, lots of programming and i do well
>more theoretical courses start happening like a course which is entirely guest lectures and writing journals about our feelings on engineering
If you're really living off your parents and not even trying to look for work or helping around the house at all you're a fucking leech and better off dead
Oh yes, i'm sure you have plenty of time to enjoy yourself! I mean, you're only busy like, 60% of your day? That's nothing!
By the way, thanks for paying for my $2000 computer, I know you must have worked hard for it.
Why do you stupid fucks still not understand.
If you want to learn how to make the vidya, learn it on your own time. In school, learn something that's at least Low Tier, earn a living off of that, and then figure out how to make vidya by yourself.
Not from the united states, what's the teaching career called? or major or whatever you call them.
>tfw i bumblefucked my way into a specialist software engineering program at a prestigious uni even though i fucking suck at math
>did really well in my compsci courses but i had to take a year off to bump up my abysmal math marks to decent levels
I'm starting my classes in September. Am I fucked?
I'm only busy about 20% of the day. You start sweating whenever any new welfare legislation is announced, and one day that PC will be repossessed when something comes through. I will laugh when that happens.
You appear to be learning it well enough to fucking progress. Suck up to the right people and you'll learn the necessary skills or attain the needed networking connections so that your GPA shit won't matter too much.
Eh its not so much what you major in as it is that you actually get a degree. It shows that you can commit to and get work done, and do it well. I know business majors who are programmers, history majors who went on to be mid level white collar managers, etc.
It is a bit different for the STEM field yes, but with many jobs you learn a good amount if not most of what you need to know from the job itself, not what you learned in college
Keeping in mind that the best-paying private schools are probably not going to take some kid with only a BA/Dip Ed. or similar, they're going to want more expertise in the given field.
>tfw I'm studying Bioengineering
Good thing I live in California
Electrical Engineering master race. All other engineers do not apply. EE-tan is my waifu.
>b-but but software engineering!!!!
kek. I can do your job and more. I have both software AND hardware knowledge.
I'm a NEET. I've had a really fucked-up childhood which subsequently still affects my present-day life. I could point the finger all day, but fact is I need to get my ass into working order and finish where I dropped off when I dropped-out.
Any anons in the process of turning their life around?
Any Computer Science majors here who can help an anon out and let me know what the job market / salary's like? Do you like it? Wish you would've majored in something else?
I fucked up and pursued the wrong major for two years and am now switching to CS as a rising junior. It sounds goddamn awful, but it's not really that bad since I have a four-years-renewable full ride, so in the end I'll only be paying one year of tuition (I'd graduate in CS three years from now). However, I'm kinda stuck between switching to CS and an electrical engineering degree - and the difference would mean graduating three years from now, or four years from now (engineering curriculum is STACKED). The time to decide is now. What's /v/'s advice? Any based anons wanna help me out?
>tfw Bio undergrad
>tfw no experience so slim
chance at decent job or grad school acceptance
>tfw can't get experience since internships want people with experience
Guess I should start working on my sub making skills for after graduation
Really doesn't matter if its what you're set on, but CJ isn't bad. I'm doing history because my school doesn't have CJs.
And besides if your state is anything like mine then you learn everything in a 5.5 month academy and during FTO
I did engineering and I do games on the side
I've made an app or two and they made me a chunk of change, but in order to make more money off them I need to spend more time.
Just don't have it with my work
Psychology can be fine, especially with Neuroscience getting better. But it's really easy for psychologists to practice faulty science and for other psychologists to circle jerk over it.
every time i've failed a course with one exception (a dick professor) was because i didn't go to enough classes
unfortunately i passed a lot of courses without attending a single lecture so i kind of created a shitty precedent for myself
HOW FUCKING RETARDED DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO ACTUALLY BELIEVE GOING TO UNI FOR "GAME DESIGN" IS A GOOD IDEA?
HOW HARD IS IT TO LOOK UP CURRENT ENGINEERS ON CURRENT GAMES AND SEE THAT THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR FUCKING DEGREES FOR "GAME DESIGN" SCHOOL AND GOT THEM FROM ACCREDITED, RANKED, ENGINEERING SCHOOLS
>Study computer science
>You're likely to land a programming job
>Said job will have virtually nothing to do with Computer Science
>You'll be creating log in pages for shitty companies for the rest of your life
>Dad was a cop
>Always admired how badass and cool he was
>tfw I am a huge sissy faggot who will never be half the man he was
Yup, that's part of the reason for me doing history, It has more flexibility overall compared to a CJ
And like I said, it doesn't matter, you could be an art history major and become a LEO, you don't even need a college degree
my major is software engineering. does that fall under god tier engineering or mid tier computer science? and why? i live in silicon valley, plenty of job opportunities for all levels of experience.
>tfw molecular biology/biochem
Feels good to basically be the only biofag to not be completely assfucked upon graduation.
Then again, most jobs for undergrads are basically lab washing monkeys
They are super depressed and constantly on the verge of suicide. They make themselves feel temporarily a bit better by trying to trick other people into the same hole they dug themselves into.
Picking up hobbies is easy.
Go look into wood-work or hiking or something.
Anyone can do it if they want to.
It might be a struggle to start with, but you can push through that, or suffer being a sissy faggot forever.
>not listing education as at least top tier
Enjoy your country once it's overrun by shitlords from Generation X who know more about their iPhone than they do grammar or history, nerd.
>Art major (Graphic Design)
>In shit tier
You know, its always nice to be reminded that the past 4 years and thousands of dollars I put into College isn't worth shit and just a waste of my time.
I guess I really am just clinging to false hope that everything will work out.
>tfw im in the same job field as my dad
We're CompSci bros for life.
Move to North Dakota making 60k a year with a highschool diploma working in oil
Also low cost of living out there
LEO is also another good one
Make six figures if you put in the OT and retire in 20-25 years, some times with an 80% pension, which is usually 80k a year for the rest of your life and your only 42/47
Most schools would have you major in a mix of education and whatever language you wanted to teach. You could think of them both as minors, but they add up to one degree, I suppose.
I hate to be the one to tell you all this, but you aren't going to get that six figure income you've been dreaming about. Yes, even the ones that are lying to me right now as they type up their response; you too will be a loser for the rest of your life working as a math teacher or in Walgreens pharmacy.
When I started in 2008, it was much lower than I thought, around 40-50k a year. (in Canada) To do anything you need experience.
Wish I would of became an engineer instead, since in Canada professional engineering associations do a good job of protecting the market and salaries of engineers. Tempted to leave the field and take up a trade since I find the work I do in my job dreadful. (worked for my dad during summers as an HVAC mechanics so I know the earning potential and the workload)
>study for 4 years
>graduate and make ~$50k starting (CAD)
>pay off debts
>buy whatever you want
>make games in free time throughout this process and afterwards
>study for what, 2 or 3 years?
>enter highly competitive field
>don't get a job
>student debt, no money for what you want
I'm a little biased as I am studying engineering, but I was choosing between computer animation and engineering in my final high school year, no regrets yet. Plus my co-op program pays for my tuition.
the shitter who made this pic was self conscious about their regretful life decisions
Finding a stable studio job is hard, but it pays good. Up to 35/hour, some people I know even earn 120/hour. Those are extremely atypical though, so don't expect anything close.
>Got a job working at the post office
>Make $14.60 an hour
>health, vision, and dental
>Get literally every holiday ever off
>Was the lowest person working there
Seriously, work at your local post office. Your typical mail carrier is driving a BMW.
>Enjoy dealing with stupid people that only got in because they are needed to fit a quota.
My favorate part was how Law was high tier, yet all the basic components of a law career were shit tier, like philosophy and political science. OP or artist of that image had as much contact with basic starting pay data on majors as they had with women
go to Fort Mac Canada instead and double that amount with only your Great 10.
not nearly as competitive as game design
engineers are ALWAYS needed, and with my co-op program I'll work at 6 different placements by the time I graduate, thus gaining work experience and connections
>All these faggots talking about other people's majors like they know anything about them
Just like ASSFAGGOTS whining about how the top players play and being snotty about their every move.
>People not taking location/cost of living into account when looking at income
What might be a pretty solid income in the South is near poverty levels in the Northeast
I make $15/hour just at my summer job when I'm home for school, but then again my state has the highest cost of living in the country
$60k a year is baseline to be doing alright
For me, I respect it a lot, but it has a weird position as the only product of humanities people don't shit on because it is seen as 'money-making', even though average pay is wierd and low.
If you love law, then I have a lot of respect for you, because you probably also care about philosophy, discourse, and interpersonal communication.
Thanks for the advice. Fuck. I'd rather lose another year of my youth / gain another year of debt than spend the next 50+ years wishing I would have. Of all the engineering degrees, I think electrical is for me - the program at my school is actually somewhat similar to CS, just with a handful more credits required.
Open to hear other opinions as well.
>tfw pretty much every male in my family is in the trades or a blue collar work environment
>tfw computer science major
>tfw no one in my family understands me
The internship I was supposed to get this summer fell through at the last minute (company's fault, not mine at least) which is fine since I only just completed my freshman year, but what isn't fine is how people like my dad would rather I dig ditches over the summer than work on personal projects and honing my skills to ensure that I have things to put on my resume in the future.
>tfw I went in pre-pharm and hated it
>tfw I went into computer science and hated it
>tfw I went into actuarial science and hated it
>Now I've got only two years left to finish college before my scholarship runs out
God fucking damnit I hate myself. Any advice, asides from recommending I kill myself?
Realistically, shit tier, unless you really really want to become a paramedic. It's one of the most stressful jobs you can possibly do, and it's demonstrated by the suicide rate among paramedics.
>tfw my dream job requires a Ph.D
Sheesh guys, I don't want all of my golden years in life to go to waste, what do I do?
Just lie on your CV. I majored in Literature and work in network administration. 3 years later and even when I finally fessed up to my higher ups no one cared since I can do the job.
Not a dream gig for me but it's w/e.
>mfw I'm majoring in Business Admin with a specialization in HR and a minor in organizational psychology.
So what's better, Computer Science or Computer Engineering?
I'm torn between the two, and I can't find any ambition for a job after university outside of the pipe dream of making my dream video games. Maybe robotics, I don't know.
I'm already a year in on the engineering side, should I just stay?
Plan to spend your golden years when your 60
My father is a doctor and he said it was the worst thing he's ever done.
Spent his entire youth in school and never had any money until he was at his midlife crisis
>With law you get both!
Law is incredibly oversaturated. Good luck getting a job unless you're from a top-tier law school. Any job you do get will be soul-destroying.
Any anthropology majors out there? I'm unsure if this would be the best course to take if my ultimate desire is to travel the glove while working. Would an English degree be more realistic for finding work outside of the states?
I really wanna go on an expedition in some remote location or venture through foreign lands and cities, yet I'm not to sure what field of anthropology would enable this.
>Game to go to shitty community/tech college
>It's made to just get half your credits there and transfer
>I know I'll get fucked right up if I resort to student loans, so I'm sticking to pell grants
>I'm gonna get out with an associates in computer science
Really all I'm happy about is having something to wave around saying I'll actually work and not be as high of a risk of being a lazy fuck.
I haven't learned anything anyways. Just basic codemonkey concepts.
>I took C++ class meant for the engineering students as a side elective
>Meant to go from 0 to coding
>Went as far as three semesters of CIS does in just one.
>Spent his entire youth in school and never had any money until he was at his midlife crisis
That's why you apply to scholarships and tutor classes while finishing your MA/PhD/MPhil/DPhil etc. You can live comfortably if you aren't a shit-muncher. If you're just going to scrape into an MA or PhD course, don't bother.
Do what you like, as long as its not something really specialized, like art history
As much as the STEMs love telling you you wont get a job, the fact that you have a degree is more important than what it specifically is, be it history, econ, English, etc
not worse than hitler but if you're honestly living off welfare and not even trying to succeed in life then you really are better off dead.
your parents have probably had that thought, too. at some point, you mother or father must've quietly thought to themselves, "wow, we'd have a better life if this kid just disappeared", but then quickly silenced themselves because they "love" you.
do something with this life you have.
>Studying to become a teacher
It's like you get to keep all your kiddie vacations but still make money!
>finance 8th best paying
>Doing an animation major at a Cal State University
>might double major with asian studies because why the fuck not, I'm studying abroad in Japan
>shouldn't change majors at this point and accumulate more debt
>mfw my job options will be completely limited after I'm done with school
Since we're all arguing about this shit, I'll lay out something for you roody-poos that at least 90 percent of the lurkers probably already realize:
The perfect major is different from person to person, and trying to establish a priori ('self evident' you retards) 'true' tier lists for majors is like trying to figure out who someone should marry or date.
People have different skillsets, of which the only way we as roody-poos have to judge is economic output, which is a really fucking shitty way of determining value, because plenty of shit has non-monetary value.
The respectable STEM kid realizes that his world is better for the breadth of sciences and arts and humanities, and learns to appreciate other people's employment of skill and talent while making lots of money.
The good humanities kid realizes that he is making a conscious choice to go against what would be the 'most straightforward' path to success because their skill-sets and interests do not align perfectly with the current market structure, and appreciate that the STEM people have different interests and take great pride in the applicability of their work.
Eh i realized I was being a fagot by typing this much but I might as well post it.
TLDR everyone is faggot
>RAIN OF SHEKELS just work for big corporations
>Major in Xology / pre-med
>Have to be an intern for x months/1 year
medicine may pay nice, but it is not only a bitch to study alot of shit you won't need to know, but also is alot of time sank into it to get your degrees
what's your scholarship from? Academia, sports or because you're a minority?
If it's from academics then are you just not finding the courses stimulating enough or what. You have to realise that the courses you are doing won't be like the job
Admitting you are a social scientist, or really anyone or any major that isnt MUH ENGI on this board might be a bad idea.
Anyway, to answer your question, if you want to travel the glove, as you put it, learn excellent skills in your field, adn for hte love of fuck, get good at administrative skills and LANGAUGE SKILLS
enjoy being a teacher
enjoy being a teacher
enjoy being a teacher
no better than MUSIC. enjoy no money. Only 4.0 on everything top top top top kids get into NASa, and newsflash, astronomy is their second degree for funsies.
actually only good job in that list that gets money
good money but holy shit you have to sink 7+ years of study, paying money to colleges and for your education to BEGIN your career then at least 5 years to actually get promoted to a decent position
It's passable. I spent my undergrad and the first part of my postgrad at a better university than that, and my friends who finished their JD are still struggling to find solid employment.
I hate images like this.
Absolutely anyone is vital for society, as long as you are working. There is no "shit tier" carreer.
And about your dilemma, OP, choose what you think will give you greater satisfaction, a clean conscience that you tried to pursue your dream (if you fail)/Achieving your dream, though it may not be what you wanted (If you succeed) vs. stability and prosperity.
There is no wrong or shameful choice.
Thank god I got into co op for my second year
I need the exp
I'd love to do that, but I've only got 2 years left at college. Unless, I dunno, getting all A's or some shit would impress someone to give me money or some shit.
Combination of poorfag scholarship and academic scholarship. My family went under the poverty line for a while due to one of my parents getting let go. Since I never went below a 3.0 GPA during high school, I was able to qualify for it. But fuck me, I'm at like 2.4 GPA at college.
>Theatre not on this list
enjoy not loving your job
>b-but at l-least I'll have a job!
Literally git gud
But this isn't /v/ related. So i'll just point out that Ken Levine was a playwriting major in college.
>play the Sims IRL
>Only Major and Masters, both a joke
>ridiculous demand for them
>late game Managers make a million a year
>having an animation degree in anywhere but CalArts
>go to apply for internships since no experience biofag
>internships say no experience is required on the initial page
>majority of internship is dedicated to past research and lab work descriptions
what the fuck. how am i suppose to get experience when internships require experience
I took a stagecraft class as an elective one year.
Basically the class just built and took down the production the dramafags put on that semester.
It was actually pretty dang fun.
At school and university (before I dropped out of a bio-med-sci degree) I had sub-par mathematical skills, above average skills in science and technology and exceptional oral and writing skills.
The liberal arts are my forte and always have been. Am I then a shit tier person?
>able to be hired by financial institutions or computational simulation companies who need advanced mathematical models
>similar to above
>can also win a Nobel Prize if a genius
>work for pharmaceuticals, paint industry or petroleum to increase gas efficiency or find new alternative
You got me on this one. Pretty damn useless.
>No such thing as promotions for doctors because they already make a six-seven figure salary after residency
>Definitely worth it if you know how to manage your patient schedule/work load
Basically, if you're not retarded (which you shouldn't be if you're going into these fields to begin with), you're set for life. Better than 99% rest of America.
wow I'm glad a bunch of people who aren't even old enough to hold a bachelor's are yammering on about DUH NAH MAN ALL THE MONEY BE IN THIS NOW
how about you stick to talking about fucking anime and video games and let actual adults talk about everything else, ok 4chan?
Is it a bad idea to go for a degree in Astronomy? As a teenager I was always fascinated with space and everything that existed in it, and I wanted to contribute my knowledge and time to help out studying it.
But now I am having some second thoughts, will my life go down the drain after those long years of getting a Ph.D, is it really worth it to waste all of those years studying in a god damned school? What do I do?
isn't it obvious? all the times your dick was sucked gives you the necessary experience to suck a mean dick
infinite employment cycle
>major in sucking dick
>suck dicks of people majoring in sucking dick
History major here. Probably going to pursue some graduate degrees a career in teaching and/or film since I know influential people in both fields.
I'm totally A-Okay with my field in the shit-tier because I know it adds nothing to improve society BUT
1.) History makes for GREAT films and books, whether that is a fiction or a scholarly objective historical book or documentary
2.) It's my passion
totally irrelevant i know
I just want to inspire others. Even if I so much as wrote a shitty book that got like, one god awful piece of fanfiction, I would be satisfied.
But I have crippling anxiety when it comes to doing anything creative, so I'm finding it near impossible to get started. Plus all of my skills are grade school tier from no practice.
I want to get a job that pays enough to get therapy or antidepressants or whatever can help me get over this. I also need money to survive while I create, create, create until I can release one of my creations to the world at large.
>not teaching yourself everything you will ever need to know
>ranking based on muh jobz
>most jobs don't even care what degree you have, not even STEM if you have the right connections and know the right stuff
There's a professor at my Uni that's an English major but learned enough chemistry on his own that he teaches it.
>inb4 shit uni
It's one of the best in the country outside of Ivy League.
Pretty much any, most places don't care about the degree, only that you have one, but then again /v/ is full of highschoolers that don't know anything.
No, it's what you learn and if you wanted to learn it.
Nigga, Astronomy is the science that will lead us to the biggest leap in humanity's history.
Coupled with technology, engineering and etc of course, but when we become the masters of space, it will be the breaktrough of the history.
Yes A lot has happened in general but from 20-24 I painfully started getting my shit in order. About to finish my studies and enter the workforce after this final 4 months. I'm not where I want to be yet but I'm doing a lot better than when I started.
Maybe you're right, but I didn't really get that impression from Biomedical Science. I could even handle university level chemistry okay.
That's not the point though, I'm just better at subjects like history and social sciences.
>men rarely get teaching positions
In elementary school, maybe. I had several male teachers in middle school, and nearly all of my teachers (except for English) were men in high school.
Sorry. You kinda expect to get shit on on /v/
Sorry for the misunderstanding, brother
More like welcome to Capitalism.
People can only live their lives to the fullest if they are born into some rich ass family or hit the stroke of luck in America's market. The rest are left to stroke the riches' ego and inflate their bank accounts.
I'm way too poor and unmotivated for college and it seems like they're kicking everyone out of the military.
What are some decent jobs that I can get where I don't need to go to college for?
I mean real jobs, not mcjobs like Walmart or Mcdonalds
>Half way through my History degree
>Heading down the path to be in law enforcement
I don't even need a degree, its just a good versatile fallback and something I enjoy
but thats a lie though because my 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th grade teachers were all guys. Plus my History teacher from 10 grade now teaches at an elementary school. I'm pretty confident i can work at an elementary school
Personally, I wouldn't bother with history unless you:
a) Really want to be a high-school teacher
b) Are going to a top university are are capable of maintaining a flawless average and thereafter producing publishable material.
Following the romanticized generic life isn't the best thing you can do. The best thing you can do is get as much enjoyment out of life as possible.
There's nothing else to do, it's all meaningless so enjoy it, don't waste half of it working.
I'm in my second year of college as a Physics major, and I'm scared to continue with it. Not only am I worried that it's going to be difficult as fuck, I'm also concerned that it's going to be hell finding a job (unless I go to grad school, which I'd rather not). But on the other hand, I don't know what other degree programs I would even care to get into. What should I do?
>In the few weeks summer break between my internship I want to kill myself out of boredom.
This is truly the worst thing that can happen to a human being. I hope I never fall into this protestant vicious cycle where you are so consumed by your job your mind simply can't fully enjoy other activities. Worst of all, you are actually happy running endlessly in your little comfortable mouse wheel and you think it is normal because everyone around you is doing the same, except that lazy mouse on the corner of the cage. I've seen it happen to everyone around me, everyone wanting to build a career or a family. I've seen it happen to my mom and dad, to my friends, to coworkers, to my sister.
These are truly wicked days we live in. You go to your job everyday, when you are not working you are thinking about it, when you go out you are networking, the only books you read are self-motivating "how to be productive and happy!" crap, you only watch tv shows and videogames so you can make small talk at the office. All of this for what? So you can spend a couple of weeks in Paris every year with children that barely know you and retire at the age of 50 so you can die of depression in a Caribbean shithole because of a deep seated regret for wasting your life. I'd rather be a hobo than live such a life, which is a truly depressing, because I'm 100% sure I'd probably be some traveling hobo by now if it weren't for my trust fund babby status.
>mfw girlfriend's taking bar exam and just gonna live off of her
and be a stay at home dad and play video games for the rest of my life
Biomedical fag here.
I don't know shit about chemistry and am at the top of my class. It will be important, but you will acquire these things when time comes.
Math too, Statistic is very fucking important for the scientific process in general, but this is more about logical thinking than numbers. we invented PCs and calculators for crunching numbers.
And having good subjective thought is good. We biomedicals are primarly scientists, and science is, in the end of the day, phillosophy. Being able to think out of the box is the single most important thing a scientist need to be able to do.
Start thinking of yourself more as a scientist and less of a biomedical student and you'll do fine.
I hate the fact that I'm back on this shitty fucking board out of boredom, but fuck it, I can help someone.
Yeah. I got taken out of school in the first grade so my parents could "home-school" me and be dipshit traveling musicians. But being dipshit traveling musicians, they weren't educators, so once they realized that they had to actually get their hands dirty and spend time teaching me, and that I wasn't going to sit there with a Wal-Mart brand "EDUTAINMENT" activity book and teach myself? They gave up. I'm 28 years old now, and up until a year ago, my education had ended at the first grade level. Even after I turned 18, I was still chained to them thanks to their shitty financial decisions, their shitty failing "business" that *I* had to keep afloat as Lead Technological Slave Boy, and their ailing health. Finally, turned out my father was eligible for Disability (neurological disorder), and my mother could be paid to be his care-giver, so they didn't need me to keep them afloat anymore.
>society with no vision or foresight
TOP FUCKING KEK
One of my professors was reminiscing about his experiences traveling the glove while working different sites and villages and it just seemed like the perfect life.
I haven't actually taken anything beyond introductory courses but if administrative skills are a must then I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and rid myself of my introversion.
How about a mechanic? Its kind of like fixing a big oily computer that moves and shit, and with the diagnostic technology nowadays it seems pretty easy to learn how to fix a car
Plus all sorts of people would be clamoring after my dick for discounts on how to fix their shit
I just pack shelves at a safeway in australia
I failed high school so I couldn't do anything else. But I don't mind the job and it pays enough money that I can afford to live and buy PC upgrades when I need to.
February of 2013, I signed up for a GED prep course with the intention of becoming an electrician when I got my GED. Told my GED instructor about my plans and she just about shit herself trying to convince me to continue my education, so I took her up on it. Turns out my zero income made it so my Pell grant would completely cover the cost of my tuition at a local community college, so full steam ahead. Got my GED in May 2013 with a 3.7 GPA (which is sort of disingenuous to say since it's just 5 tests (or it was, GED has changed since then)) and started going to a local community college last August.
Been a NEET that is putting his life back on track and this year I will get my "bachelor degree?" (I dunno how is it called in muriland) so I'll have to choose a career. Sciences, math and the likes never interested me but I perform very well in history, literature, classics etc.
The question is, should I pick a law degree for the dosh or major in some philology for the enjoyement.
Is law worth it?
Not that guy, but the problem is you're a parasite who's living off of the work of other human beings. A society can deal with a few parasites, but enough parasites will eventually kill the host.
However you rationalize it, you're wasting other people's resources. Resources that could enrich and enliven the lives of people who are actually worthy of care.
>the only intro level programming course this semester is on game design
I would like to eventually make vidya in my spare time, but what the fuck would that class even teach?