HOW DO I DEFEAT THIS MOTHERFUCKER
Dark Messiah thread I guess, this game
>Not saving her and then killing her as she runs for freedom
I was hoping for this since i played Oblivion and DMoMM. Instead we got this turd that is the Skyrim combat system aka hold and release LMB for a horribly animated slo-mo execution
Dark Messiah melee combat is shit though. You've got light attacks that barely do anything, enemy attacks with fucked up timings and range (like the goblins that can hit you with their short ass clubs from a mile off or all the enemies that hit before their swing). It looks neat but if they took out the physics kills (from dark messiah) I think Skyrim's melee combat would actually be better.
More importantly, i hope you made Xana beg for her life.
>Dark Messiah melee combat is shit though
You don't know shit about video games. You had fast hits that could stagger enemies, heavy hits that break guards. Then you got specific weapons for each type, daggers for slicin' and dicin', staves for knocking things around. Sword for both.
This is one of my most re-installed games of all times. I always go back and play it again every couple years. Actually there was one time when by shear coincidence I managed to complete the game on the exact same day I had completed it the previous year. Confused me for a minute when I was looking at the timestamps on the savegames and thought they were out of order.
>I'm not keen on giant spiders in video games
Enjoy the spider temple.
No, I played it on hard almost every time, and it's been several times through the years. The game is fun but melee weapon combat is just ass.
Spells are nice (pretty much easy mode in themselves), bows are at least functional, and kicking is probably the best part of the game. I've even done a stealth playthrough which wasn't as terrible as it could have been. Fighting with swords though is just ass.
I loved this game just for the glorious kicking mechanic. Otherwise combat actually does feel good
and you can see your own body
TES and anything else would benefit from something like this so much, as well as magic to be crafty with like in >>253885091
>Fighting with swords though is just ass.
I just can't follow you mang. I've played the game three times as a pure swordsman, and a few more times with a combination of swords, staves and daggers. The game has supreme melee combat.
Ohhh I want to play this game again so badly but no matter what I do I cant install it. it crashes when I start it. no one on the internet doesn't have same problem as me. I have windows 7. compatibility mode doesn't work. Would it work on virtual machine windows XP or what should i do?? help
Now there's a game that's actually great. Dark Messiah is fun, but Arx is fucking awesome. I never realized they were the same studio though.
I really wanted to explore more about the planet. Were introduced to the concept of the guild of travelers but it goes nowhere. Of course that's not really what Arx is about but fuck it.
Just a PSA plug here, make sure you use Arx Libertatis if you decide to (re)install Arx Fatalis. Pretty much necessary for the game to run well on modern systems... or older ones for that matter.
All those Skyrim hype threads where people thought it'd have DMs combat. All those tears when it didn't, if only.
For a demon that deals in deception she's pretty fucking transparent in the final cutscene if you release your dad.
"I have uh... done your bidding master, I didn't want to betray you or anything I swear"
Also is it possible to kill Leanna and Xana?
Makes me wonder, are there other engines that could work well with something like TES? I really want Bethesda to switch and git gud with coding, but the lack of competition makes it easier for them to get away with it
First part after the tutorial is in a city. Then it goes on an island occupied by orcs for most of the game whilst navigating temple ruins, followed by its underground catacombs. Then there's a little more stuff to do on the island before going back to the city.
I found it a bit broken (atleast once you get the botomless quiver or what is that thing that gives you unlimited arrows called), you could usually just clear entire areas from distance and deal with the enemies indoors/close quarters using stealth. I think I had a little trouble with one of the orc bosses but otherwise you can snipe pretty much anything. I even killed the final boss from a vantage point across the entire area without him actually doing anything to me.
>Your pretty little friend can come on board without becoming a pretty little pincushion!
>I'll just lower the pretty little gangplank then.
Get behind it, and start spamming its legs and belly. The NPC will keep trying to rotate instead of attacking, make sure you have enough health potions.
This is a really dumb boss battle in my opinion
>Moves to look up her skirt
If you go on the DM community page on steam all the screenshots are of that bit on the little rowboat where you sit opposite Leanna.
a ranger has
his foot in the doorfor most of the game but bow combat just isn't good enough unless you are going for the "good" ending and get the undead shitkickingbow near the end of the game
>Tfw you will never explore frozen surface in Arx Fatalis 2
Hopefully having higher-spec consoles this time around doesn't hold back the game for PC as much either, provided that extra power isn't wasted on bullshit. Hearing about all the cut content in Oblivion was kind of depressing probably because it was a very early title for the system, all of Skyrim's seemed mostly due to time restraints.
>mfw when i got to the spider pit after the dragon fight
another game unpassable for me, fuck
First time I got here I had to quit the game and nope in solitude for 5 minutes. Big fucking hairy spiders jumping at your face were bad enough but as this bitch descended I knew I won't be able to take it.
I don't get arachnophobes, I'm scared of literally every bug and insect BUT spiders.
The above ground levels in Metro Last Light where huge fucking bugs are all over the place were almost impossible for me to pass, I had to pause every minute or so to just sit still and breath.
But spiders just don't bother me, real life or in game.
I had slight problems with the last town area and those fucking ghouls, I just used melee through the whole game though. Even then it wasn't that hard as long as you moved a lot.
Get fire bow and infite arrows
Go left to wooden thingie then go to other side of it
Shoot him for ten minutes and then shoot dragon then him again
Use rope arrow to get down
>having a litteral succubus as your waifu
>not having a pure virgin as your waifu
As soon a hero appears and wrecks your shit she would be all over his dick and laugh at you.
Leena would NEVER do that, even if you get yous ass whooped she would stay with you forever and ever and love you and hold hands
But anon, you're not a pussy. It's a phobia. Anyway, I did some research and the file on gamefront is not available in some countries.
In order to download it, use a US proxy. A good proxy extension for chrome is Hola.
Why don't you try this out?
but they'll still jump of ceilings and shit.
Anyway anon. do you have the retail version or steam version. Because the no spider patch won't work on the steam version, since it's gcf based and the last version of Dark Messiah on Steam uses Vpks
So, did you manage to get it?
Because I have it right here and I can upload it somewhere if you still can't get it I really like this game and I think more people should try this
Ye, got it. Installed it already, i will try it later.
The fear from when i modded skyrim is back, walking through caves thinking that mod is bugged and spider is about to jump at my ass
From a thread on systemshock.org
« 13. May 2008, 16:41:22 »
Well, personally I would delete all spiders EXCEPT the ones surrounding Sim Unit 3; provide a nice few moments of terror for people who aren't expecting it.
« 13. May 2008, 16:50:01 »
ss2user: correct, it's been renamed in advance, probably by myself, so it will work flawlessly with the modmanager.
Accoch63: This mod isn't for pussies who don't like spiders. They should just get over it. This mod is for people who have an abnormal fear of spiders and therefor cannot play the game. Leaving a few spiders in would miss the point, as people with a severe arachnophobia couldn't continue the game at this point.
Why do people have so many issues at understand what a phobia means?
>Leena would NEVER do that
>rides on Sareth's shoulders the whole game even though it's supposed to be her expedition
>tries to kill him when he disagrees with her and refuses to kill the girl that saved his life
Leanna is the definition of a manipulative cunt. She'll absolutely drop you the moment she finds it convenient.
dunno but that's not cool at all fuck
>Let Father go
>Think he's going to betray me
>HA HA, NOW LETS GO RULE THE WORLD SON
As an arachnophobic i'll say that doing something like that wouldn't really kill an arachnophobic person, but it would scare them off more than any thing ever. Placing a real, big, fluffy spider suddenly near them on the other hand...
I like how the endings are handled.
Paragon of a moralfag
Neutral ending where Sareth uses the power of the skull to carve his own path, what he does exactly is left to the player's interpretation
And joining your dad without some hokey betrayal shit.
Sareth's actions always feel natural based on your decisions.
Ok, so i guess I have a few months before this goes on sale in steam again. I want to want to watch videos of the spider pit, in hopes that I will get over it.
Is it like skyrim where they're just in random places in the wilderness? One of the most terrifying spider encounters I had was when I was coming down a mountain in broad daylight, and a frostbite spider was just idling in the middle of a fucking river. What was it doing there?
that was completely surprising to me too, he looks like one of those "now you've served your purpose and I no use of you, etc" but instead hes all "hey son, lets go play ball"
It's not open world so there is not "wilderness" if that's what you mean. You just go forwards and bitchslap everything, there is a pit with spiders, as far i remember later there spiders sometimes.
the game is completely linear, there is a few places you can exploit rope arrows to skip stuff but you are basically going down corridors, also this game has some of the scariest spiders, they crawl on ceilings and walls, they leap at you, and at least one area is completely pitch black and you can hear them surrounding you.
Specs have nothing to do with gameplay, as Dark Messiah as proven.
This is the other problem besides AAA dev retardation, the entire vidya community is obsessed with MUH GRAFIX despite better graphics contributing nothing.
What's your favourite weapon /v/?
The Naga Silksword is mine and not because it's a Katana.
Yes, no, maybe.
It works but it's buggy. There's an open source port of it that requires original game files. The open source port works perfectly fine.
I want to keep Xana, but those holy weapons you get when you purge her are so... tempting. And the demon form gimmick is useless which you will only use to quickly gain health from a weakened enemy.
Also, playing DM on Hardcore is real fucking bullshit, enemies need to be finished off by stabbing them through the heart at least THREE TIMES before they die. Combine that with fighting multiple enemies without any possibility of enviroment kills and you're fucked.
Played through it somewhat fine using steam version a week or two ago. Few annoying crashes.
I still fucking hate the crypt levels though.. They can go Lich my balls with much haste.
This fucking game man.
>"Release me son and I shall grant you untold power!(lol yeah right)! Here, have this sexy chick help you along"
>fast-forward the end of the game
>"My lord, I don't think it's a good idea to release the lord of evil and destruction and all, since you know, he's evil. You could take the power for yourself! Who knows what'd happen if you actually released him."
>release him anyway
>"You actually released me? I can't believe it HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA , I love you son, now let's rule the world together."
Best thing ever because you know it's all evil from there on out.
Kill Undead cyclops.
"That's how you forge an alliance with Stonehelm"
>Rescue Leanna from Spider pit.
>Kick her back down into the pit.
>Xana or Leana
>A sexy succubus slave that will do whatever you want her to without question because you are her master forever
>She's a girl and shit
>literally no Xana pics
Seriously, what the fuck?
Multiple endings and all I feel like everyone should save Leanna at least once. Preferably first playthrough because killing her is so much more fun.
First time I killed her it was the move where you run her through and
boother off the end of your sword. I almost cried it was so awesome
"YOU WON'T USE MY ANYMORE WENCH"
"RUAAAH!" Off the sword she goes.
I actually saved her on my first run. Refused to kill Xana, of course, was actually surprised when she attacked afterwards. Didn't expect Leanna to do something like that, especially since she couldn't even handle a ghoul and a single necromancer while together with another wizard.
What I didn't like about Dark Messiah was the levelling system and item requirements.
Just about the only really viable path was that of straight up melee combat, mage and range were more or less just stuff for you to do on your second playthrough.
>be badass wizrd
>can't even use a staff
Protip: If you suck at it save Leanna and expell Xana
This kills the demonThe weapons you get make Vampire Knights and Zombies your bitch for the rest of the game.
Although Saving Leanna is for fags, you should do multiple play throughs anyway.
I'm pretty sure you get more than enough points to buy the staff requirements. Endgame staves have mana drain and shit for wizards.
That said playing a mage gets boring as it's just shooting missiles at enemies.
I like the point based levelling system since it doesn't encourage one kind of play, it only encourages exploration. With exp you get the problem DEHR had certain methods are obviously better.
it just has alot of health theyre also weak to fire
nope you can make custom levels in an editor but thats about it the engine is not regular source
though there might be a way to play it with a portal gun in the near future
doesnt work on the spider it has too much hp also finishing moves sometimes dont work on regular enemies on hardcore difficulty
Nope, you needed that mana upgrade you're getting anyway as a wizard since it's required for mana regen. Except for the combat staff, but nobody cares about that one. Similarly, daggers need stealth upgrades to equip, you can do it without combat.
>get to the part where you get the super sword that you cant use
>after that you need to go to some ghoul pit
>50 of those things spawn
>in the middle of them hacking away
>suddenly my night vision fades
I fucking hate undead, they scare the wits out of me.
The game is published by Ubisoft, the devs no longer work for them and the multiplayer is dead.
Also, ubisoft didn't allow arkane to add mod support to the game, even though the editor was finished.
no. if you save leanna and dont purge xana at the temple you have to fight leanna to the death immediatly after opening the large gate / fighting hte pao kai with the ballista
No, I know I'm missing, but I don't like to see different outcomes to stories.
It's really weird but even when I was a kid I'd gift away my Ally/GDI Command and Conquer cds because I didn't want to acknowledge any other ending than Soviet/NOD.
>tfw I mastered crysis
pretty funny to just walk around with fists out and then switch to cloak whenever you know when enemies are about to appear. Also in those webms he just uses the glitch of forcing yourself through gates with objects
There's that VN where if you pick another girl in the second run the first one goes full yandere it's scary too bad it was deleted from youtube. But probably you have seen it as well.
i doubt it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGrQMF6TBHk
unfortunatley not that the game still holds up pretty well
i made them
It seems someone has uploaded it again, but it didn't have the first 7 minutes before. You should watch it and you might think it twice before picking another girl for your second run.
It would be nice to have a VN where you have NG+ and once you got every route you can restart but the MC keeps his memories. In the ending you helped every girl but didnt get any girl because of your actions.
no time travel needed, just something like the MC coming into town by train at the start of the VN and then having vague dreams. Then every time you start up you get a few shreds of the routes yo uhave completed. The final time you have a clear dream in which you know everything that will happen and decide to act on it.
>the dragon sword you get for destroying Xana and forsaking your demon form (fuck that stupid slutty cunt)
>the shield that electrifies enemies who hit you
>ring of regen
>infinite quiver and fire/ice/rope bows
>tfw playing the game on hardcore
I just wanted the enemies to have a little more health
Long story short, leana is a boring, pure, innocent waifu and xana is an interesting, funny, (probably) evil, sexy waifu.
when leanna was like "you're very... special to me s-senpai" i physically cringed
I don't think there's anyone here that likes leanna, or even let her live for any reason other than dragon weapons and experience points
xana > leana
Xana isn't like that at all. She is assertive, but at no point does she act in a dominant way towards Sareth. Meanwhile, Leanna literally tries to kill him immediately after the first and only time he didn't do exactly what she told him to.
the animation pulls you forward
reloading will move you a little
you do, even though you have your own demon form which never gets used ingame
No since you are already of demonic linage you already got demon powers, but due to Xana being binded to you it fucks with its and you get a tail and claws instead of super strength.
Spiders are only in set locations, and you can deal with them from long range by setting up firetraps and shooting bows at them, if that's what you prefer.
They are little bitches, though, they can poison you and poison is a fucking pain in the arse.
They move pretty slowly though. The tower is the only location they can easily catch up to you, and only if you stop to get the secret stuff there.
but her delicious thighs
turns out sareth looks like this
he looks shit
>mfw I realized the poison WILL kill you if you don't drink an antidote
I was pretty careless on my first playthrough so I had no more antidotes in the temple.
>mfw Pao-Kai fight on Hardcore
BETTER REV UP THOSE PHOENIX RINGS OR SANCTUARY SCROLLS IF YOU'RE NOT A MAGE
>Nothing but a dark void
The voice is too whiny for this to be him.
>that facial hair
not even in Chinaland, creep
This is more along the lines of how I pictured him.
>choosing any female over this
I think most people did.
He comes off as being pretty naive for a lot of the game. This gears of war reject doesn't seem very fitting.
Post-becoming a Demon Lord is a different matter.
no, the community is totally dead
I WOULD make some maps for it, but the sdk doesn't work for me. :I
We can only fantasize of a sequel by now...
ALSO, there's a dark messiah modding community on steam that has like, 10 members and has had no activity in years
>Closing in on the end of the island
It's not like the later parts are bad.
The island is just too good.
I liked the necromancer hideout. Ledges and metal boxes fucking everywhere.
>Xana is content to do her master's bidding. Sweet and sincere and a lover of poetry, Xana is possibly the only resident of Sheogh who never speaks a false word
Straight from Heroes of Might and Magic 6
Ain't got shit on M&B but it's miles better than skyrim. Have to actually use reach (I did a playthrough with melee staves, out of all the weapons they felt the best) unlike in skyrim where you spam LMB to win.
>Helps you out however she can
>Saves your life
>Gives you cool demon powers
>Sits around while you do all the hard work
>You're not even married and she's already trying to change you
>Family disapproves of her
I can't believe there are people who think Leanna was better.
best not be shitting me
>Only evil people wear Bismarck beards in media
Why? He was a great man.
>Kill both bitches
>Bro it up with demon dad
>Take over the world
If you didn't do this then
YOU WON'T MAKE IT
Well, you can kill Leanna and choose to ignore Xana. I assume she gets fucked over at some point anyway.
Imagine if they had put in a fight where you pull Xana out of your head and beat the shit out of her succulent succubus rumpus
so I was replaying the other day and found this comfy as fuck spot
>you will never be a resident of Stonehelm
I imagine Sareth awkwardly tried to sneak around the black knights further in that section with a massive erection after the fact.
Imagine all those comments from Xana causing Sareth to pop one, making everything awkward in dialogue exchanges and combat
>Charging adrenaline with daggers lets you throw one for an instakill
>Get the upgrade that lets you use it twice
>Kill two bone dragons at the end with a single attack
I don't think it would be awkward, I think she would be pretty into it. Considering she's a succubus or demon or whatever she would probably encourage him to rub one out.
The stealth in this game is actually pretty great. Lots of ways to move around, distract your enemies, and backstabbing is satisfying as fuck. And all the environments really lend themselves to creative movement.
She can probably feel everything he feels.
>about to go to sleep
>Xana immediately starts talking dirty
>ignore her, need sleep
>get a vision of Xana urging you to fap
Seriously, maybe I'm just good with this shit, but I never have any trouble navigating myself around games, it was painful as fuck watching my friends get lost and give up on;
>Return to Castle Wolfenstein
One of them even had trouble finding his way around Metal Gear Rising, and that had both location markers and a mini-map.
Granted, most games on my list are pretty old, and this was a long time ago, but the more recent experiences with Dark Souls/Dark Souls II and MGR, has given me no reason to believe they've changed.
>Unavoidable fights as a rogue
You're basically scratching them like a little kitten until you get adrenaline and kill one, then rinse and repeat.
Why do the best studios always get fucked over by shitty publishers?
I almost wish Arkane would gather the people behind Arx Fatalis and Dark Messiah and make a kickstarter for Arx Fatalis 2.
>not combining the fire staff with fireball
you mean :
and homm5 ?
A lot of people would have.
And again, that wouldn't be worth the time and effort spent on making the combat good.
My point still stands.
TES franchise is a money cow no matter how shit the games would become.
There's just no point in polishing it instead of just slapping it together and writing "The Elder Scrolls: FUCK YOU" on it.
>Playing DM again because of this thread
>Notice archer drop his bow to fight me
>Knock him down and move on to other enemies
>Spot him getting up, walking over to the bow on the ground, and picking it up
>fighting the orc chief
>mfw I throw a rock at his head and stab him while he's on the ground
Did anyone do that fight legitimately?
You kick him in the balls and keep kicking til he's dead!
>hit him with the staff that drains stamina
>he falls down
>keep hitting him
>mfw in my country Xana means
Axe without a shield
the warrior armor
just the rope bow for where you need it
That's when I last played anyways, made it a challenge run. It's actually pretty fucking hard on the hardest setting like this.
I fail to see how that's supposed to be a dark messiah sequel actually. Is that anon just trying to make a joke because it looks so similiar or is it really supposed to be a sequel of sorts?
I don't that's necessarily a bad thing. If they learnt from the main mistakes of the first game
>rewards for playing the game the boring way
then it could be a plausibly good game. It was actually pretty
fun, just kind of limited.
>saving that whiny fucking whore
>fighting giant spiders willingly ever
>not based xana who wants your dick so hard it physically hurts
I tried arx fatalis.
the protagonist was intensely annoying and the game bugged out like an hour in which resulted in me not being able to finish
it was kinda cosey in a few ways at the start
>You are the bad boy in the game
>You can purge yourself and become good
>You have to save a stupid npc with boobs several times to be better than hitler
>And do some secondary stuff
>mfw all this effort and the final cutscene is nearly the same
>dead island with skellingtons
>mfw stamina bar that only lets you swing 5 times before your tired like dead island
But yes, it lets you use the environment as hazards in a really fun way that few other games do, and the sword fighting is pretty satisfying.