Cao Cao has replaced the main antagonist of the last game you played, keeping their abilities.
How do things change, /v/?
>Cao Cao is now the leader of the United States
RIP in peace the entire world
>DW8 XL CE
Nothing, he's still a bitch in my hypotheticals.
Ballos keeping himself locked in hell, attempting to keep his powers in check, we have Cao Cao willingly wrecking everything.
/sp/ confirmed for disrespecting cao cao
If he was the coach of ANY team, he'd coach everyone to help him follow his ambitions of leading his club through the ranks to become the greatest club of all time.
There, I saved /sp/ a pointless thread.
that's not /sp/, that's just the autistic janitor. he deletes completely sports-related threads sometimes when he's in a bad mood. don't worry, /sp/ would have approved of your thread
He was real fucked up but he got results.
Like one of his things was to avoid being assassinated in his sleep he made up a legend about himself
first he pretended to be asleep in his courtyard and called a servant over
then he jumps up with a scream, grabs his sword next to him and stabs the servant
and then pretends to go right back to sleep
Thus the legend is that Cao Cao kills in his sleep so no one would dare go assassinate him in his sleep.
>DW8 was my last played game
It's some bizzaro world where Liu Bei isn't the total douchenozzle antagonist.
Because a storyteller wanted to make something up to show how awesome Liu Bei is.
Seriously, it's fiction and was originally invented with the intention of making Liu Bei look better. Sadly, most opinions have changed since then.
The latest game I played would be a Harvest Moon, and the only villain I can think of for that game would be the autumn rains for killing all my yams.
The second latest game would be Sengoku Rance so not only is Cao Cao an immortal super human it also means the difficulty spike is more of a bitch because he'll recruit every territory he takes over instead of killing everyone in it.
You are now imagining a version of Rance where the Takeda Generals join the Demon Army so they'll alter between Takeda and Shimazu blitz's
liu bei not standing up for lu bu was simultaneously smart but also quite bitchy
I do like how lao gouzhwhatever characterized liu bei as being aware of how much he sucks and all his men (guan yu and zhao yun or whatever) being too good for him
Also since traditionally people have been very hard on Liu Shan for failing to achieve his father's dreams, most readers (who already have some idea of the overall myth) would be applauding Liu Bei for doing that.
Western audiences like to joke "Liu Shan was thrown on his head and became retarded as a result," but the intended effect is supposed to be the audience cheering "Liu Shan deserves to be thrown because he's going to grow up to be a failure."
Remember, the invention of the fictional story of Liu Shan being thrown as a child came after the idea of Liu Shan being a failure was well established in the overall myth.
Historical guy was a weak ruler, but not actually retarded, and it's unlikely even Cao Cao himself could have achieved Liu Bei's dream. The deck was just too heavily stacked against Shu by the time of Liu Shan's ascension.
>It's a Lu Bu episode
I don't quite understand my fascination with the man.
>Divinity Original Sin
>mfw Cao Cao and his army of Blood Demons and Orcs
Show was so fucking boring after he left the scene. Like the last twenty episodes are garbage because he's not around.
It just becomes the Sima Yi show costarring Zhuge Liang as his buttmonkey.
Liu Bei's portrayal, at least in what I've seen so far (~15 episodes in), is not very flattering. He comes off as a passive beta, and he's surrounded by alpha types.
Also, Zhang Fei is an asshole who beats people for shits and giggles.
>Crusader Kings 2
Doesn't Matter. I've united Europe and India under my rule. Mogols, chinks, it doesn't matter, all will be ground to dust for the glory of God.
I'm only a dozen episodes in and I already want to someone to give Zhang Fei a smack and tell him to stop being such a shortsighted asshat with a sprinkling of pants on head retardedness.
>Lu Bu episode.
>Lu Bu we have to leave no-
>Dude if we don't go now we'll lose the wa-
>Oh shit the enemy has broken through fuck you Lu Bu you fuck!
2010's actually more flattering than the 1994 bleeding heart portrayal where Liu Bei is crying basically every other scene.
The historic man was apparently very stoic and good at hiding his emotions. The novel copy-pastes this description from the records, but then proceeds to completely contradict it by adding a bunch of fictional scenes of Liu Bei crying.
>Return to dreamland
>Instead of going HA HA, I HAVE THE POWER, TIME TO CONQUER THE WORLD he bids his time, gets an army, and then assaults popstar
>He still gets his ass kicked because fuck, it's not the first time Kirby fights abominations with powers beyond imagination, or the second.
Pretty much my experience with Lu Bu in DW8: Legends, at least the historical route.
>CHEN GONG STRATEGY SOMETHING
>Okay, we pincer attack from here, just -
>WAIT NEVERMIND IM GONNA GO STRONK THEM TO DEATH
>No Lu Bu please, this will work, it -
>CHEN GONG WHY ARE WE LOSING
>God fucking damnit Lu Bu
>Too bad every death in the series is I'M STRESSED. TIME TO SPIT UP BLOOD! BLARRRRGH!
Sun Jian, Lv Bu, Chen Gong, Xun Yu, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Cao Cao, Liu Bei, Wei Yan, Sima Yi...
"That was my rice Tommy, MY RICE!"
>NTR, NTR everywhere
romance of the three kingdoms
then read what lao dahgong fictionalized (which is a lot) and then go on from there
like all great historical fiction it'll wrap you up in the time period and you'll see what's bullshit and what isn't
just read the romance of the three kingdoms. it's only what, 6000 pages?
What do you mean? The actual time period and its history?
Dr Rafe de Crespigny of the Australian National University is probably the foremost historian on the era in the English speaking world, so you'd probably want to check out his works. A good number of his writings are online for free.
I recommend starting with:
If on the other hand you mean the myth and legend, any translation of the Sanguo Yanyi "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" would probably do, since the novel is nowadays considered the "canon" of the mythology.
Watching Dong Zhuo run around, angrily screaming at Lu Bu, launched my sides into a galaxy far away.
>it can be wordy at times
Let's be honest here. The whole reason any of us watch the show is to see guys in costumes talk to each other. The other scenes like the battles and fighting is just boring filler.
Sweet, thanks for all the info.
And yeah, reading info about the actual time period. What I've played and scene has intrigued me, and I'd like to know more.
>implying Liu Bei isn't a two-face hypocrite
>implying Liu Bei isn't a complete imcompetent faggot
>implying the novel isn't Shu biased and paints him in a good light
Based Cao Cao for President and Emperor
>tfw one of the cutest girls is forced to experience her father being a complete idiot
What's worse is that she flatout disappears in the route where Lu Bu DOES win.
He was also a martial artist and personally fought on the front lines beside his men through much of his early career.
Remember that he personally led the raid of Wuchao during the Guandu campaign, when he was well into his forties.
>What's worse is that she flatout disappears in the route where Lu Bu DOES win.
Koei didn't want to put her reaction when she gets a "new mommy" that is probably younger that her.
No shit. I was surprised when she didn't show up. It was nice, though, seeing Lu Bu display an emotion towards her (or in general) that wasn't MUH CHALLENGE.
Also liked how they gave her the lawnmower blade that Lu Bu used in 6. Was a nice touch.
Yeah but it follows the same pattern
>What should we do about this?
>My Lord, we shouldn't do it and here is 5 minutes of reasons why
>You're right, we shouldn't do it
>My Lord, I'm a different faggot and I think we should do it, let me spend 5 minutes explaining why
>That's also possible, we probably should do it now, what do you think third adviser?
>Doing it might be the right thing, not doing it might also be the right thing
>You are most wise, third adviser
>Adviser who was wrong ends up getting executed
I really like the old costumes.
A Short Song, by Cáo C?o ??
To my wine I sing a song: a man's life can last how long?
Ephemeral as morning dew; past days are bitterly endless
Indignity is matched by generosity; yet this worry is unforgettable
How can one be free from sorrow? There is only Dù K?ng's wine(1)
Your collar so blue, blue; forever my heart longs, longs for you(2)
Yet only for your sake; do I still sing to this day
'Yu, yu' call the deer; eating together on the plain
I too have my dear guests; drumming strings and blowing flutes(3)
Bright, bright shines the moon; Will there be a time it can be grasped?
Sorrow comes from deep within; never will it be ended
Crossing streets, passing roads; over a hard path you joined my service
Whether in work or play; my heart shall always remember that kindness
The moon outshines the sparse stars; the crows fly to the south
Circling the tree three times; on what branch can they find rest?
Mountains do not despise height; Seas do not despise depth
The Duke of Zh?u spat out his meal; so the world turned its heart to him(4)
(1) Dù K?ng ?? is the legendary inventor of wine
(2) This a quote from a love poem in the Poem Records ??, an anthology of classical poems already old in Cao Cao's time
(3) This entire stanza is a quote from a poem in the Poem Records ??
(4) When people visited the Duke of Zh?u ?? while he was eating, he would spit out his food and meet them instead of finish his meal. Commentators praised him for his self-sacrifice
Post pics of your copy.
I'll wait for you to get it off your shelf.
It explains stuff fairly well, I wouldn't worry. I jumped in with only game knowledge, and it's been great so far.
You can pinpoint the exact second his heart rips in two.
The point is that the majority of the show is Lords being incompetent retards having their decisions spoonfed to them by their underlings.
The best characters, like Cao Cao, are the ones who make their own decisions. Watching Yuan Shao was painful because he literally did whatever he was most recently told to do. It tends to get repetitive at times, although there are certainly great moments that make it worth watching.
>Watching Yuan Shao was
As was watching Yuan Shu. Jesus he's hard to watch.
>So many chances for them to actually get together and win.
>They act like retards and fucking ruin everything.
Who was the most frustrating person to watch fuck up? My vote goes to Guan Yu.
I have not played a Dynasty Warrior since 3 came out, and was interested in getting into 8, so I started watching this series and think it's really dam good, really glad /v/ suggested it to me. I believe back when I played 3 I really liked Sima Yi, I hope he is a good character in this.
It's kinda boring, the enemies are boring. I just want to strangle Liu Shan, fucker was just annoying. The whole Jin run was beating the dead horse route.
Last game was Total Annahilation, can't even play it properly since shit keeps flickering.
Cao Cao would taken China easy if he had Zhuge Liang
He came across as a god damned idiot.
>I know, I'll trick Lu Bu into taking Liu Bei's land, then NOT pay him like I promised! He'll never suspect it!
>WHAT, how can Lu Bu take my provisions, and then not follow through with the terms of our agreement?! How does such a thing occur?
What was about Red Hare that made it so legendary? Was it a special breed? Or even a
DW8: Xtreme Legends is pretty solid dude. Now's as good a time as any to get into it.
Let's be honest here. Zhuge Liang was a nobody living in the empire's fringes. Cao Cao had guys like Xun Yu, Xun You, Guo Jia, Man Chong, Zhong Yao, and Jia Xu, all of whom were way better advisers and officers than Zhuge Liang.
Even so without the romantization it was recorded as a really really great horse
" in Lü Bu's biographies in the historical texts Records of the Three Kingdoms and Book of the Later Han. It was described as very powerful, and capable of "galloping across cities and leaping over moats"."
Or even Chen Gong. He knew his shit. Lu Bu just never listened.
Yeah, I was surprised there wasn't some form of online play. Game's perfect for it.
But hey there's local co-op. In case, you know, you want to play a split screen game on your PC.
>Zhongda, I'm going to ask you one thing, and I hope you answer honestly. The woman in this grave was killed by you, right?
>Why would you think that? I loved her.
>No, no. In this world, what you love is famous achievements and grand ambitions. Jingshu was only a tool you could use. When she was no longer of use, naturally you got rid of her.
>You really have good perception. You're right. It was I who bribed the nurse to give her a blood thinner. Before the child could be born, her blood long ran dry.
>Didn't you say that you loved her? Do you have not even the slightest empathy within you?
>Didn't you say, that in this world the only thing I loved was famous achievements and grand ambitions? Heh heh heh heh...
Now we trivialize a RotTK character with >muh
Actually it does. Hell in Three Kingdoms, Chen Gong saved Cao Cao and followed him believing in his vision. But when he killed his uncle and everyone and didn't feel bad about it, he got disgusted and left.
I meant the much more in-depth relation where Chen Gong was in Cao Cao's service for at least several years and was basically the guy who convinced the people of Yanzhou to accept Cao Cao as governor.
Watching the show makes it seems like one of the reasons why Cao Cao is so good is because he somehow knows everything. Some event happened far away, and he knew of it. He knew of the emperor's blood edict and the girdle. He knew of what happens to everyone. I'm not sure how he does this or if he just scouts far and wide constantly BAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOing to him but man.
The Great Revival is also on Youtube, is it any good?
It was a sad acknowledgement that the man who was basically Cao Cao's second in command is only ever remembered for a fictionally eating an eyeball and a fictional duel with Guan Yu.
>tfw me and my brother used to Co-Op Dynatasy Warriors together on PS2
>tfw he's a cripple and we can't play anymore
>tfw he watches me play DW8PCXLEXCECPDDRBBQAARXIV and says it'd be nice if we could co-op again
Something I never realized before when I knew vaguely of ROTK/DW is the strategist/advisors. I always thought
Cao Cao - Sima Yi
Liu Bei - Zhuge Liang
Sun Ce/Quan - Zhou Yun
But now I know there's so many of them like Xu Shu, Xun You, Lu Su, etc etc.
Zhuge Liang wasn't even really a military adviser while Liu Bei was alive. He was a civil and logistics officer, meaning his counterparts in Cao Cao's and Sun Quan's camps would probably have been Xun Yu and Zhang Zhao, respectively.
it's because in the fiction cao cao and some others (notably zhuge liang) can normally see ruses coming before they can get off the ground
well, in cao cao's case at least until red cliff
I really like how all the stories revolving around the Three Kingdoms era are basically all about Shu and Wei. Wu just happens to be there and doesn't really do much.
Wu was around before the last nail was hammered into the Han coffin, so their story of formation isn't told. Their most noteworthy event is Sun Jian dying because muh emporer's seal.
It's a shame since there likely was a lot of interesting internal affairs in their kingdom but none of it was as interesting and the feuding between Wei and Shu.
>Muh GODDAMIT FENGXIAN
>none of it was as interesting and the feuding between Wei and Shu.
This is completely wrong. Wei and Wu had way more battles of way larger scale than anything Shu could muster. The only reason why Shu even lasted as long as it did was because Wei could not completely focus on destroying it due to the threat of Wu on the flank.
Wu was far stronger than Shu, and left a far greater impact on history. China only extends as far south as it does today because of the process of southern colonization that began under Wu in its effort to extract resources in the south to fend off the north.