It needs some equivalent of achievements and trophies.
There, I said it...
Oh, and while I'm at it. Some smart fucker needs to figure out some unified system that takes all platforms into consideration. The ePenis comparison rage would echo down the halls of time and probably make the planet explode. Which would be amusing and shit.
>Request a 2.5d metroid. >Forgets the shit hole Other M was. >Forgets The godliness that is prime Fuck you bring another first person from retro. Prime was better then super metroid anyway. I like them both though.
>>254219343 >Archievements >Trophies Fuck no, that shit is cancerous as fuck especially on online communities and forces the player to replay the game instead of letting the player play the game again due to the replay value. Seriously, fuck it, glad Nintendo hasn't accepted this shitty practice -YET-
>>254219529 The WiiU tries to be different than a PC by adding the Tablet and all of the Wii controllers. What people like the most about Nintendo's consoles is that they TRY to be different, to add something valuable to the consoles that isn't found in your common PC.
>>254219868 Fucking this. I actually had someone tell me in real fucking life that the WiiU was not even "next-gen." I'm glad I'm not a sperg or I would've shat down their throat for being so fucking stupid.
a falling game where you are encouraged to cover your entire body in a blanket, place the tablet on your lower body while facing it to your eyes, and you hold onto it and using the gyroscope, look around naturally and attempt to fall and not land on a surface.
Generally, fear of falling and falling in general. I think this would be brilliantly exciting, and something only the Wii U could do. Even a simple e-shop title, but otherwise, an exhilarating experience that would probably cause excited yells and shouting
>>254220090 That person was right though. The WiiU is closer to the PS3 than it is to the PS4. I'm not even praising the PS4, as it has no fucking games so far, just saying that if they want to sell the WiiU as it is now, they better lower the price.
>>254220601 >>254220754 Yes, it was released a year earlier than the other 2 consoles, but as far as the actual machine goes, it's somewhere between the PS3/360 and the PS4/Xbone. The console will not sell well as long as it performs like a last gen console, no matter how much you argue that it was released this generation.
Ganon. You play as Ganondorf during the seven years Link is trapped during OOT. It's a combination RTS/Brawler where you need to move your armies of minions to fight, but you can also turn the tides of battle using magic and punches.
>>254218398 I want Saints Row 3 like gameplay, and a futuristic setting. Using the gamepad as a steering wheel could be great too, because there would of course be racing challenges along with the bounty hunting gameplay.
>>254221352 third party exclusive, sure i couldn't give less fuck about third party multi platform, the only time i buy nintendo and sony console is to play their exclusive games, anything else is on pc. but i agree that releasing more 3rd party will help the console. too bad we are in this vicious cycle : dev say not enough sale -> no games -> no sales -> no new games etc ubisoft actually came out and said they have sat on a new game for wii u over six months but they won't release until it has more fanbase
>>254221435 Nintendo's optimization for it's first party titles is extremely good. Graphics still look way too cartooney and they're full of jaggies. How many games actually run on 1080p? It does perfom like a last gen console. You claim the xbone and the ps4 dont have more games running at 60fps and 1080p but the WiiU has been out for twice as long.
>>254221340 Actually, the Wii U devs seem to be taking advantage of the hardware more than Xbox One / PS4 devs do.
They make smaller rooms / shorter draw distances so that the game can run at 1080p / 60 FPS.
Also, anyone who has not seen this should take a look at it: http://boallen.com/fps-compare.html
Honestly, I'd much rather watch 15 FPS than 30 FPS. 15 just looks plain choppy but I can bare to look at it for some reason. But when I look at 30 it just sort of makes me squint. It just looks terrible.
Also, art direction comes in to play as well. Just because the Xbox One and PS4 have technically fulfilled the minimum standard requirement to be "stronger than the Wii U" so that it would be an advertising point for Sony and Microsoft does not mean that their games will inherently look better.
So far, overall I'd say the Wii U has better looking games than the Xbox One and PS4, AND better games in general. I mean, the Wii U is not that exciting to me at the moment, but at least it's going to get Smash. That's one more game than the Xbox One and PS4 have combined.
>>254222073 I mean, why do you little Sony fags even care about graphics? Certainly you're against PC gaming. Why are you so adamant about coming in second place in terms of graphics, yet never discussing gameplay? What's the novelty of specifically being in second place in graphics every single generation? What does that add to your gaming experience?
Nintendo is going to do this, because Wii U technically has GC compatibility down to the metal, since it uses the same architecture as GC and Wii, only more powerful and optimized. It has hardware BC with the Wii so it naturally has it with GC as well.
Nintendon't was able to get GC games running on it on a preliminary stage.
Nintendo will soon ask for your shekels to rebuy GC games that should have been compatible to begin with.
>>254222175 >The eighth generation of video game consoles includes these: Nintendo's Wii U, released on November 18, 2012; Sony Computer Entertainment's PlayStation 4 released on November 15, 2013; and Microsoft's Xbox One, released on November 22, 2013. These video game consoles follow the previous seventh generation: Nintendo's Wii, Sony's PlayStation 3, and Microsoft's Xbox 360. For video game handhelds, the generation began in February 2011 with the release of the Nintendo 3DS, successor to the Nintendo DS, in Japan, followed by a North American and European release in March. The successor of the PlayStation Portable, the PlayStation Vita, was released in December 2011 in Japan, and Western markets in February 2012.
Historically, the lower power, cheaper systems usually win their generation.
Wii U's problem is that they threw out their existing fans with Wii to grab casuals. Casuals didn't want to move on to a new system, so it left Nintendo with no one.
They are trying to move back to the more hardcore audience but it's not going to be easy. They have a reputation now as a casual company and one that doesn't appeal to mature gamers.
So they have to fight the fact that people think Wii U is just an expansion for Wii, people who think Nintendo is just games for children, and people who think Nintendo is only for casuals.
Nintendo has a huge marketing mess on their hands and they are in an awkward position where they are trying to evolve their products into different market segments. So the market they used to rely on doesn't care anymore and the market that they target still thinks the product is for the old customers.
>>254217816 Make a Mario RTS where you see the traditional overhead view on your gamepad as your strategy organizer and then you see different perspectives and gameplay elements on the TV screen. When you order units to a battle or to a place you can take control of a unit leader on your big screen traditional 3D Mario third person style and do platforming for bonuses, to attack better, open pathways, etc.
Have factions be: -Mushroom Kingdom: Army of Toad variants, Bob-ombs, others, with Mario, Luigi, Peach etc leader units. Mounted units ride Yoshis. -Koopa Army: Goombas, Koopa Troops, chain chomps, etc with Koopa Kid, Bowser, Kamek and other leaders -Wario Ware army: You know, Wario Ware stuff and leaders. -Galactic Empire: Mario Galaxy faction -(Bonus faction) Donkey Kong, in a secret level
>>254217816 >We need to save this sucker No we don't. I love my Wii U, and most of the things that Nintendo pushes out in general, but "we" don't need to save shit. We are consumers, we aren't shareholders, we aren't employees of Nintendo, the Wii U is not our child. All "we" need to do is spend our money on whatever provides a good quality experience for the price. Cut the brand loyalty bullshit; brand loyalty (as well as the tendency of the general public to brainlessly absorb advertisements) is exactly why capitalism in the US fails.
>>254218074 fine, toss in some minimal puzzles on the gamepad to initially unlock doors sometimes and use the scan visor like the scan in Lego City. That's as much as I'll allow you. You happy now neo-nintendo fan?
>>254220280 >if there's a game you fucking love, it feels great to unlock everything, including achievements God, remember when doing special shit in a game unlocked shit in the actual game, instead of giving you some retarded ePenis score? That's the only way achievements are actually done right. Kirby Air Ride achievements == Good XBox and Playstation achievements and trophies == retarded and lazy.
>>254222714 >Second place to much more expensive systems This is measurably false and you know it - Why do you keep lying to yourself? Every single day there are hundreds of threads showing how to create a gaming PC stronger and cheaper than the PS4, and you just ignore it.
>is still better than being 9 years outdated on release. As opposed to being 8 years outdated, nice standards. It's funny how Sony always fulfill the minimum standard to be negligibly "stronger" than the Nintendo console, then they say that "Nintendo is for little kids" and shit like that, and fags like you just eat it right up.
>Reminder than Nintendo gimped the hardware to make room for the shitty worthless tablet (100 bucks manufacturing costs despite using shitty PDA-from-2000 tier screen technology). Reminder that you continue to talk about shit like this and never games
>PS4 has the best version of all multiplats No, the PC does.
>A bunch of exclusives that are just as good as the Shit on WiiU My god no. Second Son is lzay as fuck even for sucker punch, Killzone is still as much of a failed Halo killer as it ever was and Knack is the saddest tech demo I have ever had the displeasure of playing. Resogun is pretty good, but it can't compare.
>A recent Steam survey showed that most "pc gamers" have onboard graphics and computers less powerful than the PS4 which is pathetic. ...so what you're trying to say here is that, what, PS4 is more powerful than most PCs?
Why do you nintendo shit eaters want to "save" the Wii U?
Even if it's in third place it will still get all the shitty mario rehashes and other awful sequelitis ridden sequels that you all love to buy over and over again. You've proven many times that you only buy garbage with Mario in it, so why the fuck do you care?
>>254217816 >Backwards compatibility With only the wii >No DRM If there was no drm you could just burn a disc and play it >Free online On local multiplayer the machine, woopty fucking do >Can play used games Why is this relevant PC can play used games If they don't use steam activation
>>254222073 >Nintendo's optimization for it's first party titles is extremely good.
Top fucking kek.
This is Nintendo's optimization >make graphics 720p >do not implement any form of AA, not even FXAA >use low res ugly as shit textures for everything >cover everything in bloom and blur so the previous point is less noticeable
>Has backwards compatibility with a shit console, Has region locking, has SHIT free online, every other console can play used game, every console is supporting indie developers, cheap in quality yes but overpriced for what it offers you, great first party line-up if you're 8 years old because this has nothing to offer a normal person.
>Rightfully ignored because it's a massive hunk of shit made directly to try to trick casuals into buying it because MAH TABLET even though a 4 year old will tell you the Wii U sucks dick against even the cheapest android tablet.
>>254217816 >can play used games so can the other two whats your point? >support for indie developers is that why there are barely any indies on wiiu? >cheap it has the same hardware as xbox 360 and they still have the nerve to charge 250 for it >great first party line up
They can't do that because Wii U is using a shitty outdated and hard to develop for architecture based on PPC which is fucking retarded when the competition is all using x86/64. Wii U will be like the PS3, hard to develop for, with the difference that developing for it isn't worth it because Nintendo Shit Eaters only buy Mario and nothing else.
See the blundering of W101, or the fact that Rocksteady had to refund all the season passes for Batman AO, that's right, refunding all the passes would have caused a smaller loss than actually developing the additional content for the Wii U. That's how much of a failure that thing is, and why third parties avoid it like the plague.
>>254222714 >PDA-from-2000 tier screen technology It uses a TN display because IPS has a slower response-time. Unless you mean the resistive touch screen, in which case you're a retard. Suggesting capacitive for gaming is fucking stupid, looking at the dogshit games (ie. all of them) for Android and iOS. The only touch screen technology better for gaming than resistive is an actual digitizer, which would have been much more expensive. Disliking the tablet is one thing, but criticizing the screen technology is fucking retarded, and outs you as an idiot Applefaggot.
>>254217816 Airport guard simulator. You use the pad as an XRay camera, and you can tweak the "wavelength" to detects different things, like metal, body heat, specific fabric, and so on. Your subjects always happen to be beautiful girls, some heavily clothed, some barely clothed, and thus they use different strategy to hide the items. note that since you are a simple cop, you are only allowed to use the photo for a first doubt, then use tactile screen to make a body searh above the clothe, but you must be careful, sonce different gauges lies/emotion/health can change whenever you do that and you could enter a crisis if your suspect faint or burst into treats (game is generous on bad ends where you get cut or exploded or poisoned and so on). When you get enough proof, you can ask the suspect to come in your office for a detailed interogatory where the various gauges still apply. and if you are smooth enough, you can promise disminished charges in exchanges for info (for the enxt stages, or unlocking hidden stages), money, or, nature services (aka a minigame where you can use the pad as a camera while your suspect accept to do a serie of things for you, using accessories bought by your money or found on previous case. as you solve cases, you get promoted, and you can go from your local airline to international VIP place, and in late games, fancy places like a space station or do extra at a very important celebrity meeting and stuff.
>>254222220 Because it suddenly became a thing I shit on Nintendo on social media and all the dudebros always go for sony/m$ and constantly claim that Nintendo games are for "kididies" even though all the actual children are playing cawadooty on their ps4's and xbones. Social media is cancerous to the highest extent. All that+ shit marketing and a poor launch lineup of games.
>>254225103 >It uses a TN display because IPS has a slower response-time.
Nintendo shit eater and apologist. IPS has come a long way with response time, also the Wii U tablet screen has shit response time that looks like it's around 15ms to me.
>Unless you mean the resistive touch screen, in which case you're a retard. Suggesting capacitive for gaming is fucking stupid, looking at the dogshit games (ie. all of them) for Android and iOS.
Resistive has no reason to exist in this day and age. Capacitive is just as responsive and precise, and it can uses a stylus as well, and other things too, there's many phones that can use pencils or other shit to operate the screen such as the Note 2 or the Xperia Z1. On top of that resistive can't use glass or hard surfaces, only multiple layers of plastic, which makes the overall quality of the display even muddier and shittier, not to mention, easy as fuck to scratch.
You're a fucking retard and a Nintendo Shit Eater and apologist. Enjoy paying for outdated shit, you literally can't kill yourself fast enough.
>>254225005 I gave you a chance. Your post makes absolutely no sense. "Takes two to tango"? Well when in Rome, I guess. I guess I can just confidently misuse a phrase and delude myself in to believing that it makes me an intellectual and therefore I must be right. That's basically all you did.
And I guess your argument at its core is that by ignoring the console war, you're somehow just as bad as the people who participate in it, or something like that. The whole thing is fucking stupid.
>>254225029 Because it is incentive for developers to not have a useful unlock system. Look at all the games 6th-gen that had extensive post-game unlock systems for cool in-game bonuses as incentive to explore the nooks-and-crannies of the game. Compare that to the pathetic number of games 7th-gen that did the same. Developers had no incentive to put a fun achievement system into their game, because they just had to integrate it with the console's and forget about putting anything worthwhile in. What's the point in adding useful post-game content when the idiot kids only care about their gamerscore?
An achievement system should be about having fun exploring the game, not about having an online score-card to show off how much time you can waste to idiots online.
>>254225103 >>254225563 And also I can emulate touch based DS games perfectly on my tablet with IPS (and 1080p and far superior viewing angles, contrast, white level, and fucking everything else) and of course capacitive screen just my fingers with the same precision as the original DS. So there goes your retarded shit eating apologism.
Keep eating up whatever Nintendo shits into your plate, drone.
>>254225345 Never gonna happen, Itoi is done with the series and Nintendo is scared to release anything Mother related in the west because they think they can get sued over parodies. Japs hate Mother 3 anyway and the only people left who even remotely give a shit anymore are Smashfags who never played the games themselves and some turbonerds who inhabit one of the couple of fansites.
a cute maid simulator where you serve people by loading up the pad as a plate and all the food is super unstable cream confections and while you walk, obstacles and events and your own physics (big tits, big ass and outrageous platform shoes) force you to keep the balance of stuff constantly. And if you fuck up, well, the client can dispose of you for a while depending of the fuck up. 2 ending possible. Becomes the maid Princess... Or the local meat hole.
>>254224342 Leave that line of logic to the Sony fans. It's theirs. Nintendo fans don't need it.
If someone has a place in gaming its Nintendo. They're one of the only good developers still around, meanwhile things like Call of Duty and Mass Effect get all the attention from the mainstream dudebros.
We don't really need to argue from the perspective of "let's just keep Nintendo around for the sake of competition". How about let's keep them around because they actually make good games unlike Sony and Microsoft.
>>254225563 >IPS has come a long way with response time Still slower than TN.
>also the Wii U tablet screen has shit response time of 15ms The tablet response time is faster than most LCD TVs through HDMI. It's a 30ms lag. That's 2 frames at 60fps, which is exceptional for any wireless display. You are absolutely full of shit if you think you can notice a lag of 1/30th of a second.
>Capacitive is just as...precise No it's not. Capacitive is clumsy as shit, and capacitive styluses suck ass. And those phones you're talking about use digitizers for the stylus input, not the capacitive screen, which is what I said in the first place.
>Enjoy paying for outdated shit No thanks, I'm not a consolefaggot, capacitive technology is absolutely retarded for anything that can't be operated with giant on-screen buttons though. It's clumsy and imprecise. You can't pretend you have anywhere near the same accuracy with your finger on a capacitive screen as you do with a stylus on a resistive screen.
>region locked >no third party support >doesn't even get crossgen multiplats >shoehorned retarded fisher price ipad >shoehorned retarded social network for dumb children and pedos >barely any more powerful than a fucking Xbox360 >too complex for casuals >too gimmicky for anyone with taste in vidya >first party support consists of stale sequels with literally 0 innovation >no multimedia >small hard drive >exclusively advertised to kids with ads such as this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsbeQeiwW9o >bombed worldwide, has no future
Gee, I wonder why it's not selling. Must be those pesky sonyggers boycotting it, not because the system is an ouya tier piece of shit.
the could upscale that project robot game and make it piloted like a power ranger robot, each player has a pad and move a limb and the "master" with the tablet can manage macro stuff like "redirecting energy" or changing weapons or activating fly, charge or simply disassemble the robot into vehicles for a while.
>>254226617 >Still slower than TN. Doesn't fucking matter because the Wii U screen is not fast at all.
>The tablet response time is faster than most LCD TVs through HDMI. It's a 30ms lag. That's 2 frames at 60fps, which is exceptional for any wireless display. You are absolutely full of shit if you think you can notice a lag of 1/30th of a second.
You don't even know what the fuck is response time, do you? I never talked about wireless lag you fucking sperg.
>No it's not. Capacitive is clumsy as shit, and capacitive styluses suck ass. That's because you're a faggot living in the nineties. Capacitive is just as precise if not more.
>And those phones you're talking about use digitizers for the stylus input, not the capacitive screen, which is what I said in the first place.
The fuck? You're technologically and mentally retarded.
>No thanks, I'm not a consolefaggot Yet you bought a Wii U (or are just defending it because you're a faggot). Top fucking kek.
every time one of these threads is made all people ever say is >make another star fox! metroid! f zero!!
seriously, fuck all three of those franchises. none of them are strong enough to sell systems, and none of them have a large enough following to sell alot of copies.
the system doesnt need to be saved at all. its doing fine. even if nintendo sits in third place with the wii u, they are still making a massive profit. and when you count in the 3ds, they are easily the most successful of the three big game companies
>>254227072 >seriously, fuck all three of those franchises. none of them are strong enough to sell systems, and none of them have a large enough following to sell alot of copies. That's because the Primebabbies wanted to please stupid assholes like you who aren't even part of Nintendo's demographic, so a good Metroid game will never be made again because they sacrificed it to people like you by pretending to like the Prime games to impress you. And it didn't even work, did it.
>>254227005 >You don't even know what the fuck is response time, do you? I never talked about wireless lag you fucking sperg. Response time is the time between triggering an input and seeing the result initiate. "response" isn't a difficult word. When input is transmitted wirelessly, and output is also transmitted wirelessly, the response time is 100% dependent on the wireless stack. How the fuck do you think the controller works? Have you ever touched the goddamn thing? Also, way to gloss over everything I said because you dislike the fact that response time is inherently dependent on the underlying transmission mechanisms.
Capacitive is dogshit. Resistive is pretty shitty too, but nowhere near as bad. Digitizer > shit > resistive > capacitive.
> The fuck? You're technologically and mentally retarded. Your ability to argue a point is truly impeccable.
> Yet you bought a Wii U (or are just defending it because you're a faggot). Top fucking kek. I didn't. And I'm not defending it. I'm attacking you for being a retarded tabletbaby.
>>254227939 >Response time is the time between triggering an input and seeing the result initiate. "response" isn't a difficult word. That's input delay, not response. How do these children keep getting past the captchas?
>>254227632 Yeah it's fun as shit. I know this is hard to believe, but there are ways to play consoles you don't own. Magical beings known as friends, it's possible you've never seen one in real life before, but don't let that get you down.
>>254227325 I can't list any in the same franchise, but think about the games with extensive unlockables before compared to any games after. Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Predator Concrete Jungle, Timesplitters, and Kirby Air Ride off the top of my head. How many FPS games even have unlockable characters anymore?
Finally, the children of the future will no longer have to subjugate themselves to the platforming ghetto that is nintendo software. They will never waste years of their lives desperately holding on to nostalgic memories of games that were never great and worshipping nintendo's eternal cycle of IP rehash.
We saved them, /v/. The death of the nintendrone begins now!
>>254228408 So you're the kind of person who bases your gaming experiences on what a company tells you is ok / not ok to buy. Sony tells you Nintendo is for kids, and you really, really believe it, and you rush out and start buying all kinds of Sony products because of it.
>>254227939 >Response time is the time between triggering an input and seeing the result initiate. "response" isn't a difficult word.
No you fucking mongoloid, response time is the time it takes for a pixel to change from black to white. Wii U tablet has ghosting this means the response time is not fast at all. I never talked about wireless lag, I talked about screen response time which is shit just like contrast ratio, viewing angles, color saturation, and everything else.
>Your ability to argue a point is truly impeccable.
You have no points because you don't know how things work.
>I didn't. And I'm not defending it. I'm attacking you for being a retarded tabletbaby.
Yet even the shittiest tablet has better screen, resolution, and input technology.
I'm not sure what Nintendo did that every third party avoids them like the plague. It could be just that everyone views them as the kiddie toy console and the tablet isn't doing them any favors either, but there's probably something more going on behind the scenes. A Dark Souls dev literally laughed when an interviewer asked if the game has a chance of a Wii U port.
This is the part where a normal company would start inviting publisher representatives to round table meetings and try to salvage the relationship, ask them to explain why they're not willing to work together and do something about it. Nintendo just doesn't care, or maybe they do but they clearly aren't trying hard enough. They're okay with being Gamecube tier, i.e. only appealing to their "core" fanbase.
>>254228549 Response time is how long it takes for pixels to move from one color to the next, usually measured gray to gray, which is 100% meaningless. White to black has meaning but it has nothing to do with input delay. Input delay and response time have no correlation at all. The best non-CRT monitor with the lowest input delay is an IPS panel with 8 ms response time. Friendly reminder if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about, STOP TALKING.
>>254228350 What about the same developers? I see where you're going with this, but I need some actual precedent before I can accept it as anything other than speculative.
>How many FPS games even have unlockable characters anymore? Well, to that I'd say, not many. But I also don't think that's terribly important for the genre. Umm. Maybe Hawken if you count the mechs as characters. That also has achievements. But you unlock those by sinking time into the game, not doing cool shit to unlock them (unless you consider reaching a certain rank with another mech first cool shit).
>>254228684 >>254228851 >No you fucking mongoloid, response time is the time it takes for a pixel to change from black to white No, you fucking mongoloid, that's display response time. "Response time" is a general term in technology used for everything from input delay to memory access. I use it all the time at work to gauge cache fetches, network stability, and disk latency. You're a goddamn idiot for using a term like that for an input device and assuming everybody will know that you were only talking about the display.
A stealth game, first person, when in cover, player can tilt gamepad to peek around corners. Gamepad is used to also draw maps of the patrol patterns of a guard, or where he's going to go. Limited weaponry, get more scores by not killing anybody and just taking the objective in style. (Unless the objective IS assasination.
>>254228681 Are you getting desesperate now? can you point when i said i like nintendo?
Also, why do you stupid Sony assholes think that liking Nintendo is such a bad thing? I guess when you sit there and go "N-no! I don't like S-S-Sony! I'm an idort, I swear!!!" you delude yourself in to believing that this somehow makes you more unbiased and rational, when the truth is that you have an opinion just like anyone else - The only difference is that you think your opinion is more fair than theirs, and thus you're more of an elitist asshole than they are.
I would seriously rather just see someone say that they like Sony better than Nintendo than deal with you dumb fucks who think that all of your own ideas are unbiased and perfectly balanced just because they came from your own shitty, ignorant self. Liking Nintendo better than Sony does not make you a "Nintendo fanboy", and liking Sony better than Nintendo does not make you a "Sony fanboy".
But when you sit there and go "Hmmm, yes, Sony is objectively better than Nintendo, I'm so mature, for you see, I'm what we call an idort-gentleman-scholar, I'm so mature and fair and balanced, look at me everyone", then it's pretty safe to call you a Sony fanboy.
By "scaled down" I mean "scaled down". Do you really need it spelled out for you?
Any reduction of screen resolution, texture resolution, draw distance, aa, single player features, multiplayer features, ai, enemies on screen, and/or polygon count. I'm sure there is more I could list.
>>254226603 So what is this? and in none of my post i never mentioned sony that just you anon, you are saying i like sony again and again, i just said nintendo released shitty games in the begining i dont know why they consider them good
Sony has no multiplayer games. My friend brought over this weird game where you play as these Disney / lego looking characters on the PS3, and you go around beating animals up and stuff, and we tried to play it for a while but we just couldn't get in to it. It's nothing compared to local multiplayer games on my PC and games on the Nintendo consoles.
>>254229735 >So what is this? It's a fact about how the two different gaming communities work. Sony fans are always trying to justify Sony's existence by saying that "we need Sony because competition".
>>254229696 None of that changes that I am actually making assertions related to the point at hand, while you're using ad hominem as an actual argument. Your last two posts were nothing but strawman arguments and pathetic personal attacks. Almost every one of your responses has completely ignored every point I actually made, or cherry-picked one aspect that's not even the main point at hand. You're a fanboy idiot.
nintendo needs a marketing plan akin to its competitors that includes all the lieing, statements that get retracted though no one will read the retractions,to pass it off as some faggy as all fuck lifestyle choice, and finally to buy as much praise as possible.
oh and they would also need to stop focusing in the "game" aspect of video games
Like Metroid isn't a killer app, Prime sold what a million units?
Really nothing will help the console unless PS4 and Xbone are no games for a really long amount of time or the thing starts selling for dirt cheap.
It has no gimmick like the Wii and major releases aren't making increasing sales as much as they should. Sure Mario Kart and 3D World and Tropical Freeze gave sales boost but the numbers aren't overwhelmingly huge and the long term momentum isn't enough.
Also the 3ds is undermining sales as Nintendo is offering a better value proposition, the 3ds has mirrored games to most Wii U titles, a larger amount of software, a larger userbase, lowered cost, and Nintendo isn't helping by doing things like releasing smash on the 3ds.
However the Wii U has Smash, a true 3D mario, and Zelda left before anyone should actually start worrying.
>>254232036 >still cant explain when i said i like sony >b..b..but you like sony because waaaa >resort to shitposting >cant come with a good argument >still resort to shitposting >dont want to be called a manchildren
>>254232632 >Holy shit just accept that some people don't like the games moron.
I dont know i just said nintendo didnt released good games in the begining and he went too defensive about nintendo and started calling me a sony fanboy,and started to all the shit manchildren do like the post above you
>>254217816 >No DRM >Not only the worst online services of any platform, but also the only platform to be completely region locked >Every platform plays used games and supports indie developers, arguably Nintendo have the worst support
>>254232921 Actually, it's pretty much the opposite. I was originally just talking about the Wii U and you felt the need to jump in with all this teenage girl level drama and you accused me of liking Nintendo as if that were some sort of damning evidence. I had to explain to you that it's ok to like Nintendo, it's also ok to like Sony. That doesn't necessarily make you a fanboy.
And then you started accusing me of owning a Wii U (which I don't), and saying this, and saying that, and it's just not interesting and you're barely addressing the arguments.
>play as a Superman-like superhero >immensely strong, fast, and durable, and can hear what's going on on the other side of the globe >instead of being strengthened by the sun, is strengthened by people's confidence in him >controller shows a map or globe with markers on it indicating spots where crimes are taking place or people are distressed >player has to select which sites to go to and take action >responding to a crime plays like a 3rd person action game >other crimes continue simultaneously, so it's impossible to save everyone >as hero saves more people, people trust him more and he gets more powerful >as a result, ordinary crime is slowly replaced by super-crime and is more challenging for the player/hero to stop >with enough renown, the hero inspires others to to try to make a difference as heroes, so the player can delegate tasks to them >superrvillains can be created as a result of hero's actions (or lack thereof)
>>254233047 >Show me where I admitted my biases You admitted them via process of elimination.
You aren't a Microsoft drone. You're criticizing Nintendo, so you're not a Nintendrone. You don't like PC gaming. You're praising Sony and again, criticizing Nintendo.
So I guess for the sake of political correctness we're all supposed to sit here and pretend you're not a Sony fanboy.
Good that you're inadvertently admitting that liking Sony is an indefensible stance to take. When people like Nintendo, they say "I proudly like Nintendo, and here's why:" When you like Sony, you try have to try to cover it up and deny it.
>>254233245 I've only ever heard "response time" used as a term for "input delay". If you are using a shell through a slow tunnel, you don't say "input delay", you say response time. It's pointless adding more terms for the same thing. Response time has only even meant the time between when a signal is sent and when the response is triggered.
>>254233925 >Again, after you explained why my question is invalid, I ask the invalid question again, where did I admit to my biases? See: The post that you replied to >i dont give a shit about sony and the nogames4 So you WERE just playing devil's advocate. Epic troll anon, truly epic.
If Steam and Nintendo got together and made an app on the Eshop that would allow you to use Steam's in home streaming on the gamepad, I guarantee you this thing would sell like hotcakes. Imagine playing your Steam games on your gamepad, being able to take it through the house; shit would be badasss.
>>254234052 >I've only ever heard "response time" used as a term for "input delay". Congrats, you learned something new today. Instead of being retarded and continuing posting, you should've stopped posting or admitted to being wrong. Instead you decided to attack the anon who cleared up your confusion, kept shitposting and continued being wrong. You are wrong, end of story. Admit it and learn from it.
>>254234250 Or I'll just keep using response time for the same thing that every computer professional I know does. The words of fellow senior software developers and systems administrators strike me as a little more trustworthy than some anonymous faggot on 4chan arguing in a language he barely can grasp.
>>254234683 Learning what? "input lag" is a term that means nothing. It's ambiguous. I'll use the descriptive term that's been used in the industry for 30 years rather than your made-up video game word.
>>254234934 The term is "input delay." I'm starting to question if you can read, anon. The descriptive "term" you are using is 100% marketing (and literally meaningless as they measure in gray to gray which literally means nothing.) By all means, continue being ignorant, just do it without posting anymore.
>>254234935 If you care about hardware why are you playing on consoles?
Oh that's right because of the novelty of coming in second place but criticizing the thing in first place instead of becoming part of it. You just want to have a really mediocre and limited gaming experience, based around what Sony and Microsoft tell you is ok, instead of playing fun Nintendo games and then playing whatever the fuck you want on top of that.
>>254235159 The term is "response time". As in the time between a signal and a response. A clear example is a ping, which would always be referred to as response time, and never "input delay". Does "input delay" mean the delay in the time that it takes for input to be received or delay in the time it takes for a response to be shown?
>>254235551 http://pcmonitors.info/articles/factors-affecting-pc-monitor-responsiveness This explains the differences on a technical level that you will not understand, but maybe it will help you understand that you have no idea what you are talking about.
>>254235690 So you're accepting that the term is "response time", which I had previously said is entirely dependent on whether you were talking about display response time or network response time, as both are applicable to the Wii U pad, given that it connects over a standard 802.11n network. Does your memory only extend back 2 posts?
Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_lag Says right at the top that it's only applicable to video games, and then proceeds to give 4 mutually incompatible definitions, one of which is that same display response time.
>>254236285 You're again ignoring that the word has multiple definitions. I never denied that display response time meant something unique from network response time.
>>254236603 You're ignoring you're referring to a display and a display's response time has nothing to do with input delay. You're admitting to being wrong while still claiming to be correct. You must be extremely egotistical. It's OK to be wrong anon, you just gotta learn from it.
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