Can we have a SMT: Devil Survivor thread? Just finished the game and it was awesome. Also Haru best girl, although I finished Naoya's path.
Why is Yuzu so fucking annoying?
Yuzu is a pain, too bad she is one of the most competent magic unit for most of the game, otherwise i wouldn't use her.
In other hand keisuke isn't much better with her whole muh justice deal. I enjoyed Devil survivor 2 a lot more.
It was my first none-Persona SMT, and I had to look at a guide for tips on how to beat
the very first proper boss.
There's no shame in looking up where you went wrong, so you can actually beat the game, anon.
If you were trapped in a city that was filled with FUCKING DEMONS and people were dropping like Crips in Blood territory around you wouldn't you want to go home?
Nearly bought this on Thursday but went with Strange Journey instead since I prefer dungeon crawling to SRPG.
which final boss? If you mean Belberith, your main char should have zandyne and a holy spell, and his demons should have holy spells and drains, as well as resurects. Make sure you keep everyone in your party after you beat him, and make sure you crack his victory cry with main char otherwise you won't be able to defeat Babel. After that it's just a matter of keeping everyone alive if just for meat shields, and you should be cool.
Drain is such an underrated ability, it carried me through the final bosses.
is the wiki fucking with me or is there really a 2014 date in Japan?
>"i just want to go home" was her deal all game long
I think that's kind of fair.
She's actually somewhat like Yukari in that she's a normal girl that realistically reacts to their situations, but earns a lot of hate because this leads them to seem more whiny and bitchy compared to the more idealized girls.
I'm not saying they're my favorite girls of their respective games, but I can give them a bit of leeway.
Again, she's acting pretty realistically.
Most IRL girls wouldn't "develop" in the middle of an end of the world crisis with demons running around skullfucking everybody while she's starving and sleeping on the ground every day. Hell, most IRL girls would just kill themselves within the first day or two.
true, but that path is the closest I could get to killing the fuckers who had it coming. Every time the plot forced me to fight a yakuza, or a corrupt police officer, I'd wished that the game would let me just kill them.
plus, I got locked out of the demon ending by breaking kaido and midoris comp
It's really not that good. The story is shit and the game has piss poor balancing that makes it balls to the wall in the beginning and easy as fuck at the end. It felt kinda lazy if you ask me.
Holy shit really?
Oh fuck it's real HERE WE GO
I disagree - if you've not spoiled any of the story, it's a surreal romp that completely subverts expectations on numerous accounts. Difficulty scales with your placement and relevance as a character within the story, offering a beautiful merging of gameplay and narrative as you start as a weak ninja and turn into a god killer. I actually think the game received an absolutely amazing amount of thought, it's just simple to shirk the considerations the game received because it wasn't what people expected.
The story is okay if you didn't get spoiled i agree, the combat in other hand is sort of simplistic, i spammed megido through 2/3 of the game killing every single random encounter, and once you understand how AI behaves in respect of the resistances your party has you can avoid actually dangerous situations.
> i spammed megido through 2/3 of the game killing every single random encounter
So every MegaTen game either? Might as well complain about Holy Dance/Drain in both DeSu games and Multi-Strike builds in 2.
>I disagree - if you've not spoiled any of the story, it's a surreal romp that completely subverts expectations on numerous accounts.
It's still shit compared to Strange Journey's.
This makes boss encounters genuinely dangerous affairs, which constantly make you break a sweat. Makes boss enemies truly feel like powerful beasts that are making an effort to test your might. Plus, none are unreasonably strong or require grinding, if you exploit their weakness you're just as likely to dominate, making conflict fast paced and raw, which are not often feelings you encounter in turn based games.
that means that the game promotes in the player the opportunity to learn the systems at play. You grow as your character does creating a compelling mixture of systems in CRPGs and standard RPGs.
I think it's a bit more like comparing two completely different sports. They both set out to perform different things. I think they're both completely brilliant for totally different reasons.
Is it because the DeSu2 anime bombed so hard that no one wants to touch the game again?
Yeah the anime is some grimdark shit with a terrible reset ending, but that doesnt mean the game is not great
Hey im not saying those games don't have their faults. And for the record holy dance/drain is far far less broken than me just using megido and dumpoing most of my points on magic.
>that means that the game promotes in the player the opportunity to learn the systems at play. You grow as your character does creating a compelling mixture of systems in CRPGs and standard RPGs.
I can see your point, still i wish the game was a little more difficult through the mid and late game.
She doesn't even have the biggest in the game though.
The problem with this is not everyone wants a "normal girl", yet most games assume this is the case.
Holy Dance is for faggots. I was a full magic Dancer on my first playthroughs of both DeSur and DeSur2 and after going through DeSur2 and OC with Multi-Strike I repented ever willingly choosing to be a pansy faggot queer and throwing spells at people from a distance.
Yuzu is best girl faggot
At least they gave her a better route in Overclocked
then who? Amane?
>mfw evil Amane(s)
This guy knows. I don't understand when people shit on any SMT or Persona because "it gets too easy". Every fucking game is the same.
Or when people say SMT and Persona's battle systems are completely different. That's always a laugh.
I thought of her as cute, but in that little sister type of way.
>last battle in Gin's route
>Bring Gin, Atsuro, Black Frost
>Black Frost goes home halfway through the battle
god i hated her. the moment i could get rid of her, i did it in a heart beat.
In DeSu1 physical attackers were nigh unusable because half the enemies repelled phys by the end of the game, including the final boss and bonus boss. For those that didn't, Pierce absolutely wrecked them.
having fun /v/? well, it ends here!
I usually hate the
>generic childhood friend love interest girl.
but Yuzu was great
I hated the shit out of her, right until the moment I actually had to fight her. Standing with Keisuke and fighting her and Kaido actually really made me respect her ideology and conversely made me reevaluate Keisuke's staunch view of law and upholding it.
>I brought Gin, Atsuro and Yoohoo
>See Blackfrost leaving
>Always wonder if the game would be evil enough to let you fight Babel with just 3 characters if you bring Black Frost
but dude yuzu's tits are so big dude, dude bro guy you can LITERALLY drown in her tits man boy player
>drown in her tits
The annoying thing about that fight is that even if you can go toe to toe with beldr easily then the rest of your team still has to work overtime to get the reinforcement off your back
also vampiric mist is TOTAL bullshit
>voiced by Erin Fitzgerald in Overclocked
It's like puking on a pile of shit.
Well good on you I guess. I just can't do it. It's SO overdone and as said, I get too tired of games assuming we will like the 'normal' girl the best. It's gotten to a point that you can immediately identify the love interest (though granted, Yuzu's is potentially one-way) the moment you lay eyes on them.
I played P4G after playing Overclocked and I just can't hear Chie anymore without getting pissed because I hated Midori.
She slips into her Midori voice whenever she gets excited too, so it's even worse.
And worst part is that Erin's voice isn't that bad, she was asked to sound as obnoxious and irritating as possible.
She was mai battle waifu in DS1, she had the magic, the vit and the agility to use everything and tank well + 1 extra move. She was basically a weaker, more versatile Yuzu and I loved her for that. Now, thanks to her I play without voices
Atsuro ending is so dumb
>Japan tells their citizens that demons don't exist
>Japan joins as a veto member of the UN security council because they have demons
That's like making a nuclear test near million of your own citizens and saying that it was just an hologram and that test didn't happen and at the same time announce that you are now a nuclear power
I went Amane route first and it wasn't that bad, honestly. The stage makes you realize that you should keep demons that heal on you.
Personally, I had a demon with Recarmloss on every team and just healed the demon that used it/revive it if it died.
Okuninushi was much harder in my opinion.
This. There has been no news on the damn thing, I want to play it so bad, I'm tempted to play the ds version and then replay it whenever the fucker comes out. Which I don't want to do, because overclocked ate up 150 hours of my life
I actually didn't have a problem with his. It's the most fun and if you're not an idiot there's no problems. Now I figured Haru's route would be hard because no demons during the babel fight but that was super easy anyway.
beldr was ez, along with most of 1's bosses
2 varied from easy to pic related
fuck mizar with a rake
Just play it now.
The remake is supposed to be coming with an epilogue that's supposedly long as the original anyway. It's more like a sequel that comes with the first game than a remake.
I can tell you, endings in DS2 are much less varied than in DS1, given how the 7th day is rather samey on all routes. I just gave it two playthoughs, one omnicidal neutral and one power of friendship neutral.
I thought Gin was gonna be a jackass trying to rape Yuzu, he turned out being the best character in the game.
I expected Kaido to be huge asshole and he turned out to be pretty chill too.
TFW he helps you out in Amane's 8th day in OC
>fuck mizar with a rake
Don't remind me. I've developed several tumblr disorders from that fight.
Yeah, 2's bosses were gimmicky pieces of shits but some of them were definitely harder than 1.
>mfw The Yamato fight
I just couldn't deal. Decided to just cheese that shit by using Chaos Breath/Evil Flow(can't remember which).
I let Daichi or Joe handle that shit for me.
easy as fuck, i just lured him into a wall and surrounded him from all sides, then spammed the mistletoe like shit while he was trapped in our gangrape. Kind of wish to see if Almighty works on him, which it should.
couldn't decide wheter Haru or Izuna was my waifu, but sadly Izuna had such shit-tier magic she couldn't use any of phys skills that'd benefit from her neat strength.
I had 2 teams for reviving and the other 2 just kept killing his angel(and getting killed in the process). With auto-Samarecarm and no Blood Wine he runs out of SP pretty fast.
>mfw in Yamato's route
he blasted Ronaldo into the bridge railing
The boss itself wasn't that hard,it was the turn limit that made the battle bullshit.
I just finished the game doing a blind run yesterday went the same path as well. The 7th day was actually pretty easy drain is so overpowered.
The 8th day final boss was kinda rough I had to restart it since it was a stale mate of not being able to kill each other.
Also Haru is good, but Yuzu is best girl.
>Decided to just cheese that shit by using Chaos Breath/Evil Flow(can't remember which)
I did that just because I thought it was gonna be more tedious than exciting and I wanted to see Jungo tear that guy a new asshole.
I know what you mean.
Thinking of her gives "fuck the law" a whole new meaning.
whinny "normal" girl bitch
stupid mojo girl
edgy talentless hack girl
you all have shit taste best Suvivor is obvious
Wrong girl there m80
good tastes, however
She's the only character that died in both of my playtroughs. First time I forgot she even existed and second time,while I did save her,I also went for Naoya ending,so she most likely got raped to death by demons anyway.
A "mojo" is like a fudoshi or basically Tomoko if you've seen Watamote
it's a teenage girl that is obsessed with anime and nerd culture, they're usually fat, smelly and disconnected from the real world because they live in their anime fantasies constantly
If you give the bag to Kaido then he won't kill Useless right away and you get the chance to knock some sense into him.
Not that you'll want to since he's an unlikable useless faggot.
Midori isn't a mojo. A mojo is an unpopular girl, this usually means a fujoshi or female otaku like Tomoko, but not necessarily. A bullied girl also counts as a mojo.
Midori is an internet idol and very popular among the kind of people who care about that, such as Atsuro.
Now back to
Are you talking shit about my waifu? You best check yourself before you shrek yourself.
I couldn't stand that stupid bitch Yuzu either. I didn't care how big her chest was. A man can only take so much and retain his sanity.
I made my MC a mage and so I had no use for her anyway. Didn't play Overclocked, but her ending route in the original is like "Yeah, we told you what would happen if you tried to escape from the lockdown. Looks like you fucked up. Big time."
Atsubro is best girl anyway.
I haven't played Overclocked either, and maybe it's better executed than it sounds, but making her route the best route sounds like a fucking cop out. The whole original point was that the easy way out wasn't the best way. Why they even changed it I have no idea except that too many people choose it because MUHYUZU!
it'll probably be delayed to 2015
I actually liked Yuzu. She's like a peasant character. She just wants it all to go away. She provides a good contrast for the "LET'S SURVIVE AND SAVE THE DAY" characters. And she has a good heart even if she's just a dumb, normal pathetic teenage girl
Her route in the original is also just the stupidest option for this reason. It had to be someone, she got the shit stick. Also not played overclocked
Her original route was retarded anyway
>You kill high level demons and angels, breaking quarantine
>Hurr you lose nigga stay at home
As if you couldn't step outside and fuck them all up regardless.
Because you can't. The whole lockdown was just YHVH's bitch ass giving humanity a chance to prove that it can take care of itself. He was going to brainwash everyone if you failed it.
You get to keep Yuzu in the Overlord route
This was the picture they posted with it iirc
Might not be from a magazine, might be. Really don't remember.
Hmmm while searching for Yuzu in a skintight Pixie outfit I came across a game coming out this month with the DeSu artstyle which somehow escaped my notice.
My first playthrough was haru's ending, I had everything unlocked but atsuro's I think. Second playthrough I did atsuro's but I saw a guide so I could save everyone. I haven't played a third time but I want to play yuzu's.
Looks like Nips don't really like the dancer slut, it's all Io + Airi
Yasuda,the designer,is working on lots of other shit besides SMT. The problem is he repeats himself often. Pic related is from the upcoming Digimon game.
Definitely. We should have trucks in every MegaTen game. It would solve all of our problems.
They were faggots but they didn't deserve to die.
Saving people is the superior route since all the faggots that ditched you when they thought you became the demons come back to help you out. And you still get to gather your demon armies together with your bro and assault heaven.
Just think of it this way.
Break Record is going to have a new scenario that's supposed to be as long as the main story in addition to the first scenario. It's more of a sequel than a port. So you're technically still getting your money's worth.
Was this in vanilla or Overclocked?
Phys builds were pure suffering in vanilla. They still weren't all that in Overclocked, but at least they got some nice skills so you didn't get fucked every time someone had physical defenses, which is pretty much all the time.
I liked 4's battle theme.
No gifs/webms, but have this.
I'm with you there
>"Why bother getting the DS game when they'll just make a 3DS version in the future like Overclocked?"
At the time, (about November 2013) through the uproar of the 4 Persona announcements, I distinctly remember seeing an article that said "Sprig 2014".
And, an anon mentioned it being Spring in a thread about a month ago.
It's been stated for just 2014 for a while now regardless.
I don't think they ever said Spring 2014. I thought so too, but when going back to look for sources, they just said 2014, unless I'm missing one.
I think everyone just thought Spring 2014 because it got pushed back from Summer to Fall to 2014 with the only reason being "quality issues" and people must have just thought it wouldn't take a whole year to fix up some issues so Spring was the most likely choice.
Maybe I'm just being delusional, but I think they're just going to push it back to 2015 instead of having it come out in 2014 facing off against 4 fucking Persona games(well, 3 now since Q is already out in Japan).
Rather than having it compete with other games in the franchise, just push it back and have it come out at a time that'll benefit it.
That seems pretty likely. The Index troubles awhile back were also a factor into it as well.
Atlus USA teased at Break Record last year so I don't think they'll outright can the game. Unless they were sort of assuming that it'd be released or something
I hope Break Record does come out. I think it would improve the game like Overclocked did with DeSu1 and its 8th day endings.
Aside from terrible dub, but that is Atlus USA's fault really.
I knew it
It was because of the Summer Event back in 2013.
Basically, Atlus showed off various games and events and allowed a public play of DeSu 2 BR.
Among the complaints were that it didn't utilized the 3D and that it wasn't all that different from the DS version
Cause of this dude, at least for DeSu 1
>yfw they have full 3D model battles for Break Record like Etrian Odyssey did for 4
and what SMT4 should have had in the first place.
I doubt they would do that, since Atlus is pretty lazy with constantly reusing their demon design assets, but it would be nice after waiting for so long.
That commercial (which is also the only video of BR we have) has some interesting cutscenes or something going on.
At the least, they might make it so the Leader is actually behind their demons
W-what's the rest of that pic uncropped anon?
>mfw the song Haru sings before/during the Babel battle in Gin's route is the fucking opening
God yes I love this fucking game.
Get a demon with phantasma or flight. You can just go right over there without having to lower the stairs. When you do go over there, the stairs lower automatically.
Belberith himself is a big pushover, which is funny considering how hyped he was. Jezebel was much harder in my opinion.
>All those people either not caring about or actively insulting Amane
that'll work for belberith? i thought the lake of fire was an earlier battle?
yeah, i have all my characters equipped with demons that have flight. it seems like the believers fuck shit up for at least one character before i get a chance to hit him.
i guess i have to change my attack strategy, as my characters and (most) of my demons are around the same level as the boss
i thought jezebel was hard when i fought her, but i'm having more difficulty with this one. thanks man!
Everyones penis got errect the first time they've seen this sprite. Just admit it
Is it YHVH or YHWH, I see both used.
And I don't think he was planning for Naoya's interference. Though something I never really understood was WHY he sent the trial. What did you humanity do? I know the Shomonkai leader tried to use
Belberith's power to overcome said ordeal, but did he in doing so bring it on themselves in the first place?
Why girls who tie their hair get 10x hotter when they let it down?
He didn't count on 10k year old assblasted gardener cultivating technology for the explicit reason of fucking him over.
I cleared Amane's route as my first playthrough and then left the game there.
How easy is it to play through to get the other endings? It seems like an unreasonable amount of work to just check the other endings.
NG+ lets you bring over some demons and the compendium if you have enough points. You can also skip text, so it isn't that hard really.
You pretty much blast through most of the game if you brought strong demons.
Please fanart dump time.
Who were y'alls main squads?
DeSu: Yuzu, Gin, Black Frost
DesSu2: Otome, Fumi, Makoto (best harem)
Fumi is the most useful SMT Human party member I've ever encountered, she just absolutely fucking wrecks EVERYTHING in her sexy ass path.
DeSu: Yuzu, Atsuro
DeSu2: Airi, Fumi, Jungo
I don't like the setting that much, DeSu 1 already did it but better.
The characters aren't really doing it for me. Still haven't found anyone i actually like (only up to keita though, so that might change)
The bel demons get replaced by... i don't even know what these rainbow candy demons are.
I can't actually point it out. It feels similar to DeSu 1 with the setting and the combat being pretty much the same, but nothing is pulling me in. Sorry if thats confusing.
As of now, i have absolutely no urge to continue with the game.
I haven't played it myself but from what I saw of the anime the setting just doesn't grab me in the same way DS1's did.
The lockdown and the death clock were these great narratives that made me want to play more whereas I didn't care about the story of DS2 at all. Granted I didn't play the game and the anime is known to be shit so maybe that'll change when I get a chance to play it myself.
I accidentally let Haru die the first time I played DS1 so I went into Atsuro's route. After that I think I got Gin, Amane and Yuzu's routes but that was a long time ago. Just got Overclocked because of eshop sale though. Managed to get access to all endings by the end of the 6th day this time, but I just went with Atsuro's route again. Procrastinating on the Belzaboul fight because fuck that guy.
Look man, you might not like the game, but it was fucking offensive. It should have been its own shitty concept because its bombing fucked over any chance of DeSu3 or Break Record ever coming out.
>nobody likes Midori
>she's actually the only girl I even like enough to consider for waifu status
>even her OC voice turns me on for mysterious reasons
I swear I must have a fetish of shit tastes or something because this isn't even the first time this sort of thing happened, even my kinks and fetishes are dumb.