I was gone last night. How BTFO were the anti-Meta Knight fags?
everyone knew he would be back. he's looking good
Wouldn't it be great if fighting games had lobbies with many people like 16 or something and they could join 4 player games and stuff and you could have like a 4chan lobby and the people could have fun and stuff and everybody would be able to battle each other in the same lobby and stuff wouldn't that be great instead of just a single 2-4 player group?
Come on, did anyone really think one of Sakurai's own children wouldn't make the cut? If anything he'll probably have a brand new Final Smash and a bunch of other shit too, while characters like Wolf and Ganondorf continue to wallow in their cloneness.
The hype thread exploded when we found out Meta Knight was revealed about 30 minutes before the site was even updated.
Fox was mediocre in Brawl because of the change in physics and like half the roster above him can perform infinites on him. The physics in Smash 4 are basically the same as Brawl so it probably won't be too much of a change besides removing his glide.
I main Meta Knight, but I can see how he is a bit overpowered. I am afraid they will nerf his skills in SSB4.
>he's looking good
He looks almost the exact same. If I didn't know better I'd say this is just a shop using his Brawl model.
>post yfw sakurai reveals a final direct this friday or next friday
He has little dents in his shoulder pads and some red stuff on them, too. I realize that.
His wings deconfirmed Ridley
(without saying that he was pretty deconfirmed already)
Most fighting game tier lists organize tiers by letters.
S tier is usually the highest, with characters in S tier significantly changing the metagame just by existing, but it will sometimes go to SS, or even SSS if there is a character/characters that people who play the game consider to be grossly overpowered, even by the standards of other top tier characters.
Metaknight was SS tier. The criteria for SSS tier is "So good that they render every other character 100% irrelevant" or something, i believe.
luigi is not a clone of mario
was a clone of luigi?
Luigi feels like an overall better character, much like captain falcon feels like an overall better character than ganondorf. And since ganondorf was in melee AFTER falcon was in 64, hes obviously the clone.
But mario and luigi were in the same game first.
>it was the
That joke is so meta.
well what else would he be?
he's got higher res textures, more polygons, gauntlets, scratches and chips on his armor in some screenshots
Like honestly, what more could you update the model with? He's simple, there's not much detail you could add, be glad he added those gauntlets cause he's never had em
Considering how simple he is to begin with, of course they didn't need to do much except up the polys and make the textures better. The gauntlets and shoulderpads are definitely better looking from Brawl, though.
>They'll cut Lucas because he's irrelevant and a clone whose moves will become custom moves for Ness and nobody liked Lucas anyway!
It's hilarious, really, some of the shit people come up with to justify wanting a character gone instead of just simply saying the truth and admitting they don't like said character.
Sakurai is going to reveal the rest of the unconfirmed villains besides Ganondorf and Mewtwo so Tonight is Wolf, tomorrow night is Wario with an announcement of a Newcomer trailer that will be a Villain trailer shocasing Ganondorf with a revamped moveset, Mewtwo, Ghirahim, K.Rool and Ridley.
>MUH TOP TIERS AIN'T TOP TEIR NO MORE
>meanwhile Sakurai actually lifts shit tier characters from the gutter to make them actual worthy competitors
Games happen, tiers change faggot
I just saw this screenshot and I'm more happy about the stage than Meta Knight. Dragonite is my favorite pokemon since gen 1 and just knowing he's in this stage makes me so hapy.
>anti-Meta Knight fags
Maybe he'll reveal a vet every week until the final one where he'll show a newcomer? We're four weeks to release now with another 3 starter vets (IC, Wario and Lucas/Ness) to reveal, that plus a newcomer would be the perfect way to lead up to the release.
I think i have become literally autistic as of this week. I have been seeing meta knight pictures all over /v/ and it fucking now occurs to me that he is in. How can this happen /v/, how can i just scroll and see him but not realizing it.
>b-b-but the mask!
The mask was really solid evidence he would be in the game. Just because Sakurai wouldn't make a post that says "I am Metaknight, and I am in this videogame!!!" then go on to disconfirm him.
>Implying there wont be a reveal a week before the game hits in Japan
it would be sooner but street date breakers would kill the hype
>Implying it wont be the trailer to end all trailers
We don't really know if that's a nerf or not without knowing damage, or knockback, or any other change to his moveset and physics, let alone that of all the other character. We're basically blind men examining an elephant.
Just because it has a second hit doesn't mean it's improved. The first hit might be a weak hit meant to set up into the strong hit, but that second hit might be difficult to land properly. Who knows?
Remember when we first found out 'tripping' was in Brawl some guy thought it was a pro technique that let you recover faster and tried to get people to call it 'inkdropping' after his username?
This is what I think of when someone says a character hasn't been nerfed based on a text description of one attack.
I remember that shit. Hilarious.
If we're talking about balance, the only way to not have Meta Knight completely dominate the game is to slow his movement speed down a notch and make him even lighter and easier to KO than Jigglypuff. That way it's easier to capitalize on a MK player's mistakes.
Otherwise, if he's relatively unchanged from Brawl, he's going to dominate again.
Go play some Amazing Mirror or Super Star Ultra instead of lusting for Yoshi's gay ass.
>Using 3DS shot for comparison
You fucking idiot
Sure thing buddy, how's those true arena times?
Still looks extremely similar. Only differences I can see in that image are less jaggies, the red something on his shoulder pads, and the gauntlets.
There, it looks like they just straight up ported his model and gave it HD textures. In the 3DS version, it's almost exactly the Brawl one 1:1, even more so.
Except Ridleyfags which actually are BTFO
he looks sad in that snapshot
also i see that the other update talks about solo mode, and some of the rewards are something mii-related? could it be the mii hats from the mii plaza that you don't have? could it be that we could get more for the plaza too?
>could it be the mii hats from the mii plaza that you don't have?
Even though the Mii hat designs are taken from Mii Plaza, I bet it's not going to automatically unlock all the ones you had. There probably aren't going to be all 172 hats in the game, either.
Pokemon Trainer, Squirtle, and Ivysaur are the only ones I'd bet on. Even then, Sakurai could pull some weird shit.
Pokemon Trainer has six different Pokemon, and every one of his attacks summons one of these Pokemon. After that Pokemon attacks, he recalls it. His Pokemon never take damage, but he himself does.
This is best and most likely list
I just realized he's wearing metal sandles
his black feet are showing
i kind of wished sakurai would have kept battle damaged skins.
maybe they'll have some in wii u version
>mfw all the 3ds team people will hop over to wii u version to make it the ultimate edition
>So those renders are all bullshots?
Brawl literally does not have the capability to make a character that high poly. The cracked mask alt looks nothing like this >>257804881 either
In their defense, I think they were trying to imitate Sakurai's high res high detail character renders. I think.
Lucas isn't because sakurai always prefered him and almost replaces ness with him two times
>b-but japan only
Prince of sable and takamaru are AT, not to mention they are old as fuck
Also sakurai wanted wolf in smash since 64
Well no shit sherlock. He's Meta-Knight, why would they use a model that ISN'T META-KNIGHT.
What were you wanting? They polished it up too, my favorite addition is the metal plating to his gloves.
Lucas is pretty damn irrelevant. If Lucas got reworked some way, maybe he'd be back.
But Wolf is just a fucking shit character. Pretty irrelevant until this new Starfox comes out, too.
I would argue mk needs some nerfs in this new game. I think tornado needs nerfs and his recovery. I think project m nerfed him preety well. I also think the cast needs tools to deal with him imo mk was super strong in brawl due to bad balanceing on most of the characters
Well that's understandable, I knew they were renders and in game would look worse
But damn it is a big difference, seems pretty misleading, specially when people put them against smash 4 alts which are in game screenshots
They're T rated because the games focus so much more on sheer violence than the source materials do. I'm just saying that I wouldn't enjoy having to see all these characters get busted up and visually injured for most of the game time.
for your compare and contrast pleasure
Jigglypuff, Ness, Wario, and then one new character. Maybe that'd be it?
What if they had Pokemon Trainer with Squirtle, Jigglypuff, and Mewtwo? Purin's down b would replace it's up b and the up b would replace the b.
he's talking kirby compared to MK in the picture he replied to
Meta Knight does seem to be more jagged, gotta have all those mask, wing and gauntlet polygons so he can't be as round
Ice Climbers in two weeks time.
Wario the week before the game releases in Japan.
Ness, Jigglypuff, Falco, G&W, Ganondorf, RBO, and Wolf unlockable along with three-four newcomers
Lucas's PSI moves given to Ness for custom moves
Snake, Ivysaur and Squirtle out.
>Lucas is pretty damn irrelevant.
Relevancy is completely
irrelevant.Retro characters are a very clear indicator of this.
>But they're retro, that's the whole point!
Yeah, the whole point of retro characters is COMPLETE IRRELEVANCY.
I hope meta knight wasn't nerfed, just so i can drink competitivefag tears, since he isn't broken unless you're really really good
>transcendent priorty on all but one move
>good kill power
>Disjointed hitboxes everywhere
>Has two different ways of becoming literally invincible for as long as the player likes
>Fast as fuck
No he was broken at almost every level
>good kill power
i remember meta knight being pretty weak as far as KO moves go other than his up special, and that's pretty hard to hit with
>Has two different ways of becoming literally invincible for as long as the player likes
not invincible, he can still be stopped and damaged
and he's pretty light and easy to kill
i'm not denying that he's a great character but he's hardly worthy of
"OMG SO OP BAN FROM ALL TOURNAMENTS"
doesn't even begin to compare to the ice climbers
>Brighter color scheme, especially wings
>Sides of the visor have been brought in a bit
>Eyes now have shading to account for the visor
>Right Pauldron has a few chinks in it, boots have light scratches, mask has scratches in the middle above the visor and is missing a small chunk in the upper right corner(Pic related, these features seem to disappear from picture to picture so this may be a battle damage feature)
>Textures for the Pauldrons are greatly improved
>Mask now looks more like a piece of metal
>Meta Knight symbol on left Pauldron is more pronounced
Meta Knight clearly went through some work. He's pretty simplistic as it is, so I think it's impressive that they got this much detail into him.
Just some putting some info out there. I don't really have an opinion on whether the costume is good or not
Ah, who could forget when Meta Knight was red and a bug.
I did, because up until the release of the artbook, nobody knew about that design.
They picked a design that nobody knew over other designs that would've worked just as well.
>People actually thought Ike, Meta Knight and Captain Falcon were going to be cut
>People still think Ganondorf is going to be cut for Ghirahim
It's like cutting Bowser and replacing him with a Koopaling or Bowser. Jr. You're cutting a main staple of the series for a lesser known character
You gotta mix the obvious with the cool shit, like HectIke here.
I just don't see why people praise these alternate costumes so much. For the most part, it's just your average mod. Like this, I found a Claus outfit fron 2011.
>Game that was exclusive to all non-nintendo consoles is announced for PC, another non-nintendo platform
>Shows no signs of being on the WiiU
>OMG U GUIZE SNAK CUNFERMD