>Game finally comes out
>No new characters, only one moveset that wasn't shown (Great Fairy)
>OC Bitch literally steals the game
>Can't play as the other OCs despite the potential they had
>Celebration of Zelda only represents four games with a few miniscule nods such as the MM Moon
>13 characters, 21 movesets
Disappointment of the year?
Who gives a fuck? I get to play as The Dorf, Ghirahim, and Zant. I'm happy.
Given the fan reaction to Ganon's '80s Metal hair, do you think they're going to incorporate that aspect of the design into mainline Zelda games?
I haven't even played it yet, how am I supposed to know if ti si the dissapointment of the year?
I mean yes, fucking AGITHA made the cut before Groose because japan is full of lolita loving faggots, but I can play as Ganondorf with that beautiful long red hair, Zant, and Ghirahim.
Of course, I have to actually play it. Sept 26th is so fucking far away.
>Warriors Orochi Ultimate 3 and a Samurai Warriors 4 are coming to the other platforms.
And both of those are terrible. Orochi 3 is like a 5 year old game now with a couple new characters that will be fun for about 10 minutes and should have just been DLC, SW4 is the same old shit but now it's Press Triangle To Win
The only Koei game that looks promising is the Bladestorm remix because that was a decent game to start with
If it does come back, I hope they try to make the hair look a bit more wavy and natural instead of SSJ3 hair spikes.
>Disappointment of the year?
It's only a disappointment if you're taking it up the ass from Tyrone.
It's a Musou game from Koei Tecmo
What were you expecting?
It's like you never played a Dynasty Warrior game
>"Zelda fans" are the people who only like 2 games out of the series
As expected from a Nintendo/Team Ninja crossover.
I don't want Ganondorf anymore. I want Zelda U to have actual Ganondorf
Okay what the fuck am I supposed to do here?
What if I've never played a DW game but feel like at least giving it a try with some Zelda hooks to get the initial interest, is this still worth a try?
I just need some games for my Wii U
Why do people think we're getting a sequel? Keep in mind this is Nintendo we're talking about. They're a little more strict with their IP's. One time thing? Yes. A second entry? Not likely. Note how we don't get Mario Parties as excessively anymore? They know there's a point where they have to stop.
So what we see is what we get. It's a disgrace.
>You haven't seen the worst of it.
>literally the first time a musou game has ever looked fun
This is so catchy. It almost makes you forget that you're playing a terrible game.
If they do have Ganon, I hope he actually talks and is a character rather than a raging monster. Yuga was wasted potential; as wonderfully expressive as he was, he just wasn't Ganon.
First entry licensed musous are always rushed and bad, this is pretty much a trap for the clueless Ninten/Zelda drones who don't know better.
The second entry will the one that smart people will pick up.
Look at the enemies just stand around waiting to get hit. Yeah that does look fun if you are under the age of 12.
But that isn't even a hamster. That's a guinea pig.
>he just wasn't Ganon
Good. You've got Ganon stealing the villain spotlight in LttP, in the Oracle games, in TP... Give Ganon a fucking rest already. I was groaning when they showed Ganon in a LBW trailer cause it was just another case of "welp, this new villain was actually just a pawn of Ganon!", but having Yuga turn into Yuganon was a surprising twist that was done pretty well.
>dat literal XXXYYY gameplay
People were excited for this?
they've been showing trailers on easy mode because it's easier to show off moves and combos and stuff
on higher difficulties, if you get knocked down once, you will get swarmed and killed
>dat literally pressing buttons to attack
how do you play your games nigga?
>no references to LTTP, Oracle games, or the DS games
>No Vaati, no Onox, no Veran
come on they could have had great movesets as well (wind magic, ball and chain, transformations fuck give her Agitha's shit)
>on higher difficulties, if you get knocked down once, you will get swarmed and killed
No you don't.
In higher difficulties, your allies get stupider and weaker. You need to constantly run back to your base just to fight off normal soldiers, otherwise it's instant gameover.
Watch derpanite's stream, it's the most tedious shit ever.
>Tell people to try out the other games in the series before HW to avoid disappointment
>But those aren't Zelda at all! This game will be great anyways!
Those same people day 1 will probably be shitting on it
Amazing. I was looking forward to this game, now im not. Thanks for saving me $60
Did he say that before of after Tecmo and Koei merged?
>oh boy I can't wait to play as those interesting new characters except Lana because she's clearly a shit
>only Lana is playable
I feel like Lana's design makes more sense when you know her role in the story.
She's not actually a real person, she's just the personified goodness that was driven out of Cia.
So it makes some sense that she seems exactly like Japan's version of the "perfect idol" as opposed to a grounded character.
It's still a fucking stupid plot point regardless.
>Zelda games have had
>a rock star who plays a fish bone like a guitar
>a disco dancing townfolk
>flamboyant homosexuals from small to large
>a hand that lives in a toilet
>Mario and Luigi with Bowser jewelry
>but the cute girl who dances, SHE'S out of place
>Next sequel we'll be able to play as OP as fuck Sabo
But Ganon is a staple of Zelda just like Sigma is a staple of MMX.
This doesn't really make her any better. Actually in a way it makes her worse, since unlike with the example here >>258287743
she doesn't die when Cia does. Nor do they merge back.Cause she's just SO special and we can't have her 'perfection' being tainted by having a real personality.
ITT: Sonyggers complaining about a good game saying it's shit because they don't have it,
>"I haven;t played the game, but it's awful anyways!"
Id say the issue is they have a whole bunch of potential that's wasted cause koei can't stop rehashing and appealing to weebs.
Imagine if they included fucking online with verses. Or the ability to control the armies like an RTS? Or a couple of simple new mechanics?
The series could easily become really fucking good but they seem content to let it sit at shitty niche weeb games
All I know is that there's a supposed "Death Valley" stage and the speculation was that it was a Zelda 2 area, and as one of the few people on /v/ that have played and beaten Z2 that shit got me hype
>crazy and odd stuff in Zelda, which make the games creative and give them some identity
>moe pop idol in Zelda, the same type of genki girl you see in any modern anime
It's two different styles of weirdness, numbnuts.
I FUCKING TOLD YOU MOTHERFUCKERS THIS GAME WAS A MESS
Yeah what's that anime color hair shit doing in my Zelda, Link only has brown hair
You will help an idol become popular in Zelda U. Are you ready?
Idols are fuckhuge in Japan, and my assumption is that it's one of the best Idol series (or worst pandering overrated bullshit, who knows, I'll see when I watch it) to grace the animango medium.
That right there killed all interest I had in this game and the WiiU as a console. I have the money to throw around, but people I like to play games with are all over the place, like my brother lives halfway across the country, or I have great friends up in Canadia, that's cool. I have friends here, but none of them are really into gaming much. So this game has no online, Mario platformers have no online, the only things that do are Mario Kart and possibly Smash Bros? What's the fucking point.
I would've bought one if Nintendo didn't insist on it still being 1985 where everyone lives together. We don't live together motherfucker, we grew up. I understand it's a console geared towards the younger audience and that's perfectly fine, but Nintendo has completely and utterly forgotten the generation that got them where they are. I don't mind if the games aren't violent, or they're still kind of cutesy in a way like Pikmin or something. But fuck, get with the times. Instead, they just jam their heads in the sand.
I mean shit, I have nephews that play games online with each other, again across the country. They're like, 10 years old, but what do they use? Xbox, because Nintendo is fucking retarded.
How could you possibly be dissapointed? It's Dynasty Warriors with some Zelda paint.
Who the holy fuck gets excited about a themed DW? DW has always been a shitty game and and only autists ever gave a shit.
The best part is that this game will easily get 9.0 ratings just because of the hype + Zelda. Koei gets a sizable profit, and in return all Warrior games will finally have enough funding to be actual good games!
By your account I'm inclined to believe that my latter hypothesis was true.
This should be interesting. I'll have my friend whip out his torture anime folder next time we get together.
No, you cannot play as any of the interesting new characters, because that would be a good thing. We're waiting for them to be sold back to us as DLC.
I wasn't saying anything about the amount of people you play with. I was saying Mario Kart and Smash Bros are the only WiiU games I have any interest in that have online multiplayer.
I like to play a ton of games single player. Dynasty Warriors is most definitely not a fun game to play solo for longer than 10 minutes at a time. With a friend though, it's good stupid fun.
>I was saying Mario Kart and Smash Bros are the only WiiU games I have any interest in that have online multiplayer.
So? Is online gaming THAT important to you? Aren't you aware of Devil's Third
Here's a list of alt weapons:
Lana has a magic Book of Spirits, Sealed Magic Book, and Magic Book of Heavens
Lana has gate of time, Watcher's Gate, and Gate of Rebirth
Ghirahim has Demon's Sword, Demon's Longsword, and Demon's Black Blade Sword
Link has Knight's Sword, White Sword, and Magical Sword
Link has Fire Rod, Red Rod, and Magical Rod
Link has Silver Gloves, Gold Gloves, and Power Gloves
Zelda has Baton of Winds, Holy Baton, and Baton of Affection
Ruto has Silver Scale, Gold Scale, and Scale of Water Dragon
Ganondorf has Evil King's Swords, Swords of Everlasting Darkness, and Swords of Demise
Agitha has Butterfly parasol, Luna Parasol, and Princess Parasol
Sheik has Goddess' Harp, Harp of Storms, and Sheikah Harp
Fi has Goddess' Sword, Goddess' Longsword, and Goddess' White Blade Sword
Darunia has Magic Hammer, Hammer of Flames, and Megaton Hammer
Zant's weapons haven't been scanned yet for some reason.
Holy shit I didn't know I needed to be 100% absolutely precise with what I was saying guys.
Out of the available and up-and-coming WiiU titles that I am aware of and have actively taken a look at, there are only two that have online multiplayer that looks enjoyable. Outside of that, there are no single player games that are only available on the WiiU that interest me enough to justify purchasing the console.
Is that better? And no that game doesn't really look very interesting to me, sorry.
Why don't you just say "I don't like shooters" and move on? Comparing it to CoD is HUGELY off base.
> And no that game doesn't really look very interesting to me
I'd argue you've got poor taste in games then. You must like some pretty boring stuff.
>Ghirahim has Demon's Sword, Demon's Longsword, and Demon's Black Blade Sword
>Ganondorf has Evil King's Swords, Swords of Everlasting Darkness, and Swords of Demise
CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIN
>Why don't you just say "I don't like shooters"
Because I like shooters. I just prefer ones that look fun and interesting and not the same shit that's been coming out for decades.
>No it's different because it's in third-person and has watermelons
I can understand liking Nintendo (because I do) but let's not grasp at every exclusive like it's incredible just because one of us is starving for exclusives.
>>258293947any good Idol manager game where you can cut deals with the yakuza to undercut your competition and use shills in the web to forge your idol's image and tarnish the image of your rivals?
>Because I like shooters. I just prefer ones that look fun and interesting
I don't think you could recognize one if it came up and slapped your girlfriend's ass at the club.
> it's different because it's in third-person and has watermelons
How about it's a third person action game with high speed melee combat and first person aiming. Can you even name another shooter with that combination of core mechanics? I don't think so. You're just a shallow cunt who see modern guns in modern settings and loses his ability to judge anything other than that.
>Let's not grasp at every exclusive like it's incredible j
Devil's Third looks incredible.
Captain Toad on the other hand
Well, that's just being rude then. It doesn't look interesting because it's some weird mash-up of Total Overdose and Call of Duty/SOCOM? Ok. It still doesn't look interesting to me, are you a big fan of Sunset Overdrive too or something? Cause this looks like the military-tacticool-bro version of that, and that game looks like ass as well.
I'm not narrow-minded, and I was hoping Hyrule Warriors would be a fun game, but I lost interest when I found out I wouldn't be able to coop it with friends, because Dynasty Warriors just isn't fun to play by yourself for much time, at least not to me.
I like all kinds of games, and I don't multiplayer often in them, I prefer coop most of all, but usually singleplayer. This game just doesn't look like it's much fun to me, so sorry, but my taste in games is different than yours, maybe chill out a bit.
Not FPS aiming, but Warframe fits all of that, and does it better than Devil's Third looks to.
>>Ganondorf has Evil King's Swords, Swords of Everlasting Darkness, and Swords of Demise
What the fuck even are those. What is this shit.
Are you telling me they put THREE movesets on Ganondorf and not ONE of them was a Trident? Or, fuck, hand-to-hand+magic like in OoT? God help me if the "swords of everlasting darkness" is some OC shit.
>Link only gets Fire Rods, no Ice, Sand, Wind
>no Trident moveset where Ganondorf turns into Ganon
>fucking donut steal has more movesets than Zelda and Ganondorf
The DLC better be God-tier and mostly free if they expect me to buy this.
>Not FPS aiming
then you've lost your argument.
> Warframe fits all of that
Has nothing remotely resembling all the cool modes from DT or the campaign.
>does it better
Warframe is junk. You can't know how good Dt is until you've played it. I strongly belive it's got amazing potential.
>I don't think you could recognize one if it came up and slapped your girlfriend's ass at the club.
Oh that's real clever and mature.
>Can you even name another shooter with that combination of core mechanics? I don't think so
Nobody bothered combining first-person aiming with third-person movement because it's not important at all. It's not innovative, it doesn't add to the game, and it's not a selling feature. And high-speed combat in shooters has been done plenty before, for example Vanquish (which was actually a very underwhelming shooter).
>Devil's Third looks incredible
It looks like every other shooter released in the past seven years except it has third-person movement combined with first-person aiming for no reason other than to be unique and the ability to carry fruit with some melee animations.
>being disappointed when lied to
>You can't know how good Dt is until you've played it.
So clearly what you should do is act like it's the best thing ever and that anyone questioning its holiness has shit taste in shooters.
I love that you're just getting snappier at everyone politely refuting your points or just saying "Nah that's not for me.", grow up, there's 3 or 4 different people telling you that game looks very meh. Warframe has its issues, but its melee is pretty intricately designed, that game shows clearly that every single melee weapon is just a stat stick, instead of different stances, varying combos and attacks. I'm not even a big fan of the game as it's buggy as shit, but don't just spout off crap and screech at everyone that our word is bullshit but your opinion is concrete.
Google "celebration of all things Zelda." It's a popular quote that implies a celebration of, you guessed it, all things Zelda, and not just four games.
All things Zelda =/= four Zelda games
>Nobody bothered combining first-person aiming with third-person movement because it's not important at all
Third person aiming is shit
>It's not innovative
Then show me all the predecessors
>it doesn't add to the game
Yes it does. It changes how combat flows and feels
>it's not a selling feature
> high-speed combat in shooters
Not melee combat with a variety of weapons. Go show me all those shooters where you can combo people to death with a katana.
>has been done plenty before,
Again, you're moving a goalpost.
>a very underwhelming shooter
SHIT TASTE OVERWHELMINGLY CONFIRMED
>It looks like every other shooter released in the past seven years
so they all had a silly anime story, melee weapons as a major focus in combat as well as a focus on vertical level design? They had interesting persistent clan systems and map building tools? Show me all these recent shooters with SEVERAL goofy game modes.
> third-person movement combined with first-person aiming for no reason
Because it's cool. It's fun. First person aim will always be better than faggy little reticles in third person.
Resident Evil 4/5/R/6 lasersights are ok though
>Has an entire mode dedicatedto classic Zelda
>Has different weapons and things that reference all zeldas
Playable character=/= celebration ya ignorant cunt.
There is plenty of references and other things in the game to other Zeldas.
You sound like a retarded smashfag right now.
Sorry mate, but she donut steel Hatsune Miku waifu doesn't really feel Zelda-ish to me. I hope it's just a one-off character.
>its melee is pretty intricately designed
So? Did I mention anything about COMPLEX melee combat?
>instead of different stances, varying combos and attacks.
Because it's not fucking DMC or Bayonetta. Why combo somebody who's dead after the first few strikes? The game lives in a pseudo realism where people die easily but not instantly.
And you'd be wrong in the extreme. but it doesn't matter if I pull out my internet dick and slam it onto the table. It doesn't make my opinions are more or less valid.
>everyone politely refuting
I have yet to see a single refutation. Just unsupported claims that amount to idiocy.
Well, I did like some of the ideas it put out, like Silver/Golden Gauntlets weaponized, but there were so many cool things they could have included and didn't.
>no Nabooru with Iron Knuckle alt
>only a few characters from OoT, TP and SS with just a few nods to games outside those
>Cia, and especially Valga and Wizzro, all not playable
>little variation in enemies and allies
I'll wait till next time I suppose.
>Because it's cool. It's fun.
>hasn't actually played the game but is insisting that this is a fact, while telling others they can't know it's bad without playing it
Yep I'm on /v/ alright
>>only a few characters from OoT, TP and SS with just a few nods to games outside those
There were a lot of characters and tons of movesets.
There was also loads of nods to other games.
The story IS silly anime fodder. That's much better than "generic muhreen savin us frum dah turbans". It looks like it'll have atleast a couple fun moments in it. You telling me you didn't enjoy the character interactions in Binary Domain? That the plot of Vanquish wasn't enjoyable low grade B movie shit?
Why would you want to add a character and then make an alt skin that turns them into a completely different character
I hope Nabooru gets added and never gets hidden away inside a big clunky suit of armor
>But they said there'd be a 50/50 gender ratio!
No, they said AROUND 50/50.
>But they said there'd be 52 weapon styles!
No, if you actually look for that quote the only source you can find is a fucking neogaf post that says Aonuma said it in a gamespot interview, yet it's impossible to find that anywhere in any gamespot interview.
>B-but Prima said there were over 15 character!
Wrong again, Pixeldynamo said that. If you actually go to the prima site they make absolutely no mention about the number of characters
>But they said that if you have a favorite character, you can play as them!
No, they didn't. This was on the NoA site but it was later removed.
You've lied to no one but yourselves for getting hyped up over nothing. Start doing research from now on.
>anything that happened in MM
ITT: KOEI Tecmo ruining another Nintendo franchise
>Not melee combat with a variety of weapons. Go show me all those shooters where you can combo people to death with a katana.
>So? Did I mention anything about COMPLEX melee combat?
>Because it's not fucking DMC or Bayonetta. Why combo somebody who's dead after the first few strikes? The game lives in a pseudo realism where people die easily but not instantly.
See, now I'm just not sure if there's two of you morons or it's just one rabid idiot contradicting himself. But either way, you're a dumbass, I hope you enjoy your game when it comes out, I don't think that it will have a lasting community as it looks like crap, but hey whatever floats your boat man.
Oh, almost forgot, how much gameplay do the musou games usually give?
Her back story is just an excuse to make another Japanese moe perfect idol or whatever you want to call it.
It's still shit. I just hope this abomination of a character isn't a sign for things to come to actual canon Zelda games.
I'm watching it a stream of it right now, and still plan to pick it up when it comes out here.
I don't really care for any of the arguments ITT
Her idol-inspired animations, her attire, her animeish reactions, how she is basically the focus of the show. Maybe I'm just giving her shit for being an 'outsider', a new character from another company that just so happens to be inserted right in the middle of the story.
Who knows, if she was an NPC in Zelda's newest game many people would claim her as they're waifu. But, honestly, it feels like Koei Tecmo is pushing her too hard. And that may be the ultimate reason why I dislike her.
>items and other references from many games (several wind waker references, littered with Zelda 1 and Zelda 2 references, lost woods in this game are based off of ALTTP, badges have TONS of references from all over, MM Moon is an attack with the hookshot, Onox's ball and chain is a weapon for Link
But I guess only playable characters constitute as references?
Vanquish is most certainly not that good. Just because you can go fast occasionally doesn't make it a better shooter than anything else. Being made by Platinum also doesn't make it a better shooter than anything else. It's better than most mediocre shit, that's for sure, but it's really just another okay shooter with a few good ideas but not really entertaining and short as fuck.
>That the plot of Vanquish wasn't enjoyable low grade B movie shit?
The plot of Vanquish was fucking awful and had a shitty ending. Not even the enjoyable kind of awful, just the boring waste-of-time awful.
Good for you, how about not acting like a defensive prick every time the quality comes into question with polite and valid criticism?
I'm seeing 13 playable all up, and about 10 more alt movesets. That doesn't strike me as a lot. I'm still hoping there'll be more next time.
That doesn't even halfway relate to what I was saying
Because it struck me as the easiest excuse for a playable Iron Knuckle
Oh right because we WANTED this to be tortanic, we WANTED this to be disappointing, we WANTED a game that we were looking forward to turn out to be not all that it was cracked up to be.
Seriously, how do people like you even function in society with that kind of mindset?
That's one I haven't heard of.
I disregard your information and provide emotional structurized motivation to make you play a game.
I'd care about the story if it had seriously fleshed out cutscenes and alternate scenarios beyond just fighting guys. Wasn't Injustice's campaign kinda like that?
>one rabid idiot contradicting himself
There's no contradiction. you think I aid you don't combo people but also that you do. that's not what happened. first I said there's almost no shooters with a heavy emphasis on fast melee combat. That's true.
Next I said the game's combat didn't need to be be complex and denied ever claiming or implying otherwise. In DT you take maybe 3-4 hits to kill people. That's not enough time for people to get into anything complex or deep.
Nice reading comprehension though. don't bother coming at me in an argument unless you can track all the thread of discussion clearly.
>Vanquish is most certainly not that good.
And you saying this confirms you as a complete fucking retard. Without any shadow of a doubt.
>The plot of Vanquish was fucking awful
No it wasn't. It was a fun goof off. What the fuck did you expect? Dickens?
I'll concede that.
> polite and valid criticism
But none of it was valid. Stupid people deserve rude responses. You said stupid things. you've done nothing but say stupid things
>Vanquish isn't one of the best shooters of all time
>Devil's Third looks like CoD
>Every shooter in the past 7 years is like Devil's Third
>Stories in games are never important
>First Person Aiming adds nothing to a game
>Disappointment of the year?
Zeldafag here, why would anyone ever give a fuck about a muso game? They could have fucking Skull Kid, Onox, Twinrova, Linebeck, Byrne and Moosh playable and it'd still be nothing more than a rental.
Not that anon but Nintendo already went overboard with the weeb pandering shit with Skyward Sword's pure moe Zelda.
Midna was starting to push it, but after SS and now this, I think it's safe to say that Nintendo is desperate to sell Zelda serious out to the weebs for those Nip otaku sales.
I refuted every criticism leveled at the game with a well reasoned and backed arguement
>It looks just like CoD in every way
Only the setting
>It's the same shit that's been coming out for decades
So show me all these games. Show me the territory you think Devil's third is retreading. put up or shut up.
>if you're not good at shooters
What the fuck does skill have to do with anything? When debating the quality of single player shooters, challenge never comes into the equation. They're not about challenge. They're about fun.
Okay, let's change my statement
I can understand the lack of characters because it's a new musou series but there's really no excuse for Cia, Wizzro, and Valgia to not be playable.
Anything else I need to change for you you fucking baby?
I've seen more content in this game than any other first time musou game.
I can't wait to buy it.
I'm almost glad there isn't online if it would be populatec with you fucks.
So far the only criticism I've seen that is somewhat coherent is that there is a cute girl in the game and you use buttons combos to attack.
Sounds like a vain attempt at some ebic haet macheen bullshit to me.
Go to bed Robbie, you're going to work yourself up into wetting the sheets again!
But, really. Just let it go dude, you lost the argument, and you've in fact driven people away from the game you're so in love with by being a total prick to everyone saying anything remotely negative or even answering the piddly points you tried to make before. It's a shit game, apparently going to be populated by shitheads. You enjoy it for the 2 weeks that it has an online population, but afterwards you can come back and post that we were right.
>any other Musou game
>first time musou
Oh so we're changing it to that now.
>I'm almost glad there isn't online if it would be populatec with you fucks.
Now say you're glad Dante doesn't have white hair so that the old fans won't like it.
>Oh so we're changing it to that now.
I meant it that way in the first place. Most musou series don't have unique features like grass cutting or lock on or even modes with as much effort put into them as the classic Zelda mode. Most first time musou games don't even have as many characters.
>Now say you're glad Dante doesn't have white hair so that the old fans won't like it.
No, I'm saying that I'm glad it doesn't have online because people like you. Dante's hair is it's own seperate matter and peopel weren't nearly as whiney over it as they are anything in HW.
>muh haloid bawwwwwwwww
Said it before as others have, you primefags are long overdue for a permanent global ban from 4chan. You run into any thread you can to shitpost and act like whiny spoiled entitled children. You are the worst fanbase on /v/ and probably one of the top ten worst groups of posters on the whole site. Leave
>I refuted every criticism leveled at the game with a well reasoned and backed arguement
No you didn't, you just said no and acted like a cunt because you couldn't take the criticism of a Nintendo game.
>Show me the territory you think Devil's third is retreading
Every Call of Duty, Battlefield, and Medal of Honor, Counter-Strike, Wolfenstein the New Order, Sniper Elite, Killzone, Resistance, and all those free-to-play generic shooters for PC.
It's sad that Darunia and Ruto were the last real reveals. The last trailer was just "Oh hey remember those two random boss faggots we showed from from before? They're playable now kthanx,"
At leas they went went out with a Ganondorf sized bang.
>No, I'm saying that I'm glad it doesn't have online because people like you
You're glad it doesn't have online because I think Wizzro, Valgia, and Cia should have been playable if they bothered to make a moveset for them. That's a very immature and spiteful mindset.
I'm hoping for a sequel too, so they can fix the gaping content-sized hole in this one
i plan on getting this game but im not hyped for it in anyway shape or form since i know what im getting
this really is nintenkids first DW game the only reason they are only interested in it is because zelda is plastered all over it i can be t you a dollar they wouldn't touch any other dw games that come out on the wii u
>you lost the argument
by refuting everything everybody said? I mean seriously I think the only point I've conceded on is that Vanquish had a shitty ending.
> you've in fact driven people away from the game you're so in love with
I doubt anybody buys games based on 4chan posters.
> to everyone saying anything remotely negative
You can say anything you want about it provided that it isn't obviously wrong and stupid. The way you guys have justified your opinions have been absurd. Let me give you an example of how absurd:
>I don't like Valkryia Chronicles because it's just another World War 2 game.
> You enjoy it for the 2 weeks that it has an online population
Regardless of your opinion of the game you'd be stupid not to admit it's got the look of a game that will generate a loyal if not minial playerbase. I bet /v/ might even be the most influential clan, the game's got all the markings of something we could even do on /vg/
> you just said no and acted like a cunt
10/10 reading comprehension.
>Every Call of Duty, Battlefield, and Medal of Honor, Counter-Strike, Wolfenstein the New Order, Sniper Elite, Killzone, Resistance, and all those free-to-play generic shooters for PC.
So you're THAT stupid? you think any and all shooters with modern weaponry are the same? Again, we come back to my first point. You don't like the genre. You're like a racing game player who only like Mariokart and CTR.
>peopel weren't nearly as whiney over it as they are anything in HW.
What? Yes they were probably moreso than this, where the fuck have you been?
>quote from the man who has only made one good game in his life (NGB)
>DOA was bad until DOA5 which he did not make
>DOAX has never been good
>NG2 vanilla was a trainwreck
>Devil's Turd looks like garbage
Yeah his opinions sure mean a lot.
One reason I never touched DW before now is because the setting and characters bored the shit out of me.
Hyrule Warriors fixed that, but in the most barebones and unappealing way possible.
She was a cute tsundere who warmed up to Link and hogged a majority of his or other characters' screen time, and the entire story revolved around her.
Despite that, she was still relatively interesting and unique, and didn't really have any of pure traits and shit that otaku idolize in their waifus.
Lana and SS Zelda were as generic as otaku-catered pandering anime blobs could possibly get.
>That's a very immature and spiteful mindset.
No it isn't.
It's a "Holy shit, these people are fucking awful, I am so glad I don't have to deal with them outside these awful threads in order to play my game."
I'll just invite some peeps over and we'll play splitscreen.
Enjoy being a whiney cunt and making shit terrible false equivalencies though.
Musou games are awesome. Not every game has to be 2hard4me/2deep4me etc. Some people just like mowing down thousands of enemies and feeling like a boss. Honestly they never try to be anything more than a simple hack n slash anyway.
I don't see it.
Probably because I'm not a Zelda fag.
The only people who whined about his hair were assholes trying to portray the old fans as loons.
Most people complained about the shit combat.
>Holy shit, these people are fucking awful,
For thinking that three characters with movesets already made should have been playable? No, that's incredibly immature. When somebody doesn't appreciate something in a game you like, you disregard it as "whining." That's most certainly immature.
>I don't see it.
The game is focused on the three least interesting and shittiest Zelda games.
You know that Zelda is mostly a 2D/Handheld franchise right? It's had MORE 2D/handheld games than 3D console entries alone.
>So you're THAT stupid? you think any and all shooters with modern weaponry are the same? Again, we come back to my first point. You don't like the genre. You're like a racing game player who only like Mariokart and CTR.
See, you just did it again. You just disregarded it, didn't provide any sort of argument, and acted like a cunt. Clearly you have no intent to actually discuss anything, you just want to be a dick and disregard every other opinion while putting yours up on a pedestal and getting angry at everyone who doesn't agree, and I know for a fact your next post won't change any of that, so this is the last response you get from me. Be sure to include a witty comeback to get me to reply again.
That's exactly what it is. I was unhappy that they're not playable even though time was taken to give them movesets, and you got angry at that, because god forbid someone wants a little more out of a game, and god forbid you have to interact with those people.
If that's not it, then I expect you should be able to explain thoroughly why I'm a bad person for expecting a little more out of this game, and why playing online with someone that does is such an incredible injustice to you.
>The game is focused on the three
Nope, don't see it.
>You know that Zelda is mostly a 2D/Handheld franchise
That's 2/3rds of the franchise. It exist almost equally in 2d/3d/ and on handhelds.
It's biggest installments however are in 3D.
I t still pays tribute to other games.
Character reps aren't everythign you retarded Rosterfag.
>She's not moe.
No, but she's cute-looking.
>She is in fact quite nasty looking.
Not at all. Compared to some of earlier concepts from Hyrule Historia, the Zelda team picked a particularly cute design in comparison to some of the others that they had.
>She is a spiteful little ass.
Hence, a tsundere who didn't really have all of the pure or moe traits that otaku like to see in waifus.
It's not like I'm saying she was a bad character or anything anon. If anything she's one of my favorite Zelda characters.
Love Live was around for a few years before the anime, stricktly as CDs and real life appearances by the casts. Some concerts, some cafe appearances.
Idols have always been big in japan, LL took years of work into the behemoth it is today. The first season was so well done it almost broke people and turned them into obsessed addicts.
Especially with the "I have no relationship and minimal passions outside living day to day" crowd. So most of japans male youth
And its just great. I swear you have no idea how much of a hard on I had while the popularity soared. Shit made me cry
As for why the sales are so retarded, there were bonus for the mobile game along with other raffle shit like meetups with the girls. So a lot (and I mean a lot more hten you think) would end up buy 10-20 copies of cds/blurays
>That's exactly what it is
No it isn't.
I said I was happy they didn't put online in it, because then all the retarded Zelda casuals like you would get into it and it would ruin the online community because this is going to end up being a lot of people, including yours aparently since you seem to be a huge dipshit, first musou game.
But yeah. stop shitposting.
>the generic moeblob is the one that lives on
>she doesn't commit sudoku in order to allow best Cia tittymonster to be revived and gain redemption
and the chance to fuel those link obsession doujins
>You just disregarded it
Yes I did. I'm not obligated to slowly refute statements that are OPENLY absurd. I mean shit, you think COUNTERSTRIKE already did what Devil's Third is trying for? Your list is trash. Nobody would need to refute somebody who ran into his house screaming that "You should give me all your valuables because I'm a Martian Emperor" You'd call him a stupid faggot and kick him out.
Let me be EXTREMELY generous here. Wanna know what game has come close to covering the territory Devil's Third wants to?
Shadow Warrior or maybe Lost Planet. Lost Planet for being a TPS with japanese design sensibilites and vertical level design and Shadow Warrior for being a shooter with a focus on melee combat
Nope, don't see it.
It only has content from those three games. The DEVS even admit to this.
>That's 2/3rds of the franchise
That's right. More than half the franchise has been ignored. That'd be like a Smash Bros game with only Mario/Zelda/Kirby/Pokemon
>It still pays tribute to other games.
Not even remotely enough
>Character reps aren't everything
They are when you make your game have a large roster of playable characters like this. IF it was just Link+Zelda+Shiek+Ganondorf? Nobody would be whining. Nobody.
Love Live is the strongest idol based show by far, although its more about the character development.
Wake up girls is the abonination of idol anime, it was cheap, lazy and nothing but a cash in off Idolmaster and LL popularity.
Also AKB anime, along with that kid show that I can't spell
>because then all the retarded Zelda casuals like you would get into it and it would ruin the online community because this is going to end up being a lot of people
You most certainly did not say that. You just said you were glad they didn't put online because I would be playing it.
>first musou game.
No, I have played Musou before. Which is exactly why I say that those characters should have been playable in the first place.
Clearly your anger is misdirected. You're getting angry at me when you mean to get angry at the people who have never played Musou and are hopping on the bandwagon as Zelda fans.
>It only has content from those three games.
No, it has content from a LOT of different Zeldas. You're just a retard who thinks the only content is characters.
>That's right. More than half the franchise has been ignored.
> That'd be like a Smash Bros game with only Mario/Zelda/Kirby/Pokemon
Like the first one?
>Not even remotely enough
It does them justice which is more than I can say for your shitty post.
>They are when you make your game have a large roster of playable characters like this
No. Not even close.
This is YOUR retarded shitpost's viewpoint.
>You most certainly did not say that. You just said you were glad they didn't put online because I would be playing it.
Yeah, I'm so glad that Zelda Casuals including you, are not playing it you hyper literal fuck.
90% of the posters in HW threads ever touched a musou game.
Wow, these threads are terrible. Who the fuck is it that keeps vehemently defending this like it's a perfect game with literally no flaws at all, the Nintendo drones or the Musou drones?
>Zelda is clearly not japanese western video game without any animustyle or moe characters
>Koei should die for disgracing great western dark gothic fantasy series
>No, it has content from a LOT of different Zeldas
one attack from Majora's Mask and a reskin of the ball and chain weapon. WOW.
They haven't even put in a small reference for most of the games. They're TOTALLY ignoring alttp/albw and the Oracles.
>Like the first one?
which also had Donkey Kong, Earthbound and Metroid
>It does them justice which
So "justice" is to toss a couple half assed references to a couple of the games you left out?
>Not even close.
Large roster = fanservice. Fanservice = the right to demand pandering and catering of needs
>Yeah, I'm so glad that Zelda Casuals including you, are not playing it you hyper literal fuck.
Like I said, I have played musou before. And this is going to make you extremely upset, but I'm going to say it: I plan to play this game. And if you're going to be a baby and get angry because certain types of people play the same games as you (like I deal with all the time, because most of my favorite things have retarded fanbases), then you can go ahead and do that, but I'm going to be an adult and not worry about that because who I play musou online with doesn't matter, nor does it matter who else plays games I like.
>one attack from Majora's Mask and a reskin of the ball and chain weapon.
And an entire game mode devoted to the original. And all the design nods, and loads of other things that you actively ignore because you're a cunt.
>They haven't even put in a small reference for most of the games
Oh, I'm sure you've played it through and through, now haven't you?
>which also had Donkey Kong, Earthbound and Metroid
Which were all really big and about on par with everything else. The first 64 game only had 12 characters. How dare they have such a small roster!
>So "justice" is to toss a couple half assed references
I'm going to stop replying if you don't stop passing off everything off as "NOT GOOD ENOUGH!" you act worse than waifu fags, except with video games.
See, this is the problem. You people think that every criticism towards the game means that they don't like it and are implying that no one should. Guess what? I do like it. I am going to play it. But you see, I'm not a fucking teenager who can't take criticism. Unlike you people, I can actually point out flaws in games I like, even my favorite ones. For example, while Silent Hill 3 is my favorite game, I don't like the fact that the ability to really understand and enjoy the plot hangs on whether or not you've played Silent Hill 1 and acquired the good ending, because I like games better when they function perfectly stand-alone.
Why can't you people take criticism like that and accept that the game is not perfect, and that there is room for improvement?
why do people who enjoy musou games have such low standards for their games?
Why wouldn't you want more complicated in depth combos? Why wouldn't you want dodging and parrying? Why wouldn't you want dashing or vaulting? Why are you okay with such simplistic shallow gameplay? And don't just go HURR THATS JUST WHAT MUSOU IS. This is all coming from someone who's played almost every dyanasty warriors.
why does it have to be this way.
why can't musou games be
good? is it possible that konami hhas a monopoly on musou games and everyone else is afriad to try? I bet if platinum made a musou game it would be a thousand times better than a dynasty warrior's game
This is what /v/ actually believes.
>I have played musou before
No you haven't. You've made it extremely obvious in the way you post you have very little to no knowledge of the franchise before
>Hasn't even played it
Way to prove you're a jackass.
>I'm going to stop replying if you don't stop passing off everything off as "NOT GOOD ENOUGH!"
Oh no, please not that, don't punish us with that. We won't be able to live without your strawmanning.
>every criticism towards the game
Why don't you think up some actual criticism besides things that have been a staple of the series since day one and loved by it's fans.
> I'm not a fucking teenager
I highly doubt it.
Lana fits fine in Zelda, Zelda has never been one thing. Except that its elves living in a high fantasy world. Tolkien fantasy can go shit itself for being an old codger that wont go away in western fantasy.
>No you haven't. You've made it extremely obvious in the way you post you have very little to no knowledge of the franchise before
If believing that makes you feel better, then by all means, continue to.
No, I didn't admit to not playing Musou before. You're just assuming so with baseless conjecture because you can't stand the fact that I'm not acting like the game is god.
>Not him but man, I wish.
It was fucking huge in japan, you fucking idiot.
Itoi is a celebrity over there. It was huge when he made the RPG series.
America isn't the rest of the world.
>Zelda fans whining their obscure choice of character didn't get into this first installment of the series
>Meanwhile still waiting for Cheng Pu in DW proper
>Why don't you think up some actual criticism
So you can ignore it like every other criticism in the thread?
Nah. You can just stay here and bitch about how people don't think the game is perfect like the fanboy you are.
Boo hoo, I'm so sorry literally nothing will be good enough until literally every single character and all your awful waifus get in.
It'll probably be fiver more years.
And with that, I'm off to enjoy video games, unlike you, who will sit here and stew on the internet and whine that HW has offended you.
>I'm off to enjoy video games, unlike you, who will sit here and stew on the internet and whine that HW has offended you.
You mean you're going to stay here and whine that not everyone thinks HW is perfect.
See you in a few minutes.
>I didn't admit to not playing Musou before.
You said you never played HW before, asswipe.
> You're just assuming so with baseless
So you complain about Things that have basically been in the series from the start, making it obvious you never played a game before, and continually deny it.
>is it possible that konami has a monopoly on musou games and everyone else is afraid to try?
Musou games are cheap for them to make, with a fan base that is ridiculously loyal and buys all of them. They focus on rehashing the same game with different fan service each time.
They could potentially add stuff to the gameplay like online vs or more mechanics but there's little point, it prints them money either way.
Musou games will never improve until their sales decline and even if they did, they'd just become even Whittier from trying even harder
No. So I can call you out for bullshitting.
It's probably "WAAH SARIA GOT CUT FOR LANA!" or "NO CONTENT!!!" when you actually mean characters.
At best you'll shitpost something about online and say something about "never buying it" because you're a spiteful faggot.
>So you complain about Things that have basically been in the series from the start, making it obvious you never played a game before, and continually deny it.
Oh, I see, you're one of those people who thinks that it's not okay to want a series to make improvements instead of going back to square one with every game that's actually new.
I'm sorry, if I had known that I wouldn't have bothered you.
MH isn't slow and it isn't too hard. As you can see, all you're doing is projecting your image of me being a bad person because I don't agree that the game is perfect. I think you need to grow up.
NO IT'S NOT YOU'RE JUST A ZELDA BABY DON'T INSULT MUH PRECIOUS GAME AND THE FIRST ITERATION SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE LESS CONTENT SO THAT IT CAN BE IN A SEQUEL
FUCK YOU YOU GOD DAMN PIECE OF SHIT ASSHOLE I HOPE YOU DIE
>And an entire game mode devoted to the original.
Which is nothing but menus that lead to the same gameplay and characters from the maingame.
>all the design nods
>loads of other things that you actively ignore
I'm not actively ignoring anything. I actively SEARCHED for representation and it came up short
>Which were all really big and about on par with everything else.
And Hyrule warriors is likie ignoring all those games. Thanks for making my point by explaining how valid each of those game's inclusion was.
>I'm going to stop replying if you don't stop passing off everything off as "NOT GOOD ENOUGH!"
It's not good enough. "Good enough" would be a game mostly focused on those three shitty games but with a couple neat unlockable guys from some of the handheld or 2D games. Or maybe with some bonus levels like a special alttp world where you cross into the dark world and fight the level again but harder.
Anything is better than those TINY little nods. I mean seriously. The only handheld acknowledgement is that they had a mario reference once? Majora's mask gets one attack? THEY USED THE ORIGINAL GOHMA? WOW. AMAZING. SUCH THOROUGH ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE WIDE AND STORIED FRANCHISE
>Those titles look far more better than today's moeshit
Yeah, keep telling yourself that narutard.
ALBW/OoS+OoA/ALttP/Minish Cap beats out OoT/MM/WW/Skyward sword.
>mfw realizing lots of people won't even be able to understand some of those abbreviations and even less will have played them all.
I'm unhappy that three characters with pre-made movesets aren't playable. The framerate is also pretty fucking pathetic, though I hadn't mentioned that before. Only people like you would get angry at the concept of a game giving the player everything it has to offer. Only people like you would have to actually go online and be a cunt to everyone else because they think there's room for improvement in a game. Because for you, no one is allowed to voice any sort of dissent for something you like at all. And then you do this, you spend all this time just getting mad.
You are a fucking baby, and you know what, I guess it really is a good thing that they don't have online. Especially if they integrated a voice feature. I'd hate to have to listen to you literally crying over the microphone because there are other people playing the same game as you.
>Which is nothing but menus
"IT'S NOT A CHARACTER REP! IT DOESN'T COUNT!"
Cia and Lana are designed similarly to Oracle characters.
Link has a scarf like in the prequel manga.
>I'm not actively ignoring anything.
It's actually worse, you're acknowledgin them but you're saying they don't count.
>And Hyrule warriors is likie ignoring all those games
>It's not good enough.
"IT'S NOT A CHARACTER REP! IT DOESN'T COUNT!"
>I'm unhappy that three characters with pre-made movesets aren't playable
Happens loads of times. They weren't that inteseting looking. And they were OC Donut steel you would have just been whining about their inclusion instead of whining about them not being included like you are now.
DW5 (and maybe 3 and 4) had intercepting counter stances
DW6 had rolling and a block/deflect system
Strikeforce had flying, dashing, and you could pull off some nice combos (for a DW game)
And no, other companies have tried making one or something similar. There's Capcom's Sengoku Basara. Another game called Kingdom for the PSP. Then there's Kamen Rider Battride Wars, Saint Seiya and Bleach Resurrection (or something like that).
>"IT'S NOT A CHARACTER REP! IT DOESN'T COUNT!"
It's a low budget implentation of a cheap tileset. Easier than making original assets.
>Cia and Lana are designed similarly to Oracle characters.
So the game is good for inserting original characters instead of adding old characters that already exist? Can you read what you're saying?
>Link has a scarf like in the prequel manga.
Which is irrelevant as hell? That's not acknowledgment of the games they're pretending never happened
> you're saying they don't count.
I'm saying they're HUGELY insufficient.
Yes it is. They're focusing on the most popular and profitable entries. Just like how Smash with only Mario/Zelda/Pokemon/Kirby would be only focusing on the most popular and successful Nintendo games.
>IT'S NOT A CHARACTER REP! IT DOESN'T COUNT!"
I'm done with you. You're stupid or trolling.
>Happens loads of times
Oh, I see, so because it's happened before, I'm not allowed to think that it shouldn't have.
I'm not allowed to think that Cheetahmen 2 was shit because the original game was shit.
>They weren't that inteseting looking
Well I can't really get angry at you for your taste because I'm not an autistic piece of shit and that's your problem but I think you need to learn to chill out when other people have different opinions.
How did you get under the delusion that menus are content meaningful enough for anyone to care about? I need to know.
Yes., you are not allowed because A:) you would have complained anyways B:) who gives a shit about another skimpy girl and C:) We already got tons of content for a first time musou game.
Literally the only reason to be upset is either because shitposting or you're an entitled fag.
>Nods aren't nods unless they're full character reps!
Again, stop shitposting and say what you mean.
You're just mad YOUR favorite zelda title doesn't have a playable character.
You sound like those Zelda fags who hate every game on release because it isn't a rehash of their favorite Zelda.
Zelda fans in general are unpleasable cunts. You're only proving it.
>you would have complained anyways
Okay, so if I like a character and it gets in a game, I will complain that they're in the game.
You know what, this is actually pretty intersting, let's keep going and see how deep your logic goes into the world of absolutely nonsensical bullshit assumptions and projection. At first you were just an annoying faggot but now you're a hilarious faggot.
>it happened before so it's okay that it happened again
>shit reboots happened before so it's okay that it happened again
>Sonic games were broken before so it's okay that Sonic 06 did it
>Dragon Age 2 happened before so it's okay for Dragon Age 3 to also be shit
>DMC2 happened before so it's okay for DmC to happen
>I killed someone before so it's okay for me to kill another human being
Whelp, based on today and last night, I've decided that musou fans are the most retarded fanbase I've ever encountered in my life. Still not the worst, but I'd hate to meet them in real life, lest I catch their stupid.
>You're just mad YOUR favorite zelda title doesn't have a playable character.
But that's wrong. I'm mad they're ignoring everything in general and focusing on the "mainstream hits"
Like seriously. Where's the bosses from Majora's mask? Where's the fun bonus level that takes place in Subrosia with lava and odd plants everywhere? Where's the Skull Hammer as a weapon? Why not have Witch Maple show up as an NPC or in a cutscene? Is there a reason we can't have Beedle presiding over a menu? Would a fucking unlockable "Link with Ezlo" costume be a hard thing to make?
For what? having weak graphics and some silly game modes and costumes? It's not DT's fault most shooters with asian design sensibilites are shitty cash ins. Don't forget Itagaki is making it.
Or because it's not as good a game as it could have been?
My favourite Zelda title is OoT, but I still love a lot of the series. You're presuming a lot of shit.
It's disappointing that it didn't get as much meaningful content (characters, weapons, cameos, gameplay elements) as it could have, or should have, and that's why I don't like the game. That is my problem with the game and I'm waiting on either a sequel or at the very least some DLC to fix it. Call me entitled all you want but that won't change my stance.
Especially not when you pull bullshit like that, goddamn
>But that's wrong.
No, it's pretty accurate. It's literally the only reason to be upset.
Loads of zelda characters got in. And loads of nods to other games in the series as well as the series as a whole.
>Loads of zelda characters got in
From a very shitty and specific set of games.
>loads of nods to other games
Less than 10. Mostly very very small.
It's a shitty crossover/fanservice game. What a joke.
>try going into a HW thread last night
>just a bunch of drones shitposting
>gee maybe it'll get better at another point in the day
>try going into a HW thread today
>just a bunch of drones shitposting
Please learn to count before posting on /v/
Even if it was, still doesn't retract from the point I'm making. You're retarded.
That speaks badly about musou games more than it speaks good about HW. Why is it acceptable for the game to not be as good as it could?
>Keep up that shitposting though.
Rich, coming from you
I'd be more mad of her taking yet another characters moveset if it didn't look extremely clunky and only worth trying it out once.
You won't see anyone getting S-ranks with that shit.
Heart and Outlaw in Ken's Rage.
Now, they don't do DLC characters often, but yes, they most certainly have done DLC characters before, so it is possible, while improbably, that the three villains will be sold as DLC.
>Heart and Outlaw in Ken's Rage.
Oh boy, two characters in a single musou game years ago.
Still doesn't change the fact that 90% of their games feature no character DLC.
>That speaks badly about musou games more than it speaks good about HW.
Not really, no. HW has loads of content and replayability.
It's perfectly fine as is.
Toriyama actually wrote God better than Lana. At least god wasn't good in the way that he was obnoxious about it, he got mad, was rash when it came to killing new Piccolo etc.
>Where, in the land of fucking sunshine and farts?
>Still doesn't change the fact that 90% of their games feature no character DLC.
Yes, but it does go against your previous claim that KT doesn't do character DLC. Try not to get angry about it.
Pretty sure one of the Gundam ones did it as well.
Keep strawmanning, nigger.
For a game about fanservice and being a celebration of all things Zelda, I don't feel there was anywhere near enough fanservice. I'll wait for sequel/DLC to address this before I buy.
I'm not gonna waste my time on a game that could have been chock full of content when I could just play a game that already is.
>The point that there's no excuse for not putting the full effort into a game.
They put tons of effort into it. It's one of the best looking musou games to date with lots of unque content. It's treated better than most of their other first time franchises.
You're just upset you're favorite shit character wasn't in.
>They put tons of effort into it. It's one of the best looking musou games to date with lots of unque content. It's treated better than most of their other first time franchises.
Too bad I only cared about the Zelda bits, which got phoned in.
>I don't like it so it sucks
Welp, I'm out.
It was an awful thread guys. Thanks for reminding me I hate /v/
The funny thing is, all the characters I wanted were in - Zant and Darunia - so you have no argument.
They could have put the amount of effort into it that they do the main series or the sequels to spinoff games, but they didn't, and any fan of musou knows this good and well whether they try to deny it or not.
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. Please don't hold it against me.
>Too bad I only cared about the Zelda bits
>which got phoned in.
Nope, it was pretty good fanservice. They focused on a lot of the franchise as a whole and set it up nicely for future games to add more to the series.
Keep being a whiney little bitch though while I enjoy the new musou
>TK doesn't do DLC characters.
>Still doesn't change the fact that 90% of their games feature no character DLC.
Wow, move those goalposts harder.
So you're telling me Crossbone X1, FA Unicorn, GP03, Wing Zero Custom, and 00 Qan[T] aren't DLC characters?
Funnily enough, out of all the characters I wanted in only Darunia and Ganondorf were in. And ganondorf was ashooein.
Yet, somehow you're the one who is complaining like a child about it.
>They could have put the amount of effort into it that
They put loads of effort into it and it shows.
>They focused on a lot of the franchise
Half of the smallest part of the franchise.
> set it up nicely for future games to add more to the series.
Not gonna happen. Call me when nintendo starts giving sequels out in a timely and deserving manner.
>Keep being a whiney little bitch though while I enjoy the new musou
Go ahead. Not my problem. I enjoy feeling smarter than blithering shits like you
I like how you didn't finish reading the sentence because you can't refute the point. I guess that's where the argument ends. Thanks for making this an easy win for me.
Have fun waiting for the sequel.
The effort put into the movesets shows.
They also put more than necessary effort into their original characters, 2 of which were discarded in between story missions and 1 they killed off to make the last oc look better.
I think the think I hate most about Lana is that she actually ISN'T a generic moeblob. She's specifically a Hatsune Miku blob.
I feel like they gave her a techno-blue Summoning Gate purely to make more of a connection to Hatsune Miku.
>Half of the smallest part of the franchise.
Nope, the whole franchise got nods. 1/3rd got character reps, which is pretty bitchin.
>Not gonna happen.
Just like All those nods to 2D and handheld games didn't happen, because you're a cunt.
>Continues to insult and demean
IT's like you're not even trying.
So, from what I've gathered from these various statements, this game is a musou games for musou fans that, despite having a Zelda skin, won't really appeal much to Zelda fans.
It seems like the group this game is appealing to (People who happen to be fans of both Zelda and musou games) is probably incredibly goddamn sparse over here in the west.
I don't need to refute it because you're making HUUUUUUUGE broad and generalized statements.
I could literally just ask for a source and your whole card tower you call an "argument" will fall apart.