Acouple of days ago, one of Norway's most read newspapers named "Aftenposten" release a series of articles related to gaming and the addiction.
The treatment of how gaming is seen in the country is compared to shit like alcohol and drugs, Main problems are that the local media here tend to be onesided with technophobic/neophobic press tactics to scare grown ups to believe you'll be raising addicts and by using one professor as a source is enough to cover this problem and twist his words in favor for clickbating.
How is gaming being shamed in your contry?
Considering there's a direct link between gaming and misogyny I think it's reasonable that, until we know what causes it, we treat it like an addictive drug or problem.
Ultimately, gaming is harmful to oneself and others, whereas movies, tv and books are not.
When we better understand WHY games make people act so radically, then we can attempt cure it, and then it won't be an issue.
>gaming being shamed
>implying this is bad
The faster the game industry leaves mainstream media, the faster it will recover from this shitty state of rehashes, unfinished releases (DLC), shovelware, etc..
I don't read anything but NRK and VG anymore
Sure they're biased and shitty, like all newspapers, but at least they're not Dagbladet "Second hand smoking has no detrimental effects" bad, or aftenpoften
Gaming is mostly shamed because it's a new media format that takes readership/viewers away from more traditional media. It happened with movies and with comics. Comics were the devil and encouraged evil thoughts and violence in youth - who are already demonised because they're young and scary and shake their hips to to the scary rock music.
It almost shifted to the internet a while ago, but because too many people use it and it's useful, they couldn't scrutinise it too harshly. So it went back to video games because they're an easy target.
Dagbladet always feature a health issue or something related to sickness and plagues weekly on the front page.
At least VG keeps some form of integrity, but they ain't far behind. The worst thing outta that place gotta be Level Up on their netsite.
>anything with a video
I can get how they keep putting the facebook-tier videos up, since I can see those getting views, but there can't seriously be enough of an audience watching that Level Up shit
Of course they are technophobic as fuck and want people to stop play violent games...
Think about it, they want people to get back to pillaging England and ruining everyone's shit with their viking weapons.
None of you have seen Aftonbladet in Sweden, sometimes they write informative articles about games and gaming bust most of the time it's pure trash. They gave Infamous: Second Son a 1/5 because apparently it's sexist.
It's cause up until Video Games, hobbies that were equally as engaging and potentially competitive required intense physical activity.
Adults were too old and fragile to do them, so adults are "supposed" to have boring, depressing hobbies.
If it takes all your attention and is engaging it's for "kids."
If an adult does something "for kids" there's something wrong with them.
That's basically it. Old people projecting, wishing everyone was as miserable as them.
so is /v/ just all tumblr now?
ive been seeing some weird posts in /vg/ too, what the hells going on
>gaming leads to social problems
>importing boatloads of third-worlders who turn your nice, safe communites into rape infested shitholes, while criminalizing any objections does not
The amount of click bait articles in serious newspapers are getting to American-like breaking points for me now.
Every day there's a feminist article shitting on Radioresepsjonen and quoting statistics about '1 in 10 women are raped in Norway'
(which is wrong if you read the actual statistics)
It's just clickbait anon.
My old teacher used to say; "Read VG and I'll give you a 3, read DB and I'll give you a 4, read AP and I'll give you a 5, but if you real National Geographic I'll give you a 6" Now he would have given everyone who read those papers(save for NG) a 2.
When hits and admoney is more important than real investigative journalism, we're in deep shit.
its reaching the point where we might not be able to contain it
i think things like this have happened before and that usually the invading party gets bored or simply dilutes into actual 4chan culture
well be fine
Try to stay positive anon.
Vivian just means something new to fap to.
I see what went wrong here. Norway is probably one of the worst countries when it comes to journalism. None of the newspapers here can write about stuff in a manner people need to read, but how people want to read it.
Norway's biggest newspaper VG, is a fucking joke. A gossip magazine at it's best. Real news are just too terrible for us to read, we are fucking spoiled, and naive. To the point that it's actually depressing to live in this country.
That proven by the large amount of daily agendas there's about rape and violence on the feed over the course of the past weeks. It's slightly adoping into fucking paranoia stigma spread out through the fourth estate.
Your country is so fucked, man.
Some shithead gave an Outcast concert a 1/10 because they had skimpy clothed dancers, while here they got 8/10 for the exact same set.
No wonder most white Swedes are fleeing the country and coming over here.
The whole Knulledokke shit has been going for what feels like at least a full week, and I haven't read a single one of the articles
Like, could we care less about this shit and care more about actual things that matter in the real world, journalists of Norway?
Please stop this
A-at least we have NRK, r-right?
Jokes on you faggot I found it from an imgur album link of pepe pictures on /r9k/
I think it would be equally reasonable to validate the connection between studies of video game-violence links and the financial needs of the scientists who orchestrate the studies which claim to prove said links.
It's the eggheads' equivalent of clickbait- the more controversial and attention-grabbing the findings are, the more grant money they get for "future experiments". It's a disgrace to their field.
Nice one. We've had the best summer in 60 years this year. 30+ degrees celcius since May. It's 18 right now outside in late August.
The outside view of how cold it is here is ridiculous. Winters don't even get that cold either. You've got colder weather in NYC during winter than most places in this country.
>Mitt ansikt når fotball-VM tar opp tre skjermer
It's all just bullshit statistics. You can manipulate statistics into anything you want. Anyone who's had one marketing class can tell you that.
You ALWAYS need to look at the questions and the people they asked.
>mfw i see a hundred times more hijabs in norway than Bosnia
GOD IS GREAT
KNULLEDUKKE, KNULLEDUKKE, KNULLEDUKKE.
I fucking love Radioresepsjonen. They don't give a flying fuck.
They're given free reign now that they're on DAB+.
I've missed them so much
I don't watch TV or listen to the radio except when I'm taking a shit, so I seriously don't even know what they are
I've just assumed they're like Trygdekontoret, that show with the 2 guys talking about 'guy stuff' on the radio, or something like that
Considering the amount of white flight from Sweden you guys are getting it's only going to get worse. You can't take the faggot out of a swede, even if they themselves couldn't stand their own shitty "I wanna be 1960's america" politics.
>NRK and Morgenbladet is the only ones worth reading
Yea, if you can't read English, that's your best option. But anyone who dares look further then our own fucking pathetic scandals knows that they'r shit as well.
Take for instance the dog that recently got shot by a farmer because it was trespassing and the farmer had problems earlier with dogs and wolfs killing his sheep.
The dog owner gets fucking coverage for 2 weeks, and dozens of stupid Norfags gather too pay their respect for a fucking dog. What about the sheeps who was killed? What about real fucking problems? Oh, never mind the hundreds of children and civilians being killed, corruption, Ebola etc. That's not our problem, let's get depressed because a fucking dog died. Norway.
>i thought /v/ was invaded by tumblr
>it was worse
>/v/ was invaded by nords
We never stood a chance. Fucking vikings
When have video games ever been accepted by the mainstream? If they're not blamed for causing violence they're blamed for something else. The moment we think people are starting think video games are harmless BOOM! Video games are now the source of some other evil. As long as people spread falsehoods about video games, video games will never be accepted by the mainstream
>Jente og aktiv i esport-miljoet?
>Ta kontakt her!
Dette er en artikkel på VG AKKURAT NÅ
Just download the podcast and listen to it while you're walking outside.
It's probably the only radioshow worth a damn in the entire country.
Fuck the music they put on. That's just filler and gets cut out.
One og the guys didn't have a job until the other guy who went with the idea up to the staff. I think it tells the viewers something when a dropout get's a spot on a show with contacts within the industry, talking random topics.
>You can't take the faggot out of a swede
But anon, this process has already started. The only fagloving homolords left in Sweden are the old people. The newer generations are realizing the problems.
In the UK if some murder is related to vidya in the most meaningless and strawman manner then they'll take it and push it but it blows over in a few days and nothing really happens.
The last time anything ever happened to vidya here was when Manhunt was released, country went nuts over that shit after the news showed a bag on head suffocation execution.
Even most game stores lets underaged kids by 18+ games
It get's worse when local papers and press release boring shit on a daily basis and when something do happend like this case case with the dog pops up, every norfag jumps up from their couches and spilling saucers with coffee, going on Facebook to protest such actions.
All the gaming going on around here are people playing CoD, FIFA and GTA, the "mainsteram media" never cared about gaming and only once in a while, some company markets hard enough to get a game ad on TV, Halo 4 being the last one I can remember.
Gaming is largely ignored around these parts and accepted as "something kids do to waste time", which might be the ony thing going fairly well in this shithole of a country.
I saw a news report here in sweden that basically said "being addicted to gambling or games is pretty much the same thing."
I'm serious, it had some therapists and two pussy wipped patients of his saying how horrible both are. I won't deny gaming addiction exists, but saying it's the same thing as gambling is fucking pants on head retaded.
>Some counting feminist talking about actual gender balancing in rock music.
Do these people even know how bands work? You can't quota music like that.
At least that cunt got blown the fuck out by a real female rock artist the day after.
We'll have a problem when these opinion pieces aren't contested. Then we'll really have something to worry about.
O-Of course it's the same
Don't you remember all those times someone took out a loan just to play some more WoW and then when he died his kids were stuck in bottomless debt?
It happens all the time!
>Acouple of days ago, one of Norway's most read newspapers named "Aftenposten" release a series of articles related to gaming and the addiction.
they are right.
Free to Play is a digusting method of financing games, given that it depends on fleecing vulnerable (ofen older people) out of their cash by method of addiction.
>if you can't read English
Wtf are you talking about, nobody said you can't find good foreign media sources, but we're talking about Norway here.
I agree, the dog thing was dumb, but you're talking as if one thing excludes the other. The media can cover many things simultaniosly, if it doesn't interest you, don't click on it.
tl;dr You're a dumbfuck
Even as a child I knew programmers like GamesMaster and Bad Influence were complete paid off bullshit, just like all the magazines. It annoys me when I see youthful poseurs post about how gaming journalism used to have integrity. You weren't even alive you little shits.
Yep, not only is Norwegian tabloid and media fucked, but the Norfags are too. Social media here is, not stupid stupid, but god, no one should care about this! Why!? Why in the actual fuck do you dedicate your fucking time of day to this shit!? Stop, please, your hurting sane people..
Its not that bad in America though
I mean sure sometimes fundies gotta preach and shit
But at the end of the day theyll take my vidya from my cold dead hands
When people start suggesting censorship laws or mandated rehab or shit like that, then you can get up in arms.
Until then shut the fuck up and let the idiots whine about new entertainment that they don't understand. This has happened with literally every new form of entertainment to ever be created.
Old people hate new things. Get used to it.
And while we're at it, shut up about new-wave feminism, they're completely impotent. No, they aren't making your games worse. Bioware is shit because they lost all their talent and hired kids fresh out of college at shit wages.
Every goddamn day some chicken little on this board is saying how the sky's gonna fall next.
I overheard some cunts talking about "Oh video games are so sexist and violent" at work today.
It really grinded my gears when all of them proceeded to play that Kim Kardashian game the following lunchbreak. Hypocrites all of you!
The worst part about it all is how helpless you feel
Because the clickers decide what articles are made, and you're only one clicker, you're completely powerless to change the horrible situation
It's depressing, man
I actually embrace the video games stigma here in Burgerland.
Game devs/publishers need to work harder to earn a buck, there's less pre/teenagers in multiplayer games because of overprotective parents, and the whole US GAMERS HUH fad would be a lot worse if this stigma didn't exist.
And how the fuck did I imply you couldn't fin good foreign media sources? I specifically said that NRK is a good option, if you can't read English.
NRK is a good option, if Norwegian is the only language you know.
And I implied that the dog thing got more coverage than actual important things, which I think is right to imply.
>tl;dr You're a dumbfuck
If my parents gave any shit they would never let me play as much computer as I did growing up.
My back is like I'm 50 years old. I have no social skills, I had no drive for school because I was getting enough satisfaction in gaming (even though I'm in college and doing well with adjustmenents)
>You aren't allowed to have an opinion
No, see I'm not saying you aren't allowed to have an opinion. I'm saying that all you're doing is whining over shit that doesn't matter at all or effect you in any way.
If that's what you want to do with your life, bitch and moan away. I just think you should shut the fuck up and go play videogames instead of bitching about things that, again, do not effect you in any way.
You should just take all your biggest "Muh 1960's murrica" fags and tell them to immigrate to Vermont, where they can learn of much better homogenous socialism works (look up 1930's vermont, it was literally a eugenics experiment).
>Censoring without laws for censoring counts I wager
No, self-censorship does not count, dickcheese. There's a massive fucking difference between self-censorship and mandated censorship. Further, the idea that gaming companies are self-censoring at this point is asinine.
Am I not allowed to have my opinion that you should shut the fuck up? How tumblr of you.
>self-censorship does not count
>Gang of multiculti flowerpower feminist faggots come shriek until I cease to talk and complain to every possible complainable organism, but it is self-censorship
Yeah, I think it's time to seriously wound people.
your opinion is shit though and not invested in Loyalty, Respect, and Hustle
But youre allowed to have it im not a mod
Considering there's a direct link between being feminist and unemployed I think it's reasonable that, until we know what causes it, we treat women studies like an illness or problem.
Ultimately, women studies are harmful to oneself and others whereas STEM, literature or trade schools are not.
When we better understand WHY feminism make people act so radically, then we can attempt to cure it, and then it won't be an issue.
I don't carve wood, anon.
Raiding was greatly exaggerated by historians. Most plundering was done by desperation and exploring. The show Vikings
Not really filmed in Norway unfortunatelydoes a good job portraying this.
Vikings were mostly traders.
The horns are also a myth to make them seem more like devils. Hell most of them didn't wear headgear because it was too expensive.
just like people are whining about how bad video games are are harmless, the people on this board are just as harmless about their complaints.
Except that they shit up this board with their paranoid delusions and make it impossible to talk about video games.
Which is sad because this site, as shitty as it is, is the best place to hear actual unbias opinions on games, even though you have to sift through a lot of shit and fanboyism. Every other site is completely saturated with fanboyism and agendas that rival politicians.
So just call these people babies. insult them. point out how stupid and useless they are to whatever dumb cause they are fighting for. or ignore them.
You really should've read what you wrote before posting, because that sentence is retarded.
I'm just going to assume you're saying that feminists have had an appreciable impact on gaming (not the retarded gaming "press," the games itself)
To that notion I simply have to laugh. You're completely deluded, and need to spend less time in the 4chan echo chamber.
>loyalty respect and hustle
You're filthy dumb nigger scum who can't even understand the difference between attention whoring drama/clickbait and actual real issues that may effect gaming/you. Muh'fuggen Bix Nood.
>I'm just going to assume you're saying that feminists have had an appreciable impact
Yes, they have, you turn your back a minute and they instaurate laws here and there, so I'll keep my watch.
I'll assume I have to do the oppossite of what you suggest
>Yes, they have, you turn your back a minute and they instaurate laws here and there, so I'll keep my watch.
You sound like the inevitably mentally-handicapped guy in a group of skinheads
"those jews instaturate lawses in their world banks!"
I never said a thing about jews, as a matter of fact, I believe for a fact that I have jewish genes, are you betraying yourself, though?
In any case we will do our best so your filth doesn't go unprotested and we will rage hard and behave like our life depended on it :)
Here in Finland every time if some criminal has every played a vidya in his life, they'll underline that fact massively.
Basically if you go shoot someone and you played super mario as a kid 20y ago, they'll go: "The perpetrator was known to play video games a lot. This makes one wonder if he was still in touch with reality and how did they video games affect his decision making."
Then you get all the soccer moms and shitty politicians fishing for extra votes for weeks. "We condemn this kind of action and we will gather a group of experts to study the risks of playing video games and how they affect our youth."
So yeah, Finland is gone already.
They made a shitty parody show about how this kid is an MMO addict who get bad grades then he got invited to offline meeting where everyone is a neckbeard/old farts with funny names and then his mom caught him redhanded.
That's literally the entire joke, the rest is just people shouting buzzwords and pretending to play video game. There was a point where his character died and he proceeded to yell "I WON THE FINAL BOSS" in a fucking MMO and the cam repeats 3 times with different angle every time they make a joke.
It's election year here in the Brazilian Jungle, so we don't talk abou games or the "gamergate"
altough press here is a piece of shit, it hasn't fallen to SJW and stuff like that. it's below even them.
but a while ago, there was this crime where an entire family was found dead. The mother and father were special ops police officers. both were executed along with the grandmother and an aunt. their 7-yo son was pointed as the culprit. because he played Assassin's Creed 3.
i mean, it was a shitty game, but no excuse to kill your parents for it.
Yes but I thought jews were the reason for that, so how did they initially get in? From their last names I figure they are Khazars from Russia, Though then again I'm not familiar with non-germany based jew names.
I saw a site by an Asatru guy who claims he's rediscovered the true meditative route to berserking without any drugs involved at all. Interesting reading.
>Feminist protest because of muh feelings
Show me a single organized protest that was done over words and feelings and not a law or action, and I'll show you a group of retards who don't know what protesting is.
SJWs want to erase the "gamer" identity because its "inherently misogynistic and toxic". They're probably going to come up with something stupid like "Gamer-" like they did with Atheism+
That's so fucking retarded. Simply not believing in a higher power is the only right way to describe atheism.
If they wanted extra crap, why not just incorporate it in Humanism instead?
Organised atheism is such an American thing.
>Every one of them.
Every protest ever has been over words and feelings?
This. So much, remember when every article was like "10 foods that might give you cancer" "if you have a history of being fatfucks you ded" "studies shows more people have cancer today than in 1965!"
Atheism+ was created because American 4th wave feminists associated the puritan faiths with the conservative elements that reinforced their mythical "patriarchy".
It's essentially just your typical neckbearded SJW shit but under the guise as an organized atheism group.
No, see, you can't just use a pronoun out of nowhere, you have to establish the noun first.
If I were to respond by saying just "His protest was justified" you'd have no idea who the fuck I was talking about, eh?
Anyway, let's take a step back because you seem too retarded to understand me:
- Protesting is a means to achieve a goal, usually the creation and passing or the removal of a bill.
- Protesting fat women whining on tumblr is about as retarded as you can get
- You have asserted that feminists have (successfully) protested against...video games? It's unclear...yet can't come up with any examples
You could've kept it going a lot longer
3/10 work harder
It only became a "Thing" here because once and awhile a state law is passed for religious reasons. There are religious based lobbying and such that goes on in the US.
A good example is that in Virginian(and possibly other states) have a moment of silence period in all public schools.
While the reason is never stated it anywhere the purpose for it is for prayer.
So some atheists essentially feel the need to organize and become an entity that could lobby against certain things religious backed laws.
But then feminists infiltrated it.
italy here, same problem. and norway is years ahead of us, so just guess how we are
the best was my mom one time:
>more than 1h a day of vidya can cause epilepsy attacks, one doctor on the tv said it
I just laughed in her face, there's no use in trying to convince them
>read Der Standard
>newspaper that claims to be "quality media"
>over the course of the last week two entries from their gaming blog on front page
>first about Anita Sarkeesan being driven out of her home (without mentioning any of the suspicion going on regarding the strange message times on twitter)
>second (just popped up today) literally has the title "You Sexists and Haters are poor sports!" and is basically trying to strike a blow for Sarkeesan by ignoring every justified criticism or calling it "forgetable that she's putting out one extreme and biased video after the other because the "essence" is oh-so-true"
I don't even know why I'm still reading this leftist piece of shit.
In the short time of less than six months this poor toilet paper substitude induced so much rage, the sweat from my forehead could water a field in the southern steppes of egypt.
And then these people truly wonder why the right wingers are gaining support in this country.
>being relevant at all since the defeat of Harald Hardrada
I don't think so, Anon.
>This has been a issue since fuckin' 2008.
More like since the 80s when media did all kinds of scare tactic stories about the evils of arcades.
What I ment by writing this was that the connection with addiction and gaming was at it's highest during 2008 in Norway. The problem you're mentioning I've known being around for decades.
Here in Spain things seem pretty neutral. I remember some guy trying to set a bomb in an UNI and they only mentioned videogames when they interviewed her mother, saying he liked the escapism videogames provide.
Granted, I don't give a shit about my country and barely follow any of our media, but I haven't noticed anything too grave yet.
Have to say though, Spaniards are one of the most cancerogenous gaymurs out there, it's crazy. You haven't seen dudebros until you've taken a walk in one of our GAMEs or see our most famous Youtube personalities, fuck they even got interviewed on TV not too long ago, I wanted to rip my fucking head from embarrasment.