What are some RPGs that don't take place in either a generic fantasy world (e.g. Dragon Age, The Witcher, Dragon Quest) or a contemporary setting (e.g. Persona, Pokemon, Shin Megami Tensei)?
The Fallout Series
Mass Effect (You can skip 3 and not feel bad)
The Elder Scrolls 3+ (Arena and Daggerfall are very generic, the lore wasn't there yet. Oblivion is generic on the surface but has some neat shit)
I don't know how I forgot that, honestly.
I didn't put it that way because there are settings other than that which also aren't generic fantasy, sci fi, or contemporary. What about RPGs set in a historical setting?
>it's probably the most original setting in history
Are you fucking serious? Stop acting like it's a masterpiece. The game has many flaws that many refuse to acknowledge because of "muh lore". Fuck yourself.
people can't actually believe this.
The sword n' sorcery ass fantasy setting? The prominence of dragons as the most powerful beings ever? The abyss?
The fact that Soul spear/arrow/mass is literally magic missile renamed?
It explains it's shit in a different way, like every fucking story ever. But it doesn't offer anything truly unique other than "Yo, humans are the pygmys, the giants are all reagular size."
fair enough. To answer your question then, Shadow Hearts series, Xeno series.
Shadow Hearts is an AMAZING turn based RPG series for PS2 that takes place in a bizarro world during WW2 where there are demons and magic and typical animu BS but its fucking great, dem fusions.
Xeno series is, well, if you haven't played or heard about xenogears/saga/blade by now, what rock are you living under. Hopefully it's bismuth.
That's not the Elder Scrolls.
Actually it would depend on what you mean by original. Is it a unique whole vs a setting made of parts with no origin? TES draws on a LOT of things but it's sum is inimitable.
>The prominence of dragons as the most powerful beings ever
Did you even watched the intro cinematique ? Dragons (as, their entire race) got their shit wrecked by like 4 dudes.
>calling me a fag
>Medieval European setting
>You are the chosen one
The series is great and has nice designs, but are you fucking stupid?
Hell, a reason Dark was inferior to Demon's was because they did away with the unique shit like Flying Mantas, Mecha Skeletons, giant waterbears and Man-faced centipedes and went with bland as fuck skeletons, demons, and hollows.
>because as far as I know dark souls is older than berserk
Boy, I sure do love trolls!
I don't care if you're baiting or not
>just because it came out before doesn't mean it's older
If you want try the Xenosaga series. Its pretty sci-fi with an interesting story. First two games are a bit dry though, with the third being the best.
problem with a lot of JRPG settings is that they contain absolutely no internal consistency and thus cannot truly be called a setting
I wish japanese devs spend longer actually developing their worlds/universes rather than just visually designing them
>the few flaws DaS and DaS2 have are gameplay/graphics related.
First, don't even mention DaS2. It's not a souls game, it's a steaming pile of sick dog shit covered in flies. Second, there aren't just a few flaws. There are many fucking flaws such as the extremely exploitable bosses and their horrid gameplay designs, copypasted bosses and enemies everywhere, the pathetic excuse for demon ruins and lost izalith along with a few other areas such as new londo and crystal caves. Lag, horrible netcode, unbalanced weapons. There. Shove all of that up your ass and keep it there.
>The lore is masterfully done and makes people like Tolkien look like talentless amateurs
Kill yourself right fucking now.
Breath of Fire
Elder Scrolls (poor but at least interesting)
Not many else
Dark Souls takes place in a proper Tolkien universe. Not what Tolkien has become with just boring generic shit, but the Tolkien that had an undead army and were-bears and shit.
Sadly Fantasy has become one of the most boring genera because for some god awful reason everyone apparently just wants to write boring old man fan-fiction. Even if you do put in something as crazy as a Minotaur that is friendly then you better get ready for the long haul because you're in for at least a few hours of boring political drama to try and distract the normies that there was something non-human that wasn't a slavering monster to kill.
I mean really, if you make a fantasy game and your character creation is 'human, elf or dwarf' why the fuck should I even care? It's like that Gauntlet relaunch coming out without the alt costumes, are they trying to bore me? I was going around as fucking Anubis the the last game and now I have to run around as some pussy wizard?
>Recharger Rifle is way weaker AND has less ammo then the Recharger Pistol
depends on the setting though, a more low fantasy setting can easily have only a few largely humanoid species, but make them actually sufficiently alien from eachother that the setting becomes interesting if only for the "what if" of another sapient species co-exising with humanity
>Oh god I hate anything new, please, please rape my face directly I hate anything interesting or outside of what I have previous knowledge about. I am literally a cranky old man
Culture shock man, fuck yourself.
You need to vibrate higher to troll me.
>don't even mention DaS2. It's not a souls game
you are one of those "le b-team xD" fags?
>there aren't just a few flaws.
there aren't many
>extremely exploitable bosses
no such thing. They all require great skill, fast reactions and some degree of intelligence
>horrid gameplay designs
you mean best gameplay design?
>copypasted bosses and enemies everywhere
they are never done wrong. They always manage to be amazing. Even if they are "copypasted" it doesn't matter because they are amazing boss fights
>the pathetic excuse for demon ruins and lost izalith
just because you were too casual to go through an area doesn't mean From fucked up. You fucked up but you are too immature to blame yourself so you blame others. Either get good or stop playing.
>Lag, horrible netcode, unbalanced weapons.
you died because you didn't know how to play and blame From...
Gold and Salt, the two most valuable commodities of its age
and yeh I know it collapsed but a collapsing empire makes for a good setting and the west african mythology would be quite interesting.
Das has some unique stuff like the mushroom people, those things in the sewers, the fire bug things in Blighttown, snake people, the bird creatures in Painted World, the octopus things, the bushes etc.
Des has a lot of generic stuff like miner humanoids, knights and swamp people
>fantasy has to have over-designed fantastical bullshit to be considered good fantasy
Also I like the obligatory ripping on Martin, proving how much of a non-mainstream special snowflake you are.
fun fact one of the mali emperors was the richest person ever by an incredibly wide margin
he had so much wealth he went around the world handing out his money because he couldn't figure out what to do with it. That's right other people survived of african welfare money
sometimes you don't need a massive amount of detail for a setting to do its job (which is, supporting the game/plot). for example, the setting in the film blade runner is not very heavily developed at all, but everything we need to know about it is conveyed through the visuals, which in turn gives the film a heavy atmosphere and creates context for the story. we don't learn much about the tyrell corporation but one look at their massive pyramid headquarters lets you know they are powerful, arrogant and overbearing - which sets the context for the situation of the replicants.
likewise, for a lot of video games the real goal is building atmosphere and context through visuals rather than exposition, because the player needs to pick these things up while they are playing.
>Oh god I literally can't stand those darn negroes after one of them made of me in the hallways during high school, shit I just hate them so much! NURSE! FETCH ME A SPONGEBATH! I am cranky!
Well, infinite ammo for one is extremely nice since if you make an energy weapons only run you're going to find yourself hurting for ammo every step of the way. Fucking Multiplas, Plasma Defender, and Tribeam Laser Rifle.
Also find that unique Recharger Pistol who's name I forget and you're set for anything that isn't a Deathclaw or a Brotherhood Paladin for the rest of the game, that little shit has enourmous amounts of DPS so practically anything will go down very very fast.
I'm just annoyed a pistol is better in every way compared to a rifle.
I tried playing through Baten Kaitos and I feel like they spent more time making it look weird than actually making it interesting. I stopped right after the fish boss in the river. Does it get better?
however a setting needs to be internally consistent and this is where JRPG's often fail by introducing literally random elements chosen just for a visual style
in Blade Runner a lot of effort was made to make all the visuals in the tale be completely coherent and give off a certain style and feeling.
Third game is the best in my opinion. I really like the characters and the series in general is great, always developing story. It's a shame not many games like it exist anymore.
joke's on you the snake people were originally designed for Demon's Souls. It was also going to have those bear people or something like that. And is a centipede with a human face really that original, it's a centipede with a human face
An rpg set in ancient south america would be dope
There's some biological difference true but it really doesn't come down to anything that would justify that anon's strange phobia. Especially his weird aversion to foreign cultures that would make for GOAT RPG settings. People like him are why we're stuck with "Medieval Yurope 2: Return of the Ancient Evil"
*tips fedora respectfully*
I'd also love a game set in one of the most ancient civilizations like say Assyria (or fantasy equivalent)
so much interesting things to be done with various periods of history and people ignore them because it would be hard
12% of United State's population is black
For some reason, they manage to commit more than 70% of the country's crime
They are naturally aggressive and less intelligent.
Human civilization, no, the race as a whole began in Africa. So of course Africa would be the most advanced place on Earth, right? Wrong, ever since Romans had giant marble columns and huge militaries, the africans have been fucking their sisters in mud huts.
Course there's no difference, you brainwashed cuckolded faggot.
because civilization happens due to excess food which is hard to come by in the vast majority of africa?
why do you think the first civilizations evolved in extremely fertile areas such as the Tigris/Euphrates basin and the Nile shores?
That's exactly what this is about. Do you think a game where every character and your own character had downs syndrome would be fun? See where I'm going with this?
>The Mongolian Empire
Indian mythology happens occasionally but yeh those would be good
an event involving those that would be mighty interesting for a game would be the great migration to Madagascar. It started near Indonesia and the tribes that would settle Madagascar traveled along the entire coast of SE-Asia, India, Middle East and Africa to eventually settle on the island
>Black people constitute the majority of our nation's poor you idiot, of course they turn to crime. It's only natural, if you cannot survive legally you do not accept death you start to take from others.
>They are naturally aggressive and less intelligent.
Show me one credible study that proves that is due to genetics and not sociological factors and I'll believe you. Bear in mind of course that intelligence is largely the sum of education + experience, deprive a person of a good education (poor people in the US do not go to good schools btw) and they will not be allowed to be intelligent. Immerse a person in a culture of violence (poor people always develop this as a tie-in to their reliance on theft) and they will be forced into violence.
>Human civilization, no, the race as a whole began in Africa. So of course Africa would be the most advanced place on Earth, right? Wrong, ever since Romans had giant marble columns and huge militaries, the africans have been fucking their sisters in mud huts.
Africans actually had a few civilizations of note but not very many outside of North Africa because it was not suitable for farming which is the spark of civilization. Also:
>making fun of mud huts
>being this uneducated
You might also know them as adobe. Making a home out of mud is genius when you live in a hot climate, very efficient usage of resources. And the incest line is hilarious, do you know how incestuous western royalty was? Fucking worse than their redneck successors.
And even if all of what you said was true by some accident of god, it STILL wouldn't be a good reason to not have a game in an African inspired setting because it'd would still loads more fresh than generic Yurope bullshit.
>b-b-but you're a cuckold!
>m-m-muh degeneracy! muh racial purity!
Grow up and stop taking /pol/ seriously. It's a containment/shitposting board.
1. The Mali Empire was something that actually existed. You can't dispute this.
2. Even if we assume that you're correct, and that EVERY SINGLE African in existence is a drooling retard, it's fantasy. You are taking creative license with that setting.
Never heard of that before. The Indian Ocean area has always interested me, though. Maybe the game could have mechanics similar to something like Banner Saga.
>Black people constitute the majority of our nation's poor you idiot, of course they turn to crime. It's only natural, if you cannot survive legally you do not accept death you start to take from others.
That's really weird, 4chan sort of fucked up my post royally. Took forever for it be submitted as well. Either way, should still make plenty of sense. And moot get your shit in order.
>>Black people constitute the majority of our nation's poor you idiot, of course they turn to crime. It's only natural, if you cannot survive legally you do not accept death you start to take from others.
Did you know that America has always been an immigrant country? Did you know that plenty of people have come here completely piss poor and have had to endure terrible conditions, even in the 1800s, but managed to get rich by hard work?
Did you also know that blacks, instead of trying to advance their lives or move out of ghettos, decide to deal drugs and shoot each other?
>>making fun of mud huts
>>being this uneducated
My point was their pathetic level of technological advancement. Maybe back when we were just learning about fire and to cover our genitals in cloth adobe would have been impressive, but not when things like aircraft carriers and firearms exist.
OK how about this.
A game where you are a skeleton.
Having to go around convincing other skeletons to join you.
You can do this by going to the graveyard and doing a ritual dance or literally scaring humans out of their bones.
ignore this I think the anchovies were off
alright lets not feed the trolls
wondering anyone know something about west african culture and mythology, maybe some pre-abrahamic religions? The idea of a fantasy setting where only a single large, falling empire exists being slowly reabsorbed by the surrounding tribes is fairly interesting and I wonder how the local culture could be adapted to fantasy settings
DaS2 is shit. It's a fact.
Yes there are. You're just riding the "dark souls is perfect" bandwagon.
Can you explain pinwheel? Gwyndolin?Those were joke bosses. Also many other horrid boss fights such as ceaseless(fighting him isn't even required, just hit his arm 5 times and youre done)moonlight is a spam boss where you are forced to used ranged attacks or haveing to wait until it comes down because lol so hard xD
well it could be a game where you play as a monster and gain fame among other monsters by scaring human NPC's in unique and creative manners with some stealth elements where you set up your scares, find out what the local humans are afraid of etc
various characters you recruit are all sorts of different monsters each with their unique abilities and traits
game is set in various locations around the planet and you get bonus points for making creative use of the local legends and urban myths
Did you know that they also turned to crime frequently and did not face an equal amount of systematic racism? My family moved to America in the 1920s from Italy, I've heard the stories and done the research. There's a reason that the two main immigrant groups that faced even a little racism (The Irish and Italians) turned to organized crime. Or have you never heard of the mafia?
>Did you also know that blacks, instead of trying to advance their lives or move out of ghettos, decide to deal drugs and shoot each other?
That is an attempt to get out of the ghetto. Being poor fosters a selfish mentality. They want out of the ghetto, and that takes money but they can't get a job because they had a poor education because they were born poor because their parents had a poor education because THEY were poor, and so on. So dealing drugs and robbing people is merely an attempt to make money and get by. Gang wars are another beast. Gangs typically form to defend an area from an outside threat, in black communities this tends to be the police who were for a very long time extremely racist and sometimes still are. Gangs develop strong ties to their communities and we all know that a love of one community can result in a hate of another. It's really just miniaturized patriotism with the added flavor of overcompensated masculinity due to a constant feeling of weakness.
For your last point you need to realize that to invent something you need to able to have the resources to spend on it. In areas of the world where your entire life is dedicated to just scrapping by with enough food you will see little to no advancement anywhere. Again, it comes back to farming.
My last reply , promise. I just feel bad when I see people like that believe that shit. I used to as well, before I got /fit/ and stopped compensating.
The Mali Empire didn't just collapse into tribes. It declined for a long time, until it was absorbed into the rising Songhai. Then, the Songhai collapsed, and various tribes and Islamic Kingdoms popped up, continually warring with each other.
If we could pull fantasy out of the jaws of vague christianity and roman/greek mythology the genera would do better as a whole.
Fuck it I'd even take american folklore at this point.
well in a setting they wouldn't really be a political entity, more a cultural one
course it wouldn't be humanly possible to accurately represent tribes which left little evidence of their existence so that's where we use the various african mythologies as a standin
I guess you got me there, but you have to admit that the whole 300 thing had Rome coming back for a while with games like God of War and Ryse.
>There will never be a good Egyptian based RPG
I thought about something, what about a game set in south america during the spanish conquests where the various gods finally answered their people's desperate pleas and made their various beliefs and mythologies actually work
and they're now using it to fight back the invasion
could be interesting
Technically, SMT3 doesn't. While it starts off in modern day Tokyo, the conception just completely destroys all sense of logic to the landscape and gives you these mish-mash normal Tokyo areas combined with weird dungeons, and there's only three humans in the entire game so no generic fantasy bullshit.
Strange Journey's setting is pretty interesting, too, but it's not quite the same as seeing "familiar" places around Tokyo warped into the Vortex World. It's also more difficult to get into, since it's made with the EO engine and turns the player character into a walking vending machine.
Takes ace in the deranged mind of a dying Chopin during his final moments. The endgame events run in parallel with his real life memories and accomplishments.
It's pretty bad though
Just watch the trailers and you'll catch my drift.
>there will never be a good 1001 nights setting rpg
>there will never be a discovery age rpg where you lead a portuguese/spanish expedition into exotic lands in asia, to trade, conquer, or both
>people actually believe there is such a thing as the chosen undead
Besides the daedra the lore was pretty standard shit. Morrowind is really the only point in the series that broke away from the standard generic European fantasy and that's also when Kirkbride was brought in.
Anyone? I want to know if I should give it a chance or drop it and move on. I don't really like dropping games but it's not hooking me with the story or world. The combat is pretty fun though.
For whatever reason I feel compelled to play the mainline series in order. I finished SMT1 and I'm waiting for SMT2 to get officially localized. I know that 3, SJ, and 4 have no ties to each other story-wise but I just don't feel right playing them out of order for some reason.
All I want is an RPG that takes place after the evil lord is beaten. When his army of monster, beastmen, orcs and undead have been shattered and you are playing as the diplomat that is trying to settle things in the long term.
Hell I'd be impressed if they actually just abandoned 'combat' all together and focused on a similar system for winning over members of the routed races. Going from city to city seeing just what happened to their people and culture. Which races were actually monsters and need to be relegated out of society? Which ones were under the whip and may end up being major contributors? Maybe some races just had their most extreme members catered to and their civilians suffered just as badly as the 'good' races or perhaps a major religious or political figure was held hostage.
That would be a great set up to explore an interesting fantasy universe.
Kiseki games all took place in the same universe where events from the previous games sets stage for the conflicts in the sequel
Sort of like the New Vegas midgame, combined with the only good part about Dragon Commander in a really great fantasy setting? That would be absolutely brilliant.
It will probably never happen, though, because non-combat games are hard to sell.