Well, this is depressing.
Has this guy ever heard a japanese person speak? Of course they're going to glance over the i in Murabito.
We know this already
Get the fuck over it, if your lucky they'll find a way around it and put them in as an update.
Even then, get over it and try other characters, like Mewtwo fags did back in Brawl
>sucked dick in the other smash games
No. Maybe if they were included now because infinite chaingrabs don't exist anymore. We don't know what buffs they could have gotten in its place though.
It kinda makes you think if there are more hidden chants for other unused characters. Probably not and the Ice Climbers were the only ones that were in enough development in the 3DS version to have their own chant and other things that would be linked to them, but removed afterwards due to issues playing as them in the same version.
I just don't get why people can't let it go.
I loved the Ice Climbers, but if it's impossible that they are in, then I can deal with it. Of course I'm still hoping that Sakurai tried to make them work and patches them in later, but if he can't do it, then I'll accept it
>removing Ice climbers from the Wii U version completely because the 3DS held them back
I don't think they are 2D spirtes, but holy hell those things run like shit
They should have had ice climbers force the 3D off. They probably could have worked, but nintendo pushing muh 3D probably wouldn't allow it.
>They weren't even popular
>Their last game was a Nes title that wasn't very good
>There was no hope of a reboot
>No one even knows where they're from
>People are STILL pining for them
Guys, come on. You fags just want what you can't have.
>Their last game was a Nes title that wasn't very good
Why the fuck do people say this? Have ANY of you even played it, or are you just parroting opinions? I played it, and it's very fun.
To be fair the 3D looks beautiful in smash.
Also it would've been bullshit if a single character forced you to do that.
I bet Sakurai would rather cut a buggy character entirely instead of putting them in in turn for compromises.
Heck I even bet that Ice Climbers mostly work, but bugs only appear if all 4 players use them
Well yeah, if they went out of their way to make Ice Climbers possibly work they would've instead have to cut a newcomer or two. Would that really be worth it just get IC in? Because all the newcomers looks pretty awesome
People didn't think that before it came out that ICs went into the garbage bin because of the 3DS.
A lot of people were against the idea of having to buy both games to play all the characters.
They were a unique member of the smash family. And established ones at that. Been in 2/3 games and were going to be in the fourth one if it wasn't for the 3DS version. They were loved for what they did in Smash and that's more of a reason to keep them in than to take them out.
>people consider Duck hunt good
>say IC's game is shit
Fuck you. You fags are sitting here complaining about one of the most underused and superfluous characters getting cut, and I'M a fucking drone? Fuck you.
>Underused in the competitive circuit
>Underused in the fun circuit
>Boring move set
Fuck you too.
>Dark Pit and Lucina probably took less than a week to make
>give lucina her own voice-animation-model-moves-effects
>p-probably one week soccer guy can't do wrong
You know alph could easely be the clone instead of edgy pit because he doesn't need use voice lines and already had a model, just re-skin his purple pikmin for a rock one and make him faster.
>inb4 edgy pit u ididn't play uprising
The point wasn't if they were iconic, the point was that they are from a game that has no sequel, same as Duck Hunt.
Sure, okay buddy.
I don't agree. It's fun. You know what isn't fun? A buggy, unresponsive game with a shitty accessory that never worked half the time. That's Duck Hunt.
>moving goal posts
Well koopalings kinda deserve it because they are from nintendo's flag franchise and best selling one.
I'm part awekeningfag but i'm not so butthurt about lucina, atleast she's a different character and not a clone in his own universe with a
"dark self" and literal recolor cliche, wich also shares the same voice.
And the doctor was already a veteran, not to mention pikmin has the same ammount of games as KI and more sales
Biakurai strikes again
They are. You just need experience with Japanese to hear it. It's 'mura-mura bito-bito mura-mura bito-bito'. Like >>264894501 says, the 'bi' is swallowed. Same goes for the 'mu', so it ends up like 'mra mra bto bto'. Again, if you know Japanese, especially the 'ra' in mura is clearly not a 'na'. (It also sounds more like 'toto' than 'popo' to me.) But I totally see where the confusion is coming from. Also, I get that you wouldn't expect a murabito chant to be split up into mura and bito if you don't know it's 村人. Why Gema thought this was worthwhile is beyond me, though.
Once 7.x encryption XORPads are possible to generate for the public we'll know if Ice Climbers are in fact in the game files. With that type of chant they probably are, just like how the announcer had voiced both Roy and Mewtwo's names in the Brawl files (which is used in PM).
It's not moving any goalpoasts you faggot. The clones didn't take much more time than any of the alt costumes.
But for some reason you're butthurt about them getting seperate slots instead of making them alts when in the end it's pretty much the same thing.
You're an absolute retard if you think that the Ice Climbers didn't get in because of DP, Lucina and Dr Mario. Heck the Koopalings probably took more time than all three of them together
Admit it guys. You don't miss the Ice Climbers. You miss the two-person mechanic. You don't give a shit about Popo or Nana.
emulate Duck Hunt with a tablet
It ain't a zapper, it's only so much better though.
Actually no. The Ice Climbers got cut for that same reason; the 3DS couldn't keep up with them and if all 4 players chose them for online matches, the console would have crashed.
The dumbest part about that is that a smashboards user who knew the announcer actually got him to say a bunch of names for characters back in 2008. I'm pretty sure Roy and Mewtwo were among them.
You ain't fooling anyone, Kirby.
they could have and should have gotten one but they didn't thats nintendos fuck up, same with ray they could easily make more games, they could put him in smash and then sell the games and he would be popular because of smash but no, instead we are getting zelda 35
Why do people keep bringing up the "no sequel" thing?
>implying duckhunt is getting a new game
>implying mega man is getting a new game
>implying pac man is getting a new game
>implying mr game & watch is getting a new game
What DLC? They're finished, you just need the New Nintendo 3DS™.
Seriously, think about it. Nintendo had no reason to announce a hardware revision right now with a terrible looking Wii port of a game no one wants.
It likely can handle it, but they didn't have the time to figure out how to do it. And why waste that many man hours getting 1 not popular character to work when you still need to finish the more liked ones?
yeah why keep a character people liked thats already fleshed out cause i don't want to deal with it, instead make more clones to fill the roster so it doesn't look like i'm an lazy incompetent dev
If Nintendo wants me to pay for Ice Climbers or any of the cut veterans they can fuck right off. If they're included in a pack with a bunch of new content for a cheap price then maybe.
The Mario Kart 8 DLC was reasonably priced, which brings me some hope. They better realize that the game costs about 40 bucks and has almost 50 characters and not try to sell like "4 characters for $10!"
the worse think is is that the 3ds version requires 4 copies fo the game and with that said it will sell not just more than the wiiu version, but it will sell at least 4 times as much
Say goodbye to Smash. At least we still got Donkey Kong
Every character likely had a time limit on design. You can't spend that many extra hours on just 1 non essential character. You have to move on and hope you can find time to work on it later. There are deadline to be met and milestones to meet. You don't risk missing these over 1 minor character.
It's not like Mario or Link weren't working. Ice Climbers are probably pretty low on the character importance list. They aren't newcomers or very popular. No extra time and money was going to be used to get them to work.
we know they are low priority cause sakurai is a fucking shill who on record say they were low importance because they don't have a game coming out soon, nintendo uses one of their best ips to advertise their other ips so they can be less shit its stupid
You remind me of two of my drunk friends a couple nights back.
>I like how you repeated yourself. You weren't happy enough that you were wrong, so you said it 3 more times, just to emphasize the fact that you were wrong
you fucking killed youtube
why dont you just fuck off so the queue doesn't have to be so fucking big wow
Uh, no. That's exactly what he just said. Unique characters were NOT cut so they could put clones in. They were added because Sakurai said "Fuck it we have some resources left".
Bait harder in a smash thread.
They probably couldn't think of a way to make his character different from Olimar. No way to modify the moveset to give him something unique. And given how poorly Olimar runs on the 3DS version, they likely didn't want to chance breaking anything by changing up the moveset in place. The pikmin already run terribly, changing them to different types or giving them more animations would not be a good idea.
>They probably couldn't think of a way to make his character different from Olimar.
Faster and replace purple pickmin with rock one
no new animations.
Less hard than making a moveset for a dog, a toy or a yoga trainer
I'm annoyed the ice climbers are cut from the Wii U version since there was no reason to do so other than "muh parity", but I'll deal. The 2 person mechanic was a lot of fun.
I'm confused why wolf and Lucas and other clones were cut when we have dark pit. At least wolf and Lucas were different and not just a recolor.
The 3DS has issues rendering the pikmin as is. A more detailed type might break the character. And making Alph faster would just magnify how poorly the pikmin run since he'll keep pulling away from them.
It's less the fact they were cut and more Sakurai's reasons behind it
He basically said "yeah, we could have worked them in, but they're just not worth my time."
Yet he has all the time in the world for dark pit
People don't actually care about Ice Climbers, they're just a scapegoat to hate the 3DS version.
Nope. Loved Ice climbers since the melee, this just showed me Nintendo doesn't really care about it's fans
This was before Sigurd started copying and going full Double Asterisk/**/Lala-Kun with slight differences
also, I liked one of Ice Climbers' victory poses when they placed 1st, where Nana's behind Popo and they start leaning to the left/right and shift to leaning to the right/left and repeating those actions.
You know what I'm talking about?
They care about content being cut because of the 3DS version. The Ice Climbers are the only known characters cut. But there could be other content/characters that was cut because of the 3DS limitations.
Ice Climber was one of the first games I played. I didn't know what was going on but I liked it and I knew who they were when I played Melee.
The 3DS version killed any chance of this game being amazing.
I miss the ice climbers because
they were the only reason my sister ever wanted to play
Ice Climbers IS Smash Bros to a whole lot of people. Imagine if they cut Captain Falcon, just like that. Ice Climbers is another one of those things you EXPECT from Smash; an integral part of the game's identity.
>hurr dead franchise
>he was never that relevant
It's a shame they aren't there but I'm not going full autist about it.
Ice Climbers had their time. If there were too much to be done to make them work and could be replaced with new characters (DHD, WFT) with unique playstyles then so be it.
>'ok, he was pretty much a glorified clone anyways'
>axe ice climbers, add more fe characters including another clone