>play through shadow of mordor
>get to rivendell
>talking to elrond, chief boss of all elves
>group of kids run past us
>there is a young dwarf with a soul patch, a young blonde male elf and a young human lad
>''you have my sword!'' says the human boy
>''you have my bow!'' says the young blonde elf
>''and my axe!'' says soulpatch dwarf
Wooooooow, really? Peter Jackson is turdning in his grave at this lore rape
>LITTLE JIMMIES LARPING AS THEIR FAVORITE STORYBOOK HEROES
you didnt as a child?
and this is coming from a guy who has no plans on buying or playing the game
>getting this upset over a small nod to the memorable scene in the first movie
>go to rivendell
See, this game would have gotten Witcher 3 levels of hype if it had a vast open world in middle-earth set on the movies, and you play as a random guy with a separate story arc. Maybe one of gondor's soldiers? mercenary? Play as an orc?
>tfw gandalf shows up and saves your ass
>talion, you're the only one who can stop sauron, you're the chosen ranger
THE fuck. And he isn't the only one who can stop sauron clearly.
Yeah apparantly his father is his 'enemy', when you meet gollum he asks you to kill 'the other creature' which turns out to be his dad. They've been fighting over the ring for years in the mountain.
but with that hanging over the reviews, i now can't trust ANY positive press about it either, so i guess i'll just hate to totally ignore this game. which is a shame because i was looking for a new game to play. oh well.
>"In other news, Britain is set on using Tolkien's grave as a power supply. The late author has recently started to spin in his grave with a force stronger than 5 hydroelectric dams."
How is getting Viggo to play Aragorn a bad thing? Doesn't that make sense even from a cinematic point of view? It would look awkward if Gandalf was played by a different guy each movie.
>Open world LOTR game
>It's set in fucking Mordor
Not even him. The elves of Valinor are higher up the boss chain.
>LOTR video game
>It's still based on Jackson LOTR
You could still try Lord of the Rings online and ride from Thorins Hall in the Blue Mountains all the way to Dol Amroth or Edoras, stop in Lothlorien,Moria,Annuminas,Fornost,Isengard etc along the way
Well books and movies don't always work as cohesively if the director follows the source material word by word. I doubt I have a better idea how to make a great movie than Jackson. But why bother trying to explain this shit to a virgin like you.
Except it did when Jackson made the first 3 movies. Then for Hobbit he fucks it all up.
He cut material from the other movies so they wouldn't be 9 hours long. Why is he adding stuff that didn't exist in the hobbit?
Not that guy, and yes, he's wrong, but Aragorn was about 10 years old when the Hobbit took place.
Definitely not someone you want played by an aging Viggo Mortensen. There's also no reason to add the character to the story other than one more lame insert.
Even that would have been better than the face drama with the white ork they turned into a nemesis, "hurr theres a huge fucking dragon in the story that kills people but the viewers need an antagonist"
I still want a middle earth game that lets me just explore the whole of middle earth and visit all the ancient places without being completely over the top and ridiculous like everything LOTR we get nowadays.
Why does every game need to be Jacksonized Tolkien?
Well, if they didn't have that, they couldn't have an "epic" battle to finish the first installment on.
Can't have that, might make people not want to go see the second part.
Ed Sheeran did that perfectly well on its own.
Does it have everyone throwing magic around like it's candy, with wow styled powers and cool downs?
Is it just like every MMO?
I had completely written it off since the concept of an MMO seems diametrically opposed to what I'm looking for in a middle earth game.
Everything is ridiculous about the game, especially the plot. I could deal with it all up until saruman and sauron 'fuse' together, stating that with this true power, they're now the darkest lord ever to reign middle earth, Sauronman.
PvMP was pretty cool when this game was in it's prime. The only thing that pissed me off is the bambi worgs that would knock you off your mount run away stealth and fucking do it again.
It's the Demon's Souls like start, where you're expected to die but rewards you if you don't
but then kills you anyway
The beginning of the level is a tutorial but then it just starts throwing more and more shit at you. It starts with just orcs, then it's lots of orcs, then it's a whole host of orcs, then the wargs, then the orcs on wargs, then the trolls, then the oliphants, then the trolls on oliphants, then the orcs on the trolls, then the orcs on trolls on oliphants, then the orcs on trolls on oliphants on wargs, and then the nazgul, and then the nazgul on fellbeasts, and then the spiders and then the unnamed terrors from the dark parts of the world. And if you somehow evade all that death you get an
"I survived ithilien and all I got for it was this shirt" t-shirt and then the credits roll
Initially no, there was the class of "lore masters" who doesent exactly use magic but kind-of-magic, its all become a bit dilluted with the new classes
since it was made a free2play game there has been a huge paywall for everything after Eriador and Moria, or simple stuff like Inventory bags, horse riding etc, so you either grind for "destiny points" by completing tasks to pay for that stuff or use real money. lately they have been shitting out terrible expansions every one or two years, Moria was better than the core game, then mirkwood was okay, isengard was terrible and riders of rohan and helms deep have kept up that tradition. Its still worth trying just for seeing so many places from the books including tom bombadil and his house, the old forest, Angmar, Rohan,Gondor, Mirkwood, Lorien,Moria etc.
This and faggots always complain about something being left out. Even though there is always a major part of the story removed an and extra movie ain't gonna fix it.
>Rip scarring of the Shire
>Watch Hobbit: part 2
>five minutes of the dwarves building a giant golden dwarf statue
It was so stupidly hyped in them movie that I honestly believed for a second they'd create some magic controlled dwarf mech to fight Smaug with.
Watch this 6-4GB VRAM thing be a Nvidia marketing stunt. They pay studios to bump the VRAM requirement so their overpriced 6-4GB VRAM cards becomes more demanding, sure their most commercial cards right now only goes to 4GB right now but watch them in a month or so release GTX 970ti with 6GB cram. Maxwell is struggling to make a significant performance leap, the latest cards brags about faster memory bandwidth while performance wise they perform like OC'd 770/780s.
>split hobbit in 3 movies to get more space to fit in your wife's OC
>"Talion times are hard and sauron is on the move......."
>"and we are in the times of Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor"
Really Hackson? Realllyyy???
Yeah but when you visit these places the characters aren't very fleshed out and at most will give you a lame fetch quest that rewards you with tickets you can take to the front desk to trade in for cheap 10 cent toy.
At least that's my impression of MMOs. I have a very negative opinion on the genre and don't really give them a chance. I expect tons of shitty content with very little substance and plays like absolute shit. At best everything feels lifeless and sterile and at worst everything is a truncated caricature of the original that makes you question why you're even playing the thing to begin with. They seem to be geared not to entertain their players but to get the weak willed people hooked on the never ending treadmill.
Maybe I've misjudged MMOs, but I'm really not about to jump in anytime soon MMOs are such a hassle.
That character is probably my least favorite in the history of movies. Its so painfully shoved into the movie with a fucking dwarf romance that I'm sure the amount of lube needed for Hackson to pull this plot line out of his ass was 40% of the budget.
Did anyone really like this character? Was she really necessary and did legolas really need to be out shinned by her (as well as have his own 'super cool fight scene!'?)
Yeah its the same threadmill as everywhere else, now that they made faction rewards you can no longer buy with money but have to grind reputation for every single one of those factions, its terrible, i only play occasionally because i started playing years ago when it was different
Still the best Middle-Earth game out there.
>prince of mirkwood
Holy shit PJ literally made him the last prince of mirkwood, didn't he? How did I not realise this before.
Guys, can I play with these speccy:
W 7 64bit
i5 460 @ 2.53 GHz
4 GB ram
Ati Radeon HD 5650 1 GB
>the orginal audience was people who read the movie
I know we have the occasional deep sea thread, but just think for a minute.
What kind of monsters would dwell in the seas of Arda?
>non extended edition
>saruman is left on top of his tower
>end of return of the king
>waiting for scourging of the shire
>it never happened
>extended edition years later
>saruman gets killed
In the original cut Saruman's story just didn't have an ending.
We did get this gem out of it.
Sorry for ebaums, the video is no longer on youtube.
Why the fuck would a fallen angel of Eru fuse with a Second Age wizard?
Hobbit movies are shit honestly.
It's all about CGI now.
If anyone wants to watch a good Hobbit adaptation there is a 80's cartoon "Hobbit" which is actually pretty cool.
Some stuff was skipped but overall it's better than Peter Jackson's shit.
Or better, just read the fucking book, it's not so big.
I actually never knew Lee was a secret service agent in WW2. Thats some bad ass shit.
>It's all about CGI now.
It's amazing what Jackson did to avoid CGI in the LOTR movies.
He built two scales of the Bag End set to put gandalf and the hobbits properly in it.
And in The Hobbit we get a green screen Bag End.
I have! And I agree that it's not bad.
Just more my thing to command giant armies, and watch them clash, you know?
Still, not going to bash Last Days of the Third Age. Fun times.
Tolkien-verse dueling simulator when?
The Valar that controls the seas of Middle Earth is the last deity that still actively protects his realm.
It's why the servants of Sauron shit themselves when nearing the sea, or dealing with running water.
>Wooooooow, really? Peter Jackson is turdning in his grave at this lore rape
Why am I t he first one to bite here? Is everyone else too retarded to see how this is just wrong or am I an idiot for getting trolled too easily?
Imagine these two giants duking it out
and then fucking afterwards
>in anyway related to the lore of lotr
>Peter Jackson is turdning in his grave at this lore rape
The first two Ages had some pretty overpowered shit, anon.
The reason the Istari are such low powered bitch wizards is basically because the gods went "nope, not doing that again"
The elves didn't really have a single ruler in the third age. Despite Celeborn's kingship, Galadriel was the de facto ruler of Lothlorien and arguably the one with the greatest influence. Still, she wouldn't meddle in Elrond's businesses, or vice versa. However, in addition to these two, there was also Cirdan in the Gray Havens, who was the eldest and wisest of the elves in Middle Earth. But he wouldn't ever try to influence the others or tell them what to do, even though he possibly could have.
There will never be a game outside Middle Earth.
While it's not good, I can actually see that. I mean, Gollum's father, if anything, would probably also be greedy as fuck, and perhaps even Gollum as he found the ring showed it to his dad and he also got as possessed by it.
I'd love to play a game who focuses on Aragorn's story
>prologue part is when he's raised and trained by elves
>explore middle-earth as a Hobo
>do quests alongside Elladan, Elrohir and others pnj
>meet major characters such as Gandalf, Denethor, ...
>The Hunt for Gollum
>lotr will never be as big as it was during the SoA and Moria :(
Ok, i have to admit it. I'm one of those who always bitch about AAA games these days, all the bribes over journalism and all that bullshit, but for what i have seen, the games looks pretty awesome.
Didn't preorder it, will pritate it, and if i find out it's as good as other people said (in forums and reviews), this is going to be a solid buy.
Hope it's true.
Fuck the lore by the way.
Does anybody have a decent torrent for this?
No way am I paying for this game to find out that it runs like shit on my system
> requires 6 GB VRAM to run on ultra
> still looks worse than Crysis
>Four (4) bosses at the same time
>two of them summon hordes of Uruks
>one of them cannot be parried and has a shield
This "dynamic" open world shits on me very often
>Initially no, there was the class of "lore masters" who doesent exactly use magic but kind-of-magic, its all become a bit dilluted with the new classes
Oh man, I remember that shitstorm when the game just launched.
>LORE BREAKING GARBAGE
And now Turbine aims to add a fucking shapeshifting class this year.
Probably because MoM was the only really legit expansion that felt like one. Everything after it was essentially just a glorified content patch.
thing with lotro is that you're just some guy who occasionally intersects with the fellowship and other well know characters. or at least that was the case until these last two expansions when the story started ramping up and you become more of a soldier than anything else. of course, this means a ton of menial tasks like delivering pies to hungry hobbits and slaughtering wild boar populations.
>literally Press a button, beat the shit out of 10 orcs the game
>people say it's fun
I don't see it.
>Invulnerable to stealth
>Invulnerable to ranged
>Battle hardened (harder to kill(
>Other misc strengths
>Only weakness is fear of burning
HOLY SHIT WHAT DO
The guy just one shots me with his crossbow, the only move which works on him is the wraith flurry but I aint likely to get that off when a bunch of caragors keep swarming my asshole (by the way they also enrage him making him harder to kill)
I'm fucking terrified of this guy, holy shit
>Viggo refused, because there was no Aragorn in the Hobbit books.
A friend of mine who has read all of the original middle-earth material told me that there was no encounter with the necromancer in the Hobbit either, but that was in some separate story. And in that story Gandalf teamed up with young Aragorn and went to Dol Guldur to face the necromancer. Aragorn is 87 years old in RoTK afterall.
But I might be remembering it wrong. Anyway, the point is that if they took the storyabout the necromancer and combined it with the story of the Hobbit, then why couldn't one of the characters from the necromancer story be in the combination?
The most plausible theory is that Tom Bombadil is the personification of Ea itself.
The real explanation is that Tom Bombadil makes no fucking sense whatsoever and Tolkien only added him to the story because his kids/grandkids thought it'd be cool, sort of like adding trains and talking boats to Zelda.
Tom doesn't fit with the known cosmology, but that's not a problem. Ungoliant doesn't either and can only be classified as an extraterrestrial. Tom Bombadil might just be an alien too.
Then the point becomes they shouldn't have combined the story of the necromancer with the Hobbit in the first place, not added heaps more lore raping bullshit.
Mortensen declining is probably one of his most noble career moves.
>Gandalf teamed up with young Aragorn and went to Dol Guldur to face the necromancer
I doubt it. Even if he was already born he would have been either an infant or a small child. Aragorn is old, but not THAT old.
I'm gonna go about this the same way I do Bordelands
Pirate the base game and if it's good enough, buy it later on when there's some GotY edition that comes with all the DLC for $40 or whatever
Implying anyone would have given a shit if it didn't have Middle-Earth or Mordor slapped into the title.
Would anyone have cared if it was Shadow of Whateverthefuckistan instead?
Gandalf teamed up with Saruman, Elrond and Galadriel to drive Sauron out after he found out that Sauron was chilling there - Aragorn wasn't involved. Dol Guldur wasn't actually destroyed until later, though, when Galadriel and Thranduil got sick of it shitting all over Mirkwood.
I'm not really sure which incident the film is drawing from. I guess it's an embellished account of Gandalf 'discovering' that the Necromancer is Sauron, by the subtle means of Sauron's giant CGI darkness explosions.
Real talk: How do I deal with the pig things? Dodging is like MLG tier timing and often I'm stuck in an animation so it won't work anyways. I never know when I can mount them either. Some times I get the button prompt some times I don't. Fucking contextual gameplay.
This game is too hard in many situations.
I'm not a shitty player it's just the game likes to pile on you because of its randomness
Bosses spawn entire armies of poison-throwing ranged mobs, more often than not you'll get 3 or 4 bosses on top of each other instead of fighting just one or two etc
And there's nothing you can do about it except run away and hope you get luckier next time
Also some bosses spawn with skill combos as retarded as in Diablo 2 making them nearly impossible to beat, while others are even easier than a normal Uruk
Kill off their captains first by doing the power struggles missions. It will make it easier and you will be able to upgrade your dude before facing the final boss. It also took me a while to realize there is some tactics involved after getting killed 4 times by the Warchiefs because I was getting gangraped by 4 captains.
If it seems that way its because its like the original big fantasy setting and so many things have copied it over the years that it may seem cliche. but its the original so it's excused.
It's only ''cliche'' because everyone else copied it.
If lord of the rings just came out right now it'd be shat on, but tolkien invented alot of the tropes we see in fantasy today and alot of other settings copied it or were influenced by it. He started writing the books in the trenches during world war 2 dude.
Have you done the sword quest to clear the ghoul cave with the ghoul boss at the end?
How the fuck do you beat that?
The small ones are pretty much endless, and the matron constantly either spits poison on you (nearly impossible to dodge) or immediately counter attacks (can't be parried) after getting hit
>get killed by the ghoul matron
>3 caragors waiting below the tower
>they just spam attack me and I can't even dodge fast enough
>game's face when
The first fellowship game was strange. I don'tz remember whether it was shit, but it let you play as various charactewrs with different strengths, it had rpg elements and I believe it followed the book.
>Then neither is pjs movies.
HE'S CATCHING ON
yeah but how about those sonyggers with there nogaemstation I mean the only console ever made with fewer games than the peestinkforever is the xboner "go home" am I right unless you count the peepoo which you can't because DED CONSOLE but not as ded as pc I mean do pc owners play anything but mobas or what and how about those handheld autists playing games on the bus in their fedoras
That's not true.
It's a tool; like any other tool it can be used or abused.
He's phoning these in. He didn't want to do them in the first place. His passion is gone.
The 48fps is the type of thing 90% of people won't notice without being told, and half of the remaining 10% would not be able to explain what it was that was different, just that it felt different.
It's not the same as vidya, where jumping from 24fps to 48fps is hugely noticeable and an objective improvement. It's different in movies for a variety of reasons.
In my personal opinion, I don't care for it. But it's more of a style decision that anything else, I just don't think a LOTR movie is the right place for it.
No fiction is ever original, ever. Which makes you and the anon you're responding to dumb. "All art is theft".
The true sign of a pleb spouting shit he's heard from another idiot on the internet. His works share common themes with the literature he studied because that's what he enjoyed. If Tolkien isn't authentic enough for you then you might as well write off all fantasy and most science fiction.
>level 10 enemy
>full armor and shield
>blocks dodge over him
>immune to range
>call in other captains
>vulnerable to finishers
Rest of the game was easy so far, but just how the fuck am I supposed to beat this guy. Could not make him fall in 3 deaths. I might be able to manage 1 on 1 but this fucker keeps calling in elites almost as good as him.
How do I beat shield? The usual tactic of vaulting over or headshots doesn't work here.
Yes. I could have considered buying it if it wasn't for the horrendous lore-rape.
The Nemesis system, IMO, is a good enough concept to stand on its own without the crutch of a licence.
At this point the licence is detrimental to the game.
>enjoying the nemesis system
>one orc hates me because of the scar I gave him from an earlier encounter
>run into a pinkish orc
>read his name
>do a triple take
>he starts wailing at me and runs towards me
>take him down with one swipe
>Talion laughs and shouts out ''Looks like meats back on the menu boys'' to the remaining orcs nearby
Holy shit this thread. Laughed so much. Imagine if that shit was real though. Maybe in shadow of mordor 2: Return of the wraith ranger.
>Got to the second map
>Retrieved the tiny hammer of vaguely evil smithing
>Still can't make people my minions
Don't see why the main character ever had to be human.
A ringwraith would make so much more sense, with sauron giving missions to stabilise the army and gradually turning on Sauron as you come to control the show.
Tolkienfuns are the funniest. They sperg out over a poorly written book by a poor writer and then like to pretend they are berry literate. visiting these threads is a bit like watching the special olympics
>game is literally shit
>b.b.but it's fuuuuuuuuuuuun
I fucking hate mousetards "game of the week" fads. You all act like you've got a big shit in the hand, and by monday it will be forgotten, but damn at this very moment, you are just so fucking obnoxious.
Chill out? It's a vidya game, we're playing it and having fun until the next vidya game comes out to have fun with. What's your problem? Im personally a fan of all LOTR games, re-played BFME2 last week.
>Imagine that someone still has some artistic integrity.
It's more likely that his son went NO DONT PLAY ARAGORN HE'S NOT IN THE HOBBIT because he's a massive LOTR fan while Viggo doesn't give a shit either way.
Actually the book quests in LotRO are pretty fucking baller, and focus on side and OC characters. You only meet the Fellowship once or twice per expansion, and usually you're in no position to actually impact their quest.
I'm really liking the gameplay so far, I think with the rest of the year being mediocre it's by far the strongest competitor for the GOTY.
However the technical side is atrocious, I'm playing it from SSD with OCd 780Ti on high/ultra settings and framerate drops to 30fps whenever it has to load textures. And it has the worst memory leak I've encountered in games in my whole life, just an hour of playing and any sort of switching the screen results in complete frame-freezing.
What makes it worse is you can't kill him, you get him down to 1 HP and a cutscene ensues, complete with crappy QTE's. Then he beats your ass in the cutscene (hate when games do this, I was doing just FINE a second ago...) and then sauronman has the balls to taunt you and you can face him again in the upcoming DLC. He literally talks about dlc...
''You can face me again, ranger, perhaps in the future, for a price...''
I choked on my lambas bread when I saw it.
Holy shit. Not as bad as mass effect 3 with the pop up ''continue shepards adventures with downloadable content!'' after the shitty ending cutscene.
The last two words of the epic trilogy were 'downloadable content'. So insulting.
If you bought this game you deserve everything you get fucking lore-rape enablers.
I spent 8 hours just walking slowly across the plains (dont like to run, not realistic, i like to save energy for battles.. unless i jog alittle is ok)
admiring views, collectin herbs, etc. Barely touched the story.
Nice try, dudebro. Go watch The Hobbit now.
Reminds me of xbot nerds complaining about ryse taking an hour and half to install from disc, from a FUCKING DISC why does it need to install in the first place. Fucking devs.
>Playing Shadow of Mordor
>Recruit all the warchiefs
>"Okay, that was alright, what next?"
>Suddenly, after a 'final boss but haha not really' moment, Sauron appears
>"No ranger, I will be the shadow of mordor"
>Uses some magic shit to make all my warchiefs his again and makes them all 5 levels stronger
What the fuck?
Are they seriously artificially extending the game by just making me repeat the same shit over again?
I'm considering uninstalling
>LotR is a well written fantasy series
we're never going to get a game based on the books
LoL confirmed greatest game ever made
>''You can face me again, ranger, perhaps in the future, for a price...''
for fucks sake. gaming truly is dead.
>Faggots getting BTFO by shitting writing in a shitty game based on a shitty series
It's actually not Morgoth, it's a fusion between Sauron and Morgoth.
Basically, the main antagonist has been trying to revive Morgoth and Sauron, so he uses himself as a sacrifice at the end to let them both enter his body and create a fusion between the two.
Then you kill him by having the creator of the rings sacrifice himself to create a temporary super ring of power, that lets you banish the both of them again.
>Enjoying nemesis system
>See a "stop execution" mission.
>One orc is trying to execute the other one who is restrained and is doing a whole show before killing him
>It's my chance to kill 2 generals at once
>General going slowly to behead the victim
>Headshoot him from miles away and then shadow strike him
>Go kill the second orc
>"*something something* THE KIND HEARTED"
>Afraid of everything, literally no strenghts, only weaknesses.
>"I can't kill this guy ;~;"
>Event over, guy climbs up in the ranks
Fast forward a little
>kindhearted Orc is a warchief's bodyguard now
>Go kill warchief for mission
>Bodyguard chimes in
>Intro sequence we just butt heads together and he makes sounds, no dialoge... just sounds
>Get rekt by warchief while awwing at the kindhearted orc
It's lore rape of the worst kind, made by people who probably saw the movies once back when they first came out and that's it.
as a game? It's fun, I suppose. Pretty much a carbon copy of assassin's creed and bamham.
I never said I believed it was an RPG though.
I haven't played it for myself, only read things that have said it's an RPG.
Why are you trying to create an argument out of nothing?
Do people still play LOTRO? I remember it was great.
>Over 25,000 square mile map
>Roleplaying was actually great
>Come across some people roleplaying in a tavern drinking dat ale
>People playing instruments
>People chilling by campfires in the middle of nowhere just bullshitting back and forth.
i had a guy gank me while fighting a warchief and he was called like something the merciful, and he just floored me and then let me go, the guy actually fucked me once or twice but never killed me
So explain to a casual why doesn't Tom Bombdil fit into the lore? He looks like he perfectly fits in to me. I mean in both LoTR and Hobbit there was a dwarf song and hobbit song with them dancing