>Anakin and Dooku square off numerous times in the movies and a lot in the clone wars shit >anakin fights Ventress a lot and she wrecks his shit/gets away >anakin kills dooku the next day, when its convenient for the plot
>Luke face Vader and gets fucked >goes emo >doesn't get any more training from yoda >manages to beat the fuck out of vader >gets fucked by palpatine >fucked up vader manages to lift and throw palpatine who is some sort of super wizard
>>266235465 Jedis suck. Apparently jedi MASTERS are taken out by like 3 clone troopers when order 66 is executed. Like 2 of those robots with shields caused a jedi master and obi wan to flee. Send in like 10 of those and this bitch is toast. Jedi aren't useful as combatants, they are useful as wise men.
>>266236256 Fuck that clone wars cash grab cartoon shit. Anakin was originally supposed to have squared off against Dooku twice. Get his ass beat in 2, and double in strength to defeat him in 3. The cartoon undermines so much continuity shit, it's ridiculous.
>>266235465 Depends on your perspective. The KOTOR era force users and Ancient Sith in the EU in general were obviously portrayed in a way in which they were far more powerful, fantastical and exaggerated than what we were seeing in the movies, which were more grounded even in the ridiculous prequels. But you know, videogames.
But George Lucas if you give a shit about his opinion made it canon at the time that characters he created like Vader and Sidious were the most powerful force users that ever existed, even if their feats would suggest otherwise. Now with Disney's new plan the KOTOR games aren't even canon, they're something of an elseworld storyline at best so I'm gonna go ahead and say no.
This is just my opinion, but there was never a true "consistency" with these stories even before Disney bought the franchise, it all depends on the writer here. KOTOR 2 in itself was Chris Avellone's subversion of Star Wars and it's simpler black-and-white tropes.
These characters were blatantly stronger than your typical force users in the movies and bordered more on high fantasy, probably due to the fact they were written by WRPG writers. In that respect they're stronger, but if you want to bring the broader saga into the mix then it would likely be written so that KOTOR Sith would be nerfed and defeated by movie characters because plot armor.
Is that a serious question? Do you have any idea how incredibly weak the characters from the movies are in comparison to some of the shit in EU? There are characters in EU that can literally kill entire planets with the Force. Kreia would shit on anyone in the movies, with the exception of maybe Palpatine in his prime.
>>266238431 That's because yoda a shit. He sure as fuck didn't so very good. The whole way they handled that assassination was piss poor. They should have both taken palpatine on and then fucked vader.
>>266240348 IIRC, Revan was the best duelist in the galaxy at his prime.
Malak was too scared to fight him 1v1 and he killed the other greatest combatants (Mandalore and Eusanis) in duels. Given how impressed everyone was at these feats, it's likely he didn't even resort to the force to do so - people wouldn't recall them with awe if he just turned up, choked a bitch and fucked off.
Except that it does, in the sense that the protagonist is a Mary Sue that is almost as powerful as Palpatine, with significantly less training and experience. His character is a complete asspull out of nowhere and he somehow ends up being one of the strongest Force users in history. This completely undermines what Lucas established in his own movies. He can't write for shit.
>>266241484 The sequel is not better in that regard. It's the same shit except this time you get scolded by Kreia for your decisions. If you were good then you shouldn't have been good. If you were evil you shouldn't have done that either. If anything the sequel punishes you more for not being far on entire alignment than the first one.
Mace Windu is one of the incredibly rare individuals to actually invent a completely new lightsaber form, which he exclusively used and to devestating effect. Everyone else has just been using the same already established lightsaber forms for the past several thousand years. Sidious was probably confused as shit by Windu's fighting style and Windu used this to his advantage.
>>266241827 >Story full of plot holes, inexplicably stupid and unreasonable characters, and character arcs that go nowhere even with the content patched back in >B-but it's okay, all the characters are SUPPOSED to be retarded, that makes the story deep!
>>266236582 Pretty much everything post ROTJ aside from Dark Empire, the Young Jedi whatever the shit books, Darksaber and Legacy of the Force.
Despite what people say about the New Jedi Order books some of them are some of the best in the entire franchise, actually showing severe threat to the heroes, putting a KOTOR 2 style "dark is not evil" spin on the Force, some pretty good new characters, Wedge Antilles etc. It's pretty much like the equivalent of a comic book crossover where everyone bands together against a horrific common enemy except it's good on the whole.
From films - no. Sith and jedis in films rely on sabers too much.
From games - only Revan in his prime, everyone else is too weak (easy to destract, has emotions, relies on one strategy). The problem is its hard to know Krea limits, because even strongest of the sith are just children for her.
>b-but muh order 66!
Krea, HK-47 and pilot explains that jedi rely on force sense too much so they dont see threat from allies and fail to react in proper way. Imagine you are trained to fight with a knife, you have a knife and suddenly your knife attacks you, what the fuck would you do?
>>266241715 first off >letting the character who lives to be contrary (in order to make you consider your actions more carefully) put you off making decions
Even ignoring that, the vast amount of light/dark opportunities is so much more improved. KoToR 1 did have smart evil and good, but you got forced into being full retard jesus or a baby eater if you didn't want to get gimped out of the mastery bonus. In KoToR 2 you could be a dickass manipulator Sith without smashing peoples teeth in for looking at you funny, and you could also be a pragmatic jedi that didn't empty his wallet at the first puppy eyes he sees.
>>266242431 Back in 05 the True Sith weren't necessarily the Sith as we knew them from other things like the comics. The way they came across made them either sound like the Yuuzhan Vong, terrifying aliens of some sort at the very least. Them turning out just to be a splinter of Naga Sadow's empire with the silly red skin was kind of a let down to be honest.
The fact that Revan in 2 was said to have been preparing the Galaxy for the threat the entire time with his actions in systematically preserving shipyards in his campaign and that sort of thing made it kind of shitty than when TOR came around it was like the Republic had completely fucking forgotten.
>>266242524 >better characters >Atton is the ONLY well-written party member that isn't just ripped off from the first game. T3 is superior in 2, HK is debatable, and Mandalore is objectively worse than Canderous. >Compared to Kotor 1 HK, Canderous, Juhani, Zaalbar/Mission, and Jolee Motherfucking Bindo. >Even fucking Carth is better written than Mira or the Zabrak I can't even remember the name of anymore.
While I do like Kotor, the fighting is the same ridiculous shit we saw in the prequels
Jedi Knight did the OT feel much better, Kyle uses guns and grenades in addition to his lightsaber and it's more grounded fighting due to the mechanics. Also you can't use the powers of the force that often which keeps them feeling rare and powerful like in OT
When the power levels go too high I just stop caring
Something less. As far as I know, no one that actually feels the Force can voluntarily just "let go" of it. Visas compares losing the Force to blinding a painter. It's supposed to be an incredibly traumatic experience that leaves you an emtpy shell of a person.
Made the game feel like a movie, which I think is what they were trying to go for. Not only that, but the game has some of the best pacing I've ever experienced in a game. It's just so perfect. Gotta play through that again.
>>266242413 technically Palpy did BTFO Windu, because he used the teaching and moral code of the Jedi against him with Anakin Mace windu tried striking him down without a trial or anything, Anakin reacted because ''it's immoral and against our code'' while knowing that Palpy was evil as all fuck.
That would've made the movies so much better ,l would accept it easier.
>>266242594 In Kotor 2 the mastery bonuses are more prominent. The whole point of going full light or dark in Kotor 2 so you could get the specialization for your Jedi class.
Let's face it Kotor 2 is a fun game but it's practically the same game with updated models and force powers that you will probably never use because the sound of crunching enemies bodies is too good to pass up. Both games have the same stupid dialogue choices and equally stupid stories.
>>266243021 >Implying >Windu died because he saw the weakness of Palpatine in the future and the motherfucking faggot killed him. He could have easly defeat him. >Kenobi is basically inmortal and one of the masters of Soresu of the galaxy. Sure mate.
>>266243161 >Let's face it Kotor 2 is a fun game but it's practically the same game with updated models and force powers that you will probably never use because the sound of crunching enemies bodies is too good to pass up.
not really. KoToR 1 has the crippling replay flaw in that anything other than a pure melee character or a pure force character is practically worthless due to the 1v1 segments, coupled with the complete lack of motivation to do anything but make said build.
KoToR 2 made this much better. Tech builds, blaster builds and even unarmed builds are now completely viable to complete the game with, and there are reasons you might actually want to do so. the exp bonus/item creation/bashing causing broken items actually gives you motivation to use skills as well.
>>266243868 Yeah, Kreia is clearly intended to betray you. CLEARLY. So clearly, that I do not think it was intended to be a surprise. You can get her to talk about being Darth Traya right after Peragus.
>tfw BioWare cant be trusted with their own IPs anymore >KotOR is kill >Mass Effect is kill >Dragon Age is kill but may be ressurected >Jade Empire is better off not having a BioWare sequel >they belong to EA
>>266237576 Why would you not care about George Lucas's opinion? He might make bad decisions sometimes but he still created Star Wars. That's like saying you don't care about George Romero's opinion on zombie canon.
>>266244220 That's the point, silly. The builds allow you to keep the challenge. It's not about making a powerful build, but about making a cool build; something you enjoy playing. The game is extremely easy, it's true.
For example, I just don't use Force lightning anymore, because it ruins the game.
>>266244438 You should probably replay the game, she takes you as her apprentice so the Jedi and Sith can both be wiped out and replaced with a better new order under the Exile. She doesn't have any intention of actually killing the Force like Atris tells you, it's just a lure to get you to go back to Malachor V, a place you'd otherwise stay far the fuck away from. She says that she's proud of you at the end because you managed to finally put her out of her misery and accomplish her dream of getting rid of the corrupt Jedi and scumbag Sith.
>>266244562 Yeah, basically any lightsaber build could fuck everything up in a moment >first run through, I did a flurry-based lightsaber build, one-shotted the last half of the game and two-shotted kreia
If Sidious is so strong why did he bother with Luke at all? Why not have Vader take him to a prison cell and then create a force storm over the Rebel fleet destroying all their ships in a way faster time than it would have taken to continuously fire the Death Star laser?
The answer is he couldn't because he was never meant to be that fucking strong.
>>266236582 Thrawn trilogy rogue squadron series Anything after RotJ, besides truce at bakura which I've been trying to read for a year. Rogue Squadrons badass if you like a top gun/Star Wars novel. Wedge Antilles hops on one transparisteel leg.
>>266245504 Then why did he keep war related infrastructure intact during his conquests, before his mind was wrecked? It seems he always intended to assemble his own armada from the star forge + conquered planets to face the emperor.
>>266245106 >even mentioning Dark Empire, the worst part of the entire Star Wars expanded universe
>muh Super Star Destroyer with a death star laser on it >muh gun that can destroy entire solar systems from the other side of the Galaxy >muh force storms that can kidnap people somehow >muh world devastators >muh where the fuck am I getting half of these from >muh turn Luke to the dark side plot >oh god who the fuck is writing this
Escalation syndrome hit Star Wars like a fucking truck. All the authors wanted their super special plot, powers and enemies, but didn't consider the retroactive damage they were doing to the series.
Something I like about KoToR 2 is that, while there are powerful figures like Nihlus/Sion present, the game makes it very clear that their power is only an illusion of strength; the fact that they can't control it makes the power their weakness.
>>266245545 Yeah, he gradually becomes pretty incredible and eventually leads the new Jedi Order. He tries to avoid fighting much but on the rare occasions he does in the books he becomes a force of nature.
>>266245693 Kotor 2 does have more options but I feel like it doesn't matter what you do because all options are so viable it makes the game too easy no matter what. >>266245719 Those bits were the worst.
>the fight on taris with the sith that stuns your friends
To be honest though I think it's hard to imagine this game going purely blaster since so many things can just whip out a sword and whack you with it.
>>266245545 Luke indeed becomes powerful after the events of the movies. He even passes up Palpatine in power level. But I don't think he ever reached Chosen One level strength like Anakin was supposed to become.
A secret technique mastered only by Obi Wan, and known in whispers of fear by the rest of the galaxy.
Only Obi Wan could master attacking from the High ground, and only Obi Wan could master attacking an opponent on the high ground.
Notice in the originals, Darth Vader made sure to attack Obi Wan on perfectly flat ground, despite the fact that he probably could have attacked him anywhere on the station.
Notice that in Empire, when Vader forces Luke down the stairs, he doesn't attack from a high point, he makes sure to get even with him. Notice how ferocious he was when Luke was on his back, and how quickly he fought to disarm him; he was petrified that Obi Wan had taught him the secret technique of the High Ground. Notice in Jedi, when Luke stands above him on the gantry, he destroys his high position immediately. Notice that when Vader knows he can't go on, he slumps to the ground - He was signalling that he had no hope of winning by giving Luke the High ground, the ultimate weapon against him.
>>266245878 You can be a human being in the first one as well. If you want to go purely light or dark side of course your going to go to the extremes of both sides but you can still be more of a neutral in both games. They both have near the same level of dialogue options.
Kreia was hypocritically atavistic and radical at the same time. She paid lip service to the old sith masters but made extensive use of modern (for her era) techniques and wanted to destroy the force. Despite her rambling about the great power of the past lords they were in fact much less advanced than the kotor era jedi and sith, and though the sith arguably peaked during the tor era empire they did do independently of human sith culture. From the kotor era, the sith regressed until bane at which point they became continually stronger and more subtly influential. The Jedi on the other hand were never truly weak at any point after kotor 2 until the rise of the empire and lord knows they didn't maintain themselves by sheer numbers. Let's be clear here-the greatest of the Jedi, and all of bane's sith by definition amalgamated knowledge in order to grow more powerful. Kreia's knowledge was far from lost, it was horded. Any of the great Jedi of the clone wars era would've known of it, and certainly sidious would've. They would not be as susceptible to it as vrook, zez Kai ell and kavar were. And going off of the idea that she'd defeat them by manipulation, I don't think it's too unsafe to say that sidious has a record of influence that more than rivals anything Kreia's ever done
>>266246692 >Kreia was hypocritically atavistic and radical at the same time. She paid lip service to the old sith masters but made extensive use of modern (for her era) techniques and wanted to destroy the force. How is she gonna do that: vaccinate everyone against midichlorians?
>>266235853 >bane >inventor of the infamous 'rule of two' that is the most fucking ludicrous bullshit created for the sole purpose of giving unnecessary reasons for why there are only 2 sith lords in the movies.
this is his whole purpose in existing contrived is the best word to describe this bullshit.
>>266244220 >Like builds really matter when the games become piss easy halfway through. Are you actually complaining that you can make an OP character? To me, that's the mark of a good RPG. I love to elevate someone from Bumblebee tier to Prime tier.
>>266247273 >contrived is the best word to describe this bullshit.
There are so many holes in that concept that I find it difficult to begin
>accident kills both of them >master can't find a worthy apprentice before he gets decrepit >master decides "you know what, fuck getting an apprentice, I enjoy living" >apprentice fucks off with enough knowledge of the force to get by >master and apprentice kill each other >master settles for a bad apprentice, who gets lucky and starts a cycle of slowly worsening Sith >Jedi luck out and catch both of them
etc Whoever thought it up was plain retarded, and by that I mean the author.
>>266247495 Not him kotor 2 is my favorite single player game ever but I don't think that's a good thing. It takes away from any sort of triumphant feeling when you've been stomping everything for the last 39 hours and the narrative suffers too
>>266247556 Connection to Kreia and contrive for game mechanics
>>266247516 Atris says it to you in a case you haven't figured it out yet. The best lies contain nuggets of truth and Kreia proves herself to be unbelievably obsessed with self reliance throughout the game, the force is antithetical to that. Also the scene with the disciple and Kreia and the galaxy map
>>266247556 Exile was too strong before Malachor. Exile get depressed because lot of death. Slowly degenerate while wandering galaxy. Finally become almost human. Only then was Exile able to encounter a challenge, something that made his survival instinct kick in. That's how I see it, anyway.
>>266247184 >I restarted when i realized i would one-shot every enemy from then on. I find that exhilarating. It's like when Obi Wan almost got rekt by Jango Fett, but Mace Windu just walked up to him and beheaded him in one move.
>>266247871 >depressed Are you kidding? The Exile had a natural aptitude for creating force bonds. When all the Jedi he served with died when the mass shadow generator was activated, the ripple effect of those deaths flowed through the bonds back into him, and would have killed him if he hadn't cut himself off from the Force
>>266248634 The end + a bunch of other shit that was cut because it was actually trash.
I'm glad the mod got made and everything but there are so many unnessecary additional lines, scenes and fight sequences that do nothing more than cripple the pacing of the game that it's arguably not even worth it. The ending is still noticably lacking and the only really good thing to come out of it was the HK factory, which had already been restored for years.
>>266245304 Bane is actually a part of canon. He was thought up by Lucas for the backstory for Episode I -not mentioned in the movie I don't think, but he is mentioned in the novelization which is still canon - and he's also in The Clone Wars Season 6 arc with Yoda.
If you start as a high dex and wis consular then go watchman/assassin you can pretty much always land stun attacks and sneak attack damage gets applied to stunned targets, it's a lot of fun if you're a gunslinger character.
>>266242972 I never brought her along on most trips because I got so fucking sick of her asinine lectures. Yeah, I get it, be practical and cautious in what you give of yourself, and make sure it isn't done so wastefully. It's not MY fucking fault the dumbass you serve as a mouthpiece didn't write me any options to be smart about my good deeds, and it sure as hell doesn't mean I'm gonna start being an asshole just because you want to pretend that's the only choice.
I consider her the villain more than a crew member. Though villain's not quite the right word. Antagonist/Opponent, you get what I mean.
>>266249165 Actually, he didn't. You'll notice in the game that it was already coming down to the planet, it wasn't in some stationary orbit.
In the comic and book, it's both heavily damaged, not fully operational, and falling. All he did was change the angle it was falling at, and the effort required to do so nearly killed him - and then he only survived the actual impact by sheer strength of plot armor.
>>266249756 You missed a lot, then, unfortunately. The lectures when you do things smart are fucking sweet. There are tons of options to go beyond "kill" and "give him all my money", if you are a little more cautious with your choices. Also, these are very rarely obvious. It took until my third playthrough before I even found one.
>>266250478 They can. In fact, one Star Destroyer's famous for landing directly on top of a crowd of protesters and killing them all. You've gotten Star Wars and Star Trek confused. Federation ships can't enter atmospheres usually.
I wonder why nobody else used the force to control lightsabers
it seems like a perfect technique for old masters like Yoda, imagine if he, instead of jumping around like a maniac during the prequels had just calmly sat down in the middle of a battlefield, started meditating and just had his surroundings fight for him
>>266250478 The reason is M-M-M-MAGIC. As other anon said, you're confused with Star Trek, where they try to be a little realistic. Something that big would need ridiculous amounts of energy to move in a planet's gravity well, and would need to be made of super-duper retard strength material to not be torn apart doing so.
>>266250478 Star Destroyers (well, their predecessors) are shown on Coruscant's surface in Attack of the Clones (at the end when they're picking up the clone army), several times they enter the atmosphere in TCW (though I don't remember if we ever saw a landing or just upper-atmosphere encounters), and a Star Destroyer is in the atmosphere of Lothal in the very first episode of Star Wars Rebels.
>>266251098 nope it is explicitly said that Sith and Jedi HAVE to use the Force otherwise their lightsabers would be their undoing, thats also the main reason why you dont see Non-Force users wielding Lightsabers
>>266250975 the material strenght wouldn't be to big an issue considering they could make a material strong enough to keep the friggin deathstar together
and sometimes having ships pull impossible stunts makes for awesome suspense, pic related was a good example. A risky unheard of maneuver that ended up having major effects on the structural integrity of the ship which became a plot point
>>266251238 Bobba Fet managed to wield one in combat and Han could use it to slice open that arctic riding chicken its just the force enhanced reactions that are necessary not direct manipulation with the force
>>266251238 What about Grievous? I'm sure I don't know much about him, but I don't recall him ever using any powers. Although, droidic super-computing, maybe? Also, in the Kotor games I think some Mandalorians mention collecting them.
Sidious should have never used a lightsaber at any time, would have made him a much powerful character if he simply didn't need to resort to any form of weapon
and having him use the force to disable the lightsabers of his opponents would have been an interesting and shocking maneuver. Imagine that scene where the Jedi storm into his office, grab their lightsabers and they fail to work because Sidious preemptively disabled them
>>266251496 Grievous wasn't Force sensitive. He was trained by Dooku and yeah, he had the microprocessors or whatever to help him. But he was still told by Dooku to emphasize sneak attacks and wearing his opponents down before he attacks openly because if he went up against a true master he'd be rekt right away.
Like that infamous scene in Genndy's show where they introduced him, he won there because those Jedi were all tired and wounded from a prolonged battle.
>>266251336 Why did Galactica have to suck shit the final season? It was going so good... then MAGIC SUPER BABY SHE IS THE CHOSEN ONE WHICH WILL HERALD THE NEW ERA OF TIMES TO COME, MUH PROPHESY, JESUS ANGEL MAGIC IN SPACEEE!!!
>>266252315 even then Sidious is shown to be an extremely powerful yet subtle sith lord what better way to demonstrate this than to have him destroy the most famous symbol of not only the Jedi but the entire Star Wars franchise as well would have even made their swift defeat make sense: lightsabers being taken out is just something that's not done, they're completely shocked by it, lose their concentration for a split second and Sidious abuses this to shoot them full of force lightning they can't block because no sabers
the only reason Mace Windu survives is because unlike other Jedi he carries backup sabers all the time which would be completely in line with his character and status
>>266252604 As in force user build. Yeah there are massed produce lightsabers, light foils, but they are considered less powerful than a force made lightsaber. But mostly it's the force crystals which are main part of a lightsaber.
>>266252604 >As in, only a force user can even activate it
Some Jedi and Sith build their lightsabers with the activation switch on the inside so it can't be activated by non-Force-users.
>Or only a force user could build it?
Old canon had it be that it required a degree of Force sensitivity to build a lightsaber because REASONS (really, the crystal within the lightsaber had to be aligned perfectly on a molecular level not achievable by hand otherwise or by even by machine; if the crystal wasn't aligned right you basically just made a pipe bomb that explodes the second you activate it).
New canon keeps the whole build lightsaber with the Force but no mention of exploding if put together badly, and adds that the crystals have to be attuned to the user (see The Clone Wars, season 5 Younglings arc).
>>266254418 it was supposed to be a vibrosword originally but Lucas didn't want people seeing a lightsaber go against one because it would make lightsabers look weak or some shit so they changed it to a darksaber
>>266235465 And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Madara. I’m talking about Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan and with rikidou techniques, his Gunbai, a Perfect Susano’o and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he also has mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release ninjutsu.
>>266236582 Anything by Timothy Zahn >Thrawn trilogy >The Hand of Thrawn duology >Outbound Flight >Etc.
X-Wing books, particularly the Wraith Squadron ones by Aaron Allston (RIP) though Michael J Stackpole's Rogue Squadon books are decent read too
Anything by Matt Stover >The Episode III novelization >Shatterpoint >Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor >Etc.
Anything by James Luceno >The Rise of Darth Vader >Darth Plagueis >Etc.
A decent portion of the New Jedi Order (has some particularly strong books and in my own humble opinion doesn't really have any particularly bad entries) My particular favorites are >Vector Prime >Dark Tide Onslaught/Ruin (Michael J Stackpole) >Agents of Chaos Hero's Trial/Jedi Eclipse (James Luceno) >Star by Star (the only good SW book Troy Denning has done) >Enemy Lines Rebel Dream/Rebel Stand (Aaron Allston) >Traitor (Matt Stover) >The Unifying Force (James Luceno)
Miscellaneous >The Truce at Bakura >The Han Solo trilogy >The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy >Millennium Falcon (save it for after the NJO)
My personal reading order would be
>Thrawn trilogy >X-wing series >Hand of Thrawn duology >The New Jedi Order Insert misc. stuff like Episode III/Rise of Darth Vader/Shatterpoint/etc. wherever you like
And after that if you're feeling really masochistic you can stumble through the steaming pool of bullshit that is Legacy of the Force, and the somewhat more decent but still never excellent series that is Fate of the Jedi.
The Jedi order are founded on the idea that emotions shouldn't be controlled they should be repressed.
Their main temple was located in one of the largest, most crime riddled planets in the galaxy.
The entire order, with literally tens of thousands of years of leadership experience just in the elder council, was completely duped by a single guy in his mid 40s.
The Jedi are not wise. The Jedi is that crazy old wizard you see in every DnD campaign. The town sorta does what he says because he could shoot fire at two or three of them and they don't have anyone better to listen to.
>>266252807 I'd like to see him block the saber with his bare hands, with a similar effect to Yoda's blocking lightning. Maybe he'd even do it to Windu's final strike as he was 'helpless' on the floor. Then Anakin could come in, distract Windu, and Palpatine could act all helpless.
>The look on Windu's face when he realises how manipulative this guy really is. >As if George would ever allow such acting.
>>266246419 >Obi-Wan's first appearance >Unarmed, alone, non-threatening, and doesn't make a noise >The sand people scamper immediately like little bitches >Because he got the high ground Everything is explained.
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