Since female nudity in games is no longer a big deal, when will male nudity stop being taboo?
It's an edit, in the previous strip he boasted he likes his women like his videogames. The joke is Erin is hiding in his fridge to keep making such witticisms.
The edit added bruising to make it look like she's been forcibly imprisoned in there, or something.
1. Women don't play games
2. Even if they did play games Women don't get turned on by polygon dongs because their brains require different sexual stimulus than men
3.even if videogames had nude men women still wouldn't buy them
Who said anything about those hags?
I want that sweet male frontal-nudity all for me.
I almost thought this was a Green Lantern fridge reference. So I gather she's jealous? This tangent is just creepy.
I think they missed the point of Vivian entirely. She's ironic because she symbolically stands for apathy towards game politics while being the product of that very thing. Her character is indifferent to message oriented characters, games and symbols while being one herself. She's more representative of pure hedonistic, escapism and her gender is incidental.
She cannot be a mouth piece on specific issues because that's inherently contradictory to the character. Erin on the other hand is precisely what they think she is. She's a female prop for 2 men to voice their opinions through. I don't think that matters in discussion so long as they don't try to leverage the character's gender in an argument.
I guess he's done commenting on that now. But he's an idiot so I give him a week until he does it again.
EA made giant Satan dong in Dantes: Inferno this amongst other things like decent art direction & gameplay makes me want to pick up one from the bin.
>Women don't play games
>shows statistics from console for manchildren to "prove" his point
Women play games.
Mobile, social etc.
Just because they didn't bought your nostalgia-franchise box doesn't mean they don't.
I'm not gonna fucking save this shitty comic, so deal with its origin
I am fucking mad. I am outraged. Were WE really the best generation of video game players?
Us 20-25 year old fuckers that grow up from the sega Genesis up to the fucking gamecube in our teens?
Fuck these god damn free to play addicting games making new generations play shit. Video games changed from a new exploring industry to a giant greedy soulless fucking cash cow.
They found what makes money and just catered to that shit.
I really fucking hope a crash happens. But if it does happen. THE SHITTY IOS AND APPLE MARKET WOULD NOT BE AFFECTED BY A CRASH.
Tom Preston doesn't seem to understand that there is a pretty distinct difference between self deprecating humor and using some very poor deflection tactics to try and mask one's insecurities. He tries so damn hard to prove that he doesn't give a shit that you can tell he cries himself to sleep when people make fun of him.
>misrepresenting a fictional video game character
That isn't even half of why those comics were so stupid and made no sense. DeviantArt and Dobson's mind are worlds unto themselves.
>Tom Preston puts out a shitty webcoming complaining about Vivian
>within like an hour, another artist draws a comic making fun of him, and it actually has decent art
The internet is a wonderful place sometimes.
>The edit added bruising to make it look like she's been forcibly imprisoned in there, or something.
You are stupid. Those dark patches are indicators that she's been in the fridge for too fucking long.
I remember when the other comic came out I said that the girl insert obviously had feelings for him and was just jealous she wasn't getting the attention. People told me I was projecting or something and that true friends do that (true friends let you fail horribly and then laugh at you).
Well, I guess that settles it, bitch was just jealous.
These people are so stodgy in their ways of thinking. They grew up with actual female oppression. We don't have this anymore, few if any modern humans age 25 and under see any real difference between men and women unless it's physical or having to deal with romantic emotion. When they heard 4chan, they immediately went into attack mode before giving any sincere thought into the many, many, ideas proposed that vivian should stand for. In the end, they'll never listen because they're "better/smarter/more understanding" people than the dregs on 4chan.
there is no such thing as "actual female opression" suffrage was a scheme to massively increase the spending of the average household and move more money into the government and corporations
Its like when charities and stuff get harrassed for accepting money from porn sites and 4chan.
makes no fucking sense
>better not accept this money that might save a persons life because the people who sent it said some mean things to a girl
>Erin on the other hand is precisely what they think she is. She's a female prop for 2 men to voice their opinions through.
I never understood why people say this so much. Probably like 1%, maybe even less, of Critical Miss strips have anything to do with gender politics. The rest are just standard "video game was good/bad" jokes that all game comics make. Are you just not allowed to express opinions if your character is the opposite gender as you? Most books carry a message and have characters that are not like the authors, even if the message is more subtle than the average webcomic.
Really when you guys complain about Erin being a "mouthpiece" for the authors to validate their opinions, I can't help but compare it to saying something like "HOW WOULD GEORGE ORWELL KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CENSORSHIP, HE DIDN'T REALLY LIVE IN THE FUTURE"
Can we look at facts here. If something is dominated by adults, is it really "a kid's thing"? I mean common sense would dictate that Xbox is for kids since more kids play that.
>upset that faggits are saying women don't play games
>accuse an entire group of completwly innocent and neutral people of being manchildren
Irony man, when will you guys learn?
sadpanda is for comics, paheal is for pics of obscure characters that would be hard to find otherwise
If you want to miss out on fapping to her it's your loss
comic is Critical Miss, character is Erin Stout
I've yet to see a vagina in-game yet dicks have been around for some time. Not that any "journalist" will bat an eye over this. Women are entitled to masturbate over male characters, but woah, quickly censor those panty shots, Nintendo, or else someone will see Peach's panties.
>Masturbating to rotting zombies
Okay who am I kidding? Who the fuck among you vagfags actually did that, and don't you dare back out now because I know some of you did?
Yes, anon, I want to fap.
Well now he doesn't have any material.
I read this one first before the original. Implying that ineptitude of the development team is caused by them being broken and out of touch with normal human expectations is way better than deliberate malice.
Its more like they don't understand what 4chan is or how the anonymity of the internet works. People who only use social media don't understand the older origins of the internet and how games and gamers embraced an understanding of how a fantasy space and the veil of anonymity combined with the new agency of a website or game allows for endless possibilities that are totally insulated from real world consequences.
Ask a furry what the internet for and they'll tell you its a place where who you are and what you do doesn't mean anything irl. Ask a journalist or internet personality what its for and they'll tell you its a place to set up shop and promote yourself. People who want games to be more than they are and have real world impacts don't realize how inoculated the culture is to any influence.
Some day someone will make something that is literally just a goddamn dick mons-
Did you read the part where I said:
>I don't think that matters in discussion so long as they don't try to leverage the character's gender in an argument
My issue is with the fact that they made a shallow comparison between the two female characters when they aren't conceptually similar for the reasons I stated.
For a moment there, I thought we were going to figure out what a feminine dick looked like.
Like a RPG boss.
this guy for one jerks it zombies
>he doesn't want to see dicks
What are you, stupid? Dicks are the best.
Not really, execution is the only thing that matters, and some jokes cannot be explained in 4 frames and 4 sentences. Or sometimes it's not even jokes but a short story with a pun in it.
So THAT's what this thing is.
>Geiger's Xenomorphs are dicks
>There are pictures of female Xenomorphs
Therefor, If I masturbate to a female Xenomorph, I'm masturbating to a feminine dick.
>If vivian is /v/ personified
She's not. She's constantly drawn as a separate character.
The one thing she shares with /v/ is
Nigga that game is glorious when you play it with friends in the same room.
>Bro suggests it.
>Five minutes later we tore off our shirts and were yelling war cries like mad men.
No one wants nudity in games. It serves no purpose.
The "story" is that /v/ and Neo/v/ became indistinguishable to moot, so /v/ let moot hit him the hammer as everything was over between them. That design is called "Punished /v/".
yes it's autistic.
that game was surprisingly well done
Why is this allowed ?
I've been banned twice already for asking people not to post tumblr drawings in videogames threads.
I know, this is not video games either but this thread was always destined for shitposting.
>implying i won't get banned for this
Its not even that. That persona is what feeds him. The more he acts like a retard, the more controversy he stirs, and with that he manages to stay relevant. He might not even mean what he says in the comics, being a faggot is what he does to earn his beans, he's a showman.
People kept pointing out that he draws himself with way more hair on his head than he actually has, so he went all whiny overboard and drew himself as a blue bear as a way of saying, "I can draw myself however I want!"
>3.even if videogames had nude men women still wouldn't buy them
Who cares about women. I want those nude men in vidya.
>Nobody wants to see dicks. They're ugly to both genders.
No, dicks are beautiful and I want them. All of them.
A Pokemon-like game where you gotta catch 'em all would be nice.
>tfw non-hetero men are less than 70% of the vidya market targets
>less than 95% if we're talking about mainstream casual shit
If we're going to get it, it will be some tiny indie with tiny budget and thus mediocre graphics.
And slavs are sexually plebs and children, so no slav magic here.
>counter feminism by delivering exactly what real feminism is all about
That's some deep shit there.
what excuse? 4chan is hardly a secret place and chanology faggotry lures more people in.
They came, they followed their SJW hype train, did their shit and when winter came they left.
Thats all there is to it. After that its busyness as usual.
>Makes it all okay
There was nothing to make okay, because nothing wrong was done in the first place. The hashtag exists to combat claims of "No one could ever be on your side because you're you're lonely white guys who are offended by minorities and women."
Do you know that episode of spiderman where a different hero goes and steals spiderman's deeds so that spiderman couldn't be the hero anymore, thus making him go depressed and quit heroics completely?
And then that guy starts robbing banks.
Basically that. Do what feminists want to do for real, because the spastic modern manhaters that call themselves feminists nowadays just won't. It would both achieve making them completely pissed and also remove them of purpose, and frankly more women in vidya = more waifus and faps.
Or at least that was the plan, but we all know there's no organized effort in this place.
It was funny to watch /v/ last month.
I love the faggots that complain about Atheism+ while also ignoring the rise of New Atheism as a movement to make Atheists appear to be blithering, racist retards. Faggots like Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens etc who have all gone far off the deep end while dragging Atheists with them. You can't argue against Atheism+ if you are not willing to argue against New Atheism as well.
The mods are pretty spotty on bans. I got banned for posting tolberone Lighting in a FF13 thread when there was actual porn posted.
>not masturbating to those sexy lips of
lol what are you, a fucking faggot
I thought Dobson stopped using the blue bear and started using a nerdy woman with her friend skrillex-hair lesbian?
What? You mean seeing the occasional titty in the easten european games? Because men have been shirtless in games since the 80s.
You'll get dongs when I get horribly rendered bearded axe wounds.
Oh he still does that, he just goes back into blue bear mode when someone insults his work. Remember the Dobson cycle, one comic making a joke, three comics defending himself from criticism by calling his critics evil, three more comics just to apologize for the last three.
This logic is stupid because if /v/ really believed that they wouldn't have the right to complain about anything.
Didn't like Mass Effect 3? Why don't you go make your own AAA Space Opera trilogy with an ending more to your liking, faggot.
the same people that brought me dynasty warriors made tokimeki memorial. at least arino made it fun to watch.
Apples and oranges. Criticizing something based on your personal opinion and taste is different than claiming structural racism/bigotry/etc and demand to change everything according to your personal worldview. Also: It's never about gameplay for these people but representation and other idiotic ideas.
Criticizing content and quality are two different things.
One is "This game is poorly written, despite being based on choices, across three games, your ending amounts to a vague change depending on one final choice and nothing else."
The other is "I don't like that this game is set in space."
>game has extras with a few dev diaries
>they have one entirely dedicates to Satan's dong and they developed the perfect dong flapping algorithm and how the system is dynamic, meaning they could make his dong any size and girth
>they proceed to show you several different dong settings
>that one where it drags on the ground even when he flies
Has your country landed on any celestial body? Oh wait, only the USA has successfully conducted a manned missions to the moon.
Here's an artists recreation of you missing the point.
Well, we might agree that art critics in general tend to be a waste of space and oxygen. But games have mechanics which can criticized more objectively than the content of a movie or a book.
Yes, they usually don't amount to complaining that a movie doesn't offer exactly what they want. See the difference between criticism and an opinion is that a critic understands what makes something GOOD. There is a definition for what good camera work entails. The things SJWs complain about aren't related to the quality, they complain that something exists that doesn't exist to be enjoyed by them.
Also movies aren't games, our critics and industry share a different relationship than even Ebert shared with big budget hollywood.
>But games have mechanics which can criticized more objectively than the content of a movie or a book.
You're literally autistic if you think anything can be truly objectively criticized. Let's take for example fighting games: A person new to fighting games is going to have an entirely different experience compared to a veteran especially in regards to advanced mechanics they may find. And you know what? Both OPINIONS can be valid, and if you noticed preference for fighting games can vary wildly among pros. The only people that claim games can truly be objectively criticized are autistic, inbred faggots.
>There is a definition for what good camera work entails
David Lynch. Or any film that eschews normal camera 'rules' employed by hollywood films such as the 180 degree rule. You're fucking stupid.
It's an argument that NEEDS TO BE MADE because people are so fucking stupid that they think games have objective elements. If it was true, then you wouldn't have faggots disagreeing about DmC being bad or Brawl being shit.
That was the most ridicoulus thing about the comic
The joke was almost-completely unrelated to the premise
When asked what was the joke, Dobson actually pointed out it was the pun
>B-but it's all relative, anon.
>And also fuck you.
Hmm, I see.
what does it mean?
There are objective things.
Plot holes, retconing, bugs, inconsistent writing, bad controls...
Most things in vidya are subjective and asking for a objective review is stupid, but so is saying that everything is subjective.
seems about right.
Wrong, In Link's Awakening, the final "dungeon" is just the same repeating four-exit room, a la Lost Woods. The only way to know which way to go was completing the trade chain and reading a book with the directions.
Or buy a mag or strategy guide that had it.
She is but neither /v/ nor people outside of it give the slightest shit about the game or even know about it as well as they do about generally why she was made and what she stands for on this community and this gg shit in general.
The argument made there is absolutely fucking moronic.
No, it wasn't objectively bad. I fucking hated the ending too, but you absolutely cannot claim it is objectively bad. When you claim something is objectively bad like that, you're putting a big, flashing neon sign on you that says 'I am a fucking retard and have no clue how to properly analyze things outside of calling it objectively bad, please ignore my opinion'.
People enjoy mocking him, and I guess he's friends with Movieblob or something.
What, the argument that this is what the character is? Well, vivian IS that, it doesn't matter what the character is perceived as, it IS that and if anyone would take two seconds to look, they would find that Vivian is just a fucking video game character.
And you are a fucktard that doesn't even understand what the word means while pretending that you totally do with an air of false superiority. Not to mention you're completely incapable of grasping how language works in general.
Subjective, you may of missed shit that filled in a plot hole. See: Dark Souls
Subjective, not all retconning is bad. See: the original Sherlock Holmes series of books.
Subjective, provided they don't crash the game. See: fighting games
Subjective, could be intentional or you missed something. See: Dark Souls, Deadly Premonition
Subjective. Fighting games are non-intuitive to new players, but are fine for vets. Could be seen as bad.
The argument that she is not a mascot when in every sense she is, with her being a vidya character being nothing more than a secondary function that nobody gives a shit about and not something she is relevant for at all.
>So I gather she's jealous?
No, she's desperate for attention and thinks she's being funny. The idea is that she's an autistic gamer girl and thus doesn't know when to drop something or when a joke is way past dead and when she's just being annoying in her attempts at getting approval and attention from her peers.
>you may have missed
If a plot hole has nothing to fill it, it is objectively bad
>not all retconning is bad
Yes, it is. Especially so when it is sloppoily done
>subjective, provided they don't crash the game
All bugs are bad. Quirks of the engine aren't bugs, they are "Features".
>inconsistent writing could be intentional or you missed something
If it is intentional, then you are intentionally writing poorly. f the player missed something, then it IS subjectiv3e but what if there is nothing to miss?
Objective. There are certain control setups that would make sense to neither vets nor newcomers.
But I've yet to see a vagina in games. If you're talking about breasts, than men actually spend more time baste chested than ladies in fiction. Ass is about 50/50. But if you want a guy to show some penis, you gotta show some vag. It's only fair.
Why is 'Erin Stout' literally just Ema Skye?
>Subjective, you may of missed shit that filled in a plot hole. See: Dark Souls
If something filled it, then it's not a plot hole you dingus. I'm talking about plot holes. They are bad, period.
>Subjective, not all retconning is bad.
It's bad because the writing is bad, it couldn't manage to fit with the previous establishes story.
>Subjective, provided they don't crash the game. See: fighting games
>provided they don't crash the game
Therefore they aren't subjective but objective.
>Subjective, could be intentional or you missed something.
No I didn't miss anything. Lucy has brown hair now, Lucy is a guy with pink hair now without any actual change happening in between. It's inconsistent writing.
It's not. FPS with a controller is bad controls, objectively. The fact that the developer literally need to add an aim hack to the game to make it even playable is all the proof needed that it's shit.
>Objective. There are certain control setups that would make sense to neither vets nor newcomers.
Nigga all I know is the reason Dead risings shooting sucked ass was because Frank West wasn't a soldier, so he sucked dick with guns, it would make sense to make the shooting controls wonky so that you'd have to learn it, like he's learning how to shoot guns/
Yes exactly, if a writer must resort to destroying past work then they lacked foresight in writing it. They took the story in a direction that they themselves constrained it from going.
Shooting with a controller in general is fucking terrible controls.
Also Frank had covered wars. Y'know. Honestly they could have fixed it by just limiting the swivel speed. I doubt Frank's inexperience makes him swing around drunkenly when aiming.
I don't wanted naked men in my video games, but I do want objectified men in skimpy costumes.
I think it makes sense.
Not even that guy, but you don't make a fucking game, with shooting, that has the same controls as every other shooter if your MC has never shot a gun before, because it makes no sense that a player like me can just go in and make the guy a killing machine before he's ever used a gun.
Oh and I'm not that guy.
I just wanted to point something out.
I'm no lady.
I find the tease more attractive than the reveal
>Republicans free slaves
>Republicans enter civil rights
>Republicans make it illegal to fire someone or not hire them if they are black
>Democrats fight against all of these
>Democrats start the KKK
>BUT DA EVIL REPUBLICANS ARE RACIST JON STEWART TOLD ME SO!
Around the same time shota nudity stops being taboo.
It doesn't matter what you think, as the player your experience transfers directly onto the player character. Just like every military shooter has you start out inexperienced, explaining your terrible aim, it has you end as a veteran. The controls must allow growth not put a cap on it.
This exact same scene but with 2 women
>"Outlast represents women as crazy violent naked people"
>"Sexist game 'Outlast' shows what's wrong with western civilization"
>"THEY WOULDN'T SHOW MEN LIKE THIS WHY DON'T THEY SHOW US ANY RESPECT."
I've been banned for posting SFW Ryona in a thread full of naked trannies. I even reported them all, and yet I was the one that got banned whilst they were just left there. I've also managed to shit up a thread with low quality bait and got half of the thread deleted without so much as a warning. Shit happens, and I've found that the 1600 to 2200 (GMT) mods are the absolute worst when it comes to this shit. If you actually want to have a decent discussion you're better off doing it during NEET hours when the Australians are asleep, and the kids are in school.
Learning controls is growth, making them the same only makes it seem like he's a veteran already.
It's not growth when I've played shooters for years and years and years and, SURPRISE! Same controls but somehow you're the badass rookie that can kill everything on KILL YOU difficulty.
It makes no sense, one of the reasons I didn't like farcry 3.
>inb4 that fucking /cgl/ thread gets posted.
It's enough to make a man gay.
I don't trust anyone who says "I'm not that guy" twice in the same post and then writes like that guy and agrees with that guy.
Also your explanation fails when you realize that there is no growth in the aiming. He controls are shit, okay, he doesn't know how to use a gun. Then why don't the controls improve by the end of the game where he used the gun more than the whole American army since the beginning of time?
If they intentionally made it bad, it would improve with time. If they intentionally made it that way it would imply they are aware that the controls are bad, that the reason is the PC is inexperienced, but it would also imply that they will improve with the progression the game since he gains experience.
That didn't happen, therefore they weren't aware that the controls are shit, meaning they didn't do it intentionally.
Now, you can rationalize it all you want, but THAT would be your subjective opinion. The controls being bad would be the objective fact.
That right there is what I'm talking about
Why not make it so that your sensitivity is capped somewhere until you get X amount of kills
Or you're inverted X axis until X amount of kills and inverted Y until Y amount of kills, turning you into a killing machine LATER because he's learning to kill, not already a fucking master human hunter.
Might be an interesting mechanic, but that doesn't excuse objectively shitty control layouts. Exploring the controller and how to force inexperience on an experienced player? Fine, that's part of your game. Making your controls so awful that you cannot precisely master them, a'la skyward sword? Fuck that,
I forgot I wrote I'm not that guy, jesus.
Also, that's what I suggested seconds after your post big boy.
I could easily headshot everything by the time I was like a third into the game.
I can understand retconning if the original material is kinda shit in some regards. Like if a new elder scrolls game changed some of the lore of somewhere to fit it, then that could work. I mean, you don't want to entirely use the backstory for a mediocre game made in the 90's, right?
Except it did happen.
Why was Raiden a normal, well-adjusted soldier (or at least as well-adjusted as Green Berets get), why did he become PYSD-ridden, wife-beating, alcoholic after the game ended?
>Moot and SJWer mods ban all discussion of gamer gate.
>Dobson continues to make comics on gamer gate which allows for a not so subtle way for /v/ to keep talking about it.
The guy doesn't realize it, but he's a hero for keeping this thing alive on /v/ since just about everyone else has been Mac address banned by now.
I would love if Blizzard retconned all the shit they did with WoW and made Warcraft 4 that begins where 3 ended.
But that doesn't excuse them having idiotic writer who wrote themselves into a corner and needed to retcon.
>Not liking tumblr shit in /v/ is bad