I never asked for this.
What tech so far featured only in games you want to become real.
>there are people on this board who learned nothing from Deus Ex and would give parts of their body up for augs
Giant robots, of course. What kind of soulless bastard doesn't want giant robots?
>tfw ever since FMA I wouldn't mind a robot arm
Our ELECTRONIC OLD MEN and their...FLEXIBILITY.
guys its a slippery slope pls dont do this
I find this man alot more impressive.
Why aren't you an undergraduate at MIT, working for this man?
Make room, we already have the real-life Sarif.
That guy is amazing
I want to be a pretty 300lb girl
>There are people on this board who do not want cyberlegs
I'd gladly accept mechanical augmentation as the immediate future of our species.
Today, mechanical, tomorrow, nanotech. Son nwe will all be 300 years old, living an extended and healthy life as electronic old men.
>there are people on this board who don't understand the ramifications of cybernetics
I've got a permenantly fucked up knee that I'd trade for an aug pretty quickly myself.
I live very near Hopkins (and belong to their credit union) and the stuff they do there is ridiculous. When people talk about America having the best hospitals in the world, that's the shit they are talking about. Its horribly misleading, because we are like 17th in the developed world for actual community hospitals, but for the research ones? Absolute top.
>you were born too late to become FUCKING INVINCIBLE
>He doesn't praise the Omnissiah
>giving up one or two limbs for replacements
>not waiting for GitS levels of technology
Shiggly diggly guys come on.
Why the fuck would i not replace my eyes? I can't see shit without my glasses, everything get extremely blurry and unfocused.. So they are useless without glasses or contact lenses
>Giving up parts of their body
That's not augmentation, it's replacement. To me, augmentation is adding something to your body to improve it.
Anyway, just changing arms or legs wouldn't do anything. That's not how the human body works. We can only be as strong as the weakest part of the chain of parts in a movement. Like having a robo arm wouldn't let you punch harder than your human shoulders, back, spine, core, hips and legs can handle.
It's an all or nothing affair. Either you replace the whole body, or you do add things to it. Or you replace broken parts with parts that will do the same thing.
Honestly I'd rather just go with a multi-body. Spread your consciousness across multiple bodies. Be good for any situation. Multi task like a god.
I'm generally a supporter of it, but the biggest problem with it is basically this.
What happens when you have a piece of cybernetics in you that has become an absolute requirement for your continuing living, such as a heart, and only one company can do the maintenance on it? Who foots that bill? What happens if that company suddenly goes under? What happens if you are brought into a hospital unconscious after a car accident and the life-saving surgery required to keep you alive involves installing a piece of cyberware? The hippocratic oath (and federal law) requires doctors in ER's to take any measure necessary to save a life - if its the only way they WILL do that piece of surgery unless you have a specific statement in your will or other legal document telling them not to. So you now have a part you are going to owe money on for a long, long time to a company that has to maintain it, but you didn't sign up for it. This happens now days too, but the human body is relatively self sufficient, if you run out on a doctor bill right now you don't necessarily have this machine inside you that would require regular maintenance.
Once we are talking about full on Ghost In the Shell style brain interface level tech, you start having all kinds of legal problems with tampering, perception vs reality, and where the human ends and the machine begins.
>People who view themselves as superior tend to wipe out the inferior
Down with White privilege!
>Potential for governmental tampering and misuse
The NSA is evil!
>Obvious room for abuse via corporations
Sell your soul to Google goyim!
On a more serious note, I'm okay with living in a cyberpunk world as you just described. Besides, "...the street finds its own uses for things". Its not like we poor proles will be totally helpless.
>dat feel when cyberpunk faded away as a literary genre because our technology got so close to it
Some of those authors would probably shit themselves had they imagined things like smartphones and modern internet features.
>actually wanting to live for 300 years
Fun fact: The tabletop game Shadowrun had a giant version update to change its internet from 80's cyberpunk internet to modern Smartphone style/Watchdogs style internet. And like half its players revolted.
Yeah but that was just gore and 80s over-the-top violence. The resurrected cops killing themselves because they couldn't handle their new "lives" is messed up in all kinds of disturbing ways.
Pain is useful. It is a message that you are sustaining damage. Not having this message is very bad. See Leprosy.
>possibly more degrees of motion
I'd rather do this with an addition than with a replacement. That's what I see as being augmented. You have the base human model and you ADD to it. You don't replace what's already functional with something slightly more functional in some ways, less in others.
True enough. I finally convinced my players to let me GM it after like, a fucking decade, and we've been having lots and lots fun.
But I can totally see where cyberpunk purists would discount it.
>If you come watch videos online of amputy and you don't feel your throat tightening or having tears in your eyes,
>then you're less human than any cyborgs I've ever met
I would turn my body into 90% machine at the cost of having to fight terrorists.
....or would it it be I would fight terrorist at the cost of turning 90% of my body into machine?
That seems like a huge thing to change, but I have very little knowledge of shadowrun outside of its basic premise
Just make a new IP if you want to make a more "realistic" future
I don't see a problem there at all, to be honest. If you do not wish to live on with a piece of technology within yourself for whatever reason, you still have the choice to die afterwards by killing yourself. The only difference would be that you were offered the choice to live or to die, rather than being killed with no choice whatsoever.
Unless you somehow interpret the choice given to you as negative, there's nothing inherently bad about this. And should you actually consider having a choice in that matter a negative thing, you could also sign a legal document (as you mentioned) that will make sure you will not have to make such a choice.
If you're worried that a single company could have a monopoly on some kind of augmentation that can save your life, government regulations or the free market - pick whatever suits your politicial convitions or the status quo of your country - should easily be able to take care of that.
>shitty corrupt government makes you install a patch that censors nudity and sensitive information
>walk around literally with censors inside your head
Every new technology, the first angle I look at it from is "how can the government abuse this?".
But you already have access to a ton of age extension methods. Prime amongst those is a wealth of information about your body the likes of which people of the past could have never fathomed.
Not him but here is a good one:
I read biomedical ethics journals. Early 2014 (maybe late 2013?) there was a really infamous article about genetic enhancements. Now this isn't cybernetics but the upshot is the same so whether it's cybernetic or genetic engineering the conclusion ought to be the same.
In this particle article they argued that you have the moral imperative to eliminate males. Of course they used a lot of data (lot's of it was biased and stupid) and poor anecdotes but their conclusion was that if genetic enhancement were too be judged morally permissible then the logical conclusion that follows is a world full of women. No men at all, not even to reproduce as that can all be done artificially anyway.
So it received a ton of backlash, and is still receiving backlash to this day, but the argument works the same way for all enhancements. For cybernetics the upshot would be a world without humans. That creates an argument from economics for those who can't afford the enhancements and promotes a sort of caste system.
It's an incredibly complex issue and I'm barely even giving you a sampling. Most proponents of genetic and cybernetic enhancements point towards Zoltan Istvan (The Transhmunanist Wager) and Sam Harris (The Moral Landscape) as a sort of base to build off of for the moral consequences of such endeavours.
That doesn't even scratch the surface of AI that it all ultimately get's reduced too, though. As that is the final form past genetics and cybernetics--an exhumed "AI" if you will, of yourself.
>What are those? I want a pair
This is how it starts
I agree that they are fixable problems, I was just saying they are problems that will need fixing in one form or another. A revolution in cybernetics is going to require a giant wave of new regulations from things like insurance companies and drug manufacturers and we have very solid evidence of that kind of sweeping regulation change getting too bogged down in government bodies to get done or be done right.
So like I said: you are right, it SHOULD be easily able to take care of the problems I outlined, but evidence suggests that it won't actually manage to do so easily or efficiently at all.
I've already got that. And it only gets better with age. Experience is the knowledge that it'll always get better and it could always be worst, so take a step back and asses your situation logically instead of as a whiny baby.
So can he feel that arm? I mean it's connected to his nervous system right? If i tore that arm off, would it be extremely painful?
My primary concern would be getting hacked. Nothing is unhackable, but then again if you combine human awareness and intelligence into the system, it could be almost impossible
Yes pain is useful, but not all the time. Whats the point of being in constant pain when you cut a finger off? Sure you dont want to damage you new robo arm but you can replace that with a new one.
> You don't replace what's already functional with something slightly more functional in some ways, less in others.
I believe that with enough r and d we will create supperier limbs than our own
If we get to see good looking anatomically identic augs and prostethics.
Can I get a cyborg girl body? Cause I want that.
Dr. Hugh Herr, why aren't there more women in the neuromechanical limb industry?
Care to mansplain that?
okay anons it seems you really are sheltered neets living in fairylands and you mustve never stepped a foot outside.
what Im about to say can be undertood and comprehended by a fucking sub 70 iq idiot.
you think these are going to be given out for free?
a fucking robo finger is gonna cost millions. You really think you are gonna be able to afford this ?
this is what the new deus ex is gonna be about. the richer are gonna get stronger, smarter , better in every way on top of being rich. everybody under corporate overlord class is gonna be left behind, and eventually get wiped out, that includes all of us here, the only people being able to afford augs would be holywood, bill gates, notch amounts of rich. I have nothing against augmentation if the government made sure everyone got it, but it isnt gonna be so.
there is a reason cyberpunk is always a dystopian setting
Because the heads of the research teams felt more sorry for them
>SJW would unironically ask this if they could.
>We live in a time where there are ordinary people who live with robotic limb replacements
Where were you when you realized its the future?
No, it doesn't give feedback beyond pressure sense. The only thing he could feel through it would be a yes/no on a sliding scale that he was holding something so he can regulate the pressure of the grip and no, for example, explode a coffee mug by trying to pick it up.
Well the argument they made in the article was the the very first genetic enhancement done to any "fetus" (using that term loosely) was to make it female. Of course that would be done before the fetus is even formed. No need to regulate testosterone when there are no men.
The entire idea is completely flawed. Men make war not because they are men. They do it because they are better at it than women. Why would you want to keep men home and send women to war if you KNOW that they'll lose to any men they encounter?
If you eliminate men, then the women best suited for war will handle the war. It won't just go away. Fucking christ these people.
This guy gets it. Unless they are made extremely cheap it will just heighten the disparity between rich and poor even more. Just look at all the healthcare benefits available to affluent people now and multiply that by a billion.
They're veterans, usually. Plenty of young veterans that gets prosthetics too, if they lost a limb on duty.
Just like cars, there will eventually be cheap middle-of-the-road limbs for everyone when they can be mass-produced. Every new piece of technology starts off incredibly expensive and quickly gets cheaper. Cars, computer, televisions, radios, everything. Planes are a different case because they cost a lot of materials and manpower to make and fuel, and a fuckton of infrastructure.
>there is a reason cyberpunk is always a dystopian setting
This has absolutely no bearing on our future, writers can't look into the future, the reason they're usually set in a dystopia is that there is very little that's actually interesting about utopias.
Just because 1984 depicted the year 1984 as a dystopia doesn't mean 1984 was a dystopia because the book said so.
GitS is my favorite anime.
I wanna be a cute cyborg girl like Motoko
or its going to be like every other technology ever and its going to start out expensive and gradually make its way into the household
especially with the advent of 3D printing
It didn't go over well for the researchers. Articles were posted in journals every month calling them out for being dumb. They were from Australia, btw. (U of Sydney if I recall correctly)
But you're not in constant pain when you cut a finger off. You get a flash of pain when it happens, then a dull throbbing after wards, then mostly nothing unless you touch the damaged bit.
I would know, I've lost a finger by being pushed down a shale-stone cliff. Cut the thing right off. The rest of my body was also cut up nicely.
Cut was so sharp they were even able to reattach it. Finger works fine, other than being a bit less flexible than the others and getting colder in winter / not staying warm in gloves.
Even worse. Imagine ads being broadcast directly into your eyeballs. Having to watch fucking Flo from Progressive through closed eyelids as you try to fall asleep. I'd just kill myself.
Its ridiculously unlikely to cost anything like that amount, at least the ones for actual medical replacement. Ghost in the Shell style full body replacement? Ok, yeah, but we're literally a century or more out from something like that.
For any kind of tech to develop, there has to be a market. If only 1% of the population (or less) can afford your product, it is unlikely to be worth the development costs technologically.
A more likely price range to put the things would be somewhere in the range a speed boat, small plane, or luxury car. Something that, with effort and debt management, people in the middle class can generally afford. At least assuming we're talking completely optional replacements.
If we're talking about replacements done because its medically required? No, those will almost certainly be available to anyone through charity if nothing else. That same hospital that is developing these has an insurance program they run that provides absolutely every service and medication they give out for 1 dollar each. I didn't have insurance and went there after having a seizure and they gave me 2 days in the hospital, an MRI, 2 CT scans, and two years worth of epilepsy meds for about 11 dollars. That's the kind of thing that'll apply to poor people that need this stuff.
Well I was only finger-less for maybe an hour or something, so I never had the opportunity to check. But I imagine I would have, since cutting off a limb doesn't rip out all the parts of your nervous system that were in charge of it.
YEAH WE SHOULD BAN CARS BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD THE BEST ONES
You're a fucking retard. Cyberpunk settings are usually dystopian because the people who wrote those books did so specifically to promote their backwards classicism.
The problem with gender roles is that there's more to it than just "men have more physical potential than women", men being seen as the stronger sex has foundations in the very beginnings of human culture and biology. There was very much a time where men had to defend women because they were expendable, one man can impregnate a hundred women at a time but only one woman can be pregnant from a single man at a time, and ontop of that men have an easier time getting /fit/ because of the presence of testosterone. When humanity settled and defending against wild animals wasn't a thing any longer, the culture persisted and men remained in the protector role.
It really isn't a case of men being better at it inherently, it's just that society grooms men to be the expendable ones and women to be the precious ones, the hormonal difference can be overcome through training.
Besides, tech always trickles down. Sure, the early versions will cost a fuck ton, but why would you want them anyway? Wait, and eventually you'll get better for cheaper.
But honestly, I wouldn't trust some store bought augs. I'd have to make my own, following design plans I'd steal from the interbutts.
Right now physical sports are literally no different than e-spurts: arbitrary garbage, a show for simple-minded.
With allowing actual weaponry to be used, sport will finally we back.
They are actually usually dystopian because the theme of them is mostly talking about runaway capitalism utterly free of morality, mixed with runaway technological advancement also free of morality. There is no coincidence that the genre generally arose in the 80's, along with tons of movies that had the same theme.
The Greed is Good generation and all that.
I never lost an appendage so that was a bad example but my point still stands that pain wont be necessary with a prosthetic. Burning, crushing or breaking a robot finger wont leave any permanent damage. Of course you would want to avoid it if you can
How the fuck do you not like flo?
>implying they wouldn't hide it until a large amount of the population had already implemented them into their bodies
>they make a law requiring people to get cybernetic organs
>this is how 1984 truly starts
>gettting proprietary augments
>2011 + 16
It's like you want to be a human data mining machine.
>a law requiring people to get cybernetic organs
Have some imagination. A real fascist regime would implant a nano capsule in children which via radio-control will kill the receiver.
Did you know Fahrenheit 451 was written by Ray Bradbury because he thought TVs were going to destroy the world? That the governmental censorship symbolism was utterly coincidental, and applied by academics after the fact because it made much more sense the actual, retarded meaning behind the novel?
Authors are just that, authors. They know little of the science they write about, much less its implications in economics, society, or government.
>free speech is outlawed in 2027
>you go to prison for triggering a tumblerite
>tyrone has a 27 inch cyborg cock
>How is people shooting eachother any different from current sports? It's just as simple-minded.
At least 99% of everything won't be banned because it's "unfair".
Why can't football players just murder the opposing team and then put the ball in the goal?
They won't have to stop just because they might hurt someone in a setting where hurting is the point.
So basically Gantz?
Are they going to make us fight aliens to earn our freedom in a death game? Because i might be down for that.
The scope of cybernetics is beyond anything else before it. It's not comparable to cars or planes. It's a technology that fundamentally changes the existence of the participant. The assumption is that they will allow the technology to be distributed at a non-prohibitive cost. But then you get into what a prohibitive cost is, really. Since earning over 30k in a year already puts you in the top 1% of the planet basic rudiments are already prohibitively expensive. But that's where the ethical issues comes in: primarily exploitation and caste systems. Just take the animosity between rich and poor in a country like India, Mexico, China (Or heck, even the U.S.) and increase by a factor of 10.
Although I disagree and I think it will be fine going forward to not acknowledge them as very real, and well-founded, concerns moving forward wouldn't be very prudent.
>implying niggers would be able to afford cybernetics
Even if we do live to see mainstream use of cybernetics, I imagine they would be expensive. I hope I never see the day when you can buy robot arms from Walmart
not to be anti-fun, but transhumanism is a lot less interesting when you realize that instead of having a deus ex future where everyone has cyber limbs, it's more akain to having all your organs replaced with artificial ones as you age. For example, my mom has four kidneys, only one of which is her own (one is her brother's, two are artificial). She weighs about 400 pounds and will probably be getting a prototype artificial pancreas too.
mind you, I'm of the opinion that nanomachines/genetic treatments/roids will become more popular before we start replacing limbs with mechanical ones
>WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THIS SHIT
You cannot stop the future
>For example, my mom has four kidneys, only one of which is her own (one is her brother's, two are artificial). She weighs about 400 pounds and will probably be getting a prototype artificial pancreas too.
This is some Judge Dredd shit here.
>people still think cyberpunk is fiction
It's already here man, we are the baby steps.
We've evolved past slow genetic evolution.
It is now cognitive, scientific evolution. We evolve as a society and as a species in conjunction, and we do so through medicine, genetic engineering and prostethics.
It's part of the human nature.
You'd say the exact same things if you were around the same time computers started being used. Only this will probably make less of an impact on a person when it becomes common than not having a computer in this day and age.
So your solution to mainsteam sports being boring is to just give everyone guns?
So instead of a game that requires a miniscule amount of thought, it now requires no thought at all?
Call me back when these robotic limbs actually work better than normal human limbs. Currently legs from the knee down have the benefits of being better, but you have to constantly swap them out in order to do different things with them.
Okay okay, they can make robot hands and shit that link up to your nerves... but can they make the same thing in say the form of a cluster of tentacles?
I need to know if i can have metal combat tentacles wired to my arm.
also a shotgun.
That isn't what Transhumanism is. Transhumanism is immortality. Whether or not that has a physical form is irrelevant and based on what we know now it most likely won't. Transhumanism is uploading your consciousness. Transhumanism is ascending beyond human comprehension. Transhumanism is understanding the nature of man and choosing not to accept it. Transhumanism is not getting 2 dicks so you can fuck 2 bitches at once.
What exactly do you mean by "cybernetics"? Are we talking about the study of control and system dynamics or are you using it as an euphemism for augmentation?
>transcend this retarded world.
You can already do that anon.
>suddenly realizing the implications for porn
Tentacle mecha men JAV, imagine it. The future is looking bright anons, i have a reason to live.
>tfw no arena real life shootout sport where two teams are matched to capture the flag with real guns shooting eachother for real with worldwide broadcast
>tfw we will never have the real life arena shooter
Man, I'd watch the fuck out of that sport.
Soccer, baskebtall and other boring sports wouldn't stand a chance next to MurderBowl.
>Whether or not that has a physical form is irrelevant and based on what we know now it most likely won't. Transhumanism is uploading your consciousness. Transhumanism is ascending beyond human comprehension. Transhumanism is understanding the nature of man and choosing not to accept it.
That's posthumanism actually.
>under the Communications Safety act of 2019, websites may only be setup by FCC licensed operators on FCC approved equipment
>under the Child Abuse Prevention act of 2022, you may only visit FCC whitelisted websites
>under the Highway Improvement act of 2023, all cars must have a functional GPS system active at all times along with an EU-style kill switch for police
>under the Intellectual Property Security act of 2025, all printed materials require a tax stamp along with proof of registration of their copyright. Offending materials can be turned into a local fire station for disposal.
>under the Interstate Anti-Crime act of 2027, the TSA is allowed to setup checkpointing and require visa/residency checks when travelling between major cities
>under the Freedom Act of 2031, commercial civilian firearm sales are prohibited to non-FFL holders
>under the FCC Content Standards act of 2033, all digital content is regulated in the same manner TV and radio content are
alex jones warned us
Both. It's a nebulous term used to define introduction of non-organic (or altered organics) to organic mehcanisms. Whether or not that is done through the introduction of actual mechanical mechanisms or altering organic mechanisms is irrelevant. It is the manipulation by some sort of "un-natural" (as in non-organic[organic referring to unaltered cells]) mechanism.
It's a rather large set. At least that's how I use it. There really is no codified definition of it yet.
best part is that because we're American the teaching hospital only charged us $5,000 for the surgery. She also has one of those electronic ear implant things, because the company that makes them is doing trial runs now
>Transhumanism is immortality.
>Transhumanism is understanding the nature of man and choosing not to accept it.
and this is basically what my mom is now, because she'd be dead 15+ years ago if it weren't for her new kidneys and it's the "nature of man" to go outside and explore and not be a fat fuck shut in watching TV and eating KFC all day
>So instead of a game that requires a miniscule amount of thought, it now requires no thought at all?
i m p l y i n g
Just because current sports are more like shitty operas because of all the limitations and rules and other arbitrary shit that don't allow you to use logic because "it's unfair" doesn't mean deathsports will be.
If killing is so easy why won't you go to war then?
Hope you have the money needed to protect your spine from thieves. Spinal cords are in high demand these days.
There already are.
Mass media overload, desentisized society, pollution and inefficient production/recycling methods for profit, etc.
Industrialisation was and will be no different from augmentations. Everything we do has it's bad side.
You could argue being a hippie in a hut wearing nothing but a loincloth would be less negative than this.
Besides, who gives a shit, it's not like I can change the future.
can't wait to get me some alien ass
>There really is no codified definition of it yet.
Stop, for the love of everything good in the world please stop. Go educate yourself, please. Google it, find Paul Pangaro's videos or essays before we all murder you.
With real guns.
I want to see people die for sport.
I want to see them fight for their lives.
Mate, deathsports would end in one way and one way only, and that's the team that can afford even a single nuclear bomb wins. If you remove all rules, you might as well just whip out the heaviest weaponry. Would you want to watch a contest where every game ends within seconds as the opposing side sets off a massive explosive? Nothing is ruleless, even war is governed by quite a few rules.
You are one hell of an edgy teen, m8.
>If killing is so easy why won't you go to war then?
War is not just killing.
War is strategy, operations, and tactics. It takes place over years and requires careful use of manpower resources, and politics.
If you make a game out of it it will necessarily be far more reductive than any authentic conflict.
And if we're comparing the complexity of a game like football or soccer, then it's going to be a lot more complex and thought provoking than something like a gladiator battle. Those rules are what gives it the little complexity it has.
What if chess pieces weren't restricted by rules?
Do you honestly think the game would be nearly as complex?
Counter Strike is nice to watch, but real life counter strike is even cooler.
Love me some live leak videos.
Curiosity and voyeurism aren't something only edgy teens like.
Well, can you change the world?
One in seven billions to change, I hope you can change things for the better.
>tfw my hometown was a suburb turned ghetto in 2008
>now because everyone is a renter, apartment buildings are going up everywhere
>mfw it's like the intro to mirror's edge, seeing the derelict memories I have erased as concrete and steel towers are put up
I shouldn't be so melodramatic though, because the suburb I lived in was built ontop of three or four farming villages that were completely torn down to accommodate it. And in all fairness, as new towers go up old blight is torn down. It's just weird for me actually being able to commute to work by train now, and that I can walk to stores instead of driving. I can't help but feel that I'm of a different age though, a lot of my friends are in their 20s and don't even own cars. I myself haven't been into a large department store in over a year, and back then when I did it feel extremely quaint. Also, like I said all the farmers are retaking their land back, and it's fucking weird going from liberal inner city to toby kiethland in less than a ten minute car ride now.
>If you remove all rules, you might as well just whip out the heaviest weaponry
Then you defend against it.
Espurts babby please go. Stay go, too.
>War is not just killing.
That's what I'm saying, that that guy/you is a dummy.
>you will never have a chip for a brain that you can back up and become immortal with
But TVs ARE destroying the world. Just see how it shapes the current culture by telling people what to like and what is right or wrong. It's not destroying us directly, but it's being used to destroy the culture.
It could be justified that what i said refers to all media, but more people watch TV than use the internet, read the papers, or listen to radios.
If the Roman Colisseum show us anything it is that you can't kill the "talent" of your sport in just any boring sunday match, it would be the highest PPV of the year, rest of the season? They just get injuried or something like that, to prepare for the "big one".
Being a modern gladiator you would also have to offer them a shit load of benefits, because Gladiators kinda had those (even if slaves).
Why does this guy seem so unphased by gaining a bit of independence?
If I had had no arms for 40 years I'd be fucking ecstatic
>to quote a certain anime antagonist
That's hilarious because anime and many japanese videogames are hopelessly optimistic and naive. To paraphrase Yoko Taro, most of them are like throwing a series of very winnable challenges at the player under the pretense of unwinnable odds and then rewarding him with the illusion that he's overcome something significant.
You can't kill god, you can't save the universe.
No one can even change the world alone. People aren't that strong individually.
The future is not built by one person. Sure you can pinpoint important people across story. But was the change thanks to him or the ones which picked and spread his ideas ? Don't tag people as losers so easily. It's just the nature of society. Even the idea of loser you have in your head is an invention.
>you will never get so butthurt at a girl humiliating you for 10 seconds that you end up almost destroying the entire city
zapan had a
>defend against a nuclear weapon
What the fuck do you want to do? There's very little you can do against against things like that, jesus christ. And if there is theoretical armor that can protect against nuclear explosives, why would humans not just turtle up in their invincible bunkers, waiting until something changes?
If tech advances to the point where you can easily replace your body in a scenario as common as a fucking sporting event then death as we see it now would not carry the same implications nor would it be as frightening, if you can easily replace your body there is no fear of losing it, people wouldn't "fight for their lives" because their lives would never be on the line in the first place.
This is a really fucking weird thread, I would have never expected to find here people who are so adamant about better prosthetics, yeah it can and will be used to do evil by assholes but they would still do it without it, there is nothing that cannot be used somehow to do evil, we are trying to give a better world to people with disabilities, though at the start of it it won't come cheap, most of the good prosthetics began with ludicrous pricing for its time so that only people with a good economic state would get it at the time.
And if you talk about a dystopian future, stop and take a look around, big corporations are already a thing and they are already powerful enough to affect many things of everyday life
That's nice and all but her trying to go to sleep must have been a fucking nightmare the first month.
>>You can't kill god, you can't save the universe.
>mfw people have been brainwashed by chinese cartoons to the point where they think killing "God" is even a remote possibility
Then look up James Watt or John von Neumann. Christ, there a reason AI researchers and prosthetic engineers never use the word "Cybernetics" to describe their work. Its not even remotely similar anymore.
Philosophers, never ever.
>The future is not set in stone
Actually, it's physically very likely time works concomitantly. Not that you should consider on a day to day basis. But on the discussion, the shifts are not up to you. Ideas are popping here and there, but in the end, it's the collective that decides what get's picked.
I've got arthritis and I'm flatfooted. I used to be the fastest kid in my class in grade school, even parkouring before I knew what that was, and I played piano and drew every day. But by high school I could already feel my fingers and joints falling apart, and now it just hurts to walk, play a song, or use a pencil.
Whatever evil bullshit we can imagine just pales in front of the sheer fucking hope for life and humanity that aug tech fills me with every day.
Nietzsche here, I revived from the grave just to tell you how retarded you are.
It's not that are for people who have been deaf all their lives to speak. If they're capable of learning how to speak without ever hearing their own voice, then it's not that strange for her to understand them.
Also, reading lips is a skill some deaf people have too.
>Whatever evil bullshit we can imagine just pales in front of the sheer fucking hope for life and humanity that aug tech fills me with every day.
This is what made me enter the area
My teacher giving me encouragement helped tooI have seen and dealed with people with disabilities and could see the changes, some people really do adapt but they still long for the days they worked normally, people who are against it are normally people who alreayd have everything but are deathly afraid of change
Please don't tell me you believe in a physical being called YHWH - seriously?
Fuck you old man, i do what i want.
Somewhat good taste
>why didn't you stop it
>go back to the 19th century
okay anons it seems you really are sheltered neets living in fairylands and you mustve never stepped a foot outside.
what Im about to say can be undertood and comprehended by a fucking sub 70 iq idiot.
you think these are going to be given out for free?
a fucking radio is gonna cost millions. You really think you are gonna be able to afford this ?
this is what the new deus ex is gonna be about. the richer are gonna get stronger, smarter , better in every way on top of being rich. everybody under corporate overlord class is gonna be left behind, and eventually get wiped out, that includes all of us here, the only people being able to afford radios would be robber barons, kings, notch amounts of rich. I have nothing against new technology if the government made sure everyone got it, but it isnt gonna be so.
there is a reason cyberpunk is always a dystopian setting
Things get cheaper faggot.
>Please don't tell me you believe in a physical being called YHWH - seriously?
The statement that you could "kill" a being deserving the title of a true "God" is pants on head retarded.
God is just humans projecting human characteristics onto the universe. It's a product of our pattern seeking brain combined with our highly social psychology. If we can modify the brain using technology, one day we can "correct" for certain flaws in the way our brain works, therefore killing "god".
inb4 fedora memes
>Offending materials can be turned into a local fire station for disposal.
Man I think you're watching too much anime, the one true god
existing of notcannot be killed because he is the everything, japanese gods are small time compared to even other gods from asia, that is why they can get killed
Can we have an absolute madman edit of this old augmented guy?
>I told him to augment both arms and he actually did it the absolute madman!
I know nothing about religions, but i'm reading into their holy books in my spare time to see if they have merits outside societal control.
No shit faggots, i'm talking about the current idea of "God" not if he was walking among us.
>balming the jews
we all know who the real culprit is
The current idea of god you nigger is that he is everything, you would need to destroy reality itself to kill him on current terms humanity does not and will probably not have this power because even if we did create a blackhole it would destroy a small portion of the local space because we stil wouldn't be able to create the super massive blackholes that we have in our galatic core, stop fucking talking you dumb asshole
Would /v/ rather the world turn into Doos ex or EYE?
>implying we don't already live in a dystopian society
We can only count basic human rights on one hand, and those few are often neglected heavily by literally every government.
Everything is a privilege you have to work for. Even foodstamps require that you work or they are revoked.
You're completely delusional if you think the average citizen has free will.
my highschool didn't have reading or literature outside of the mandated ESL. You're clearly an oldfag
which is a good thingbecause in my experience schools don't bother with actual literature anymore unless you took AP classes
Nietzsche wanted to prevent nihilism, not cause it.
I personally don't think there needs to be a solution to the lack of absolute morality, or the will of God if you will. Humans are pack animals, after all. We're highly social beings, empathic and we instinctively seek structure in things, which is why the concept of God exists in the first place.
White blood cells are literally Racism Incarnate so yeah hacking a human brain would be pretty tough. hell, the hack might even backfire, and the hacker gets short circuited. Kind of like how hacking works in GiTS really.
>you don't fucking know.
Yeah, I guess not. Are you religious? Just know that it goes both ways. I may spout assumptions about things we'll never know, but you devote your entire life to assumptions. It's not really a position from which you can criticize me.
>You can't kill god
Technically you can. By killing everyone who believes in it.
That's how it works, though. Deities harness their powers from people who believe in them.
What did satin ever do to you, faggot?
>Technically you can. By killing everyone who believes in it.
No, stop, we are not talking about figuratively killing god.
We are talking about literally killing an omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent entity.
That is impossible by definition.
Can someone put a trench coat on this motherfucker?
Where does the omniscient being get it's powers from?
That's right. Belief.
Where does the belief come from?
Intelligent beings ala humans.
How do we prevent omniscient beings from getting belief?
I know they pulled a Deadly premonition move and took out the yellow filter, is there anything else that they tweaked that would make it a downgrade? I know they updated boss fights and such but not much beyond that. I'd look at it myself but I have to leave for work in 5 minutes and would like to get it downloading before that.
A downgrade? No
But there's still bugs from the first one, although way less. But I haven't played it since its release so I don't know if they fixed it or not
Its not like Sleeping Dogs where they literally downgraded the graphics, unless you enjoyed the pissfilter in HR
>All that pent up frustration of not being able to hear anything around you released in one moment. Something so normal to others, so natural to animals, and it was all lost to you until the very moment the device turns on, and a new world that was always there is open to you.
We can still pronounce things with our inner voices, and depending if there's a picture of a particular person, like pic related, the voie can change into that particular person's voice.
Titty sprinkles. Amazing, isn't it? You are now reading this text with the voice of Morgan Freeman, it's like Morgan himself is narrating the very text you are now reading.
>Horrible accident makes me lose most of my body including face.
>Replace everything with robotic implants
>One day I'm shopping at the mall when I faint
>Wake up next to a fat greasy neckbeard
>I'm sucking his dick
>mfw he hacked me and now I'm his sex slave.
>Where does the omniscient being get it's powers from?
>That's right. Belief.
Why the fuck do you think this?