What should I know about pc components?
I wanna be able to enjoy any new vidya but my knowledge about hardware is none
Easy to build these days as components clicks in like LEGO.
Obviously you do not have to start $2000 range and up. Thanks to
consolesmost games these days can easily be played on a Fair to Good range ($500~) with acceptable frame rates.
Intel CPUs are good. AMD are cheap but shit .
Nvidia has superior GPUs. AMDs are again cheaper, but for a reason.
Motherboard s are made for either Intel's or AMD's CPUs.
Strong graphics cards can require good PSUs. I recommend > 500W.
PSU is #1 priority. A bad PSU can fail and take your whole system with it. If it's under $20, it's almost surely shit. Good, reliable brands are EVGA and Corsair. XFX and SeaSonic are always your top end stuff, XFX is just basically a cheaper SeaSonic. Corsair and EVGA will occasionally make top end units. I suggest googling the exact model of PSU you're thinking about and looking at some reviews (not amazon/newegg). Just checking out the last "conclusion" page or whatever should suffice.
GPU/CPU are next. Anandtech has a nice GPU comparison tool that shows how GPUs perform compared to each other. Too lazy to check prices now, but typically if you're buying anything cheaper than a GTX 970, it's best to go with AMD. Always go with an Intel CPU, unless you're a video editor on a budget.
As for RAM, you can get away with 4GB, but it might hinder your ability to multitask.
What's your budget? I can whip you up a quick build.
>anything I should know about pc gaming
KB + Mouse rule in most games.
Each PC is unique, so games tend to have many settings in options menu, especially graphics quality things. Control s are re-bindable.
Remember to update your drivers from time to time and check for patches n other fixes if you got issues.
If you remove your heat sinker for any reason, make sure to bolt that thing back as hard as you possibly can so that it's hard pressed onto the paste surface. Your PC will go full retarded if there is even one tenth of a millimiter of distance between the two.
I learned that the hard way. It's also very hard to find this specific information compared to every other common newbie mistakes / trivia, despite being critical.
>As for RAM, you can get away with 4GB,
I wouldn't recommended that, as I got 4GB and now I actually need to upgrade, it got capped on a couple games without alt tabbing/any other program running. It's due to shit game optimization of course, but shit developers are a common thing about modern PC gaming unfortunately.
What do you think I should get? i5 something? Actually no I am getting an i7 to handle softwares other than games.
So get a new GPU first then get new mobo and proc later? GPU is AMD 6970. Mobo is MSI X58-Pro E
2 of my friends have burned 4 Radeons in past four years, and we live in North. They also had poor fps or other issues, while my old Nvidia card from late 00s ran great.
so yeah, AMD are shit.
>i5, avoid AMD unless you are on a budget
>don't spend more than $100 on a mobo, make sure it's the same socket as your cpu
>8 gigs of the cheapest ram you can find, brand doesn't matter
>ssd if you can afford it
>at the least get a 270x or 760
>avoid ugly ass ricer cases
>gold rated or above power supply, 550 watts at the minimum
Can this post just be stickied?
kick ass torrents
private trackers (which have always been infinitely superior to piratebay at any point in time, plus you dont have to worry about fake releases unless it's literally been uploaded five minutes before you getting the torrent)
>paying $500 instead of $50 because of a less than 1% risk that could sometimes, maybe if you get unlucky break parts of your $1500 machine
Nah, it makes no sense. It's way more convenient to take the risk.
Who the fuck actually spends $500 on a psu?
As long as you get something gold rated from a reputable brand you should be fine. $100 is about what an average person should spend on a psu.
no thats retarded.
i thought that way too at first and bought cheaper power supplies and it blew 3 of my rigs.
then i bought a crosair 850 and that has lasted me for 5 years.
rule of thumb dont buy power supplies from companies that arent well known for them and don spend under 100 bucks for them.
dont skimp on your powersupply.
i learned it the hard way and fried 5 motherboards and 3 cpus that way.
A community of which every member properly reseeds anything they download, thus making it for instant maximum speed on any obscure and old game you may want to download at any time.
I've been trying to get rainbow six 3 off the internet recently, it's a decade old game but it was popular/big, yet all public torrents for it are dead already, so I ended up using a direct download instead. That shit sucks. When I steal, I want to steal with maximum convenience. Otherwise I might as well pay the small premium to get high download speeds/availability on steam or GOG.
If your graphics card says it needs 500 watts, it's good to get a PSU with a little overhead. I personally don't like to build on anything less than 650, but then I can be paranoid about power spikes and shit.
I used LI's $550-ish build as a base for my current build.
I fucked up and bought the wrong mobo. Because of that, half of my RAM is only used for hardware, and I have useless USB3 ports
Archeage on crowded areas takes a minute to load shit if you only have 4gb
Most graphically intensive modern MMOs (black desert) don't give a good experience with just 4gb ram these days
He is right about the PSU. It does nothing for your gaming but it's the one piece you want to focus on putting enough value even if you have to sacrifice other pieces.
This means a good brand, not more watts. A single GPU PC can get away with a 450W PSU but I'd recommend some overhead, so ~550 or at least 520.
PSUs ordered from best to least good (top to bottom) within their respective categories
>Absolute top tier (North America)
>Absolute top tier (Europe)
>"Could go either way" tier
>Definitely shit tier
>Avoid at all costs
>Probably bad, or not but just get one of the known good ones
I had that issue with RAM too (it's only appearing single-channel when there are dual installed). Try reinstalling the RAM, or check the BIOS configs.
Curiously, I believed it happened to me after I installed the mobo applications (but mine's Asus instead of Gigabyte).
I am well aware of that. I have 16Gb for a reason.
>High texture option (shadow of mordo
did you actually play that game or did you just read the specs, because it really doesnt need that much
He probably means it used to be almost half that price for a time period. But that time was years ago, but the point stands that it's still cheap enough that having less than 8GB is foolish for any system.
People constantly overlook things that will use up RAM, and there are new technologies being used more frequently that can take advantage of more RAM. For example, in a regular Windows 7 workload, using Samsung SSD's RAPID mode which utilizes RAM, while running a very RAM intensive game (like a modded minecraft), will absolutely reach the borderline between RAM and page file, and if you are doing other tasks meanwhile you will definitely cross it (with 8GB of RAM)
4GB is absolutely unacceptable these days unless it's a mediocre laptop you got as a gift.
Super Flower doesn't sell in North America
Last I recall, Europeans complained about Seasonic costing too much to import to Europe because there is no Seasonic Europe, only Seasonic USA.
I haven't read this whole thread so I don't know what people have been saying, but traditionally, Nvidia has:
>More/better driver/software features
>More Nvidia-optimized games
>Notably better price/performance
>Much much better low-mid range cards
>More RAW power but DOES NOT translate into stronger overall gaming performance based on TFLOPS alone
However, AMD has recently evened the playing field in brand-optimized games, and gained Mantle, and Nvidia has become less heat efficient (not as bad as AMD), but they have lost the big huge one which is price/performance, to the GTX 970. They are still better than Nvidia in the low-mid range, but Nvidia has them beat in almost every category when it comes to the high-mid range.
We'll see what AMD has to offer with the Rx 300 series, but for now Nvidia is the better choice for higher end, AMD retains its price/performance for low-mid range.
Do you have money to spare?
Do you have all your basic requirements for the PC already?
Get them, make sure you reach the high price/performance sweet spot on GPU at least ($200~$330), then return to question 1
Do you have an SSD as well as an HDD that is at LEAST 1TB?
Buy the RAM
Get both. Probably a larger HDD unless you are conservative with installs. Then return to question 1
>large bits of adjustable plastic for muh ergonimics
>lots of led lights to enhance da gamur vision
>tribal style logos to cut intruders from EDGE
these are the ingredients to high quality GAMING gear op
Not really. I used to do a lot of video rendering and a fuckton of multitasking. Unless you're doing any combination of the following you probably dont need that much
>a billion browser tabs open at once
Only if you want to go the extra mile for the convenience of multi-monitor shenanigans, like having a video/stream on the site, plus chat programs, plus voice chat programs, plus all kinds of other tools or internet pages open.
If you actually don't do that, or you don't do it on high-demanding games anyway, 16gb is an almost needless luxury.
Omega Drivers level the field a lot. the 290/x cards are also insanely good. I can give less TDP/power consumption to nVidia, but I've never heard of AMD cards running overly hot on AFTERMARKET coolers. The reference 290/x's though were stupid.
Graphics Card is GPU
Gaming performance? Not quite.
Assuming all components are compatible, like the PSU has the power connectors for the GPU.
GPU > CPU > RAM (having enough, NOT RAM SPEED) > Storage drive > everything else
However, the power supply takes absolute priority over every other part even if it gives no gaming performance
What I mean by storage drive is that if you have a storage performance intensive game with huge loading times, like an MMO, you may want to consider investing in an SSD with enough space to comfortably install that game on there instead of the HDD
PSU > GPU > Motherboard that isn't garbage (please stay away from mITX unless you are willing to make sacrifices / know what you are doing) > CPU > storage drive > RAM quantity > Everything else
What I mean by storage drive this time is having an SSD in the first place. It makes a world of difference in your day to day use, even if it doesn't give you any in-game performance boost (just loading times on software installed on the SSD)