Anyone else think "Safe Spaces" are fucking stupid? I feel like somewhere at some point normal people have fucking lost this battle, what the fuck now.
I don't want people to defend them, I want suggestions on how I might be able to make rational and non insane arguments against them in a professional environment (i.e amongst say other game developers) for being fucking stupid.
You're not dealing with rational people anon.
That's the problem.
There are loads of greentexts about people redpilling normalfags and SJWs. I don't have them but maybe some other anon does.
>I feel like somewhere at some point normal people have fucking lost this battle
Normal people will always outnumber the loonies 100 to 1. The reason they're "winning" is because the vast majority of people don't care about this shit.
Any position in an argument that locks itself out from opposing arguments is invalid
High more woman developers and have more woman characters
Full of 'normal people'
>AWESOME to be a female in the industry
Ohhh no why it's AWESOME to be a male in the industry. Talk about gender inequlity
penny arcade makes one rape joke and ksi motorboated that girl and now everyone thinks everyone rapes everyone all the time and we need safe spaces where they ban rape.
"safe spaces" are for communists to spread putin's propaganda
Yeah, I heard Russia was one of those safe spaces.
I for one welcome segregation and safe spaces. Finally things will once again be as they should be
Daily reminder that "diversity" means chasing down the last white person.
I don't care very much. I think it's pretty lame but if people want to section themselves off for whatever reason I guess they can do that.
It's not like we don't do that here. Just instead of putting up big signs about who is welcome we call each other mean names.
Why? You wouldn't listen to someone telling us not to call each other faggots.
Why do people after 200 years still not realize the more attention you give to diversity the more it annoys people and causes them to be racist? Don't force it to happen, just encourage your children to frown upon racists and that's all it takes.
>A panel dedicated to learning how to not raise a casual
you don't understand, the people behind the diversity shit want the white race to be bred out of existence, and that's all they want. they don't care about creating a perfect society of acceptance or whatever. don't be a rose tinted glasses wearing faggot.
>Racism is bad
Westerners are fucked in the head
The way someone looks, dress, and behave tells a lot about him or her. I'm not going to stop discriminating just because sensitive retards think it might be offensive.
Seriously, this. It's a double edged sword with these people.
>You don't have enough minority culture in your games!
>Your use of minority culture in games is appropriation!
They just want to bitch.
Because they're the most well off, meaning that those bored pseudo-intellectual 20 somethings who have accomplished nothing in their lives have to fight against they only thing they care about: themselves. However, these people are so egotistical that they don't think they're bad, so they blame their culture and want to see it pushed out for something exotic (ie every other culture in the solar system).
I don't know why they think that would sell games anyways. There are lots of games that tried to capture those cultures and didn't sell for shit.
Blacks and Latinos just play GTA, Madden, and FIFA. There's no magic secret involved in capturing those demographics and they're way less susceptible to diversity pandering than whites are.
>Why Internet Jerks Aren't Going to Win, And You Can Help
The moment they think it is some sort of war or struggle instead of some guy shitposting to have a laugh, is the moment they lose. So yeah, "Internet Jerks" already won.
this is why /a/ is so much better than /v/. so much crossboarding in /v/ it's disgusting. the second any faggot tries to take something off topic in /a/ they're told to fuck off and banned. in /v/ it's welcomed. no wonder you have so many newfags, redditors, and sjw in /v/
i dont even like video games i just come here to laugh at how shitty your board is.
I saw this happen with atheism. These people come in, shit everything up in a misguided attempt to make things better in some cases. Get attention in others. And leave nothing but destruction in their wake. They will probably go to automobiles or metal next. Be prepared for campaigns to get Jeremy Clarkson fired and Top Gear being forced to have a cast of women who know nothing about cars.
It's not. You just haven't searched for examples of the latter, or you'll just tell me that the non-white countries vying for white workers/residents are in on the white genocide.
a good excuse to post this
It is all about feeling like they're making a difference. That's the important part.
So much of what they say doesn't make sense.
>Minority X is being treated wrong! They're fully capable of doing everything anyone else can do without outside interference.
>That's why we need to help them and make sure that they aren't getting bullied by other groups.
There's this whole fundamental flaw in their way of thinking. Recently some black people have spoken out against it in my country (the issue was a kind of candy in the shape of a traditional African mask - this was, of course, racist): "We don't need your help, white folks. Don't assume that we're this helpless bunch of people who can't do anything unless the white people step in to rescue us", or something like that.
That's the way to approach it. Being offended on behalf of someone else is fucking ridicules and demeaning.
Have you tried telling them to "grow the fuck up?" The fact we have such things suggests that minorities are too sensitive to handle a single bad thing being said about them. Which is correct me if I'm wrong is racist. Safe spaces have no point in existing because they treat the so called minorities as goddamn children. Oh and before some tumblrina says "check ur priv" I'm a spic.
Safe Spaces are hypocritical. The same fucks who cry for MUH SAFE SPACE are the ones who are intent on destroy what WAS a "safe space" built up by nerds and losers who were mocked and berated so much in real world that they created and retreated into these amazing fantasy worlds of imagination.
But then the SJW rolled in and began emitting their soulless harpy shrieks about how gamers are "toxic shitlords" and they proceeded to maliciously attack those safe space gamers had made for themselves with a greedy glint in their eyes, eager to waddle around setting up their Oppression Olympics where scam artists all compete against each other over proving who is the Most Oppressed for fabulous cash and prizes.
I don't get why people are so obsessed with SJWs and gays, and all that shit.
Are you angry at them? Scared?
People who don't care don't make this many threads every day that outpace every other one in replies
As someone that has been to GDC a few times (2013 and 2014), I can tell you pretty much no one gives a shit about the SJW stuff
they just dont talk about it. Sure, there are talks, but the talks are about 5% of the total "population" that go to GDC. Most of the action happens on the floor where you meet devs and make connections. And most of the connections happen at bars, clubs, and restaurants. It's a glorified networking event. Bigger devs show up to show off their cool stuff and why it's exciting to develop for them, and there's tons of smaller devs too, even a huge indie section
I can honestly tell you, no one gives a shit who you are, just what you do.
Nobody gives a shit about gays.
In fact, gay people seem really relaxed when it comes to SJW issues and video games. White straight men are much more involved and annoying.
This is indicative of the whole industry. Everyone has a good time there. I've no idea where this whole "the games industry is sexist" thing came from, because almost the entire industry is extremely welcoming. This is based mostly on the fact that most devs are fucking nerds and they know what it's like to be an outcast at some point in their life.
Game devs are good people. Don't let Phil Fish or that faggot that made super meat boy tell you other wise, they are small fish in a big ocean of love
Here is a slightly relevant article worth a read, if you're interested. The author creates a very clear image of how these people think and 3/4th down he talks a bit about the marxist root of the ideology and why arguing against it is basically futile.
In my opinion, the best thing you can hope to do is just continuously point out that they are oversensitive, and assert that you yourself like a social environment in which freedom of expression is valued and opposing viewpoints can be uttered without fear, and not engage in any arguments.
>Priviledge equals NOT understanding where violence plus the HISTORY of intentions arent't about more than what you do understand to THINK
there's a dev community that advocates this type of "safe space" policy. it's fucking stupid. when did this stop being about the fucking games. I can't stand this shit anymore. and the people usually talking shit or taking offense to that type of crap are usually the type who are fucking shitty at making games as well. as in, they fucking suck at programming, making art, etc.
Is that why Rose McGowan snapped at gays for not helping feminism enough? Gays just didn't care enough.
>understanding where violence plus the HISTORY of intentions aren't about what you do understand to THINK
This takes me back to that one Conduit thread. You know the one.
This. This is how it should be, and how it should be. I'm a dev as well, and have worked my fucking ass off to get where I am today. Nowadays we get people who talk way too fucking loud for what they're able to do representing the industry, especially smaller studios and teams. Then we get normal people who don't know game dev get their impressions from these people just because they talk the loudest. It makes me fucking sick. Maybe I'm just being negative but, the SJWs are penetrating, slowly but surely.
I honestly think all this equality bullshit stems from the fact that a lot of nerds who grew up during the early 90's ended up making a lot of headway in gaming and nerd culture. Now they have a decent amount of power they prevent this from happening to the younger generation going out of their way to make sure everything is a safe environment. It's all going to backfire one day when we get a bunch of kids who don't know how to fend for themselves and think everything is all sunshine and roses.
they're a cancer for sure
some of my best times with strangers has been with game devs. Met a guy last year that came to watch the Dota 2 tournament from the philipeans and decided to buy a ticket for the last few days of GDC. Hung out at the baseball field during a party and had AMAZING free handrolled cigars and free beer
And then, you want to speak up, but you can't. Maybe one day you do and then you look like some kind of intolerant bigot asshole called out because "oh, you don't like what they're doing just because they're DIFFERENT or MAKING something different you don't support them? YOU'RE A BIGOT" and then your career is fucking over with all those assholes echo-ing and overreading what you said over twitter or tumblr or bullshit. That's my biggest fear, and why I stay quiet. I am a coward.
You all are triggering me with your bigotry, I identify as a koala and you are NOT respecting my rights.
there's a difference between jerking off to 2d pornography and mutilating your genitals
When literally the entire rest of the fanbase doesn't give a shit, it's a waste of time and resources. Not to mention that such characters are as shallow as the people they're meant to appeal to.
>LOOK AT ME I'M A BLACK/CHINESE VIDEO GAME CHARACTER I'M SO AWESOME
>LOOK AT THAT VIDEO GAME CHARACTER SHE'S BLACK/CHINESE SHE'S SO AWESOME
Forget everything else about the character, it's not like it matters.
The problem is when people complain that a certain character isnt female or isnt black or yadda yadda yadda
you know how you create diversity in games? You start by creativing diversity in players and developers.
fuck off trying to force people to make diverse casts, they'll make what they identify with or what they want to. If you want more black characters, cultivate more black devs. If you want more women, cultivate more female devs
because /v/ is full of normal people who were turned into freaks and misfits by the uncaring society. fags and trannies voluntarily turned themselves into freaks and demand to be treated like royalty.
No one has a problem with your assertion at face value, the problem is that these radical feminists will pick apart any depiction of a woman for being too sexualized, or being too protected by the man, or acting too masculine, or being too attractive, or pretty much anything else. These people have no stake in actually making games more open and accessible, they merely use whatever examples they can find in games to advance their ideology and have an excuse to push their Patreons and Kickstarters.
You should gather a whole group of white nerdy guys and paint your face black and wear afros.
Then you go crowd up the place telling everyone you're transracials, and if anyone complains call them racist
I don't think I'm alone in this either. The one who speaks the loudest wins. That said, what can I do? As someone on the inside, what would YOU do? TO be able to say and speak out against these people, all the while not jeopardizing your career?
Racial minorities and women are kept out of development. White males make up the vast majority of game developers (and computer workers in general) so the assumption is that minorities and women either can't or just plain don't want to, which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>I feel such an affinity with the dark
So if all they care about is their gender and skin color and nothing else about the character matters doesn't that make them racist or sexist? at least this is how i feel assuming SJWs actually play games and care about anything that's not complaining
These things are almost exclusively attended to by upper-middle class heterosexual whites.
They have to ship in token blacks, gays, spics, and trans.
Fighting game tournies have more diversity than SJW meetups.
I think these people ought to self-impode on their own retardation.
>Go to female bathrooms all the fucking time, claiming that youre a woman in a man's body
>Start making outrageous otherkin-tier claims
>Behave unpredictably, because of your trans-ethnicity
>And finally, if someone starts trying to talk you down about this stuff, tell them that they're bigoted/racists/whateverFotMbuzzwordtheyuse and that they're oppressing you.
Basically make the movement implode on its own lack of rationality.
Diversity is a codeword for White genocide.
Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.
Why not? if i don't consider myself affiliated to anyone and walk on my own up to a group of these people and call them stuff i can't be racist because i'm outnumbered? but i suppose they have something else ready to justify why it still is, like i'm still a white CIS male or whatever
i'm a bit out of touch with this stuff, easy rage fuel for me
Haven't read the thread, probably should, but drunk on a Saturday afternoon is non-compatible for "probably should"s.
A "safe spot" is kind of a flawed concept in that it really does imply that areas outside it are unsafe, since you feel the need to designate that it is safe, and it it's designation that makes it special or different from the norm. If you want to be seen as a truly inclusive event, just bill yourself as such. Don't say the floor is lava but luckily you have these couch cushions handy.
More than anything else, this is something that damages the event since you are calling everything outside the women/gay/liberal base a misogynistic/rightie minefield, validity of the implication not withstanding.
I continue to think of Jared Ray's argument with the FGC years back, arguing that inclusiveness is something they should strive towards, while other arguments were about keeping it "real". It's not a perfect analogy, but making a concious effort to castrate the audience so other people feel more comfortable is more than a little pointless. It's appealing to an audience that isn't yours. Man or woman, those who can't groove with the beat isn't supposed to be there. This stuff has to be organic or it's false. It's a very clear dichotomy (is that the right word?), one that is what drives every argument for and against it.
TL;DR Safe Zones are less helpful than anyone thinks they are.
>Go to female bathrooms all the fucking time, claiming that youre a woman in a man's body
this is actually supported by sjws, no joke
White genocide has already happened in South Africa and Zimbabwe, and the world has turned a blind eye to it. When it truly starts happening all over the western world, will anyone really care?
the fuck is a safe space? safe from what? I'll never understand these sensitive faggots. Maybe it's because I grew up "under-privileged"
I think the very notion of privilege is ridiculous. I'm not denying that some people don't have it better than others but so what? What is crying about it going to achieve?and had to deal with actual problems in my life that I can't fathom being a sissy bitch about every single thing I don't agree with.
I really dislike people like this. They're so in favour of not being racist that it has gone full circle and makes them really fucking racist.
You got a single fact to back that up?
Sure, it's more LIKELY due to population numbers but I want to see you prove that whites are going out of their way to prevent non-whites from being hired.
>If you are 'born into the gender you identify as' you are 'CIS'
so this is not always a bad thing right? or do they seriously expect every single person in the world to feel identified as something they are not born as?
Holy fucking shit Anon, you are why I still fucking visit this site. For poignant, unfiltered, thought out, honest replies on shit like this. This is what I was looking for and will be using in future arguments.
We live in a so called "unsafe" world, or maybe you're just looking for a goddamn hugbox?
"Safe Zone" just means: "A place where disagreeing with the hivemind is not allowed."
This shit operates like a cult.
>Raise your kid through games and game design
>A seminar by people that don't play video games and make shitty games
>Also, fuck whatever your child wants, project what you want them to be onto them
Literally a cult
I know universites that actually have signs up saying that the bathrooms are like this
If this was the case at our university, I could play my dysphoria card and get to and from the toilets quicker, as their actually is a decent distance between gendered toiltets (30m?)
"Safe spaces" are fucking idiotic. People advocating for them basically want to be segregated.
Social justice was invented to keep the white man and black man from destroying the jew
Various game dev communities have taken up "safe-space" policies recently. I'm all for lgbt rights, whatever fuck have you, but people need to chill the fuck out. If someones being a fucking asshole, they're being an asshole.
Do you have any idea what Rhodesia was?
Let me tell you about Rhodesia
It's to divide everyone into clear and distinct lines that separate everyone into categories.
The idea is that it forces your way of thinking to be at odds with your family, parents, peers until you cannot fit in with anyone other than other SJWs. If you can't escape Social Justice, then you must dig deeper into it to survive, or risk being cut off from your only source of human interaction.
It's why they go after the NFL, tabletop games, comics, and video games. These four things are classical 'safe houses' for men to escape from propaganda. But you can't have that. The only love should be love for Big Sister.
I feel bad for you guys. White guilt faggots tend to treat anyone who isn't white like a baby who can't think for themselves. I imagine that if I were in that situation I'd despise them.
I'm a white guy, I have black friends, they're just my friends. I don't give a fuck about what colour they are. I have never felt the need to treat anyone differently based on their colour unless I was taking a picture of a black person then I'd make sure I had the flash turned on but that's it.
>Seem to keep it a boys club
No, just no. The simple fact is that the genders tend to gravitate to particular careers. Women aren't frozen out of the game industry - they just have little interest in it as a gender. Look up any gov't statistics on the percentage of women in a given career.
So 80+% of veterinary workers are women, 60+% are involved in clothing / apparel, whether manufacturing or sales... WE NEED TO GET MORE MEN INTO THESE INDUSTRIES FORCE IT FORCE IT.
I just wanted to say to all the mad widdle gators that you got banned from this site. No amount of your posting will reverse the decision that 4chan made to establish itself as firmly against GlooberGoon.
Fuck gators, misandry for life, you lost and we won. Go cry to your total shitscuit.
Cuties killing video games with love! <3
ive had two different people from high school come out to me as trans. they just said it, and said "so yeah call me [new or slightly adjusted name] and refer to me as a guy from now on", and so i said ok, and im still friends with them because i dont give a fuck
this is the goal that all these movements should be aiming for: nobody giving a shit about their little gender issues. just choose who you want to be, be that person, and nobody gives a fuck regardless
>I feel bad for you guys. White guilt faggots tend to treat anyone who isn't white like a baby who can't think for themselves. I imagine that if I were in that situation I'd despise them.
Democrats treat blacks the same way.
it's ironic that the function of a "safe space" is to be able to censor comments/opinions of those they don't agree with, despite someone maybe thinking that a "safe space" would be somewhere one could express their opinion, no matter what it is, "safely"
What you identify as is entirely up to you and there is no 'bad' or 'good' things. However, being born cis makes you part of a privilege class, which means as an act to counter-balance your privilege, you deserve fewer rights than people of other sexual orientations.
>implying /v/ matters when it comes to video games
That's right guise, we decide on everything that happens in vidya!
Congratulations on wasting your life's effort to show up an image board. That'll be a bright spot on your CV.
These little overspoiled fucks cannot comprehend the concept of right and wrong. They want to be conforted in their own little delusional thoughts, which happen to be in total discrepancy with both rationality and objective facts.
>You're not a woman in a man's body, you're a man.
>You're not the half-offspring of an unicorn and a dragon, you're the offpring of both a human sperm and a human oocyte
>You may feel closer to the culture of whatever country, but you're not fucking transracial or whatever bullshit you may imagine.
>There is no widespread cabal to keep women out of jobs and pay them less. Why are there less women in STEM majors than in, say, nursing? Because, in general, women are not interested in STEM. Why are they paid less? Because usually they work less than their male counterparts, due to muh child. Do men argue about the fact that there are next-to no male midvives?
These shits want the world served to them on a silver platter, and they ask for the world to conform to their moronic and retarded views, regardless of their reality.
Well that's to be expected; people of every race like their fightan gaems 'cause fightan gaems are pretty universally fun.
But on the other hand, SJWs do not tolerate those who do not fit the narrative - which is basically every minority that still has some sanity.
your cancer is overflowing through my screen
Ever heard of "Everything I needed to know I learned in Kindergarten?"
These people operate on that level. There can be no right or wrong, good or bad. If something is successful then, it must be because someone cheated. How did they cheat, then? Well it must be racism, or sexism, or any other ism doing it.
Because no, you can't say that it was capitalism, or European ideals of democracy, or American ideals of the modern Republic that made the West successful. No no no. It's White people actively destroying the failed states in Africa and the Middle East with Racism.
>They lost because the rest of the world didn't want the whites to win
That's because most MtFs aren't actually trans. They're fucked up betas who are jumping on the SJW bandwagon.
And then there are the actual trans people that have shitty families and end up becoming drug addicted homeless whores.
in an ideal world, they could dress and act however they wanted without asking to be called a different gender than they actually are
but we dont live in an ideal world, so in order to be the person they feel like being, they have to ask people around them to afford them certain trivialities to avoid explaining their whole life to every person who asks
thats why you should want to help them by calling them "she" instead of "he" if they ask for you to.
>tfw a bunch of kids being raised to live constantly pampered through "trigger words", "mansplaining", "safe space", "microagressions", etc etc will soon have to find a job
>Normies will have to deal with them
I'm an indie dev, and thinking about quitting because I'm tired of dealing with all this bs. The "indie" label is associated with fucking garbage and drama now. It's not financially fucking worth it to do this anymore, unless I find a publisher. I'd consider myself a pretty damn good developer too who loves what he fucking does and loves fucking games. Don't support indie devs, support "developers". Fuck indies, most of it is fucking garbage and developed using Youtube tutorials anyway.
Parenthood and games things might be interesting if there's some science or statistics behind it and not just hours of muhfeelz.
Same case with anxiety and depression in gamers. God knows there's enough of those beta faggots out there that they can fill multiple steam friends threads, finding some way to cure them or at least make them fuck off would be nice.
Agreed good sir.
shows that women gravitate towards specific careers.
And regarding actual working hours / absences from work
Wow. Absence rate of men from work in 2013 across all work sectors was 2.2 thousand, increasing to 3.0 at 55.
Women have basically a straight 3.8 thousand across all their age groups.
Clearly women should be paid equally for less work.
>mfw work with a tumblr cunt
>she makes le XD so nurdy jokes
>shes fucking horrible at her job
>any time one of my male bosses tries to explain how to do something she blows them off and complains about mansplaining
>found out they're going to fire her soon
Top top kek
Of course. Because they must destroy anything that can be above your status to bring people together.
Everyone is divided along lines of sex, sexuality, religion, race, ethnic group, nationality.
But even when people are separated, they can find common ground. The idea is to destroy the notions of these 'common grounds' by placing focus on what makes is 'different' rather than what could allow us to cooperate.
If you're at odds with your peers, you need something to hold onto or risk being alone. That's what Social Justice does. It destroys your connections to everyone that isn't SocJus as well.
You can't like him, he's white! You can't like him, he's Christian! You can't like him, he's male! You can't like him, he's straight! You can't like him, he's American!
A black homosexual female atheist from San Fran and a white heterosexual Christian male from Texas can still find common ground and a will to cooperate on the basis that they are both American. Because being 'American' is above all the other petty small shit. But turn this concept on it's head, and make the small divisions the most important ones, and everyone is at odds.
Bahahaha womens' lounge.
The LEAST safe place for a woman is to be in a place with more girls than guys. Guys protect women. Other women viciously attack each-other for being too fat, or not fat enough, or too white, or too chaste, or too slutty, or not SJW enough, or too SJW, or stuff like that.
Woman is woman's natural predator.
You want a safe space for women? Get a bunch of dudes in, they tend to be bullshitstoppers and protectors of the pussy.
enjoy drama with HR, a crazy chick started a holy crusade to smear our boss after getting a warning
oh fuck i forgot
NORMIEEEEEEES GET OUT TTTTTTTTTTT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>yfw SJW is just a stormfront operation to reintroduce slavery
>sooner or later blacks will be guaranteed free jobs, which they are not allowed to retire from because it might result in unemployment, and which they are not paid for - so money can be allocated to other social justice causes.
now imagine if that bitch brought it up on tumblr or twitter, she explains how she was prejudiced against just because of her gender. she bitches and complains, gains a following of fellow useless, stupid, vapid supporters. They blindly follow her. She publicly says what company she works for. The company gains a fuckton of backlash against them. They go under and/or are forced to take action in her favor to stay afloat due to the bad publicity.
This, this is what we should be afraid of.
I agree that the term indie has be poisoned by these cunts but I don't think you guys should punish every single indie dev for it and then separating the good ones with a different term. They'll just hop onto the new one.
Just support the good ones that have proven themselves worthy. I have no idea why that's such a hard concept for a good majority of /v/ to grasp. The second you read the word indie and you start flaring up like an SJW hearing their trigger word.
>he doesn't know about the trade embargo
>he doesn't know about the sanctions
>he doesn't know Rhodesia produced the largest amount of crops in Africa
>he thinks it was a shithole
This is dumb as fuck. It's like complaining about black only colleges. Keep em alternate, err, I mean, "safe". Let them voluntarily segregate themselves so you don't have to watch their displays of special snowflake bullshit.
These fucks should go to psychiatirc hospitals.
That's grade A gender dysphoria.
Give me a Klinefelter, a Turner, or even a fucking biological basis for it and I may consider it. But, outside of these rare exceptions, they're neurotics in denial.
Daily reminder that stormfags are astroturfing faggots who resort to petty appeals to emotion
Population ageing + Pensions
You need more people in the country to avoid putting up taxes (sure election loser) or cutting pensions (sure election loser).
Is it sustainable? probably not, those immigrants will need a pension too - but by then, the politicians of today will have retired on their own pensions.
>went to pic related
>thought the Diversity Lounge was going to be a place where gay/trans/LGTBBQ people are segregated and hang out
>turns out it's just a place for gay marketed companies to sell their shit
>dude was trying to advertise his Mean Girls and Ru Paul Drag Race mobile game swhich were just clones of other popular games
>another dude was selling gay comics filled with massive amounts of gay sex and nudity in some of them
>TV with Smash 4 set up to where literally anyone could go in and play
It wasn't as bad as I thought but I thought it was kind of fucked they put the "gay" games and shit in a separate, "gay friendly" space away from all the other show floor stuff.
Anyways, the SJW infection here was definitely there in some form, but it wasn't super bad; maybe it was because of the small size compared to all other PAXes.
> Just support the good ones that have proven themselves worthy. I have no idea why that's such a hard concept for a good majority of /v/ to grasp. The second you read the word indie and you start flaring up like an SJW hearing their trigger word.
That's the problem, the everyday layman won't separate the two. The shitty Gone Home devs and the guys who make Shovel Knight are fucking inclusive. They're all "indie". Were not talking about the hardcore /v/ browser who would care to look up that shit. That said, sales are king. Those who sell and get positive coverage can live on and make more games. It's how it goes. The term "indie" is poisoned. PSN/XBLA/Steam have tags for "indie". I myself have a penchant already for lumping it in with "garbage". Either underfunded, politically pandering, or just shit production values. That's the problem with indie. We should be encouraging "game developers" and "game developers" alone. You made a good game or you didn't, that's all that should matter, but nowadays it doesn't and it makes me fucking sick.
Am I stupid?
Never in my life have I argued in this manner. Absolute nothing in that post makes sense to me.
'You can't use logic because it's rooted in Europe'. LOL seriously??? You know, the system we utilize for scientific advancement, jurisprudence, debate, and essentially living our lives?
So when this idiot tries to open a door knob she doesn't utilize 'European logic'? How the fuck does she get it open? Does a rainbow unicorn fly out of her ass and paw it open for her???
>I don't think it's terribly unreasonable to ask game developers to make more characters that non-white and/or non-male players can identify with.
The issue is, it'll seem forced.
Take Lee Everett in the Walking Dead.
While on the surface he's black, he's just a white guy painted black.
He has a father. He has a family. He cares for a child. He thinks about his actions. He is capable of being honest. When he lies, his lies are believable and consistent. He does not always go with his first impulse - indeed, INability to act on impulse is a plot point should you refuse to make a choice on who to save. He has an education and is knowledgable about the subject in question. And, worst of all? HE's the one who gets cucked (by the senator, whom he murders).
So yeah. He may be "Inclusive" but he's just a white guy with a coat of paint.
They probably should have done that course sooner. We could've had less crazy trans to deal with.
You don't 'argue' in that manner anon. You just shut down debate through non-logical fallacy. That's a genetic fallacy right there - she's claiming logic has no value because it is European in origin. It doesn't hold up in a rational thought pattern.
super good, really well thought out, and very fair for both sides
but this.....my brain hurts reading this many adjectives in a sentence
>The website The Feminist Wire mounted an even more rousing defense of Miller-Young’s behavior. The whole idea that the professor committed a crime by stealing a sign and shoving away its owner turns out to be an ideological construct. “The ease with which privileged white, and particularly young white gender and sexually normative appearing women, make claims to ‘victimhood’ and ‘violation of property,’ is not a neutral move,” its authors argued. It concluded, “We issue a radical call for accountability to questions of history, representation, and the racialized gendering of tropes of ‘culpability’ and ‘innocence’ when considering Dr. Miller-Young’s case.”
>Make picture complaining about privilege
>Put a Caucasian woman on it representing the oppressed
Oh god, liberals. It's good being black, I can call them out at any time and shut down their arguments. Then, when they try to go and get me fired, all I have to do is point at the color of my skin.
I feel sorry for the rest of you white cucks out there
Didn't we spend a bunch of time and effort trying to get rid of this shit? Why are liberals trying to fucking bring it back?
I understand /pol/, but why the fuck would /fit/ be concerned about tumblr shit?
Why do people still make these threads
every time these threads happen everyone just ends up asking the exact same fucking questions and getting the exact same fucking responses
i mean, for all the criticism you throw at SJW hambeasts for being a hivemind, you sure do lack any sort of original fucking thoughts whatsoever
The "indie" label is dead
you can be a single dev working for themselves or whatever (or you can be a huge studio like DoubleFine and call yourself "indie")
If you make a shit game people wont buy it beyond some screaming queer like pewdiepie
>A 50-50 walks into your office complaining of abdominal pain.
>Xe says xe is a man. Okay, better take xim at xer word.
>When feeling around the abdomen, you detect abnormal lumps which give the patient pain when touched.
>You order an x-ray. To your horror you discover a stitched on false-penis and a mutilated set of what used to be ovaries.
>Worse yet, the false-penis has succumbed to necrosis, and the disease is spreading through the user's lower body.
>You suggest to cut off the unnatural franken-frank for xer health. Xe begins to cry; xer whole life led up to getting this false-penis and now you're going to take it away! Xe sues you for discrimination.
>While appearing in court, xer condition has worsened and xe dies. Xer family now sues you for malpractice and pain and suffering.
>You spend the next 50 years of your life paying off the court-ordered expenses.
I was never a violent person as a teenager or young adult but the past couple years have proven that I am capable of wishing death upon others for simply being loud, stupid pieces of shit
>which means as an act to counter-balance your privilege
didn't checking your privilege start out as a whiney but almost reasonable thing?
like if you were talking to a homeless black guy who couldn't get a job, and you were a white trophy wife, you would "check" before saying something retarded about how easy your secretarial job (which you got on the basis of being a sexy female) was to obtain, because a homeless black man who stinks of piss is not going to get a secretarial job based on his looks.
i mean it's not particularly a good idea, but it has internal logic to a point, it's not WE NEED A QUOTA FOR MORE PISS SMELLY BLACK MEN IN SECRETARIAL WORK.
because liberals are closet racists and deathly afraid of black people. That's why they don't want anyone to own weapons. Because they are afraid of being robbed by black people.
I don't understand the point. A safe space implies that everywhere else is unsafe, which is baffling. There has never been a better time in the US to be a gay, black, woman, mexican, ect. The only people who could argue that are still frequently discriminated against are trannies, and I literally could not give a single fuck because they are mentally ill people trying their hardest to be something they will never be. I don't know why trannies are always lumped in with gays either. I think a guy who wants to bang other guys is fine. I think a guy who believes that he's a girl even though he has a penis and biology tells him he's a guy is delusion.
>If the people doing the hiring are white males
they're usually female HR people, actually.
and of course, females aren't going to want other females taking attention from them...
homosexuality being accepted as a legit sexual orientation is the biggest win of leftist infiltrators. it's nothing but a degenerate fetish that's being forced upon vulnerable young males.
I remember reading about a study that indicated that homosexuality might be rooted on testosterone spikes during prenatal development. It might be likely that an excessive testosterone spike for XX might cause the brain to develop like a masculine one, while unaffecting the gonadic development.
On the other hand, a just-above limit spike for men would cause the female genitalia to succesfully differenciate in male one, but the brain may be kept wired on a more feminine-way. Hence the same-sex relationship.
I'll see if I can find the sauce somewhere.
I don't quite understand the use of "safe space" in a convention where everyone's general safety is just as important. Does it just mean it's just easier to break a rule in a safe space and get thrown out?
>He's just a white guy with a coat of paint
No, he's written as a person. Wasn't it George R.R Martin, who when asked how he writes women so well; responded with "well first I don't think of it as writing a woman, but as writing a person". When people take characters and identify them by their race or sexuality is when bigotry comes into play. This applies to BOTH sides of the argument.
Haven't read the image, but the world wanted Rhodesia to move away from White minority rule to (black) majority rule, so they'd be equal.
Unfortunately rather than one of the moderates winning the first election, a certain Mr. Mugabe did.
Most whites fled, they weren't killed, though.
Rhodesia also declared independence without british permission (it was a colony), unlike SA who got permission to be independent, so it was on the shitlist for most major powers anyway, plus it competed with the USA in cigar production.
>Live in Boston
>Think about getting into Wu's house and stealing all his shit every single day
> dumb shits actually believe that bullshit /pol/ graph
And I guess mods are asleep seeing as this thread hasn't been deleted.
I made this because I'm tired of putting on that fake face and dealing with these cunts. You got any suggestions for what I should say to them without completely ruining my career but trying to uphold my values?
For example, you're a game dev, you make games on your own, you take part in the local game dev communities and what not, try to network, make friends, whatever. Then you run into those fucking cunts, the type who find fucking problem with everything people happen to say. The type who can barely fucking code a goddamn Fizz Buzz test or know how to use Maya. But they talk so fucking much, people respect their opinions so fucking much just because they're "advocating for social justice" or "they're a woman or trans or some other cunt special snowflake". You're not a goddamn bigot, you support diversity in your industry, that's fine. But they're fucking cunts, and talk too much, and never made any good games. What do you do. Anyone who has said anything against them is immediately sandbagged as being a bigot or misogynist. They rule with fear and continue to do so. What would you do. You to the line or leave? Should I leave? I want to leave...
th-they went after Traditional Games? But I don't understand, those guys talk about table top games and D&D and stuff. how does that even affect sjw i mean it's just some friends getting together and playing Monopoly
I don't doubt you.
I have attracted nothing but boy pussy pretending to have real pussies because of vidya.
I'm some sort of tranny magnet and it won't fucking stop. I wish they were cute traps like the ones /v/ use to post back in the day, but no. They're all Brianna Wu tier.
Aww man Liartown's great
There's nothing you can do unless you want to make our cause look bad. Anything that would happen to them in a hostile manner would just martyr them. And you know they'd milk the shit out of it. There's nothing we can do and it makes me want to scream. That said, what should we do? What can we do? What's the next steps?
being a tranny, rather than just a crossdresser, is a mental illness.
a shitty analogy is a furry who wears a fursuit for sex (fetish) vs one who wears it because they actually want to be a wolf and this is the closest they can do and they showed up to work wearing their wolfsuit (insane), only trannies are even crazier than that and it's beyond their control.