Games where you were the villain. Morality system games need not apply.
The Hitman games. You can say most if not all of your targets in the games are bad people, but he's still a contract killer and is shown to be quite ruthless. In a different light he'd be the villain of the story.
It's been a while since I played mgs3, but while big boss does eventually become a bad guy, would his actions in mgs3 make him a villain?
I mean technically, in mgs1 solid snake is just the pawn of the patriots used to assassinate liquid so they can maintain secret world domination.
>Villains in MGS
Besides Volgin, there aren't too many actual villains in the games. There are antagonists and characters with opposing motives, but to call them villainous is obtuse.
First that comes to mind is
Maybe Blood Omen too? I know all the characters in Legacy of Kain are morally gray (except for the Elder God who is just a dick), but in BO Kain can be considered a villain, at least in the canon ending.
>In a different light he'd be the villain of the story.
That's the thing though, "in a different light"
In a different light Luke Skywalker is basically Osama Bin Laden, but since he's fighting an evil empire, he gets to be the good guy. Likewise calling 47 the villain is a stretch, since he pretty much only kills the worst kinds of scum, and in Hitman 2 he only gets back into the game to save his priest friend.
>implying Wander was evil
>implying Dormin was evil
Reminder Dormin held up to his half of the bargain when he was under no compulsion to do so, with his powers being restored and Wander dead.
City of Villains. You'll never play it though. Dead game.
But that is true thouhg, Luke was going after the ruling body of the galaxy, life to humans under the empire was nice, you were only fucked if you were some xeno, in the expanded universe
As retarded as it isit showed that everything went to shit after the 6th movie because the empire broke up in smaller clans and that fucked everything up, Luke to the people not allied with the rebellion was a terrorist
>Playah in Saint's Row
>just a goon for the gang who goes up the ranks
>everyone thought he was a silent protagonist but he actually just kept his trap shut
>4 lines of dialogue in the game
>playah in SR2
>is now the boss
>doesn't shut up for anyone
>"THIS IS MY CITY"
I don't understand how people seem to forget that this is the one guy with a heart so fucking black that the moment he entered the sacred realm everything went to shit, the WW one is also the very same guy trying to do it again, he never gave a single lonely fuck for his people, he left them to rot in the desert and infested it with wraiths and monsters to attack anything and everyone.
Seriously, why do people consider WW Dorf to be right in any wau,shape or form?
Not to mention the "good guys" did something quite vile and evil in punishing the fucking descendants of the wanderer to suffer.
It's a bit open to interpretation, but arguably the line between good and evil is not so clear here.
> Persona 3
How are you the fucking villian in that game? You're literally trying to save the world from the embodiment of Death and succeed in sealing it away at the cost of your life. Pretty heroic if you ask me.
Probably the part where Ryoji was sealed into you, who eventually becomes Nyx. Yes, you did end up saving the world in the end but you also were a part of that evil at one point.
Also I forgot Shadow of the Colossus
>mfw the game begins with you, an ancient evil, awakening
Technically not you, just
different incarnations of yourself, also your mortality. I suppose that makes you both the good guy and the bad guy simultaneously.
Also Ravel should be the real villain, she's the one who fucked everything up.
Yeah, he is an evil person. But he explicitly states that in WW, he's not trying to rule the world, he's not trying to conquer the Great Sea, he's trying to assemble the Triforce and break the cycle that links him to future Links and Zeldas. He came across as tired and sad more than anything.
He doesn't even care that Hyrule is a dead kingdom, if he can assemble the Triforce and rule it, at least he doesn't have to keep coming back and getting slaughtered over and over.
>Play indieshit jap horror/puzzle game
>Get trolled, forever
I loved the night when /v/ discovered this game, everyone collectively lost their shit at the ending.
I was a motherfucking ghost pirate who killed things by screaming at them, and had dark ghostly powers to support anyone willing to plunder the Rogue Islands with me.
>forsake an entire city and leave an omnipotent usb stick out in the open for anyone to misuse for love
Would Royce winning even be bad? I don't how much harm an autistic fuck who knows the Transistor and the Process better than anyone would do.
He would just reset everything back to square one, it's also implied that the city isn't in the real world anymore also if anyone wanted to use the Transistor they would have to wade through a city filled to the brim with things that would murder them
>Would Royce winning even be bad
Royce's actions have led to all the shit that went down in that game, you tell me if he's capable of making things right after the shit show he turned things into.
>Autist in charge of rebuilding humanity
Friendly reminder that autists are literally emotionally dysfunctional, Royce wouldn't do a good job even if he wanted to.
>also if anyone wanted to use the Transistor they would have to wade through a city filled to the brim with things that would murder them
Wasn't that the point of sticking the transistor in the hole? It got rid of the process?
>Royce's actions have led to all the shit that went down in that game
Sybil was the one who wanted Red so bad that Subject Whatever got killed an fucked everything up. Royce was just doing what the city wanted him to do.
Not Royce, if anyone is to blame it is Sybil. If anything, he is the one capable of fixing shit. Hell, dude basically found the god brush and with the help of Grant was going to reshape the world.
Thats some prince of Troy shit
>prinve fall in love with another kings wife
>takes wife back to his country
>"here m8 you cant just take a mans wife give her back"
>"there will be countless deaths if I have to come over there, noone wants this"
>"bring it m8"
>whole of troy is destroyed and all its people with it
Its was selfish, not noble, to bring chaos to the world for your own gain. How many lovers died for the selfishness of 1.
No, Royce was doing what he wanted to do. He was tired of constant change, always meeting the ever-shifting demands of a city that was unsalvageable. In the end, Red's life, the city, and even her world were all rendered unlivable. Sure, she made a selfish choice, but she wasn't the villain by any means.
You can commit sudoku to have an honorabu death and kill your hallucination waifu or wipe out the entire clan.
Debatable. Yeah, Jacket is a psychopath, but killing Russian thugs isn't that bad. There's also the fact if he didn't, he would of been killed by another 50 Blessings member a'la Biker.
>There's also the fact if he didn't, he would of been killed by another 50 blessings member a'la Biker
>killed by another 50 blessings member
And just who the hell do you think Richter was working for, anon?
I think he's referring to Bugs Bunny calling Elmer "Nimrod" ironically.
Nimrod was the greatest hunter in the Bible and Bugs was making fun of him. But now everyone uses Nimrod as an insult and only know it from Bugs Bunny and think it's a term used for stupid, incapable assholes.
When you think about it, Jacket got lucky twice.
Either way you look at it, Biker clearly had the advantage in the fight, and won, but it's likely Jacket was spared, or escaped. Richter was sent to kill him because he couldn't stop Biker, and Richter, too, failed.
Not that it matters in the sequel anyway.
Considering that the Fireflies were actually too incompetent to actually make the cure, fuck them.
Seriously, we weren't even there a day and they immediately go "Kill the only living sample for something we don't even know how to properly make instead of keeping her alive for extended study & spinal fluid harvesting"
Fuck them in their limp dicks.
>herp derp da coloseye was juzt noice anuhmuhls
Confirmed for never played the game, probably read a Cracked article or watched some shitty youtube channel for this topic.
BUT THAT'S JUST A THEORY
How do you idiots keep thinking this?
The story clearly diverges at the fight at the phone company
Either Biker or Jacket walks out alive of that fight. Jacket doesn't get put into a coma by Biker, and Jacket sure as fuck doesn't let Biker go.
Spinal Fluid can be removed fairly easily with modern medicine, even if you don't really know what you're doing you're not going to kill the patient and if you have any medical training you're unlikely to harm them at all. It's done all the time to test for fungal or bacterial meningitis and other brain/nervous system abnormalities.
Jacket's interp of the fight at the phone company was a memory while he was still in a coma. Are you gonna take the word of a man whose perception of reality is so distorted at that point that he's seen the corpses of his enemies in the stores he visits post-mission?
Even though, as stated, Jacket's victory was apparently canonical according to the sequel, so.
In Killzone SF they are explicitly militant terrorists. Like, you can argue it's vindicated all you want, but when you are given a chance to live with absolutely no hope of a successful revolt and STILL go suicide bomber every day of the week, you revoked your right to pity.
The first half of the game was paranoid delusions until jacket woke up in the hospital with a head injury. It's not out of the question that he survived. Just that his 'death' was highly exaggerated. The don't intersect at any other points in the game so it is possible.
Did you miss the part where Richter puts a bullet into Jacket's Whore-fu and sends him to the hospital? And how he clearly knows Jacket after he massacres the police station to get to him?
>He challenged and killed the angels that kept the land peacefull.
The Colossi were elements of Dormin's Soul, with Dormin being established as a powerful, but controllable Deity. The Colossi are only not dangerous to the rest of the world because they've been sealed behind magical failsafes and physical constructions like Basaran's arena and Malus' building dress thing. The creators of the Colossi KNEW that the Colossi were going to be incredibly dangerous, hence why they built so many failsafes to keep them from escaping and then sealed off the Forbidden Lands.
The Colossi are not peaceful heavenly beings, they are giant mongoloids that want to kill everyone. There are even clear signs of their previous battles and destruction. Wander isn't a villain, he's a chaotic neutral asshat with a selfish final goal who is most likely being allowed to succeed by Lord Emon and the others so they can seal away Dormin for good.
At the best he's being played for a fool by Emon, and at the worst he's just an idiot.
Uhh, when you killed those "angels" fucking shadow worms burrow into your body and a statue in a building made to seal an acient creature explodes. That's not an angel, that's a piece of Dormin that gets freed from the seal when you kill it.
Because retards haven't played enough of the series to understand what's actually going on and/or play the Hulett and other non-canon series and think they know what they're talking about.
People just need to watch at least SOME of the Real Silent Hill series so they can have a baseline understanding of the plot. If nothing else, those guys got the canon ninety percent right.