>boot up morrowind >-everything- is brown >go to belmora >more brown >join the fighters guild >start some mining quest >get to the mine >it's so brown i can barely see what the fuck is going on >uninstall and that's my morrowind story
>>284025994 If there are 9999 types of cloth the chances that you will happen to run into a set that looks good together is very slim. You will look like a clown for the first 2-3 hours of the game and the player will drop his controller and go play something else.
RPG's arent meant to be streamlined, the entire point of them is having complex worlds and mechanics that let you play as any "role" you can think of, while supporting your style of gameplay.
Just look at alchemy in morrowind compared to skyrim. You had a bunch of random ingredients you need to sample and experiment with, with 4 different sets of tools for refining and experimenting. It made you feel like an actual alchemist.
compare that to skyrim where you just mash whatever ingredients have the same effects over a simple bench.
>>284026240 B-b-but I want my left pauldron to be purple silk and my right pauldron to be a horse skull over black iron!
I disagree with you, I think that having armor be separated into at least 5 slots is perfectly acceptable. >boots >gloves >helmet >chest piece >pants Thats the bare minimum. And you can add cloak and pauldrons, for example. Having asymmetrical stuff like wearing different gloves or boots is a bit over the top. I dont care if it sort of makes sense realistically, its a chore gameplay wise.
It's nice having the option, but it doesn't ruin the whole system. Armor in Oblivion still looked good, for the most part. Are there not mods to fix that anyway? (I haven't looked too much into Morrowind modding scene)
>>284026606 I'd prefer the witcher style of alchemical ingredients, where you harvest them from supernatural beasts as well as herbs, and where you use the ingredients based on their active alchemical quality rather than their name. You can have 3-4 swamp herbs be able to replace each other in recipes, giving you different power for their particular quality. Like herb1+herb2 gives you 5 health per second over 15 seconds, while herb1+herb3 gives you 3 health per second over 25 seconds, where herb2 and herb3 have the same alchemical property, but different concentration.
>>284026982 >not wearing greaves >not putting some plates on top of your shoe
Its like you want that spear guy to stab you repeatedly in the foot. Also, "for most of history" people didnt bring steel to battles. Dont use that phrase when referring to Elder Scrolls, where the tech level has eclipsed "most of history".
>>284027006 Complex doesnt automatically mean good, you fucking autist. Being simpler doesnt make it worse.
>>284027062 >This is exactly how Skyrim works. Minus the harvesting from "supernatural" creatures. And if you remove the ability to taste ingredients to find what they do, and sprinkle some scrolls and notebooks around alchemy huts and on relevant NPCs so you can buy recipes to compensate for that, you will have a great alchemy system.
>>284027193 >we As a fan of the Elder Scrolls series I disagree with you. Now stop trying to act as if you've been elected to represent our community in some way. Your opinions are just that, your personal opinions.
>>284027338 >Being simpler doesnt make it worse. It really does, it takes away from the accomplishment of actually creating your own potions, which (if unassisted by guides) is quite difficult. Like another anon said before, it is like what one would imagine an alchemist would have to go through in order to craft a potion. Something that fits perfectly, what with the game being a ROLE PLAYING GAME.
>>284027338 >Minus the harvesting from "supernatural" creatures Atronachs, Trolls, Mammoths, Ghosts, Falmer, Daedra... >sprinkle some scrolls and notebooks around alchemy huts and on relevant NPCs Every alchemy vendor in the game sells recipe scrolls, and there are several books which describe recipes and the properties of different ingredients.
>>284028004 >and simpler mechanics stifle the amount of ways someone could play the game Holy shit, go tell this to /tg/ and have them laugh at you. There's a reason that rules light systems are considered better for roleplaying.
>>284027960 Yeah, sampling ingredients to learn their properties. I guess you have a problem with that?
>>284028275 You realize that no matter what period you look at, the vast majority of everyone will NOT be a professional mass murderer walking around the world killing monsters and people in stupidly high numbers, right?
>>284028374 >I play a character who kills lots of people >That means that there are no standards of realism any more. I should have armor slots for my feet, my ears, my hair, my nose, and my left pinky finger (but only that finger). This is how retarded you sound.
>>284028510 Except that's wrong. Eating will only tell you the first effect, unless your skill is high enough. Randomly mixing potions lets you discover all the effects no matter what your skill level is.
>>284028479 Most people in the world prior to 1940 lived under an empire. You're a retard.
It is, you fucking imbecile. Sabatons did exist. The only reason we have so few is because only the most expensive ones survive, while the shittier plain ones got melted down to make horse shoes and pots once you didnt need them.
In the tech level a typical RPG takes place sabatons would be something every soldier would want to invest in, since otherwise a person with a spear would just stab at your feet all day every day.
>>284028676 >Most people in the world prior to 1940 lived under an empire.
Stating random facts that have nothing to do with the question at hand doesnt make you right, not matter how hard you pretend. Most people in the world prior to 1940 were not emperors. Your logic is shit.
>>284028661 >hair armor You typically wore it under your mail so that you didn't rip your fucking hair out. >ear armor Ushanka >nose armor More of a "whole lower face" but yes, pic related. Why isn't "lower face armor" a specific category of armor, in Morrowind? I thought Morrowind wanted to be a real RPG.
>>284028741 This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
>shittier plain ones got melted down to make horse shoes and pots once you didnt need them People who would melt down their armor DIDN'T WEAR FOOT ARMOR. Even rich people usually didn't wear foot armor. Your feet are literally the last part of your body you are going to buy armor for. Head, then Torso, then arms, then legs, then hands, then - only after everything else - feet. If every other part of your body isn't covered in metal (which, hint: it almost certainly won't be) then neither will your feet.
Its literally taken me over a thousand hours in skyrim to realise heavy armor wearers got the shaft. They have practically no unique (themed) armors. Meanwhile the cloth is excellent. You are spoiled for choice.
>>284029091 >>284029141 >We went from Helmets, left pauldron, right pauldon, left gauntlet, right gauntlet, cuirass, greaves, boots, shirt, pants, belt, robe/skirt.
>Helmet, armor, greaves and boots.
Then somebody replied >we trying to imply I was speaking for /v/ when I clearly wasn't.
Then somebody replied saying that they disagreed with my original statement. Obviously they are wrong because my original statement is an objective fact.
I really shouldn't have to make a fucking play by play just so you can keep up with your own fucking arguments. For fucks sake you are the most retarded poster(s) on /v/. No mean feat I must say, there are some real contenders to the throne out there.
The argument hasnt evolved though, you took "we" completely out of context just so you scream and yell about how I dont represent the community, when it's clear that's what I never intended in the first place.
The fact that you would rather shitpost about syntax instead of actually addressing the points just makes you look like an even bigger retard
>>284029658 >The argument evolved and it's hilarious that you've failed to see it. If you started arguing about something else then that's your problem, my argument has remained unchanged since the first shitpost that was flung my way. See >>284029603
>>284029476 Let is sabaton for poor people, right is sabaton for rich people. The right one goes to museums and the left one gets melted or scrap, because why the fuck would you keep it? And since its so fucking cheap, so fucking simple, so fucking easy to make there is no reason you wouldnt. It would be worth a couple of meals at most and could save your fucking life.
Read a book, nigger. There are places in the world where the corpses werent looted and were just thrown in a ditch, and in these places we have sabatons from pretty much every corpse. They all worse them, because its a stupidly small investment that may pay off big time.
People who think art is a good historical source at the worst thing to plague pseudo-intellectual history discussions on the internet. Next thing you will be posting greek amphoras claiming ancient greeks were niggers.
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