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Time to school all the kiddies in this thread.
Monster Hunter is the single deepest, most challenging, most skill-based game ever created. There is not a single other game in any genre that comes close to the level of skill Monster Hunter requires.
This is why Monster Hunter threads are the best, most intelligent threads on /v/. Only the smartest, brightest, and most patient people post in them. Essentially, the very best of humanity posts in them.
Conversely, the only people who don't like Monster Hunter clearly don't have the skills to handle its depth. It is too hardcore for them. That's okay though. Games like Halo exist for people like them. Monster Hunter fans are too good to hold grudges.
This is absolutely true. This isn't simple crap like DMC where you can just change up a combo if you are playing wrong. It takes hundreds of hours of play to even be able to survive a single round of G rank. If you are playing wrong for those hours, you WILL NOT be able to correct those behaviors without more or less starting from scratch.
MonHun is just too deep to play it wrong.
>get all worked up by the fight
>it's over real quick and not even a real battle, don't even get to kill him
No game is deeper. No game demands more of you.
Kushy's kind of annoying now. His head is less exploitable, he won't stop fucking roaring, spends even less time on the ground, and you can't permanently disable the wind aura.
You roll and they can restore a small amount of sharpness.
Just got M4HU
After reading some, I want to work on using the light bowgun but I've got a problem:
Holy god who in the fuck designed these controls?
Is there any keymap settings/panel options that can make using it bearable?
git gud yeah I already know save it
Just fought my first Seregios. I think I spent more time fighting the fucking Cephalos than I did him.
But more importantly I got two dissenters. What's the best weapon I can make from this guy? I hear the GS is pretty rad.
>Want high quality pelt
THEY HAVE ABOVE AVERAGE RAW, A BIT OF AFFINITY, AND HIGH NATURAL SHARPNESS BUT ONLY A SLIVER OF THE HIGHEST TIER
THEY REGENERATE A TICK OF SHARPNESS IF YOU ROLL FIVE TIMES WITH THE WEAPON UNSHEATHED
>Want Kelbi Horn
>High Quality Pelt
>High Quality Pelt
>High Quality Pelt
No matter which one you want, you fucking always get the one you don't need.
>start playing series for proper first time
>fucked around with psp and 3 tri demos but lack of secondary camera put me off
>try 4 properly
>oh wow I'm a badass with a hammer
>finally killed gore mangla dragon thing with randoms
>get fucking owned by tirgrex because still in nycyalla spider bitch armor despite constant upgrades
>even with the aid of a lvl 4 hunter we're getting smashed on second attempt
Too much halo and checkpoint based games has killed my skill and I used to play the old contra games without the need for a partner or the konami code.
Time to get fucking good
WOAH SHIT NIGGER, I'M ABOUT TO DROP THE RAIN OF PAIN ON THE MONSTER'S HEAD. GET OUT OF THE WAY.
So /v/ which Monster would you Hunter?
I'm going to have to re-ask what this anon is asking.
I'd like to try out the Bowguns and whatnot as well, but the controls on a 3DS are not kind in the slightest.
Is there something in the options that may give me an advantage?
THANKS, BUT THAT STILL LEAVES THE MATTER OF THE MONSTER WITH THE WEIRD AFFINITY SHIT
LIKE, IT HAS BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE, BUT YOU CAN DO SOME SHIT TO ADD THE NEGATIVE TO THE POSITIVE FOR A SHORT WHILE
That's a little disappointing, but it doesn't sound too bad.
>Be completely terrified of Shagaru Magala
>Put off starting the quest, do every other available offline quest, forge and upgrade to max every path of my weapon main currently available
>Even bring along combining items to make more Mega Potions, which I never bother to do
>Completely destroy it, it barely touches me the whole fight, use 2 First-Aid Med
It leaves itself open so much more often than a raging Gore, and when I attacked its tail, it turned so that its head was right in the way of the next attack every time.
Well. Okay then.
Still a cool fight, if only for the spectacle of "holy shit so many explosions i'm going to die" and the design of the monster.
Probably Gore Magala? If you look at the weapon trees those things have gigantic affinity listed in the latter tiers.
Cool it with the caps lock bro, there's a couple of us here answering as many questions as we can.
It's a nightmare.
I almost died on the grab the fucking honey quest because I was putting my gun away, shooting the ground, aiming at the ground, putting the gun away again, reloading and so on.
I won because I just smacked them with the gun to death.
Seriously, it can't be that fucking god awful. There's got to be a better way before I just say fuck it and use the charge blade
Seriously, if I don't get help I'm going to do that.
Get a weapon with a blade.
Also, Ian is female.
Elemental resists is just % based stuff.
-3 fire for example is just 3% more damage from attacks with fire properties, so fireballs, lasers and that stuff.
Shit becomes more noticeable when you have like -10 or -30 in a resist.
THAT'S THIS FAGGOT'S WEAPONS, THEY CAN DO BOTH NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE CRITS UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS
BUT IF YOU GET THE FRENZY AND OVERCOME IT, THE NEGATIVE GETS TURNED INTO POSITIVE AND STACKS WITH BOTH THE NORMAL POSITIVE
SO IF YOU HAD -30/10% IT WOULD TURN INTO JUST 40%
Maybe try the bow first? It might give a helping hand as it's easier to use, also there are training quests on the level 1 village quest board that teach you how to use weapons.
Also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kGgyfwObSg
Guy's what's a good gathering set for High and G-Rank?
I still have my leather set, but I basically get destroyed by even a small monster when mining or gathering.
Well I was fucking 7 when I was doing that, course that doesn't make me good at all games...plus with experiences like this
>playing contra with friends after school
>friend's too slow to keep up so I'm dying because they aren't keeping up with screen scrolling
>I told them how to steal each other's lives
>they steal all of my lives
>I play alone
>mfw I have no team work skills because I consider others dead weight
You're perhaps correct, but years of current gen games and such experiences over the years makes co-op monster hunts difficult.
If I'm not smacking other players on a downed monster they're smacking me because I'm in their way, so basically I'm shit as fuck right now
No and no
I'll eventually get the hang of it.
I'm as far as finishing that quest for the potion. That's it. Was just hoping for words of wisdom on how to configure the shooty setup for the bowgun that doesn't require me to crab-claw the analog stick and D-pad at the same fucking time.
You're over exaggerating, unless you're used to inverted aiming or something. As a bow user, my only complaint is that
Using the n3ds nub isn't very precise compared to using the dpad
I do do wish that animations were a bit faster though
If a monster is stunned/paralyzed/asleep/tripped, who should get the head priority, CA or Hammer?
From the Meownster Hunter minigame. You'll unlock it from village quests, so don't worry about missing it.
No, it's not worth it, but it doesn't take that much effort so might as well.
you don't upgrade their weapons or armor
do the Meowster hunts
you get a new set of armor/weapons for each different type of monster scrap you get
there are high and g rank hunts for them as well, which gives you higher ranks of the same armor
>fighting red kehzu online
>does electric charge shit and takes out 60% of my health and kills me
>come back and die almost immediately again to the same thing
>currently sitting in shame at the base while they fight it
god dammit. i was doing so good last hunt
In a specific place, depends on the monster, though it's usually the back. I think there is a timer or something as you can't just spam it, though my friend spam mounted Gravios 5 times in a row.
They have a resistance to mounting that scales just like other status resistances. People get confused because you can still trip monsters over without mounting with jump attacks.
Fighting this guy for the first time as a tribabby was a fun experience. Wasn't expecting the sudden burst into a run with fire all over the place. He's a damn good teacher.
I miss Qurupeco.
jump attack. it you see the large yellow line where you hit them you hit them in the right spot. I believe it works like a status, and that the monster becomes more and more resistant to it, meaning you need more and more jump attacks to mount time after time.
Hammer, if they do the level 3 stand still hammer slam. Hammer KO's quicker than CA and can lead to more damage.
But, what's stopping you from both hitting it? If you are both attacking you can't be tripped by each other.
Someone might correct me but I think i'm right.
>Roll to the side
This is every fight in Monster Hunter, or at least it has been so far. This is my first MH game and I've gotten through congalala doing nothing but that without a single death.
I don't dislike the game but it's pretty basic really.
Thanks, I'll look around
I've got a few pals who play the game regularly and they wanted to make some new guys and start all over with me. I wanted to do some supporty stuff, so a bowgun with elemental damage/healy shots was what I was looking to do.
Then I almost died to a bunch of velociraptors eating me while I flail around like an inflatable tube man smacking my stupid fucking face against the ground.
Kind of puts a damper on my mood to play, but if it can get better I'll stick it out.
in HR, there is a quest where you can do a hunt a thon, you have to hunt at least 2 of them to finish the quest
i killed 4 before i got bored, but those advanced quests are great for farming mats
You're a piece of shit person and you're bringing nothing to the conversation by acting like a smug tryhard asshole who thinks he's better than everyone else.
Find some better bait.
>I've gotten through congalala
oh you poo,r sweet child
I bet you're still in LR too, aren't you
It's not as bad as you think.Just bring dung bombs so they can't gang up on you.
On another note, one expedition I did had to deal with a tetsu and a selta. Then once I was done with those 2, a jaggi and kecha.
I'm not too sure how good blast is in this game, but I know it was broken in MH3U.
The explosion is kind of small and hard to notice, just keep watching for it, you'll see it.
Any specific skills I should be shooting for with SnS? I just have the Velocidrome set slotted with atk and psychic decorations and the auto guard gem so
Atk up (m)
And it's gotten me through the game so far. What should I be planning on for the future?
Also how does elemental damage work on monsters not weak to a specific element? Should I be using a SnS with higher base attack and no elemental damage on monsters that aren't weak to that element?
You know nothing about the depth of MH, shitter. You can't even call yourself good until you've put in at least 100 hours into the game. You haven't even made G rank yet, lol.
Still don't have the game, or a fully functional 3DS, for that matter. Definitely getting it by summer's end though.
drop autoguard as soon as you can afford a better skill
Razor Sharp is nice because it attacks so fast
Atk Up is fine but SnS relies a lot on raw so Element+ is great for it, or Status+ if you're using a status weapon
if you're in groups, wide-range +15 is ok as is speed-eating if it comes naturally
evade+1 also fits well on the set
Sharpness +1, Razor Sharp, Earplugs are typically good for SnS because you don't want to bounce and you want less time sharpening or not attacking so you can actually do damage.
Was just told I'm using shit armor. Velocipray.
I'm still low rank. Should I just stick with what I have until High, or what? What Armor skills benefit me the most?
Also, I guess I'm extra newbish, but how do I gain skills like Sharp+1 and Partbreaker?
Stop this. Immediately, right now, open the 3DS and remove it.
At best, it'll fuck you up by blocking attacks that would barely hurt you, like monsters walking, and eating up your stamina and leaving you defenseless for the real attacks.
At worst, it will fuck up every guard weapon for you because you won't learn to guard for yourself. Then you're stuck with a terrible Talisman that does nothing other than press a button for you rather than something useful until you painfully wean yourself off of it.
At least that was my own experience with Lance. Might be different with SnS because of less reliance on the shield.
there are 3 different armor sets that are popular with every blademaster weapon in LR
The cenataur/gore mixed set that gives sharpness+1 and speed sharpening
Either of those will carry you some distance into HR. Velociprey is fine.
>but how do I gain skills like Sharp+1 and Partbreaker?
Sharp+1 is from cenataur head, gore chest, cenataur gloves, gore pants, and any torso up feet.
I honestly wouldn't worry about Partbreaker at this stage of the game unless you're really autistic about collecting LR armor sets.
I just want to hunt with people so anything goes
It's not, it's just that noobs gravitate to LS or SnS because mobility, size or style.
SnS is probably one of the hardest to actually master because you need to be constantly attacking if you want to step it up.
HR4 Guild is the very beginning of guild High Rank and you should notice the differences.
HR4 caravan quests is still very much Low Rank. You don't hit single player High Rank till HR6/7.
>tfw Hammer got shafted in the weapon overhauls
>tfw CB outclasses them in KO potential anyways
At least I could go back to my good old main GS.
Why do MHfags get so fannyflustered when their game is criticized?
Not him, but I've been playing since Freedom Unite and have maybe 5k hours poured into the series overall, and he's not entirely wrong.
MH isn't a bastion of depth. Most of the difficulty comes from testing your patience and endurance, and from generally all-around high numbers on the monsters.
Don't get me wrong, MH is a 10/10 series and I'm already 100 hours into 4U, but its difficulty is obscenely overhyped, just like with Dark Souls. Not to mention 4U is probably the easiest game in the series yet.
>first fight against Zamtrios
>holy fuck he's fast
>ice armor is baller as fuck
>ice beams everywhere
>charging and leaps up the ass
>FUCK YES YOU ARE THE BEST MONSTE E-
>initiates Dobson mode
God.....fucking damn it. I guess it's SUPPOSED to be silly, but I just don't like it.
It's got combo resets and timed charge attacks. And don't underestimate item usage, being able to throw out bombs at will is really good.
Plus seeing a SnS user who knows how to properly use the ledge step jump is probably one of the more impressive looking feats. Glaive vaulting has nothing on that shit.
>in reality I only played ten hours of MH3, but I'll go on /v/ and act like I'm a super pro while calling the newest installment the easiest game 'cause that's what the hip kids do
whats te best way to farm the orange armor-balls? The one after armorball+
....is it even armorball? its Rüstkugel in german...but im too lazy to look for the english name because im having to farm this stupd 2 Rathian-HR-Quest for a ruby and a plate...
>Do the Nerscylla fight for the cowardly felyne
>Why is it doing so much damage
>Why is it doing toxic poison
>Kill it and carve
That fucking cat made me fight a high rank Nerscylla despite it being under the low rank quests, that sneaky little shit.
>Not to mention 4U is probably the easiest game in the series yet.
I don't understand how you can even back up this argument. The lack of innate defense in the beginning and the improved AI knocks this argument out of the park.
Okay monster fucks, what's a good Insect Glaive for "endgame" use in G rank?
Normally I just have a set of each element like I did with dual blades, but making the "perfect" Kinsect like 6 times for over 600k Z a cost is fucking absurd. So I'm just going to make one IG and roll with it full time.
Should I just stick to a dragon element one? a blast one? etc.
>Got so many lucky drops with gems and rubies
>FUCK YES I CAN MAKE ALL THE GREATSWO-
>Broke as fuck now
I have like 7 high rank GS's waiting for upgrades and I'm stuck at 10k zenny.
I'm actually having a lot of fun with the Poison/Para IG's because they unload status like wild.
I'm going to go make the blast one soon but it gets my vote just for extra oomph.
I haven't really seen a good raw or affinity IG.
I dunno about that. I mean, I fucking love CB and it's a damn fine weapon but I still prefer hammer over CB simply because smacking monsters is way more satisfying and you're dealing KO damage far more consistently unless you're the absolute most godtier CB user out there. As for overhauls, I'm not sure what they could have improved. I already love everything about it.
Now this guy knows what's up.
>calling the newest installment the easiest game 'cause that's what the hip kids do
>I don't understand how you can even back up this argument.
The game has way too many crutches to almost delete any semblance of difficulty from the earlier parts of the game. You can Perfect any Caravan mission through mounting alone, and the Glaive has ridiculous amounts of utility and outclasses a lot of other weapons.
Combine that with the fact that they fixed almost ALL the hitboxes and removed most phantom hits, and all the quality-of-life improvements that make inventory management a joke, and the game ends up being extremely beginner- and casual-friendly.
Again, don't get me wrong, this is easily one of the best titles in the series in both gameplay and content, but they smoothed it out a bit too much.
I kinda just want the most damage, not so much the extra utility of para/poison. I'm mostly just wondering what's stronger:
Since it's my only alternatives to making all the elements
It sounds like you're basing it off the beginning of the game too much. Making LR or even HR more casual-friendly has nothing to do with end-game difficulty.
How far are you into the game?
Should I stick with the Rex Talon or Queen Rapier SnS line? Rex Talon is annoying since you have to constantly sharpen it, but Tigrex is one of my favorite monsters and I have a feeling Rathian is going to be annoying as fuck to farm. Also, will either of these weapons suffice for the quest where you need to hunt a Rathian and Najarala in High Rank?
More often than not, armor slots alone won't net you the required points to fill skills up to +10.
Armor slots are there to supplement talismans, so start farming or start getting lucky.
There are a few jewels that are 1slot/2skill points like sharpening or capture guru.
Earlier on, it's not that important. Use decorations to push you into the next skill tier if you can, or to make up for an elemental weakness. If you're not sure or if you don't have enough to bump up a tier, don't be ashamed to just go for Health since it's all-around useful and you probably already have enough materials for it.
I have a question for any Heavy bowgun main. Why do I feel so useless in fights? I go through a shit ton of bullets each fight and I feel like I barely contribute. I have to either farm mats or spend money to get back the mountains of ammo I consume and each fight is different as I'll need different ammo, most likely a gun that can pref rapid fire a weakness so the flexibility required is stupid. Not to mention when I solo hunt it's so tedious. I read about the critical range crap so I feel like a baddie anytime I stand too far away. is there something I'm missing about this weapon? It's fun, but it's so retarded at times.
I beat the shit out of, like, 5 monsters the other night with a hunting horn. It was magical. All of the fucking caravan points.
MH has become a lot more polished in recent iterations but it continues to screw the pooch when it comes to ranged weapons.
They simply aren't that useful until you get to G-rank when you get the armor skills and talismans to supplement what you need. On top of that they are relatively money intensive.
HBG is a little easier since it is more dependent on raw, but is still subject to some of the same pitfalls.
I got lucky with a talisman and am able to use Steves bow with focus and loadup at HR. The only problem is the armor I need is low rank and I get one shot by anything more than a slight nudge
Heavy Bow's DPS is through the roof if you can just sit still and fire while something else draws aggro.
It feels like you're doing nothing because you're not mounting and you're not landing the big knockback blows, but you're dealing a steady stream of uninterrupted damage throughout the whole thing.
A lot of the viability also comes from armor skills, so they're generally considered to be late-game weapons.
>Not to mention when I solo hunt it's so tedious
I honestly wouldn't solo with any ranged weapon or the Hunting Horn. It's perfectly viable to do so, but they're weapons balanced around multiplayer as opposed to solo play.
I have a regular size 3DS that cramps my hands, is the New 3DS XL a worthwhile upgrade? Larger size would obviously help, but I'm more worried about how worthwhile the c-stick is for camera control.
Hunting horn is fine solo. It gets some of the earliest blue and white sharpness in the game.
People sweat too much about songs. Keep Attack+ and improvements on only and you're golden.
Speak for yourself man, I fucking love soloing with hunting horn. The comboability is nucking futs and them buffs along with recital KOs are pure bliss.
The c-stick is fucking great. Feels a little stiff but after some hours it definitely gets "broken in" and becomes much more intuitive.
The graphic and processing upgrade is noticeable. People will argue and get into semantics about exactly how much, but going from a regular 3DS, you WILL notice the upgrade.
c-stick isn't essential, since they took out the water segments in this one which the only thing they were essential for in 3U. It can be useful, but to be honest, if the only reason you want the upgrade is for the stick and it being larger, you may as well find a cheap CPP.
You can 100% the solo game with any weapon. They're all viable.
But Horn and Ranged weapon users will have a harder time, because they're designed around group play.
I'm not saying they're bad. I'm not saying you can't beast through solo with them.
It's just that you're going to have an overall harder time when compared to other weapons.
Didn't really get to play much of any Monster Hunter games, so I went all out for this release.
I don't regret it. This shit is so much fun.
I agree with ranged weapons but again I think you're wrong to lump horn into them just because they get group buffs.
Offensively they stack up fine numbers wise. They aren't armor intensive at all since Maestro is mostly quality of life, and you can use the same skills as Hammer.
The only thing that truly gimps it is the lower KO value and the learning curve when it comes to swing angles.
But overall there's nothing about it that makes it harder than say Lance or DB.
Eh, his little angry rush reminded me of Barrioth's shoulder rush. Obviously comes out much slower, but it has the same thing where it almost seems to follow you even as he launches it.
Depends what you're after. Sometimes there are pieces that can only come from carves, and some that can only come from captures. There's no shame in looking at guides here, since you can save yourself hours of fucking around.
You've never really used a HH, have you?
I have this in an unopened box sitting on my shelf.
Was going to use it but freaked out and picked up a regular black one instead.
Can't decide if I want to keep it or sell it for like 400.
Sell it, easily. It's functionally equivalent and all you're getting out of it is a shiny faceplate that you won't even look at 99% of the time, and which you can't look at while you're playing.
So I just fought Gravios for the first time
Holy fucking shit is dis nigga armored or what? My Charge Blade was bouncing everywhere, it was a fucking chore to beat this nigga. Fuck this guy, next time I'll just take my Zamtrios Dual Blades
Just entered High Rank, I'm a
CB Userand I'm going down the Rathalos upgrade line, about to make myself a Seltas/Rathalos S/Ceanataur mix set which will give me Attack Up (M), Razor Sharp, and Fire Atk+ with my +4 Fire Atk Talisman. Gunna be good.
I'm also finally getting the hang of seamlessly switching between blade and axe as the situation calls. Feels good to have a fully charged shield within ten seconds of starting every fight, full phials shortly after, and being able to throw out 20%-boosted Axe swings mid-Sword combo.