Fallout 4 hype train now boarding on platform 3.
POST YFW WHEN IT'S STILL BASED ON GAMEBRYO
>In less than a year, there will have been a two-term US presidency between Fallout 3 and 4
>If Fallout 4 is released after January 20, Fallout 3 will have spanned three US presidencies before getting a sequel.
>"We're proud to announce first ever
Bethesda home console"
It's a press conference. That's a solid 30 to 45 minutes. That means more than one announcement.
I'd say FO4 and TES VI are given. That Battlecry game will probably get some coverage, and Arkane will spill the beans on Dishonored 2 with id sperging about the new Doom
>Fallout 3 with diagonal walking animations and d̶r̶a̶g̶o̶n̶s Cazador Behemoths
Why are you IN a Fallout thread if you don't even fucking LIKE the Fallout games??
What the fuck is wrong with you people, fuck off from these discussions if you don't even enjoy Fallout
did you ever think that maybe this one wont be fallout 4? instead a new title instead of rehashing the same series over and over :D
what anon, y-you didnt? oh o-okay
Nah the leaker who posted a bunch of FO4 animation said there still won't be diagonal running. The running animations will look the same as New Vegas most likely. It's gonna run on the Skyrim engine (duh) so enjoy having that Skill system carried over.
>hear shit about Oblivion
>it's better than Skyrim
The quests are more engaging by far and the roleplaying mechanics are superior.
>hear shit about Fallout 3
>it's all true
World makes no sense, gameplay is just shooting stuff, no roleplaying at all.
>The quests are more engaging by far
This is absolutely fucking true.
Oblivion has a lot of failings, from potato faces to that fucking dialogue mini game.
But the quest design is invariably much, MUCH better.
>traveling back from Kavatch
>stop in a town to rest
>encounter a paranoid schizophrenic who wants me to spy on the townsfolk
That's a memorable quest.
I literally have trouble recalling quests from Skyrim and I probably put more hours into that piece of shit.
It will be buggy and dumbed down compared to previous entry regardless of what engine it will use.
Oh fucking god. Imagine if it will become another fucking Skyrim? Imagine all those faggot brodudes and gamergirls acting as if it is Jesus Christ of video games while completely disregarding previous entries.
>And proudly developed by Zenimax
>Some random shitty announcements nobody cares about like new Elder Scrolls Online content or that ASSFAGGOT MOBA shit they have some studio working on
>Doom 4 gameplay footage they showed behind closed doors at quakecon
>Dishonored 2 teaser announcement trailer or whatever Arkane game is working on
>Skyrim re-release announcement for the shit current gen consoles
>Bunch of boring shit that isn't video games
>F4LLOUT CGI teaser announcement trailer right at the very end
This is exactly what will happen, I swear to god
I meant information. He said the info he was posting was known by about ~80 employees besides himself, so he felt safe posting it.
Details he posted included
>Dog joins you
>FO3 protag cameos
>robo-taxis (think GTAV)
>skill system carried over from Skyrim
>3 kinds of mutants
>big E3 announcement, they've worked really hard on the game
>Boston, mountains, forests, a university, a theme park reminiscent of Chernobyl, docks
>standard 4 DLCs planned, expanding the world map
>metro tunnels are all one connected web beneath the city
>lots of different terrains, won't be a bunch of copypasting
>run animation still doesn't run diagonally
>Super Future sci-fi
>No more open world
>More liner than CoD
>Political statement based writing with a hint of SJW
>ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBLE!!!!!
>So accessible that it even gets a strait smartphone port. Nothing needs to change between console and phone port since the game is that accessible!
>Needs to sell 30.5 million copies to break even or no more Fallout. EVER.
>Turns out Everyone associated with the production of Fallout was quietly bought by EA
>lots of different terrains, won't be a bunch of copypasting
>Falling for this again
If he was trying to bullshit people he would just say stuff we wanted to hear. I got the impression from his manner of speaking and his posts that he was genuine, but that's just my opinion.
It's not like Smash Bros where the leak could set the internet on fire, he was just sharing info because he was really excited to tell us about the game. He said specifically "see you guys at E3 ;)" and now viola, bethesda doing the first ever E3 showing. He said there would be more leaks elsewhere, on more credible sites I imagine
I never "fell for it" prior, so idk why you'd say 'again'.
If anyone thought New Vegas was gonna be different from Fallout 3 that's their own fault. Of course a game built off the same engine is gonna look and play the same
Dishonored was given franchise status by Bethesda after the sales exceeded expectations though, so a sequel is not unlikely.
The focus in this conference will undoubtably be on Fallout/Elder Scrolls though.
I'm waiting for it to be disproved. So far all I'm seeing is confirmation of something he said would happen. We'll see at E3 if he was full of shit or completely telling the truth.
i lost my hype ticket, where can i get a new one?
Im honestly trying to give a fuck but just can't...
Fuck man you are so right it hurts. I can already tell you i'm going to buy it and play the shit out of it even though I know its going to be dumbed down
Do you get buttflustered whenever you see his face?
I did too anon. I did literally everything in that game, the last thing I did was orbital strike the Citadel to get the Dirty Harry magnum, then i turned it off and never played it again after all DLC, 120 hours in
this was on xbox 360, without any patches
Well yeah, before NV pretty much everybody loved FO3. It had an attractive world to explore and was a fun RPG.
But after NV, I honestly can't go back. But to be perfectly honest, after Evil Within and Wolfenstein, I've got a lot of faith in Bethesda to be able to give good enough guidance to the devs to make them deliver. Evil Within is my personal goty and Wolfenstein was extremely enjoyable. In any case I'm cautiously optimistic.
>still won't be diagonal running
Skyrim has diagonal running already. It's the most complained about animation in older Beth games. They wouldn't take a step backward for no reason and take that away. You and/or the "animator" are full of shit.
so how will bethesda dumb down the gameplay this time
>Plasma weapons and guns get fused into just weapons
>still having faith in F4 after Skyrim
>Another lore rape story
>Exploding corpses everywhere
>SPECIAL reduced to SEAL
>Massive map with nothing to do with
>But after NV, I honestly can't go back.
You tried Tale of Two Wastelands? Fallout 3 with New Vegas' improvements; it's awesome.
Also Wolfenstein was probably my absolute favorite FPS of recent times. Didn't like Evil Within at all, though.
Please don't say such things anon. Please?
But anon, it's my edgelord bandit man character
>It will most likely be next gen
>Previous protag cameos
>From a character building game
>On a system that can't possibly have saved data from last gen
So they are just screwing over consolefags now?
Oh, if that's what bothers you, then I get that. I don't like it either. But it's the only skin that's even a little dirty. It's either that or pristine skin that makes no sense. Trust me I hate that stupid fucking tattoo as well.
I just hope they change the goddamn engine already, this isn't 2003 anymore
Download more mods fag, it's possible to make New Vegas look somewhat tolerable even without an ENB
My brother is a low level employee at one of their development buildings and he told me he's overheard chatter of an updated Morrowind and when he asked questions about it people clammed up and told him not to mention it again.
I'm fine with what I have really, I just really hope they change the goddamn engine already, it's the same fucking thing that powered morrowind for fuck sake
I was just looking for an excuse to post my strong independent gunslinger who don't needs no man
I'll buy it regardless
they could walk up on stage carting in a wheelbarrow of horse shit and slowly tip in onto the stage while explaining that this is their opinion of the consumers
and i'd still be fucking hyped
>I'm fine with what I have really
Get some more mods and I guarantee you'll change your mind, you have no excuse.
>implying FO4 won't be running on a marginally improved and optimized Skyrim engine
If they did a remake they would probably wreck by adding new features like a quest tracker and stuff. I would be all for it if it were removable. A next gen looking morrowind wouldn't bother me but I just know they'll do too much.
It's like when an artist creates something awesome and then goes "oh well I'll just add this" and it's ruined.
>now to go post my victory on la raddit! surely they will find this ROFL worthy!
>Fallout 4 announcement coming
>Obsidian not allowed near it, or any Fallout ever again
>NV going to be declared non-canon
Everything's comin up Todd
Rehashing what exactly?
Bethesda have made exactly one Fallout game, with a spin off after that being handled by Obsidian.
Pete Hines at one point said they didn't just buy the rights to Fallout so they could make one game and that's it.
Which should be obvious.
>>skill system carried over from Skyrim
well it was fun while it lasted
honestly, i stopped giving a fuck about what images i use a long time ago. back to fallout discussion,
what can fallout 4 do to make it not shit?
What would be more beneficial?
Todd Howard going to Obsidian
or Chris Avellone going to Bethesda
Howard's understanding of the business aspect of VG could tighten up Obsidians dev teams.
Avellone is known for his writing in VG and could improve an area of need for Bethesda.
Of course they do, NV was the only successful game they ever made, and it took them zero effort only because they just modded FO3.
When Obsidian has to make content of their own you get trash like Wasteland 2.
>It's gonna run on the Skyrim engine (duh) so enjoy having that Skill system carried over.
That's not how it works fam.
An engine and game mechanics are completely separate entities.
The engine is just a compilation of tools to get assets and mechanics they make to run.
Fallout and TES have completely different systems for the RPG aspects.
Now I'm not saying Fallout 4 isn't going to be dumbed down, because it is.
It's fucking Bethesda after all, each subsequent game they've made was more idiot proof than the last, but that doesn't mean it being on the same engine means a mechanic from an entirely different series is going to show up.
Fuck I just want Bethesda to hurry up with this game so that we might possibly see another Obsidian Fallout spin off again.
Maybe this time with more than 10 months given to them to make the game.
Liking New Vegas is a /v/ meme. The game is terrible. The whole map is boring with nothing fun to explore and find. And god the endings are so bad. At least Fallout 3 had awesome fun locales like the giant ship and the forest. New Vegas has jack shit. Its all desert.
At least this is one thing that is likely to never happen. S.P.E.C.I.A.L. is so integral to the FO experience they'd be insane to remove it. I think they even said that themselves during the FO3 development
If Avellone went to Bethesda, he'd probably only improve the story and aesthetic design. The structure of the game, the graphics, the gameplay etc. would still be the same old simplistic Bethesda stuff. While New Vegas was nice, the core game under the bonnet was still rancid.
I'd much rather send Todd Howard to Obsidian and see what happens.
>Being hyped for another Bethesda game after Skyrim
At least Fallout 3 was mechanically enjoyable, even if people bitch about the writing. There is going to be level scaling out of the ass, SPECIAL toned down to three letters, CoD style regenerating health, and after two years of patches it will still be bugged to shit.
I wish you guys would stop acting like saying a game is terrible just automatically discredits any fun that others may have had playing it.
Instead of saying "This game is bad" why not just say "I didn't like playing this game"?
someone wanted people to not like what they didn't like so much that they went through this much trouble....I actually have autism and this is the most autistic thing I've ever seen.
Avellone going to Bethesda
He is already keeping alive Obsidian thanks to his writing since that's the only thing people care about in the Obsidian games.
>inb4 I played NV for the shooting!
We'll find out at E3 if any of your worrying or hype is justified, please shitpost once we've seen the announcement.
Then how about you shut the fuck up and MAKE a Fallout fan sequel on their engine, if you're such a computer wizard, you whiny faggot.
>"Not made by Bethesda"
>same FO3 pictures posted all over again
It's been years, how many time do you need to repeat the same fucking things.
It's driving me crazy, feels like being in a loop.
and fallout 3 is a adventure made up of passing the same piles of green-tinted rubble over and over and over again. in addition, fallout 3 has ONE ending, followed by a slideshow with slight narration differences. i prefer the game that gives me an option whether or not to side with the technophiles.
But they didn't make Wasteland 2. But you are right about their own games being trash. South Park was even more casual than anything Bethesda has put out and Dungeon Siege 3 was panned by everyone. Alpha Protocol was fun, and Pillars might be good.
>on the actual gameplay and the different things in the world.
AHAHAHAH, they just level-scale the shit out of the world without having any real gameplay in it.
Speaking of retarded stories.
There is a rumor that the story of Fallout 4 is going to be a battle over the power plant at Niagra Falls between A modern military force armed with assault weapons and machine guns from Ronto and a tribal force armed with spears and shields modeled after the spartans.
Dunno if it is true but that is a retard level premise right there.
>Not retcon/'improve' a single previously established faction or enemy
New Fallout or Elder Scrolls exclusively coming to Xbox One. Microsoft has said that they'll make up for losing Street Fighter 5, and they have had a long history with Bethesda. They likely have finally scored the two series as exclusives for this gen, which is really going to hurt Sony. Well, hurt Sony more than their pathetic Order fiasco.
It's going to be fucking DOOM and we all know it.
I'm putting money on Fallout 4 going in the pile with all Valve three-quels and The Last Guardian named "Games that will never come out but will also never be cancelled".
You need to grow a thicker skin. People will call you a faggot and say your favorite game is shit, and you shouldn't care because they're just anonymous fuckers on the internet. We're talking about value judgments anyway, not scientific facts. They're always subjective and people shouldn't have to preface every one of their posts with "in my opinion", especially on 4chan. Someone thinking a game you like is shit doesn't discredit the fun you had with it.
>Skyrim biggest platform is PC
>Todd Howard hypes up PC in interviews
>sells out of Microsoft
>PC gets the shaft
>yfw they do a turn based fallout because of the popularity/success of indie TB games
>yfw there's default isometric view and F3/NV option view
>yfw it sells gazillion copies
>yfw real rpgs are back
>mfw these morans need to get a brian
MS has this thing called money. They give money to the developers to offset development costs and make up the potential loss of going exclusive. No loss whatsoever. Also, the PC versions of Skyrim and Fallout weren't all that much better than the 360 versions. All you had was the ability to add mods, which people only used to add weird fucking anime wives and long swords just like their hero Sephiroth-kun. The PS3 versions were shit, anyone will tell you. But they ran incredibly well on MS' hardware because MS helped optimize them. Imagine how great they'll runnas exclusives. I'm pretty excited.
>DOOM isn't a big name
Surely you be jestin'. It's a Sci-Fi themed FPS; even people who don't give a shit about DOOM they'll look into it because of Halo, Titanfall and Destiny keeping the genre popular.
I know, I noticed. They bought the rights to Skyrim as well, which fucked us gamers over.
Neither Bethesda or Microsoft cares about players, they just want to Jew you off.
Obsidians reach often escapes its grasp.
Somebody who knows when and if to drop a feature is something Obsidian has lacked over the years.
This has led to buggy and incomplete games over the years.This has led to the "Studio that franchises go to die" and Bugsidian reputation.
If you do not care about the business aspect as a dev you have a hobby in the VG industry not a job.
>All you had was the ability to add mods, which people only used to add weird fucking anime wives and long swords just like their hero Sephiroth-kun
"I've never played any Bethesda game on PC and actually modded them" -anon
>Fallout 4 by Bethesda
just kill me now
make it stop
Your RPG masters are working on
A card game
A WoT ripoff
A shitty ruski MMO
A KS RPG(Its profitability depends on people who did not pledge.It may have made all the money its going to)
It just sucks that all their open world games shine on the PC and then they put us in the backseat, even though their PC sales have been skyrocketing.
If Todd Howard won't be honest about his deals with Microsoft it's a major Toddler lying moment again.
This is such a dickless, childish argument. If you sound like you're a stupid asshole, you are throwing away your supposed opinion because you appear irrational. It's all about appearances. It has nothing to do with people feeling offended. Same reason that if you talk about black crime using the word "nigger", nobody is going to take you seriously, even if technically you are saying something reasonable, because most people who speak that way aren't saying something reasonable. It's perfectly natural associative judgement. Everybody does it.
Bethesda doesn't learn to make their games differently, they make the product that their fans buy knowing that console users will be content with it and that PC users will mod the holy living fuck out of it.
I don't have any idea what you think you're reading, I specifically said it wasn't a problem. Is this trolling in 2015?
Level-scaling makes for rewardless, unchallenging and monotonous gameplay.
Nothing in Skyrim or Oblivion was even remotely challenging whatsoever. And jacking up the difficulty level is dumb and artificial.
You're supposed to run into monsters that range from easy to impossible every once in a while, not always beatable pushoevers because the level-scaling holds your hand and makes sure every Timmy the 12 year old Xbox player can win so that when his dad asks him "son, are you winning?", he can say "yes daddy I am winning!!"
Ignore that anon. That's not what it says. It's talking about how the game rail-roads you with quests and doesn't allow any freedom. You have to either do it the games way, or not at all.
If you shoot the powder ganger at the beginning after he threatens the town, before you get the quest to deal with the situation, you're vilified. Likewise, if you find the sunken bomber, you can do nothing with it until later on when you have the quest to raise it etc.
Basically, New Vegas is lifeless.
>Everybody does it.
I don't. I always value the substance of the argument in question, not the the way it's put. If anything, being assertive, having strong opinions, and being brutally honest can often be more convincing to fair-minded people. Trying to discredit your opposition by pointing out how mean they are or how they used a bad word is fallacious.
You're making a ton of mistakes here. You're thinking people who act in such a way care about your opinion and are trying to win you over. You're thinking everyone on 4chan thinks like you. You're thinking the same boring standards that apply to real life and places like Reddit should apply to this place. You're comparing political arguments to someone calling your favorite videogame shitty. I'm pretty sure someone calling Fallout 3 a bad game without expanding doesn't care if you think he's an asshole or if they don't change your mind. Worst of all, you're taking 4chan seriously.
>HURR DURR HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THEY'D HATE ME IF I KILLED THEIR LEADER THANKS SAWYER YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE
>Find a sunken bomber
>Expect it to be a treasure you can put in your pocket or someshit and not a prop, later revealed to be a plot item
You suck at video games.
>find a plane that's been here since before the apocalypse
>expect it to have a backstory you can ask people about and raise it 200 fucking years later
And who would you fucking ask first?
The next game will be a fallout moba, using assets from 3, and shoddily handled. Bethesda wants to get in on the esport craze but has no idea what they're doing. The game is so poor it becomes ironic to enjoy. It quickly becomes mainstream and becomes Bethesda's tent pole franchise
>and being brutally honest can often be more convincing to fair-minded people
Not really. 4chan isn't fair-minded, and anyone who you deliver "a brutal opinion" to wont see your advice. They will see some asshole acting like if he thinks he's somehow better than them. Really, if you can say it without acting like an asswipe, then say it that way. Otherwise it's completely worthless as it'll just get ignored. The content means jack shit if no one will listen to it, and just because you pretend to listen to the content does not mean that everyone is willing to do the same. Learn some tact.
Because you don't seem to understand the problem with level-scaling...
Even RPGcodexes motto is doesn't scale to your level, because level-scaling is horrible and lazy in RPGs, at least the way it's done in TES...
Might I suggest you try a game like Gothic 2: NotR if you want to know what actual character progress feels like.
Just like the previous 50 leaks.
Like that site everyone was convinced about
And Smash characters.
>Because you don't seem to understand the problem with level-scaling...
I understand the problem you're talking about, why do you think I don't even though you've told me twice? It isn't the problem I've read people complain about, hence when I said that, and even then I said I didn't understand why that was a problem. Why do you think I don't know what "actual character progression feels like?" I think you need to stop reading words that aren't there.
Are you doing ok?
>find ancient relic from before the war pretty much intact
>do nothing with it
>can't sell the information to the NCR
>can't tell the BoS you found a pre-war warmachine pretty much intact
>can't steal anything from it
>can't decide to recover it yourself and use it
I guess you completely ignored my second paragraph
Anyway, I'm not saying acting like an unrepentant dickhead is always the best solution. I'm saying you shouldn't care unless you take this place way too seriously, and you shouldn't expect this place to change to fit your dull standards. There are hundreds of other forums on the internet where you can discuss games without being called a niggerfaggot. That's probably where you should go if any of this bothers you.
>because BoS and NCR have tons of explosive stockpiles and training programs to use a bomber
>because the BoS are extremely interested in conventional Pre-War technology
>because the player character has tons of uses for plane parts
>because the player character has the capability to rebuild a fucking bomber and then make securitrons command it
The reviewer is an idiot who contradicts himself in the majority of his review.
>Hurr, why doesn't this place/thing trigger a quest line?
>God, why are their quest markers telling me where to go?
He also thought Doc Mitchell had a quest line because you can tell him "You said before you had something taken from you." What a dumb autist.
>mfw I loved FO3 and FNV and there isn't a god damn thing any of you can do to stop me
Jesus fucking christ.
He complains about being "railroaded" and the world being empty and then in the same breath complains that quests don't get spoon-fed to you and that the NPCs are too talkative? That's just... Wow. Pretty much the only pertinent point he made was complaining about the fact that the map tells you exactly where to go - but I bet if it didn't we'd be right back to "the game is confusing".
It does make leveling useless because the enemies get stronger. Why should fighting bandits be just as difficult as fighting high level vampires? Why should it be easier to go through dwemer ruins at level ten than it is at level 20? That's just shit game design.
They just prefer the old school method of start at newbie town then gettinbetterville then almosthereburg then BigBoy city.
This allows clear progression and it allows narrative and progression to match up.
This method also does not work in an open world game.
>It isn't the problem I've read people complain about
"Most people" happen to be console peons on some casual console board who never played a RPG prior to Oblivion, so yes understandable.
But if you actually listened to the complaints of older, more experienced players, you would realize this is what we have against level-scaling - it is the casualization and dumbing down of games.
Level-scaling was practically unheard of before Oblivion (Morrowind's was too subtle). If this comes as news to you then it's obvious you never played games in the early 2000's or 90's.
you missed "conventional"
Energy weapons, power armor, pulse guns and solar powered space weapons platforms don't have the same technological value as a bomber that could have been made by themselves had they enough scrap
>This method also does not work in an open world game.
Funny it worked in G2 which is at least semi-open world.
And The Witcher 3 will not use the Toddler Howard method either, but it takes its influence from Gothic.
but energy weapons
are pretty much
scattered al over the wasteland
they dont necessarily qualify as
"unconventional" in the fallout universe
and are you reall telling me
that the BoS
who are obsessed with military technology
wouldnt be interested
in a god damn bomber?