>meet your shadow self
>he says you're worse than he is and leaves
My shadow would probably be very intelligent but lazy and underachieving, just like me. He would talk about how I don't care for humanity or anyone really, as I consider them intellectually inferior.
Might be a nice battle of wits.
Isn't the point of your shadow that it's the part of you you're not able to face
So /v/, what would your shadow look like? Mine would look like this.
Except with two shotas.
With my face stuck on there somewhere.
>You're stingy with money, a faggot, talk shit behind everyone's back, and like to give yourself an enema
>okay, here's your persona
Doesn't work when I already accepted myself for being a loser. I guess it might not be the same without meta knowledge and if my co-workers are there.
Probably, I don't really know what my shadow would be deriding me on. I've accepted all my failures as far as I know, it makes it really hard to sleep at night, but that's because I don't deny it.
Probably some kind of clown monster. The human version would wear a fedora and a trench coat and try way too hard to be quirky and funny.
>we can never have fun threads without whiny blogging babbies
I'd like to take your shadow out for a drink and tell him he deserves better
I'd like to think that I could, but it's hard to be sure unless you're actually in that situation. A lot of people, including me, probably overestimate their own abilities.
My shadow would be similar to Kanji's but more pathetic like wanting to be social. I just don't want that gay shit, I want a super cool donut steel OC design.
Hell, I'd like to hang out with my shadow and bro it up and play vidya. I always wanted a co-op bro, and I assume we would have some really terrific banter. If all went well we could be e-celebs or have our own sit-com.
>Hermit and the Moon
>Hermit's shadow: Numbness, loneliness, bitterness
>Moon's shadow:Shadow: Illusion, hysteria, fear, rejection of reality
I'm currently facing it apparently, anon. I'm trying my best.
I would go thru 5 minutes of self shame if it made me summon the devil on command afterwards
I feel like /v/ would be okay.
Well, I'm speaking for myself now, but plenty of us on here are apathetic losers that have a huge
backlog that they won't ever finish due to being a depressed gamer.
I miss those threads.
They're still bumping around. Not as prominently, but there are too many miserable people here for no one to bring it up.
You know, like you did.
>huge backlog that they won't ever finish
NO, YOU'RE NOT ME!
that's a real neat point anon i was pretty okay with being complete human garbage but i wouldn't want someone on 4chan to think i'm pathetic
Reminder that there is nothing worse than hating yourself
You're not perfect, but if you can't find anything you like about yourself, do something about it, you mook
>Go into the TV world with my friends and my bro protagonist friend
>Everyone discovers that in a lonely pansexual deviant who leans most towards pedophilia
>It's really awkward now because they all know that I want to fuck every one of them, as well as their parents.
>Brotag doesn't let my near his little cousin anymore
You waited until a huge sale to buy a bunch of games but let's face the facts:
you were never going to complete any of them!
A lion man, half white and half black. Perpetually burning with a black Sun embedded in its chest, the center divide appearing as if it's trying to tear itself apart. The black side appears devoid of shape, with the white side having a marble statue appearance
There comes a point where you need to accept this fact anon.
You will never finish every movie ever
You will never finish every book ever
You will never listen to every record ever
Pick the ones you like and roll with them. Looking at lots of different games isn't bad, but don't feel obligated to love every single one enough to finish it.
But what about all of those people I'll never be able to talk to about cool video games just because I never got to play them
>Not hating yourself.
>Being happy with who you are.
I think you missed a click and wound up on the wrong site. There is "literally" a meme here about a guy who looks askance at a fat bitch trying to justify how happy she is being fat.
For all I know, my shadow would be childish, scared easily and in general a weakling, I don't see why I couldn't beat the fuck out of it, is either this or what this anon said >>284616972
I think my shadow would be like Yukiko's and Teddie's.
He would tell me I'm stupid and that I can't get anything right or something.
So, who's going to be the senpai who will save my ass?
I didn't even think about fetishes. I take that back, I don't think I can face my shadow.
>You're obsessed with BDSM and want to choke and punch people while you fuck them hard, especially your childhood friend standing behind you.
Yeah, pretty much. I bounce from very upbeat to Clay levels of resentment. Also I constantly worry about people perceiving me as a monster yadda yadda.
The lion motif cause my zodiac sign is the Leo
>facing your shadow with loved ones around you
That's the real kicker
Everything you do is a failure and it's not anyone else's fault but your own. You are a spineless loser who is unable to accomplish anything that's actually trying.
You are getting older every day and every tick of every second compounds and worsens your mistakes and bad choices.
You know what it takes to fix this but you don't do it and think of shitty excuses.
Not necessarily... some of those aspects might actually be plesant if you come to terms with them. Shadow = Aspects you "deny" about yourself, both consciously and unconsciously. And when we are under extreme stress of some sort, the moments where we loose our cool or suffer some sort of tragedy, those aspects are often reveled.
>what's that shadow? wanting to get laid 24/7 is symbolic to wanting affection??? hahaha yeah, you got me good, shadow! haha... crazy shadow huh, guys?
If we take fetishes into account mine would probably be a girl or some in-between thing because I'm really into gender change transformation stuff.
>Think you can fuck yourself into submission
>They end up making you pregnant
>You don't even have a vagina
>Anon, persona isn't real and you Carl Jung was a hack.
>T-that's not true, I wouldn't deny myself cool purse-owner powers!
>You would though, you're not a fucking idiot and neither am I, since I'm you.
>YOU'RE NOT ME!
>See fagit? Told you it wouldn't work, now shut the fuck up and bend over. I'm about to do some person-centred therapy on your rectum.
>you're a faggot with low self esteem and you try to hide it behind a wall of cynicism
>you push others away and hide from the world because deep down you feel as though you'll never be loved by anyone and you don't deserve anyone's love
>yeah that sounds about right
this, I pretty much know exactly what my flaws and regrets are and accept that they are entirely my fault and most of which are too late to change and seeing as how shadows in P4 were mostly emotions and thoughts just below the surface I doubt any crazy sub conscious shit that I dont know about would surface so I dont think i would have any problem facing my shadow
Why are the shadows so much hotter
Like few people said, I also know pretty well what a piece of shit I am already. It would be really boring encounter since I doubt nothing it says would be shocking to me anymore.
Isn't it, I mean if I was by myself it would be really easy to face honestly.
I'll probably lose almost all my friends if they witness my shadow.
>mfw my shadow probably knows godfist and a lot of binds and debuffs.
If my shadow was a boss in a video game, every anon on /v/ would be bitching about it being broken for years.
I dunno, his fetish can't be that weird if he likes yukiko.
I've already gone trough a period where I was my own worst enemy. There's little negative a Shadow aspect of myself could do or say that I haven't already said or done to myself.... And that only serves to make the thought of facing my current Shadow all the more terrifying: Having no quarter to back away from accepting things as they were and as they are....
>his getting fucked by someone else shadow
Yep you are me
>my shadow is me a a child
>all of the cartoons i would draw
>all of the friends i would make
>all of the dreams i had
>it doesn't even say anything
>it doesn't acknowledge that i'm there
>it's happy and i'm not
>i have to come to terms with what i could have been instead of what i am
the point of the shadows in P4 was that they were exagerating facts about the characters, they knew inside they had some shit going on, but the shadow showed them as if they were really fucked inside, which is what made them confront them and deny them, since they knew they werent THAT broken.
I'm an undeniable asshole, I've been having gay thoughts and I know that I don't give 2 single shits about the people around me while I like to pretend that I have some sort of heart of gold.
I've accepted that. no shadow for me.
what if you have unfulfilled potential for dick sucking and that in turn caused your shadow to get aids?
Your shadow will say that you think you're greater than everyone and that you're incredibly attracted to dick.
You won't accept it because you know you're only an asshole and that you're not THAT gay.
see my point?
>There is "literally" a meme here about a guy who looks askance at a fat bitch trying to justify how happy she is being fat.
There's a difference between having self-confidence and being a stupid fat-acceptance bitch who screams at their doctor when they tell them their blubber is killing them.
>shadow revealing all of your insane fetishes to your friends
Tfw I had a dream about a doppelganger the other day
You call this shit a fucking Shadow? Jesus Christ your petty nothing problems are a joke.
"Waaaaaaah waaaaaaaaah I don't want to run an inn my hobbies are kind of gay, boo hoo I have a vagina"
Quit being such fucking pussies and get on with your life. In the mean time we'll be dealing with a psychotic murder clown who's out to kill us for reasons we probably deserve, Oh and that's on top of a lovecraftian nightmaring making a massive horror based on what it would like if our dads formed a gimp voltron
>''You're such a lazy fucking faggot holy shit, go and get a job instead of wanking to all that weird 2D porn''
>''Seriously, your mother is probably crying in her room right now, you're such a failure!''
>''Oh wait, you can't get a job because you're a fucking dummy lel :^)''
>...and then Anon got a Persona
I have already reached the level where I know how much of a dickhead I am and accepted it.
>"So they don't know about your SCAT fetish anon?"
>"Well BEHOLD! I AM THE TRUE SELF..."
>the proceeding boss fight.
>Jesus Christ your petty nothing problems are a joke.
No shit. They're small town teenagers, that's why their problems are dumb. If they were adults they'd either have more serious issues or would have already resolved them.
and that makes them not lame how? News flash, Person 1 and 2 where cast by teenagers too and they still had shit to deal with.
I already know all of my negative points and accept them so me and my shadow would probably be bros.
Every night when I try to sleep every single mistake, regret and missed opportunity I ever had in my life comes back and plays over and over again in excruciating detail, drowning myself in guilt, envy, regret and hatred to myself and my own impotence. Eventually I have to get up and do something just to get my mind off this torture.
I either have to wait until morning till I'm so tired I can fall asleep without thinking, or masturbate repeatedly until I'm so exhausted I can't even think straight.
Who the fuck needs shadow when I have my own conscience.
>face your shadow in front of your most trusted friends and allies
>it turns out your shadow is you from your most embarrassing /b/tard days
>looks like epic fail guy with an afro and wearing milhouse's clothes
>"i am le shadow, the TRUE and HONEST self"
>"now, want have a storytime?"
>tfw really into cross dressing and feminization
no chance in hell i'd face myself, im out
Like being a jrpg loving fagboy?
Everyone is overestimating themselves / underestimating their shadows.
You would have to be "with nirvana" to be able to just accept your shadow.
It's crazy to think you guys are ignoring your whole life and your experiences, there will be something that gets you.
The shadow knows you better than you know yourself.
Yeah you'd think refusing your inner self would have some spiritual or psychological consequences that could be reflected in the real world, but nope it just turns into a giant monster and smashes you. Then you wind up hanging from an antennae.
I am my shadow.
By the way, I've seen people go around doing the tarot card quizzes, hope you guys know that there is no accurate quiz, and that the Fool actually is not "better" than the rest. It's only made to do all that shit in the game.
I think it'd go something like this.
>"Hey faggot, you wish to dress in women's clothing like a weirdo."
>"You don't even look as pretty you think you do, maybe with a bit of work done you'd be the little girl but you're a lazy faggot."
>"Also you spend too much time on 4chan"
>NO YOU'RE NOT ME
>one of your girl friends is into it
>she blackmails you into becoming her bitch or she'll tell the entire school
How do shadows work?
My normal personality is a boring, pessimistic guy who faps all day and doesn't really judge others. Would my shadow be a sex addict who is really depressed or something? Doesn't sound scary to me.
Nah. Literally the only thing my shadow would say is the whole "even though you're a guy you like cute shit" or "you'd dress up like a girl if you could". Pretty much like >>284616597
>really into cross dressing and feminization
>you're always trying too hard to be funny
>you're also secretly frustrated because of your sexuality
>and you never liked videogames to begin with
>"NO FUCK YOU YOU'RE NOT ME"
guys i don't know about persona 4 shadows and shit but this thread is interesting.
Can someone post a youtube link to get me up to speed?
>All these faggots in the thread saying how they're already aware of their shadows
>The key is whether you can embrace what causes those feelings instead of pushing it away and letting it spiral out of control
But no, we'll listen to everybody here drone on about 'I already know I'm such a faggot'.
...Couldn't face mine though.
man, I don't even know. at first I laugh, but then my dick got really hard and, well, yeah.
I'd still have a dick and I don't like things in my ass, so no thanks.
but if the girls would wanna dress me up and humiliate me sure. no shame
>they specifically left it ambiguous so you faggots would do this
You are turning into tumblr, stop it.
Besides, Kanji is bisexual. He'd a protag, he'd a naoto in the vagina, he'd a Teddy in normal clothes or alice outfit.
The shadows of characters in Persona 4 are exagerated poor qualities of the character. So if a character is bored and only does shit because it sounds fun, the shadow will grossly exagerate that.
>not having extensively cataloged knowledge about which memes are from 4chan and which are from tumblr
If I had said "I can't even" then mayhaps you'd have a point, but alas your newfag is showing.
>Kanji is a dude with a few feminine interests, as well as a craving for cock, but is otherwise masculine. He gets pushed into a tv, a shadow version of himself appears, and acts like a flaming faggot. He tries to deny that part of his personality.
>Rise is a child star that acts bubbly for her personality. She's tired of being portrayed like that, so her shadow acts like a slut for attention.
>Chie likes having people around that rely on her, so her shadow acts like a dominatrix cunt.
Shit like that.
>SO YOU LIKE MUDKIPS?
>No, not anymore
>as the shadow prepares to transform and kill you it makes this face
My point was that Kanji wouldn't fuck anyone in the game.
The "he'd a" was meant to say that, based on the game, he wouldn't do anything. You are assuming I was saying the guy was tumblr for that shit. Seems like a very tumblr thing to get mad at the mention of tumblr. Fuck off to tumblr, tumblr.
Pfft. That shadow is out of his league.
>For such a "gifted" person you sure are retarded.
>Why didn't you caught onto her signals? You could've been dating for 2 years now.
>You quit college? Well that's not surprising.
>Stop using autism as an excuse for why your life is shit. You know that isn't the truth.
>Idiots who don't have a fucking job have no rights to judge others.
>Can't get friends huh? Can't blame them, since I'm sick of you too.
Pretty much all that
I think most functioning adults can.
The only reason shadows are a problem for the cast of P4 is because they're all teenagers in high school, which is the time at which most people are uncomfortable with who they are. The shadow selves exploit this by taking someone's perceived/actual worst trait and cranking it up to insane levels, which these high school kids who've probably never seriously tried to confront their inner demons can't handle.
So as long as you don't have any seriously deep-seated psychological issues with yourself, facing your shadow should be pretty simple.
High school me would've been fucking murdered.
Not sure about the "gimmick" in P1, but P2 has rumors becoming reality, and the enemy makes Shadows out of your party as well. Except they only want to kill and replace you, nothing more, so they'll dish out some insults and stuff to discourage you then try to kill you.
>mfw Shadow Maya
>oh Maya's been separated from the group
>oh she's a bitch now
>btw she has red eyes
>business as usual for everyone
>/v/'s shadow is some unholy combination of CWC and Anthony Burch
In P1, you can position your five party members in a small grid on your side, instead of using traditional "rows". This determines their range of attack, as well as the demon's you face. This way you can completely protect a character from all physical attack if you want.
I could see it just being CWC.
He's such a huge caricature of an autistic basement dweller, that most people who laugh at him despite being in a comparable situation would never think themselves being as bad as he is.
Metal as shit.
>get DQ3 final boss
I'll take it.
God of love, baby
Ahhh this is so honest it hurts.
It's been a while since I looked up anything Jung related.
Is the Shadow something you're physically incapable of finding about yourself without an outside perspective?
Or is it just that part of us that we're reluctant to admit and will adamantly deny if presented, but are aware of?
Because if it's the latter than I can sort of guess what it'd be.
Something related to cars, specifically old muscle cars.
The otherworld would be like a mix between a garage, a prison, and a childrens bedroom. I'm talking like 1-3 years old with pastels and shit.
It'd be dingy and filthy, a lot of crusty plastic sheets with mounds of old crusty bodily fluids decorating the doorknobs.
It would have to be heavily industrialized as the overarching aesthetic with the baby toys and furniture integrated into this mechanical design.
My shadow's design would be something deliberately unappealing and monstrous with an engine powered by blood.
It'd probably be a rotten mound of flesh in a trash can full of and leaking shit, sprouting out like a tree into a car and appendages dotted with eyes.
Its gnarled mechanical arteries entwined in the flesh, forming said trash can.
It'd cry like a mix between a childs cry and the sound of a man going through unholy pain.
Its face would also be one of pure agony forcibly twisted into a hellish grin.
I can keep going as to WHY I say all this.
>all you have to do to prevent your shadow manifesting into a demon that tries to kill you is avoid saying one sentence
>every single party member says it anyway
Are they stupid?
>Or is it just that part of us that we're reluctant to admit and will adamantly deny if presented, but are aware of?
That's it, mixed with a little bit of not necessarily outside perspective, but outside experience.
So is that pic of an infamous attention whore or something?
dont get me riled up like this now, post the others of
>confront shadow in front of my friends
>"behold, I am your true self! Shake my hand"
>this will be easy.jpg
>he goes for a dap, I'm going for shake
>it must be a trick! I switch to dap
>he is now extending his hand for a shake.
>withdraw my hand, try to awkwardly wait it out
>ok fine I'll switch, I like handshakes better anyway
>he wants to dap. Spaghetti is now everywhere
>next phase is attempting to properly end a phone call
Honestly I think I'd lose to my shadow. In P4 all the cast are around 16/17. They haven't experienced real life or adult relationships so they had easy shadows to beat.
At the age of 24 having lost both my parents and not to mention all the shit in between teenage to adult life, I think my shadow would easily win cause it would probably be right.
tldr: P4 cast only beat their shadows because they hadn't properly set off in life.
Are you sure a robot girl didn't stuff a piece of death inside of you?
HOLY SHIT BRO I JUST CUT MYSELF ON THAT COMMENT.
>a grey haired young man will never fix your life by having lunch with you 10 times
but on the flipside
>you will never develop a crippling dependency on some guy who just happened to see your deepest darkest secret and wins your loyalty by promising not to tell anyone and like you
>You're a depressed cunt who doesn't push himself to make social interaction
>Every friend you ever had is gone because of your stubborness and your untolerable actitude
>and you use walkthroughs most of the time in games
>NO YOU ARE NOT ME
>'what the fuck? Are you shadow me'?
>"What? No you're the shadow of me!"
>neither of us can tell who is the shadow
Uh. Shit. I guess I get all of them.
I dunno about my shadow. It would probably going on something about never wanting to be alone and using my connections as a stepping stone to make myself better while never being able to live being second best. I think.
Persona related. It's even the same as my birth arcana. This is too spooky for me.
>you're an apathetic fuck who is too weak to do stuf for himself, you have no ambition and always look for comfort
>you never challenge yourself, and you spend you pathetic existence by posting images of a fictional girl and masturbating
My psychiatrist made me do something very similar where I had to talk to my own persona. It ended with a ripped up pillow and happy pills. Safe to say I'm not allowed back anymore.
>meet your shadow
>immediately strip and 69
>fuck each other's faces and quit work to fuck each other's faces into retirement
Awww yeah, life's good.
I imagine with that with an opposite-yet-not version of me to kick me in the ass and me to kick them in the ass we would enter the most productive period of my/our lives; the greatest duo to ever make video games.
I kind of want a shadow me now.
your shadow pretty much is your subconscious. The parts of you that dwell in the subconscious because you're either ignorant of their existence or you refuse to acknowledge it.
I got mothafuckin' Trumpeter.
>Accept me anon.
>I am a shadow, a reflection of the self.
>You are not who you pretend to be.
>You are not a fat neckbeard who plays vidya all day.
>you are not as good at vidya as you think you are.
>in fact, you actually like going outside...
>and having friends...
>You even had a girlfriend once...
>You went to a party... and had fun...
>Face it, deep down you are a normalfag.
>I know how much you like to play angry birds on your walk home.
>The parts of you that dwell in the subconscious because you're either ignorant of their existence or you refuse to acknowledge it.
Sounds like something an armchair psychiatrist would love to use often.
Hey dudes you got it all wrong! Shadows aren't from specific people they're just made of the bad emotions people have or somethin'
Ehh I've already accepted I'm a childish, nerdy, short, overweight guy who has few friends and low self-esteem and absolutely no idea of what to do in social situations or in the future. I'd be nice if the shadow portrays some positive aspect I'm unaware of, but more than likely its gonna be some bullshit about pride in my hobbies since I usually hide my power level
Funny i'm a dog person
I cant find or maintain friends, I am a on again off again cheater and Its very difficult to stay on the right path, I have a rough relationship with my family and havent spoken with my brother in over 6 years, and Im afraid to dedicate myself in anything due to my constant failures.
Dont know what Arcana I'd be. My Shadow would probably tell me Im an Antisocial slut though
But she's worst girl! She can't be!
NO, YOU'RE NOT ME
yeah sure, i know im a dick so i just tell him to give me super powers and proceed to have sex with myself.
I AM THE GOD OF WAR
What if the shadow is of a person who legitimately hates themself and is mentally crippled?
Like, everything they do makes them think of themselves as a piece of shit and they struggle to pretend they don't hear it.
Would the shadow be the polar opposite of the kids in Persona 3+4? Like, it would just say something like
>"you aren't that bad man, you're just afraid of hurting anyone you get close to."
>already spent years working through personal demons and shortcomings
>we just stare at each other
Maybe if I was alone.
If other people were watching, he'd be rambling on about my secret trap addiction and how I only masturbate to futa/shemale porn now to fill the empty void that's my life. Then I'd deny it. Y-You're not me!
Holy shit badass cook persowner.
>Everyone saying /v/ would be Kanji's shadow
>Implying /v/ isn't Mitsuo
>"He who lies to God"
Aw yeah motherfucker, full edge.
>Gay guy dating high school best friend and masturbate to futa and traps because in my mind gay porn is still odd and weird
>I'm a fucking hipster about everything and I never really play games people recommend to me because I want to either discover them on my own or because they are too mainstream.
>I have a tendency to think of the worst situation possible when one mistake happens and leads me to be afraid of everything I don't understand fully.
>This causes me to be very scared of the real world
>I hate being alone but I also hate lots of people around me
>I'm an edgy 8 year old in my opinions of designs, etc
I have more terrible shit about me but my brain suppressed that shit.
What will my shadow be like?
Do your worst /v/
me : i fucking hate dota
my shadow : nu uh, you love it you slut
and then we just hang out jacking off to League of lesbians rule 34
A loser like you won't even have a shadow.
Listen, we are superior to you. In every possible way.
We can tell you this right now: you are garbage. Do us all a favor and fuck off. Stop posting here.
Never again tell us about your shitty life, faggot.
Bruh. I would fight at your side. I already accepted my Shadow, and we can help you accept yours.
Then go on heists like in P5. Cause fuck that shit if you have powers and don't do something fun with them!
You know you want it, that sweet release is coming soon.
Playing P4G right now, and I'm probably going for Naoto when she shows up later. What's the best way to get max Courage?
>MFW I realize that my shadow's already won and taken over my body
>No anon, you are the demons
My shadow would make a point to me that all I care about is ass and titties, and that the relationships I pursue are held together purely because of my lust for them.
I'd have to reply that I already knew that.
Like I give a /shit/
IT'S ALL OGRE NOW
I got some dude.
But for real, I got this guy
I would break down and cry realizing the amount of regretful mistakes I've made in the past along with my poor social skills.
Sometimes, I wish whatever shadow overcame me would kill me in the process after being defeated.