Just a classic case of envy. Nintendo is the only company routinely pumping out exclusives, they don't charge you for online, and their games aren't so fucking riddled with bugs that you find 5 in as many minutes of playing and they require weeks of patches just to function.
sony and microsoft are fucking shit by comparison, I'd probably be mad and try to justify it if I gave them money, too.
>>285204843 Millions of thread about trying to save the Wii U, why don't you own a Wii U yet, does Princess Peach smell like farts, club nintendo begging, amiibo threads. This is not just 'being positive' about games, this is shitposting.
Also Nintendo fans are incredibly defensive. Sonygger is the default response to anyone who criticizes a newly released game.
OF course Nintendo is objectively the best out of the three console manufacturers right now, so I can understand a bit of fanboyism. But it's too much.
>>285203618 I'll contribute. Why do I hate the company (as of recently)? Hardly any supply, and a fuck ton of demand. It's to the point where if you don't pre order a newly announced Nintendo item within the 15 minute window, it's gone forever. Any even if you do manage to pre order, watch out for the wave of cancellations that is soon to come.
>>285205863 Okay >Trying to save the WiiU Trash threads, hide, report, etc >Why don't you own a WiiU Trash threads, hide, report, etc >Peach threads Nintendo fans enjoy Nintendo characters, some take it too far and fetishise them, true, but at the core this is okay >Club Nintendo See above >Amiibo threads Again, Nintendo fanboys like Nintendo products, so what?
I can see where you're coming from, I really can, but a lot of this is just typical fanboy shit, that's all it is. Go on any forum and you'll see the same shite. One thing you'll notice is that Nintendo fans on /v/ like to make game threads, and they just talk about the game, play together, etc, because they fucking love that shit. Every other platform does what you're complaining about here, but you're also seeing the typical Nintendo threads at the same time, assuming they're shitposting. They're not, they're contained, they're enjoying their threads.
But also >General Nintendo shitposting thread >Brawl shitposting thread >This thread
The other platforms do it too, but Nintendo fans enjoy their games. A lot of the time, other platforms tend to be used as fodder for shitposting, ie, "BLOOD BORNE NEVER EVER" and the like, which then of course gets shitposted to hell, and Sony fanboys can't enjoy BB threads. And this sucks. But just because you're seeing positive threads it doesn't mean the negative threads don't exist
>>285206208 IF that's your prime and only view of them, then you're enforcing your opinion as logic. Not everyone sees things the same as you.
For example, why do you call them shit-quality? Do you own one to justify? Most of them look quite decent.
Why do you simply insist that they "lock back content" when they don't? The Smash Bros feature is neat, and the Mario Kart 8 content was developed afterward. The Mario Party 10 content lets you save data, progress, and items onto them, which is the full purpose of amiibo party.
>>285204204 Nintendo still makes some of the best games in the business. It's developers are some of the most talented out there.
The management is full of fucking retards though. They're clueless imbeciles that live in their own bubble where reality is what they make of it. Even on the rare occasions they actually take a peek outside the bubble and try to do what everyone else is doing they're always a full generation behind. From charging full price for games for years until they're discontinued, to not being able to keep up with demand on items time and time and time again, to their mess of an online service, there's plenty to hate about Nintendo that doesn't directly involve the quality of their games.
As for Iwata, he himself is one of the extremely talented developers I talked about. That hasn't translated so well for business. It's kind of like when Michael Jordan tried to play baseball. Just because you're a grandmaster at one thing doesn't mean you're automatically good at another.
Nintendo no doubt has the best library when it came to games in 2014, but Nintendo's shitty business practices are what ruins it. >No regular New 3DS and doesn't come with charger >Low stock >Shitty Youtube contract >Has been out of touch with the community for like 5 years
>>285207682 I think amiibos should be allowed here as vidya figures are still figures, they're historically allowed, but waifu threads are pretty much board culture. Shitty board culture mind you, but still board culture. I think it depends if you're interested in them. For example, I don't mind Peach ones, but Persona waifu threads aren't my cup of tea. They're still pretty vidya anyway
>>285207768 >They're still taking away content that should be there already
>Smash Bros That content can't be there already, you need an amiibo to save data after each battle.
>Mario Kart 8 That content can't be there already, it was developed afterward just like the DLC.
>Hyrule Warriors The Link/Toon Link one I can disagree with, as it merely unlocks a weapon that isn't already there. The rest of the amiibo uses though, they only unlock random weapons once a day that are already there.
>Kirby & the Rainbow Curse The Kirby one practically doesn't need an amiibo since it's use is identical to the already existing in-game feature, and the others just make it easier. I personally don't use mine that often because it just takes away the challenge, unless you're intending to replay levels quickly.
>Mario Party 10 People often jump at this one's throat, but it doesn't seem that bad. Even though it seems like they are locking an entire mode, if they had that mode from the start, it would be as pointless as allowing amiibo mode in Smash without any amiibos. You have to constantly use them to save data, progress, items, etc. for a variety of purposes. They still lock away the character-themed maps which is sort of bad I guess, but I don't really care about it that much honestly.
Toad - I don't know if this was developed afterward, but again not a very big feature. You just look for pixel Toad in the levels, and that's it.
Other - Any other amiibos just give you extra lives. Something that doesn't matter at all.
This one can be argued, but they already made the point that there's tons of different characters. I suppose it can affect some, but you have to use them again and again if you want to bring them back after they die. In the end, most of the people arguing against this probably aren't even going to buy this game in the first place.
>>285204673 No they're not The only real rehashes are Mario Kart, NSMB, Mario Party, and arguably Animal Crossing. But most of those series, with the exception of party, are one game per system so it isn't as bad as one game per year
Why does not just /v/, but the internet target Nintendo for everything? It's only bad if Nintendo does it? Even if Nintendo's not doing it?
>>285210732 >Region lock Only legitimate complaint >Physical DLC see>>285209697 and>>285210417 >treats all other companies like total shit Yeah, 15 years ago. Now companies like Ubisoft, EA, and Capcom fuck them over for no good reason, but It's okay when someone other than Nintendo does it. >bought out Fatal Frame and then killed the series in the west Who cares?
>>285211026 >capcom fucks them over by releasing the best selling series in Japan ever exclusively on their handheld Nintendo consoles who only relevant when 3rd parties latched onto them. This is no longer the case and Nintendo are losing marketshare in all markets because of it. Who knew treating business partners like total shit would fuck you in the ass?
>>285211092 No they don't. Are you retarded? Nintendo knows people don't care about the extra content that wasn't even necessary in the first place, they know autists will buy the amiibos for their collection. That's what they're for, collecting. It's exactly the same as just selling action figures, but at least they give you game content with them.
Also, the only case of Nintendo doing DLC bad is FE:A. EVERY other game not developed by a third party studio, but by Nintendo does DLC right.
Their fanbase, and their fucking weird policies when it comes to making games.
Metroid Prime trilogy does well? Let's make Other M, a game so bad that it kills the franchise! Mario 3D games do well? Let's make it so almost all Mario games from here on out are 2D again! We want to get back in touch with our hardcore audience, so have Fi, who will constantly nag you about inane bullshit! Guy who produced Smash games up to this point wants to work on other things and feels burnt out? Make him work on two at once!
>They're very bad at restocking sold out items >Prices never ever go down on their games >Rarely make new IPs >Console launches always weak >Online is shit >Poor marketing skills >Rewards Japan, punishes North America >Doesn't listen to consumers
>>285211736 >Extra content is bad? No. Releasing a game before the product is finished however, is fucking disgusting. If you're still working on a product after "it's finished" and charging me for it, you're releasing an incomplete product.
>>285211947 >Metroid Prime trilogy does well? Let's make Other M, a game so bad that it kills the franchise! I doubt they knew it would suck, since the series head was in charge And the reason it was ass >Mario 3D games do well? Let's make it so almost all Mario games from here on out are 2D again! What? They still make plenty of 3D ones. And yes, 3DLandWorld are 3D >We want to get back in touch with our hardcore audience, so have Fi, who will constantly nag you about inane bullshit! They admitted their mistake and ficed it with LBW and the new Zelda, that's an old point now. >Guy who produced Smash games up to this point wants to work on other things and feels burnt out? Make him work on two at once! Wasn't that his idea?
>rabid fanbase that defends literally everything Nintendo does and singles out one fanbase as their boogeyman >franchises that are old and done still be sold for full price when they're glorified rehashes >charging that much for shitty hardware in twenty-fucking-fifteen >amiibos >alienates their core fanbase in favour of casuals >there's nothing special about their games anymore, it's just 'another Mario' or 'another Zelda', etc
>fans will still take it up the ass regardless It's pitiable. RIP old Nintendo.
>>285212268 Point is, they diverted away from the Prime trilogy and what made them work, in favor of something that's basically the exact opposite. Weak gameplay, weak exploration, over-emphasis on story. I said almost all, not all. Okay. Somebody had to okay it.
>>285212252 But.. IT IS finished. Hell, every Mario Kart game up to this date has had roughly that amount of content. 8 cups, 3 difficulty levels, multiplayer, 2 extra game modes (even if they messed them up).
It's all there. They are just adding onto it to keep the game current.
>>285212048 >They're very bad at restocking sold out items It's not their fault they're cautious about overproducing games and other products >Prices never ever go down on their games That's not their doing, that's the retailers bullshit. Don't even try blaming Nintendo, this is common business practice. When demand is high, so is the price. Especially with low stock >Rarely make new IPs There are literally two IPs coming out this year, one next fucking month >Console launches always weak This is true for everyone, inexcusable but not just them. >Online is shit It's not great but not shit >Poor marketing skills Only actual problem >Rewards Japan, punishes North America What, how? >Doesn't listen to consumers Yes they did, why do you think the Zelda fanbase is the worst?
>>285212443 So you're telling me that instead of just scanning an amiibo onto the Gamepad with ease, you expect the consumer to take their SD Card out of their console, expect them to have a USB stick or go buy one for a higher price, or have a fluent internet connection?
Why would you do that when you can just have a good-quality collectible figurine that you can take with you and scan onto a Gamepad or 3DS screen?
>>285213085 >Why would you do that when you can just have a good-quality collectible figurine that you can take with you and scan onto a Gamepad or 3DS screen? Sounds great, they should make something like that.
Uh, as an oldfag who's been on /v/ since 2007 or 2008 (that is, the first, original Japan Time), I can say /v/ varies a lot regarding Nintendo, and also /v/ is not one person.
The reasons for /v/ generally liking Nintendo the past year was because Nintendo won last E3 with their treehouse broadcast and announcement of GAMES, while the competence was showing the same shit as always, doing music numbers with celebrities and showing CGI cinematic trailers without gameplay.
Before that, the WiiU was being harshly criticized by almost everyone except the hardcore nintendrone vocal minority. After E3 a lot of people considered the WiiU, many of them mustards.
None of the games interest me though. It feels lve I've already played them and smash is only fun for like a week, same as Mario kart. The fans are annoying as fuck. Their policies are dogshit and they do subtle shady shit all the time.
>>285206034 They do that on purpose, upon release they will only sell enough games to satisfy the ore order, this makes games rarer and less likely to be traded in due to the person buying it having to pay full price for a game that isn't easy to get, however this means that you have two options, wait a month for a new shipment of the game or buy from their fancy fandangled store. Wow, sure do love Nintendo. They love us right back.
Shit hardware overpriced said hardware 240p for a handheld in 2015 costing same as 1080p smartphone region-lock Nintendo first-party making the same games they did 20 years ago All around kid-oriented Their games never drop in price Ruined everything with Nintendo Wii
Because Nintendo is literally the cancer killing gaming. Rehashes, over priced under powered hardware, no account system, region locking, no third party support, autistic fan base, physical disc content unlocking in the form of McDonald Happy Meal toys. Pathetic.
>>285216002 You are partly right. There are plenty of decent Vita games. I just think it's a shame that Nintendo's monopoly is so absolute on the handheld front that they can basically do whatever the fuck they want and people will eat it up.
>>285216838 The Xbone and Piss4 have account systems, are region free, are moderately better value for money, do not require baby toys to unlock certain game features, have a shit ton of third party support and FAR superior online. In short you are wrong faggot.
>>285212587 >Alright guys, great job on completing the game! >now get back to work on it, we're not done yet! DLC is releasing an incomplete package so they can charge more for games in smaller increments.
>>285203618 Things wrong with nintendo >Refusing to accept something that's standard in this US like communicating to people online and playing with others online at the same time. Shit that's been done in the 6th gen >Region locking >Amiibos lock content away from games >The New 3DS is still a piece of shit >They're not trying to advertise to get the Wii U known, but instead milk the living shit out of their current fans >Youtube creators program doesn't even allow smash bros to be monetized
Things right with Nintendo >Working games on release >For the most part, their Wii U games are 60 FPS
>>285204637 >nonsense This is a baseless statement in context. As most replies get few replies, though, further information relays that the games barely add functionality and flow beyond first iterations; especially online and innovative game design -- leaderboards, etc. In fact, it's arguable that the game design is so substance-less, and that's the whole reason for missing features and genres from the system. >>>285205063
>>285205231 Lots of games gives no assurance for good gaming. Exemplary, almost all first party games in any console are are pretty average; but non-ninty focuses mostly on securing large IPs with exclusive content or scheduling. It's -- successful; and beyond that, Pikmin is none so a console seller: it's the same with the whole gimmick of the console, which is a $300 paywall for a "few" games.
Without a group for couch co-op, the living room design of the console is without substance; and designing a console around local play is ludicrous, because >these games on PC would secure their sales margins without console R&D and manufacturing.. because they're decent games, but probably none so "$300 for a closed-source PC" decent.
Inb4 unbased statements of "industry improvement from console exclusivity" or such. The sales are low, and indie inclusion is as well.
It's arguable that inability of keeping shelves stocked is plenty proof that they spread their ideas over more of the field than is helpful. >>>285212048
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