I have to wonder what the fuck triggers people so bad about mods and fan projects. People say it's legit Nintendrones, but that would mean they'd eat up any shit given to them. I'd be considered a Nintendrone by /v/ standards and I like all of these fan projects.
I seriously want to get into the heads of these fucking people. Figure out what camp they're in. What games they enjoy. Are they baiting or just legitimately retarded?
But Mother 4/Project M look great. I honestly don't get why people get so up in arms about modding/making fangames.
>CoD4 Promod, a mod created to make it more competitive "Wow, what a fresh, fun take on the series!"
>Project M, a mod created to make it more competitive "God damn, what a load of shit, could we just get this banned already?"
And with Mother 4, they're NEVER making a new one. If a team of people put out a fantastic video showing a Viewtiful Joe game they were making, looked great, and called it Viewtiful Joe 3, would people be upset? No! Y'know why? Because they're NEVER making a Viewtiful Joe 3. Why is it that with Nintendo IPs people get so furious about it?
>>285337861 >It's just a game who cares what its called nobody here cares if you fags honestly can't tell that everyone who acts like they're offended by Mother 4 is baiting you might as well have the brain of a 13 year old
>>285338604 I am so baffled at how the name could legitimately upset people. Does Mother 2 being called Earthbound change anything about that game? If they called Mother 4 anything else what would that change? Fucking nothing. I think Mother 4 is a nice clean name and using a subtitle would have been tacky.
>>285339025 It's a fucking fan game, it's already tacky. Calling it Mother-anything is pure arrogance, plain and simple. The series holds a special place in many fans' hearts, and these guys are co-opting that for their shitty fan game.
>>285340341 >It's a fucking fan game Exactly my point. It doesn't matter. You don't care if about shitty mario flash games on newgrounds so why do you care about this? I love the Mother series and i'm very excited about this game. Not everything is made specifically to cater to you. You're just as bad as SJWs that think all games should get rid of sexy things because it offends them. Get over yourself.
>>285335401 Project M is my favorite Smash New Paper Mario looks cool but didnt they make Twink a Luma and make the egg-guy Bowser Jr.? Probably other stuff too that I'm forgetting I mean besides PM the other 2 aren't anything special. If there was a holy trinity of Wii mods it would be Project M, CTGP, and Newer SMB though
>>285341993 yeah, i really love the music. like i said, i'm not too excited since it will probably not be as well written as the previous games. it will probably play the same (except it looks like they're including a press turn type of system)
They're not advertising it as an official sequel. They're advertising it as a fan-made sequel, and even then, it's moreso of a "spiritual" fan-made sequel. It's been confirmed none of the plots or characters save for Mr. Saturn (who are a staple of the series, so why not?) are carrying over to the fangame.
>>285338604 >>encourages tourneyfags and the developers think they're better than nintendo devs
But if the game they make is more fun to them than Smash 4, why take away their fun and make them play something they don't like?
I mean, you might as well say any ROMhack or mod or fangame is automatically shit because how DARE they change something the developer made. If it's more fun to the people that wanted it, what's the issue? People don't spazz out at Super Mario World hacks or Pokémon hacks or Steam workshop or whatever.
>>285344718 Saying it's a sequel does not mean they're calling it an official sequel, you twat.
If you bothered reading their posts on Starman, Q&A on leddit, and that one thread in the archives where they've admitted they've been lurking our threads (but haven't been posting), and started answering questions, they have no intention, and has never intended to be an official, or direct sequel to the Mother series.
Every official Mother game has story-links to eachother.
Mother 4 does not. It's just a simple fangame with Mother 4 as the game. It's intending to play and act like a "spiritual" sequel, but it's not intended or envisioned to be a proper, or true sequel to the Mother series.
It's just a bunch of Mother fans, making a game for Mother fans. It's a sequel, but it's an unoffical, fan-made sequel. They're not trying to be the next Itoi, they're just making this game for the already existing Mother community.
it's that people are stealing IPs. That's why most people get mad. Stealing good IPs at that.
What gets me mad is that people actually look forward to or like them. I'm like the rest of /v/, in that the opinions of others enrages me. How can you be hyped for mother 4? if it was called anything else, you'd never have heard of it, but these guys just steal an IP and get attention, while I'm being an actual creative person and creating my own worlds and ideas, and even if my game is beyond my expectations, it can still never gain traction and fall into obscurity, dashing my hopes of being part of the industry.
When all I should've done was named it "call of duty rpg" or something.
Mother4 looks like it'll work on it's principles as a solid game and the only people bitching are the ones about the title.
Project M is a fanhack for people who just can't let go of Melee and need to have their favourite characters in the game. Also, the fanbase is whiny as fuck about anything past Melee, so they're kind of got a shitty rep.
Yeah but if I had a game where a man called Cannoli saves a woman called Princess Grape and called it Super Mario Bros 4(or Super Mario Bros 5 depending on how you see SMW).
Would it make any sense? No? Even if I made it look pretty much like Super Mario bros 3. What the hell would I be doing trying to call an unrelated story and characters just with similar gameplay, artstyle and music part of the Mario series even unofficially?
Daily reminder that Nintendrones would literally worship Mother 4 and the ground it rests on if it were being made by Nintendo and Nintendo made people pay for it, as opposed to Mother 4 being fanmade and handed out for free.
>>285346007 Maybe because I'm fucking interested in experiencing another Mother game, fanmade or not? I wouldn't have heard of it or been interested were it not being designed to be similar to the Mother game. If it were designed like a Dragon Warrior or Final Fantasy or Fire Emblem or what the fuck ever kind of game, I still wouldn't be interested in it, despite those IPs being much, much bigger than Mother.
And if your alleged game is good or fulfills some sort of niche that no other does, it will have a fanbase. Look at fucking Yume Nikki.
So making a FREE fangame is stealing the IP now? It's a fan-made, unofficial spiritual "sequel". They even said they'd stop if Nintendo told them to (this game's been in the works for 5 years now and they haven't been told to stop). They said they'd change the name if Nintendo was going to make a Mother 4. They even tell people to buy Earthbound on the virtual market in hopes Nintendo WILL make an official Mother 4. Mother fans want a new Mother game. Itoi specifically said he won't make a new Mother game, but he'd be interesting to see what a Mother game made by other people would be like. Itoi said he wants to be the player for once, not the creator. A bunch of fans want to pay back to the community, and make a Mother fangame. The largest collection of Mother fans on the internet (starman.net) are absolutely hyped. It's literally only a bunch of /v/ that's pissy about the name
Even if it wasn't called Mother 4, and ignoring the name altogether, it looks like a great game in general.
but it's not a mother game. It's just called that. It's like wanting to eat some chocolate, but I bring you some bread, and call it chocolate, and you eat it while yelling about how much you want to eat chocolate therefore the cake is chocolate.
I got the analogy. it was just wrong, and not what is actually going on with mother 4. What would change if it wasn't called mother 4? No one here would've heard about it and it'd fall into the pile of the other countless free rpgs that no one has heard about.
>>285346404 That's an entirely different, and stupid comparison though.
It wouldn't work for Mario because the game's built around Mario's name.
Mother literally just means "Mother Earth", which means to Itoi that "We're connected to the world". What makes Mother game to the fans, and even Itoi isn't even the story, or the gameplay. It's the experience and journey. If Itoi made a Mother game with no relation to the previous games same for artstyle, writing, pacing, humour, it would still be a Mother game (not just because of Itoi's involvement) if it fit the experience.
What makes a Mother game isn't fighting aliens, Giygas, Porky, or Pigmasks.
It's balancing very serious, dark tones with very upbeat, quirky tones, and pop culture references done in good taste.
If this game can match the writing of previous Mother games, it would fit a Mother game by that style. Mother games are known for the experience, not the story.
PC game modders actually make their full mod games different. Counterstrike isn't just Half Life is it?
Whereas Mother 4 is a Mother 3 clone with a different story. These specific Nintendo game modders and fangame makers aren't creating anything actually new they're reproducing something we already had. .
>>285347156 Your post would make sense, but it doesn't. The devs only came together to make this game. Before making this game, literally none of them knew eachother. They're just a collection of Mother fans. Once they release Mother 4, there's splitting up for good.
Only one of them said he will continue making games, but he said he's changing his internet identity because he doesn't want to ride off the fame of another person's franchise.
>>285346984 No, it's like if I want a specific kind of chocolate that isn't any longer in production, and somebody copies the recipe, makes a few tweaks, and starts shipping it out for free, while you beat your chest and throw shit at the walls in between posting "BUT IT'S NOT OFFICIALLY MADE IN THEIR FACTORY, SO HOW CAN IT BE CHOCOLATE?"
>>285347156 >ill-gotten gains If the game is good how the fuck are the gains "ill-gotten". The name does not affect the code, music, writing, or gameplay of the finished product. They still had to create all that content. Calling it Mother 4 did not wave a magic want that did all the work for them. If the game is good and the devs make a career of themselves it will have been more than deserved.
>>285347890 Did you even read the entire post? It's a free game. They're not gaining anything.
They're not some indie game company, they've only came together for this game, and are splitting up and not making anymore games with eachother after this.
This isn't them trying to start a career off of another franchise. They're making this game for the fans for free, and fucking splitting up, parting ways, and changing their internet identities if they continue making games because they don't want gain fans over another person's work.
>>285347890 I don't know how many times and in how many fucking ways it has to be said that THIS GAME IS FREE. They were no donations, no patreons, no kickstarter. They gained NOTHING from this venture other than the satisfaction of making a game that deserved to be called Mother 4. Whether or not that is the case we'll find out when it comes out but don't act like this was some secret cabal to make money off Itoi.
>>285347890 >I didn't read what I was replying to: The post
You can't be that stupid, anon.
>Free game >They have never made a game together before, and will not made a new game in the future together >they're splitting up and changing their internet identities so they won't have a fan following
>>285338604 >Developers think they're better than Nintendo devs. This is what I fucking hate about smash discussion on /v/ They've said before that making Project M is nowhere near as hard as making an actual game from the ground up Don't fucking lie
>>285349227 considering the team said they're not going to brag about making the fangame, they're splitting up after this, and changing their internet identities so they won't gain a fan following from another person's franchise.
That doesn't really seem like a sense of self importance
>>285349471 No, it still does. I could make an identity of Leonadi-Da-Vincey and go tape up my Mona Lisa 2 into the Louvre and tell everyone to get their ass to the Louvre to check out my sequel. Then the next day I change my name to Bob Anderson and pretend Mona Lisa 2 never happened. But that would be false humility, because I still think I made Mona Lisa 2 and at no point did I change it to Smiling Woman, as inspired by the Mona Lisa. Fuck no, I made a sequel, its fucking great, and how dare you think I'm audacious! I changed my identity and everything just look at how humble I am!
>>285351127 Maybe it's because /v/ never left the 2008 mentality where it thinks that defending the integrity* of the Mother series will make Samtron take a second or two out of her suicidal life to notice them
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