Now that the dust has settled, what is your opinion on Depression Quest?
I find it very artistic and inspiring for women in video game industry everywhere.
As someone who actually played it, I found it intensely boring at best and highly insulting to depression sufferers at worst.
The people behind it clearly have no idea what they are talking about, and are forced to rely on sad piano BGM to make the player feel something.
As a game, it sucks. But if something as complexly lackluster as Depression Quest can exist, it gives some hope that I could make a game too someday. If Zoe Quinn can make a game, ANYONE can make a game, and that's something that a lot of people can get some hope out of.
Not in the nude photo shoot that got leaked back when shit hit the fan with her. She wanted to be a Suicide Girl or something. Her body wasn't sexy or anything, but she wasn't fat. Skinny and the curves of a dry spaghetti noodle.
Not very inspiring considering she slept with people to promote her game.
With that said, /v/ was manipulated easily and GG itself is just a vehicle female developers are using to promote themselves, and because of GG, Zoe Quinn makes more money than ever.
I was wondering why all those male gaming 'Journalists' wanted to bang her in exchange for giving her good press.
Not anymore, I assume. Depending on how desperate they are.
>your failed three gave birth to a glorious 8
It feels good in my bones, brother.
Fuck me and I didn't know she was that fat, I never seen pictures from the neck down.
ive never actually even seen a mere still of the game
its almost like she never cared about promoting her games.
either way i never cared about all this drama.
all i can do is give my opinion of what this thread offers, and that is a picture.
she is absolutely hideous, not only her sense of style, but her absolute neglect of taking care of her body.
furthermore her posture and the fact that its a lady drinking beer at what im to assume is daytime given the natural lighting on her body, lead me to the conclusion that she is an uncultured swine.
i dont care much for people that dont lead their lives after an artistic ideal,
much less the ones that, despite that, still claim to be "artsy and creative"
>With that said, /v/ was manipulated easily and GG itself is just a vehicle female developers are using to promote themselves, and because of GG, Zoe Quinn makes more money than ever.
This. The only thing GG did was give the people they hate more attention, prominence, and money. Oh, they also dialed up the autism to max for everyone to see, which just gave journalists and SJWs leverage to use against the gaming community. Turned a non-issue into an issue.
I work with a person who is literally like her, can't code for shit and takes the credit for everything, and if you try to bring up a problem during development she literally screams people out of the room, but its okay because she is someone's daughter so it is advised you don't directly to her, and that you if do engage in active criticism (whatever the fuck that means) you save any problematic bits to yourself because she is a sensitive soul.
Really given women the right to vote was a fucking mistake. Hitler's fanbase were literally women.
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Depression quest is about someone feeling a little sad, not depressed. Depressed people don't leave the house. They don't interact with anyone. They push everyone away and withdraw from society. Then they stop taking care of their house or themselves then become even more reclusive and are too ashamed to leave the house or let anyone in because at this point it has turned into a literal garbage dump and they stink to high heaven.
I'm speaking from experience. Glad I got over it.
It's pretty mediocre overall, the writing is shit, it doesn't really teach anyone about Depression except for the specific variety that she went through and the endings are all a variety of "you tried".
Not to mention taking pills doesn't work for some people but it's perfectly fine in this game and works 100% of the time, yet the main characters refuses to touch them for a while.
The Hyperbole and a Half post about her depression was 100 times better and it wasn't disguised as a shitty "choose your own adventure" game.
i dont care anymore /v/, would stick my patriachry enforcer in that
>bbw Quinn might actually be an improvement.
HER HEAD IS SO TINY
whats even better than that, she was invited to GDC to give a speech about humor in games, she spent the entire show talking about Too Many Cooks
thats right, and our company told me that i had to go.
We hear you GG, please keep going
Flash game that ended up on steam because the dev whored herself out to the media for attention. Worst genre.
>using depression quest as inspiration
It's shit. Pick the options which society tells you will make you happy and you win. Should you stay inside or go out partying? The "right" answer is obvious, but none of the influence associated with depression (being too fucking apathetic/self-loathing/etc. to do anything) is actually captured in the game.
Also, check em.
But women like Zoe put in the bare minimum of of effort into everything they do, and then dial up the self-congratulatory egoism that's inconsistent with their accomplishments. If you question their credentials, they have an army of white knights to attack you, and defend her.
So to her, her little foray into sadness was the same as the kind of depression that a quadrapalegic vetern with burn scars feels, and don't you fucking dare question her feelings!
It does a good job relaying the state of mind of a chronically depressed person to the player(taking away your ability to seek help. even though you know you need it you will always find a bullshit excuse.). But the reason for the depression is just pure shit and comes off as a whiny millennial hipster faggot.
>i have a job
>i have a gf
>i have my own place
>i have a family
>but im somehow depressed as fuck
It's setting the bar exceptionally low, but everyone's gotta start somewhere, and the first step is deluding yourself into thinking that you can actually make a game.
>Zoe Quinn made a (very bad) game. So can you!
As a person who suffered from depression for years, I felt the writing was very hamfisted and simplistic.
I feel like the game was less about helping people understand depression, but rather give them a shitty, unrealistic cookie-cutter example of it, and it's coming from someone who doesn't understand. But the writer wouldn't know that, since she doesn't understand that in the first place.
Bunch of straight white cis males revealing their privilege in this thread.
heres the thing, before the faggot janitors kill the thread
Everyone is losing money and shifted focus to SJWs, they dont read or support anyone near as well as regular gamers do.
Sites are losing money, the 3 big detractors of GG are buying page views and are trying to cause as much controversy, there are huge layoffs planned for june.
Magazines are a dying medium, and no one goes to shitty tech sites anymore, they use reddit, hell go look at /r/games and tell me how many giantbomb/gamespot/kotaku/polygon links you see
a fucking shitton, they pay good money for that, and GG is worth about 1000x that in marketing force alone.
That's not the point
>THERE ARE RUMORS THE NEW 4CHAN OWNERS ARE PLANNING ON IMPLEMENTING A SHADOWBAN SYSTEM, INSPIRED BY SHITTY WEBSITES WHO USE IT
By the way, you aren't shadowbanned
And why do some of you faggots find her attractive? She's literally landwhale incarnate with neon hair, a shit manipulative personality, 0/10 appearance and no skills of any interest. Even as far as landwhales go there's so many women out there that are so much more fuckable than her it's laughable to even consider.
Completely disregarding any buzz, news, or press around Quinn or the game:
It's utter shit, and probably the worst game I've ever played. I honestly do not know where to start on this game.
Let's start with the structure of the game. It's absolutely atrocious. The game styles itself an interactive fiction game, but gives you choices that you can't do, simply because "you are depressed". This a bad design, and just serves to distract the reader from playing the game and/or break what little immersion there could be. While I have never been clinically diagnosed as depressed before, I think I can assume that depressed people can still do night work like other people or talk to their girlfriends like human beings. Despite the large amount of choices given to you, there are essentially two endings, a good one, and a bad one, with variants on each. There is no room for additional playthroughs, because of how little your choices matter or how little anything changes beyond the good/bad endings.
This might be salvageable if the game was written well. It is not. I have seen (and written myself) middle school assignments with more creativity, better prose, and more coherent structure than this game. From a literary standpoint, this game is an overtly verbose mess, with ridiculous amounts of backstory being explained in optional links that are sealed off after certain slides. This backstory is critical in certain situations, and you either have the choice of reading paragraphs and paragraphs of (missable) text to attempt to understand certain character actions, or avoid them and be confused when said actions take place.
The characters of this game could not be more generic, derivative, and bereft of life. The main character is a blank slate, who has no character traits beyond being depressed. Why is he depressed? That isn't really explained. He has a nice job, a nice apartment, a loving girlf- sorry, "significant other", and people that love him. He's whiny.
and Zoey has proven more than a few times that she's a massive sociopathic cunt ever since the goober goo shit.
>every fat tumblr feminist would sell all of their ideals for a body like this
>furthermore, they probably would all get very naked and degrade themselves for not that much money, relatively speaking
>Quinn points to the Too Many Cooks video as a prime example of how you can keep a piece of comedy fresh over long stretches of time by constantly shifting tone and peppering in fresh jokes about topics that complement the main joke.
WHO LET THE BUTTERBALL OUT OF THE OVEN BEFORE IT WAS DONE
Confuses depression with not being happy, shit game, dev cheated on her bf, lied about it, which violated her definition of rape, and played along GG to get attention.
Awful game, awful dev, awful shitposting, op
It was just a bad game, made by a bad designer.
There's really not much else to it.
But...she didn't. I don't understand where this controversy comes from, the person who worked for Kotaku she slept with never made an article reviewing her game, and when he promoted it, that was long before they were in a relationship.
He promoted it a day or so before her relationship but it's still not really that big of a deal in the long run. It just sort of became a symbol for the whole "journalists and indie devs are in bed together" more than an actual prime example.
>He promoted it a day or so before her relationship
But anyway, the controversy erupted from the fact that people thought she slept for good reviews, which is not true. If it was, I could fully understand why people would be upset. But it's not. Not that I like Depression Quest or Quinn, but it's hard not to paint her as the victim when she's getting death threats over a misconception.
Alex, your significant other, is a cookie-cutter love interest. She has no real character traits beyond her love for you. If I didn't know any better, I'd assume that she was the product of the author's wish fullfillment. Depending on the choices you make, she either leaves you or stays with you, and this changes the way that the MC acts drastically. Note that the MC's life seems to entirely depend on her and her affection, since without her, he falls apart completely. Other characters have even less personality, existing for mere handfuls of scenes.
The presentation is also horrid. There is little music, which is poorly done at that, and is otherwise sparse and minimalistic. This limits the amount of investment we can get from the story further, since there is nothing to amplify or even hint at emotional tension. The game is boring. It isn't fun, or tense, or exciting, or in fact much of anything at all.
This is the worst game I've ever played, but you knew that already. The people that liked this game aren't on this website. You came here to hear shit about the game. How many threads have we had that have gone exactly like this? A hundred? Two hundred?
I just don't understand why we need to keep having the same discussion over and over again. I would much rather have the debate and harassment that Quinn sees as personifying GG than this stale, armchair revolutionary bullshit.
This is common fact guys, he wrote the Game Jam topic that was primarily about Quinn and then they went on the Vegas trip which was when the alleged cheating happened according to the sources.
It's not even hidden, and I'm not claiming they instantly got together and broke a shit ton of rules or journalistic ethics or whatever bullshit, but he was promoting her and her shit when they were close friends and on the way to becoming a sexual relationship.
This is why it sort of became an icon for /v/ and GG or whatever at the time for Indie devs and Journalists despite not actually being an actual jounalistic ethical issue exactly.
Really this took like 2 seconds of googling to find out, are you that lazy?
Am I the only nigga who would suck this idiot's tits?
Aaaah, fair enough. I've never worked on one of those so that's probably why.
As for this thread in general, Depression Quest was pretty bad. I mean, knowing that she knows nothing about depression personally makes the experience a bit disingenuous but even beyond that, the engagement was poor. The pacing was poor. Visual feedback was poor... everything about it was just badly done.
I don't think anything is wrong with her specifically. She's just a cutthroat entrepreneur doing all the shady shit that entrepreneurs do. But she's a bad designer, bottom line.
It was really bad and misrepresented depression.
>ddoses a radfem charity group and circlejerks with friendos on twatter over it
>then lies when confronted
>uses youtube's DMCA system to take down a video critical of her
>lies (probably?) about murdering some dude
>cheats on her boyfriend with multiple different dudes
>milks victim complex for as many dollarydoos and media attention as possible
>purposefully plays up >muh misogyny in games industry and helps to drive away young women that thought about becoming devs/proper journos/etc.
>still the victim
She's wearing padded bra you can tell she has no chest to fill up regular bra's. Basically the little chest she has is being pressed against her fat torso and being pushed to the sides, that shit will look hideous without a bra, believe it. Imagine pancakes flapping around.
Other wise known as the best genre around.
It's exactly what you'd expect from a story about depression written by someone with self-diagnosed depression.
And it still flares my balls that they used Robin Williams death as a marketing tool.
>The Hyperbole and a Half post about her depression was 100 times better and it wasn't disguised as a shitty "choose your own adventure" game.
My thoughts too.
ZQ thinks her experiences are universal and presents them as such, which rings hollow. AB is just telling her own story, not claiming to represent all depressed people, which feels truer.
Of course my experiences of depression are closer to AB's post than what I've seen of DQ, so I may just be coming at this from my own bias.
And this sets aside whether ZQ is really depressed at all or has something else wrong with her. I'm not going to judge. As far as I can tell, either she or her ex is a sociopath and it's impossible to tell which.
when the SJW site called Giantbomb invited her to come on, despite the fact she hasn't actually been involved in making ANY GAMES EVER.
She was invited over a male developer just because she was born female.
Tell us more. I didn't get to go to GDC this year
I think it moved. You fuckers keep posting her. But there's someone I'd fuck more. Pic related.
and she's had more sex than anyone here
men need to stop settling
From a purely unbiased standpoint, I hate the game. I battled with severe depression and suicidal tendencies for most of my teenage years, was even committed and drugged to hell and back for a few months. Not only is the game horribly misrepresentative of depression, its downright insulting with its bullshit "HURR DURR THINK POSITIVE TO FEEL BETTER!!!" It shouldnt exist because Zoe has no idea how depression works and is a cunt for it
That room is whiter than Christmas morning
What the fuck happened to you white people?
Seriously with her weight fluctuation, her kooky clothes and her constantly changing hair cut/colour, every picture of this bitch looks like a different person
I swear I wouldn't even know you guys were bitching about the same woman for months if you didn't explicitly mention her name
Damn son, she really got around before her shit got blown up.
I'm still disgusted that people actually had sex with that thing, but I know there's plenty of thirsty betas in gayman that would fuck a lot worse than her.
>Are you happy?
Like you don't even fucking know, anon.
>she hasn't actually been involved in making ANY GAMES EVER.
Depression Quest is a text adventure and thus a game. Unless Zork isn't.
But has she made any others? I saw her "Waiting for Godot" adaptation
which was just an endless loading screen, reeeeal original there, a game of absurd conversation would actually be fun but noooooobut haven't seen anything else from her. Far as I can tell she's "famous for being famous". But my twitter friends seem to like her, so meh.
I won't be happy until I stop all those womyn hating grumblygumbly misogynists in their tracks!
Zoe Quinn is a caring, kind, beautiful, intelligent, creative, thoughtful person who deserves to be commended for her courage standing up against an ignorant world who dares to look down on those who are different and brave.
you're absolutely right on everything except not thinking there's anything wrong with her specifically. She's a sociopathic manipulative cunt who, after emotionally abusing her boyfriend and wrapping her pussy around anything that moved solely for personal gain, got to play the victim card and be a face of the feminist movement in video games by framing actual depressed betas. Then the Epic five guys maymay rolled around and she basically got to double dip on victim status while being as much of a feminist as a hentai protagonist. Fuck her.
you, read this
>Confuses depression with not being happy
So how exactly do you define Depression other than "a persistent negative state of emotions"? It's basically sad pampered first world self-pity, not an actual disease. Learned behaviors aren't diseases, and self-pity is a learned behavior.
I had almost forgotten about the drama with wizardchan. What an absolute cunt.
But anon, her game was Kojima's 2014 GOTY
I really don't feel bad for wizard chan though
high level NEETS are gross/spooky motherfuckers
>hur why do I have to shower
>I just stole and licked my little sister/niece/cousin/neighbors dirty undies
>ISIS appreciation thread
>FUCKING GAS THE NORMIES MOM WERE IS MY DINNER
Why yes, let me trust some 16 year olds opinion over a century of professional geniuses in the field of psychiatry. It's best to not talk rather than open your mouth and prove to everyone you know absolutely nothing.
I'll try to summarize my feelings from what I can remember.
it's complete shit, the story is boring, the soundtrack is uninspired, the UI isn't even trying, the prose is amateur, and all the characters lack depth.
I can never bring myself to get invested in the story or care for the protagonist, but that's fine since he has a supportive gf, loving family, and pet to care about him instead.
also it's an unrealistic depiction of what depressed people are going through making the entire thing pointless.
Holy shit she's fat as fuck. How did I not realize until now this was the reason there were no photos of her from the shoulders down in the mainstream media?
>Why do mods sometimes allow goobergate threads?
someone sounds triggered.
>dubs chan is a laughing stock of a site
No need to get insecure, faggot.
>you're absolutely right on everything except not thinking there's anything wrong with her specifically. She's a sociopathic manipulative cunt who, after emotionally abusing her boyfriend and wrapping her pussy around anything that moved solely for personal gain, got to play the victim card and be a face of the feminist movement in video games by framing actual depressed betas. Then the Epic five guys maymay rolled around and she basically got to double dip on victim status while being as much of a feminist as a hentai protagonist. Fuck her.
That's some hot conjecture there, oniichan.
>player character of depression quest
>has a job
>has his own place
>has a gf
>BUT MUH FEELS STILL FEEL SAD ;_______;
That's some fucking self-indulgent SJW faggotry right there. "hurr I have a perfectly great life but I'm just not FEELING IT, yknow? feel sorry for me!"
A real developer could've produced a game that actually hits you right in the feels. I mean, shit, I can barely play Icepick Lodge games because they literally soup me in bleak, depression-inducing slavic nightmares.
As someone diagnosed with depression, this annoys me.
Also when I hear Depression Quest I just think of some fucked up, fetishistic version of that monster sex game. Where the goal is to cause as many women to become depressed and broken as possible... Through giving them the D.
I'm not reddit bro, I was a NEET myself
People have to enable you, either your family or the government, barely any NEETS find a way to sustain themselves indefinitely without leeching.
I don't care if you are, preaching wont fix you if you are already one, but I don't have any sympathy.
>Just like how cancer is a whiny persons disease and a result of a lack of God in the persons life.
>Cancer is just like Depression!
Get the fuck out.
>Why yes, let me trust some 16 year olds opinion over a century of professional geniuses in the field of psychiatry.
I'm older than 16, and probably older than you. I'm also pretty amused that you trust psychiatry as a valid and well researched field of medicine. I'm glad you trust people trying to push medications at you since they validate your feelings of self-pity, but I'm not here to sell you anything.
And no, it's best to discuss things instead of keeping things to yourself, because if you never argue with anyone or try your opinions against others, you're just some faggot that sits in his tiny pond declaring himself king. I've always despised that quote.
>They want to taken seriously as cultural critics and teach the world how to do things
>Don't even get doubles or baneposting
How can anybody take them seriously. Will they even get loss.jpeg?
I had a friend who had an unpaid internship at Gearbox and they let him playtest BL2 (and put his name in the credits, accordingly) and he wouldn't shut the fuck up about it, telling us about all of his "friends on the staff" and the "big changes" he got to make.
This. How about a game about a student who doesn't really know where they're at in life, yet they continue to accumulate debt with no job because they have no discernible skills, and they have no friends whatsoever, and their family abandoned them? And be sure to include how it's a major struggle for them to just get out of bed because of how bleak and hopeless ever
>mfw all these CIS fucking shits in this thread
>mental illnesses aren't a real thing and should not be taken seriously, man up!
>Mom, why do crazy people keep shooting up my schools and bombing my buildings? This surely has nothing to do with me ignoring a serious issue!
Why the fuck is this bitch being asked to give presentations anywhere? There are literally thousands of devs with more experience and talent than this hack. Her 'game', was a fucking webpage with a few hyperlinks and some background music. The fact that Depression Quest gained the attention it did is an absolute disgrace. This bitch Quinn has next to zero technical skills. She can't program, she can't produce in game assets, the only thing she can do is write high school tier melodramatic bullshit. It really kills me whenever I see someone like this put in the spotlight and given media attention, especially when I personally know people with 100 times the talent and knowledge of this cunt, who struggle to get the slightest bit of notice.
>filename isn't Jabba The Slut
You had one job OP, one fucking job.
>Wimmenz with muh depression
Hey /v/, did you know that Quinn didn't even write Depression Quest?
A man named Patrick Lindsey did.
Wholly unrealistic. I have an idea for a game. It's a seven-day-long game that loops with some elements changing at random each time. You go to school, get poor grades, chicken out of applying for jobs, sit alone in your room all day playing a video game, and get excited when your phone vibrates, even though it's always just a telemarketer.
I always knew you were a good guy, Frisbee