>Someone brings up women having unrealistic body standards
>Someone tries to counteract it with "b-b-but men!"
That thought is combated by the fact that you also see fat and nerdy guys find success. Characters don't need to have washboard abs to get the girl. Look at any number of sitcoms where the lead is a fat middle aged guy or a nerd yet he has a hot wife/gf. Since you see multiple types of guys successful in every way, a chiseled body doesn't register as a necessary attribute.
Women don't really get both sides. Female love interests are almost always good looking throughout all forms of media. Examples of a woman being desirable due to her skills regardless of physical appearance are almost non-existent. It stands to reason that seeing this one-sided presentation of success trains women to recognize physical beauty as a necessary attribute and care more about appearance.
explain why Tali is/was among /v/'s most popular waifus then
Just another reason why women are inferior. Fat women who believe they can date a really handsome guy should do what fat guys do, ask out a billion of them until they make one laugh or find a chubby chaser.
Same reason why tsumugi is queen of waifus.
>sexually desirable as a love partner due to her skills
Reminder that sage doesn't do anything.
>Look at any number of sitcoms where the lead is a fat middle aged guy or a nerd yet he has a hot wife/gf
You know this is TV and completely fictional, as in, not realistic, right?
Unless you have vaults filled with gold bars, you won't find a supermodel as a fat nerd.
>this fool thinks according to Jim is a documentary
Or you know lose some weight fatass, being fat should a crime you can go to jail for
The point is that men are told that they can be successful no matter what they look like, while women are told that they can only be successful if they're physically attractive.
I like her thick. She's fucking curvy too
>Look at any number of sitcoms where the lead is a fat middle aged guy or a nerd yet he has a hot wife/gf.
Oh yeah, the bumbling dad stereotype that portrays men as incompetent morons who's only purpose in life is to fuck up for comedic effect so their sensible wife can show how to do things right.
Such a positive portrayal of men.
Difference between men and women is that men aren't jealous bitches.
Man sees a fit guy
>wow cool maybe I should hit the gym harder
Woman sees a fit chick
>wow what a fucking fat shaming whore
Because women without question always have shit personalities and lack the drive to get skills instead of begging for quotas and handouts from men, women go eat shit.
>That thought is combated by the fact that you also see fat and nerdy guys find success. Characters don't need to have washboard abs to get the girl. Look at any number of sitcoms where the lead is a fat middle aged guy or a nerd yet he has a hot wife/gf. Since you see multiple types of guys successful in every way, a chiseled body doesn't register as a necessary attribute.
maybe name a couple examples in video games then because despite what console manufacturers and shitty devs want you to believe video games is not the film/tv industry
It doesn't matter what men are told, if what they are told is out of sync with reality.
The only way ugly men get pretty women is if one or more of the following applies:
1. The man is rich
2. The woman has daddy issues
3. Did I mention if the man was rich yet?
4. The woman is a chubby chaser
5. Seriously, the man needs to be rich
6. The woman has suffered from some sort of severe trauma that puts her off of reasonably attractive men
7. Seriously, the man needs to be loaded if he hopes to get anywhere.
>He says this from the safety of the internet because he'd be labeled a misogynist if he said it in real life
I do say it in real life and do get labelled a misogynist by women like you while all the men silently nod and agree
here's the deal. You need to accept a few facts before you start trying to change shit
1. Gamers are predominantly male and have been for a long time. That 50/50 statistic is bullshit. It uses statistics from pretty much anything that is considered a game. ie: phones, ipads, ect. So, when you're grabbing muhsoggyknee female tropes from AAA games, you're doing shit wrong because the AAA demographic is predominantly male. Accept it.
2. People want to look at attractive things. It's what we like. The guys are ripped, the women are ripped. There are very few games with intentionally ugly characters. Hell, even max fucking payne looks pretty good and he's drunk as shit and bald.
3. Comedy is not the same as drama. When you play video games, the story is almost always drama. When you throw around "LOOK AT SITCOMS", you're trying to compare apples to oranges. Fat fucks with pretty wives is fucking hilarious BECAUSE WHY WOULD THAT EVER HAPPEN? It's absurd, so you laugh. Games are not working with this idea. Games are working with "what makes this dramatic/interesting", and as we see from point one, it's interesting and way more plausible that beautiful people are with beautiful people
So, with those in mind, you're basically complaining that women are too pretty in games. Sure, maybe they are. But you, specifically, are attacking the point that there are lots of ugly men in video games, and that is simply not true.
> Examples of a woman being desirable due to her skills regardless of physical appearance are almost non-existent.
this harkens back to my 3 main facts. This statement is also true: Examples of a man being desirable due to his skills regardless of physical appearance are almost non-existent.
prove me wrong
>watch/play/read something targeted towards women
>the female lead is presented as average and homely
>gets ultra-wealthy 10/10 billionaire princes fighting over her
Tokyo has a whole street dedicated to this stuff. The sword cuts both ways.
Let's be fair here. That mostly arose as an antithesis to the earliest sitcoms where the dad/male lead was basically the ultimate font of wisdom(e.g. The Andy Griffith show). It was subversive.
It's not like Seth MacFarlane is the only one making sitcoms.
>It stands to reason that seeing this one-sided presentation of success trains women to recognize physical beauty as a necessary attribute and care more about appearance.
It obviously doesn't based on how many obese women there are.
You have a heart condition? Nigga if your doctor is cool with it you should do some cardio to strengthen that shit too
Everyone should lift, hot or not. What does being hot have to do with it?
you should If you're like me and average girls make you harder than "hot" girls.
like, i know hot girls are attractive, but there's just something about an average pretty girl
>The point is that men are told that they can be successful no matter what they look like, while women are told that they can only be successful if they're physically attractive.
Whereas the reality is that men can't be successful in dating without being attractive or rich, and women do need to be physically attractive to find a mate and physical beauty matters more to their worth. You're arguing in favor of lying more which seems retarded. The solution isn't "have more fat ugly women", it's "have less fat slob dads".
The only reason it's even set up that way in SITCOMS and not VIDEO GAMES by the way, is the relatability that children have to the image. Meaning that as they get older, many children will have fat dads and moms that still look kind of normal. While it's not to the extreme displayed on TV, it's something that many middle class white americans can relate to.
He would get punched in the face if he said that in real life.
When you grow up and enter the real world, you will learn that not liking something does not give you the right to say bad things about them.
>>herp de derp I made a hat joke guiz! ^__^
Such a razor sharp wit you possess.
>not a single Fabio
I always wanted to read one of those just to check it out. Maybe it's all a self-aware parody but noone with IQ above 70 bothered reading it.
I am already grown up and living in the real word, and if someone ever punched me in the face for offending them I would make damn certain that they would have a fat lip afterwards.
Freedom of speech =/= freedom to be an asshole.
>He would get punched in the face if he said that in real life.
Pretty sure most of the guys on websites like Return of Kings don't get punched in the face on a regular basis. I mean, the guy you responded to is probably skinny or fat, but nobody is going to assault you for the opinion that women tend to rely more on handouts and quotas than men. They might think you're an asshole and refuse to associate with you(which is a common trait for far left and right retards), but they're not going to strike you.
>implying I wouldn't yell back and be twice as cruel if someone thought they could yell at me
>implying I'm not in better shape than most people, and I'm a man, good luck "beating me up" with your retarded hipster friends
You're an idiot.
I can say whatever the fuck I want in real life because I'm not some gurgling autist like you, and so people don't find me reprehensible from the start, and wouldnt because of my opinions, which no reasonable person cares enough about to attack someone over.
Well, actually, it is the freedom to be an asshole. It's just not freedom to have other people associate with you after you're an asshole. They have free will too. Though I would argue that much of what SJWs do would qualify more as harassment than simply expressing freedom of speech, but there you go.
Post invalidated, autist is not an insult.
Men carry fat differently to women.
When a woman gets fat it just piles onto the already fat bits, so it really just enhances their curves, to a certain point. Obese women are just as disgusting as fat men, but a big of chub on a woman only serves to enhance.
When a man gets fat it just hangs messily off of everything, making him look floppy and gross. Men are supposed to be lean and flat, women are supposed to be thick and curvy.
>not being able to identify a fellow supreme gentleman by his signature prose
or maybe it's simply that you haven't yet taken the time to notice that men such as you and I share rather iconic speech patterns. There are a few common tells that can illuminate you to the fact that you're not dealing with yet another of the simpleminded throngs. I leave it up to you to uncover them!
also keep in mind that the fat dad on sitcoms is harmful to men as well. He's always a lazy, drunk, dumb bastard and the woman is allowed to make fun of him
Just look at social media. Women are allowed to claim superiority in something over men. Men are not allowed to claim superiority (not without backlash). It happens all the time. Women are allowed to call men stupid, or call them ugly, or basically say anything they want about a man.
Men cannot do this to women. We were brought up to treat them with respect, and part of this is sitcoms. The man almost always treats the woman right, unless he's cracking a joke which he always reconciles for if he goes too far.
The woman in the sitcom is not accountable AT ALL. she does what she wants when she wants.
These examples are what our children are looking at and its destructive.
so (not you specifically) fuck off with this "men can achieve anything no matter what they look like" bullshit, that is not the problem