>>286019660 If the Ouya had an audience, the streaming device should do OK. The controller will do alright despite the incredibly shitty design, don't know about it technically though. Steambox will probably break even, VR is iffy but if it works without a bunch of bullshit I'll get one.
considering all the hardware and manufacturing is being handled by third-party manufacturers. No.
Valve is not going to lose by this move. All they can do is gain due to more people moving to their platform. They've already realized they've reached their entire market on the PC thus the only logical move is to expand and try to get the console retards in as well. By pushing the hardware cost and everything else onto third party manufacturers, they have close to 0% risk in this project but a hell of a lot to gain.
I kinda wish they kept this design. I know it would mean a lot of stupid people would try to use the directional buttons as a D-pad instead of the circle pad, but it would have been better for more PC games that require a lot of buttons.
>will launch at same price as consoles >$50 more for lowest tier and won't be able to run shit >VR that will require a beat to run, therefore eliminates 80% of steam users >ripoff of vita tv At least the controller is apparently good. So they'll sell controllers.
>>286019660 I used to be confused as to just WHO Valve was marketing towards until I overheard a few guys talking about it. They were excited that they could finally get a gaming PC without having to build it themselves. Most people on here don't realize that there is a HUGE market of people who want to get into PC gaming but are a little but too stupid to understand what they're doing and a little bit too rich for their own good. I think that the steam machines will net Valve some big bucks IF they can actually get more games supported for Steam OS. Right now it looks promising, but they need to iron out some kind of deal with other big-budget non-steam publishers. For example, if Valve could make a low-end system that was fairly cheap (~$500), and if they could get League of Legends running on it, they make a fortune selling a machine marketed specifically for MOBAs. That audience is massive and are mostly about to start getting part-time jobs, which means that they are going to want something easy to understand that can play their game for a few years.
>>286019660 No. These are basically prebuilds with their own system, which actually isn't their own because it's debian based. You're not going to tell me that $2000+ builds are for consolefags that might want to try out PC gaming, these are for enthusiasts who have more money than brain(to build their own). At the same time - one of those "gaming" machines has i7+integrated card. It's not a gaming machine by any chance.
Instead of pushing few basic specifications(like CPU+GPU combo) in 2-3 price ranges they've gave pre-build manufacturers freedom to do anything they want. There are too many options for casuals(some of which are misleading see above) who came from consoles and overpriced as hell for passionate so whp's the target audience.
>>286019660 Steam Machines: "...plus the ability to locally install and play your choice of over 1000 native SteamOS titles." So they actually managed to fuse the worst of both worlds - the proprietary, closed source nature of Windows and the nogaems of GNU/Linux derivatives. Unless Gaben manages to convince the bigger companies to codevelop for the new platform - and by that, I mean doing more than slapping a Wine layer around it and praying - this is going to tank.
>>286021805 No, the general public hated 3D movies and they mildly tolerated the kinect for a year and absolutely hated it after a year. It's a gimmick guy, what little hype VR has will be wear off in a few months.
>>286021901 So basically the price of a console controller, that's unfortunate. I'll have to wait until some idiot friend gets one to demo it, because I already have controllers, that thing would have to be the fucking hypest ever to waste more money on a PC exclusive controller.
>>286019660 Seriously the Steam machine is the most ridiculous thing I have seen in a while
Grossly overpriced hardware in an ugly form-factor, gimped OS and games, none of the optimization of a console, the ones that are more powerful run almost 2x the price. I'm guessing it's just because the manufactures of said Steam machines expect them to fail. I saw a guy earlier who said he would shill on /v/ every day for it too, I'm concerned of valvedrones overhyping it
Link is honestly nothing special, but it's good for the price point if it works well. I mean it's essentially a Vita TV
I don't even fucking know what to think about the controller, I just cannot even fathom how that thing is comfortable, but who knows
Valve needs to ditch this fucking "steamOS" bullshit unless they're going to turn it into a fully functional linux desktop environment.
If they did that, it could actually be useful and would directly compete with windows due to the massive install base that steam currently and the urge to change from windows to something else.
However, this steamOS bullshit being home theater pc shit is just a retarded move. Their main goal is to push away from the windows platform and all that jazz, yet they don't want to implement a ton of features that people need (being able to write/code/all the other functionality that a pc is supposed to have for productivity related reasons) and would have gotten if it was a proper linux distro.
This was an incredibly poor move by valve. They should've made steamOS be a lightweight version for home theater pcs based on an entire steam distro for linux.
Anyways, steam machines wont be popular but perhaps the steam link will. The controller is retarded. Using a touchpad for sensitive control in a game where mouse+keyboard is either incredibly frustrating because of the amount of times you need to raise your finger and reswipe, or it's incredibly inaccurate and frustrating to use which would just cause a lot of players to sit in front of the pc instead.
The only thing this controller might be good for is games like the ones telltale release which require minimal user input.
>>286022032 The general public would be more amenable to 3D movies if you didn't have to fucking fork over like $20 to see that shit. The tech itself isn't what turns people off, it's the egregious price gouging when the cheaper option is still fine. It would be like if you had to pay more for 60 FPS as opposed to 30, people would "hate" 60 too.
>Their main goal is to push away from the windows platform and all that jazz, yet they don't want to implement a ton of features that people need (being able to write/code/all the other functionality that a pc is supposed to have for productivity related reasons) and would have gotten if it was a proper linux distro.
No, it was pretty clear their objective was to bring PC gaymen to the living room.
>>286022701 All of those are pricey as shit, with the exception of the 3DS, granted. That idea was just fucking stupid for myriad reasons, the launch handheld being apparently made for ants not helping matters.
Although speaking personally, I just don't see a point in moving to 3D, when what I've got sates me just fine, so perhaps you have something. I don't loathe the new tech, I just don't feel it necessary until it both competes in price, and also can be shut off at will.
>>286019660 >controller no, a few hardcore steambronies will get it to be LE EPIC PC GAMUURRRR (which is the most ironic shit ever, but whatever) >link thing fuck no, absolute bust. probably sell less than 1000 worldwide. >steam machines again, steamplebs will buy it because MUH GABEN but actual PC users wont because it's just not as good as a normal build it yourself case >VR shit noooooo, will flop HARD. gonna be extremely niche as long as it doesn't become way smaller and cheaper.
Valve is trying to market their shitty prebuilts to the console audience as an affordable alternative to building their own since many people see that as complicated, but they completely fucked the "affordable" idea.
A lot of people only use consoles due to their affordability. Who the fuck does Valve think they're going to sell their $1,000 machine to?
Steam controller and the Steam Link will definitely be bought. The VR will be bought, but in lesser numbers and the Steam Machines won't really be popular. The Link is a nifty little machine that lets you stream onto your larger television, so I guess the average consumer will see some appeal and they would also want to try out the controller with the Link. So its likely going to be bought together, but as for the VR, that costs more money and so far there are only a few games that support it and are interesting. Steam Machines are expensive and no one wants to spend that much money.
>>286019660 Only thing that is negligible is the Steam Machine, but people have been buying prebuilts for years, why stop now?
The rest are guarenteed to be a hit. Anyone who disagrees just doesn't understand the market and who Valve are targetting. Just because it doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it doesn't appeal to everyone else. The controller is going to play great and Steam Link will be better than hooking my laptop to the TV. VR I'll wait till after Oculus releases before considering.
>>286023449 OnLive did not stream from your PC to your dedicated machine. It streamed from an external server not located in your local network which generated a ton of input lag.
You should tryout steam inhome streaming from your gaming PC to one of your other devices and reevaluate your opinion. It's pretty much like playing on the device itself (unless you're playing a shooter game like CS. You will notice the 5ms delay on that. But games like the batman arkham games or similar will be just like playing on the host machine).
>>286023350 >no, a few hardcore steambronies will get it to be LE EPIC PC GAMUURRRR (which is the most ironic shit ever, but whatever) Will the controller only work for steam games though? I'd buy one if you could use it in browsers and navigate Windows with it.
Why does everyone here think the Link will fail? It doesn't just stream games, it can stream your whole desktop. For people not owning a HTPC this will be a great alternative since you can use it for streaming movies too. And for just $15 more you get something that's better than a $35 Google Chromecast
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