How can you hug a song?
This is the only thing I feel like loving right now
Could...could Kumatora be the proof that anonfags and SJW tumblrina's can find common ground?
Yes, but Kumatora is an especially high quality anime tomboy. Or at least a high quality JRPG tomboy.
Mother is one of the best JRPGs on the NES/Famicom, but it's still fairly archaic. If you've played RPGs from that era you should be fine. If not, eh, try it anyways. It's no worse than a Dragon Quest game, besides the final dungeon which can be kinda awful.
No, because this "war" between the two autistic groups goes beyond gender, even if tumblr tell you that, even if the anons and the SJWs found something they both love in the same way, it wouldn't be enough to end this bullshit
>As a child
Mother 3 was released in 2006 and the fan translation was in 2008.
man i loved earthbound 2 shame we will never see it formally released in the states.
I'm actually playing Earthbound for the first time and loving it. Let me stress that I remember watching my brother's friend play it back when I was like five. So while I never played it, I do feel nostalgia towards it.
I've always loved JRPGs, especially its cousin of the time, Chrono Trigger. Don't know why I never really attempted playing until now. I just don't like to try "new" things too often, find myself always replaying the games I've already played.
Do I do Mother 1 or Mother 3 next?
mother 1 plays like a more old fashioned JRPG so if you want more of the same but try three then one
Earthbound is the least enjoyable game in the series, and has the least great music. Mother is easily the best. Lloyd is cooler and more likable than Jeff. Teddy is better than Poo in every way. Kumatora may be best girl, but Pippi is pretty great. Ninten is more of a character than Ness ever was. THe dance scene with Ninten and Anna, Teddy's death, and Lloyd saving the day were some of the most profoundly emotion filled scenes on the NES and in the series.
Being one of my favorite games ever, I would. There's just this certain charm that it has that the others don't, but get your body ready for a fucking grind and a half, especially at the mountain where everything is broken to shit.
You don't fight on the mountain. You run.
>Teddy is better than Poo
But Teddy's just Poo with no PSI.
>Pippi is pretty great
Yeah, actually. She is, but I like Paula better. Oh well, to each their own.
He doesn't though
>Loid is cooler
>Mother1 has asthma
>Earthbound has homesickness
i cannot remember if mother 3 had any sort of effect like that.
Must have forgotten that scene. But the point still stands. Poo is pointless because of how broke Flash and Rockin' get. She's just another Ness with no healing. unless you broke the game grinding Ninten, Teddy is a welcome heavy hitter in the mountains. And outcast nerd bro who hides in trashcans, pilots tanks, and likes explosives is totally cooler than... Jeff.
But hey, opinions.
in the original Japanese version the after credits thing doesn't show up so a lot of people never saw teddy dancing every night.
so he could be dead
>liking Lloyd ever
Lloyd fucking sucks. That nigger was useless the entire time he was in the party. When I got Teddy, I thanked the gods because I finally had 3 competent fighters. Then that stupid fucker knocked Teddy out of commission in the HARDEST FUCKING PART OF THE GAME.
Fuck Lloyd. Lloyd sucks.
Fevers? It wasn't in battle but being slowed down all of the time was slightly annoying. Maybe the region Mother 3 takes place in is a lot more hot or something so they just get sweaty after so much fighting and with all of that psychic stuff flowing through their minds.
But yeah I don't recall anything like homesickness or asthma happening in battles. Heck asthma was just a thing you got when enemies like the devil car shot out smoke at you, and I don't recall it happening anywhere else. Homesickness was a thing Ness could get between some certain levels in any fight, so they're kind of different, I suppose.
Loid doesn't build explosives, Jeff does. Arguably better in my opinion.
May as well post the entire Mother soundtrack.
>Mother Earth, Eight Melodies, Fallin' Love, Wisdom of the World all there to make you cry like a bitch
>those boppin' battle themes
>The motherfucking Paradise Line!
>magicant, Pollyanna, and Bien' Friends are all glorious, beautiful songs
>creepy haunted house and cave music,
>dat great tune from Easter/Youngtown that would later become Paula's theme after a 16 bit downgrade
In my opinion Mother 1 was a lot more mystical feeling than the other games, and the music really set the mood for it all. It was extremely comfy.
>that one npc that tells you that no matter how hard the real world hits you, and no matter how much stress people give you, Magicant and it's people will always be there for you when you need them, and that you can have as much of whatever you want there, and do whatever you'd like
everybody loves you here, just remember that
They said no crying until the end, but I just couldn't help myself.
Mother 1 had some based music.
Not sure how that capital S got there.
Anyway, Jeff is cool and all, but Lloyd is just such a bro, and being a loser that mans up for his friends makes him better than a cool kid who makes explosives in my opinion.
Least great. As in still great, but not as great. I still regularly rock out to EB music, but Mother is just too great.
Electro Specter and Carbon/Diamond Dog were the fucking coolest bosses, holy shit. Electro for its looks, Dog for the fight.
And I love these two town themes:
>dat reference to Pollyanna
Okay, I can dig that. It's not that I don't like Loid, I just like Jeff a bit better. The tank part is cool as shit.
Jeff's not a cool kid though, he's still a loser.
That is the perfect fucking word I've been looking for when describing why Mother 1 stood out to me so much. Everything felt so cozy and dreamlike and Magicant felt like fucking home.
No fucking crying until the end
>Magicant felt like fucking home
That's kind of the idea
>teddy and the robot
>loid coming in with the tank
on his deathbed telling you he always believed in you
They... They said no crying til the end. But that wasn't the ending. How was I supposed to not cry?
here. I may not be the biggest fan of the less coherent music in Earthbound (like the cave and giygas's themes) but this one song singlehandedly got me excited for Mother 4.
You're not crying, y-your eyes are just sweaty.
Probably why the Mother 1 + 2 soundtrack version of Snowman sounds so aesthetically different from Mother 3+'s rendition of Snowman.
On the topic of the. Mother 1 + 2 soundtrack, it's kind of cool how the all the songs from Mother 1 feel "different" than the songs from Mother 2. For example:
Mother 2: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=buaKk9MGfvI
your picture reminded me of the greatest enemy of all time
>tfw when you'll never have a little alien bro to raise and play vidya with
>we will never get Mother (or Earthbound Zero) on virtual console
>we will never get Mother 3 (or Earthbound 2) on virtual console
>In return for raising him, He'd teach you how to use PSI.
Dude, >>287923905 is right. Lloyd is pretty bad. He's useful in the sense that it's nice to have another body around that can kinda do steady physical damage and can kinda tank hits which Anna can't, but Teddy is way better, and Jeff is also better at his job. Lloyd's got an even worse job than Boney in Mother 3, who at least has extreme speed for item handling. I think Salsa is the only party member in the entire series who throws less weight around.
>took out the two best songs the guy made for it
Swap the quotes around. Daisyanon got it right.
1. He killed the tougher enemies in a flash with rockets and bombs, he was fantastic.
2. Even if you don't like him as a party member for whatever reasons, he's a better character than jeff.
So long as they keep their release date, yeah.
Monkey Mimic definitely had it's awesome moments. I suppose I'd even say that Salsa could find good mimic moments than Lloyd can with the items that you have to get a hold of. It's hard to say though, Salsa's not around for too long in Mother 3.
Not really. After Mother and Earthbound, the series loses it's charm for me. I just cannot get into Mother 3 and I've tried so many times, so I figure Mother 4 won't be any different. It certainly doesn't help that it's a fan game either.
Really? I felt like Mother 2 was too wacky and "look how weird everything is!" for me, and that Mother 3 was much more like Mother. Earthbound will always be the odd man out for me, and I hope 4 is more based on 3 and 1.
I guess it's different here since Mother 4 is a fan-game, so whatever.
You kidding? The friggin' seafloor wiped me out constantly. Though it didn't help that I thought you could lose to Master Eddy and be fine, since it's a you-lose-even-if-you-win case.
I'm the Anon you replied to. Hoh man yes it did. I cried a little when I got to Magicant. Also I love that picture you posted. I think the choice to use a red-pink for the background of the image was an amazing one, because it reminds me of Magicant and also really has that mystical sorta magical feel to it. Mother 1 was a whole lot more "normal" feeling than Earthbound, but it had lots of surreal things in it and had a little bit of it's own sort of quirkiness. I still feel like the main part of the atmosphere was it's sorta "mystical" feeling, as I said before.
If they ever were to do a 3D remake, or make a 3D sequel, something bordering Wind Waker style would be the way to go.
Man, I remember when I firist got into the Mother series when I was 15 or 16 (back in '06 or '07) and I autistically collected every single Mother official and fan soundtrack and spammed links to downloads in threads here. Music from these games was almost all I listened to for a good two years.
It's odd, I never really hear anyone I've talked to about Mother talk too much in depth about the first game, particularly how it made them feel, so it's good to hear from someone who gets it. I'd say next to Magicant and maybe Mt. Itoi, Moonside and Summers are next on my list of favorite areas in the series. Something about those areas gave me vibes of Mother 1 while remaining distinct.
Haven't there been like 6 or 7 people in this thread discussing how much they love the first game?
Some are probably the same guy, but still.
Sorry for not being specific, I meant more so outside of /v/. Anytime I mention liking the series to anyone I meet that plays vidya, they only know about Earthbound and Mother 3. And while this thread does have a lot of Mother 1 love going on, I feel like most of the threads tend to lean towards discussion on Mother 3. I could be wrong though, but I've always gotten the impression that Mother 3 overshadows Mother 1 here.
>tfw you've never met anyone who even knows the Mother franchise except from Smash Bros.
>try to convince them to play at least Mother 3
>they never do
>The Negative Man muttered, "I'm nothing but a worthless protoplasm."
Yeah, though you may get into some hijinks for it in Mother 1.
>get to Mt. Itoi
>have every melody except 1
>figure it's normal and that it's probably just up ahead
>keep going, still nothing to report
>uhhhh, feeling like I missed something here
>GET A BRUTAL ANAL GENOCIDE RELEASED ON MY BEING
>find out the one I was missing was in the desert
>tried to get friend into Mother series
>He plays EarthBound for literally 5 minutes
>quits and hasn't played since
It is, but you'll most likely miss a lot of easter eggs if you don't explore or experiment. You're also likely to miss out on the 3% Ultimate Weapon drops. Aside from that, playing through the games blind is perfectly manageable.
Pokey tells you to just try calling for help. The line would have worked better if he said "Nyuk nyuk, might as well say your prayers for all the good it'll do you!" or something, I admit.
Yeah, there was no way for you to know as a kid that you had to pray to kill Giygas. Not to mention using Paula's prayer can actually end up killing you. I died to Ghost of Starman and Final Starman because Pray made everyone feel weird and the Star men just unloaded PK Starstorms.
I'd probably use it when playing blind anyway. I just love using attacks that have multiple effects, whether good or bad. Plus I would probably have to fall back on it after Paula ran out of PP because it costs nothing and could maybe possibly do more damage than Paula's normal attack.
You know what excites me most about Mother 4? I played both Earthbound, Mother 3, and Earthbound Zero after reading the guides all the way through.
I was one of those kids who read strategy guides instead of books.
So I literally don't know what to expect.
>those kids who brought their guides the day Brawl came out
Ok guys I've played all the mother games but there is still some things I don't understand,
>you defeat giegue at the end of mother, he retreats, then what happens? In Earthbound they explain that he gave up his counsciosness for great power but you fight against him in the past, why in the past? And when you beat him, doesn't that make the first game nonexistent?
Also posting favorite track
Honestly one of the first signs I needed to jump ship.
Though Snake and Wolf were far larger reasons.
he went back in time. you don't fight him before he existed, it's like... say you go back to the dawn of time and build a base. you will still get born billions of years in the future, but you, from the future, still exist in the past in your cyber fortress.
that's what giygas did.
Same here except I played them after watching
Chugga's Let's Play'swhich basically are strategy guides put to video. Strangely, I never played along to them even though at that time I would try to match strategy guides step by step.
Ok so he goes to the past, gives up his counsciousness, becomes a not fully developed egg but certainly more powerful than his first form, Ness and co. go to the past, beat him and saved the world right?
If Mother 1 happens in 198X and mother 2 in 199X what happen to Ninten and co.? Are them in two different dimensions but with a same bad guy?
okay let's go
>Ninten scares him off through the power of song.
>Giygas gives up his consciousness for ULTIMATE POWER
>Eventually he and Porky fuck off to the start of existence to just fuck up everything right before Ness gets to them in the present
>Ness goes there too to kick his ass, saves the day
>everything progresses as it did before
There's no alternate timeline bullshit forced in like Zelda and Pokemon
Time is not a straight line. Again, Giygas as he was AFTER Mother 1 went back to the past after his defeat. He never became an egg, his psychic power just destroyed his body. The invasion of Giygas might still happen in that timeline he escaped to, since the Giygas(2) of the time Giygas(1) went back to wasn't born yet - neither was Ninten, Ness, Paula, Pokey, or anybody. If he was there for enough trillions of years, he could have joined forces or subjugated the Giygas(2) of that time. The invasion Ninten and Ness deal with was all done by the same Giygas(1) who went back in time. When Ness and co. leave the timeline Giygas(1) escaped to, they return to the timeline where Giygas(1) had already invaded twice. Those events don't un-happen, it's just as if Giygas went into another room for a while and then died.
It's an important part in many an EarthBound fan's history introducing us to the series, but with the internet hopefully we can move on from that
Personally I prefer EarthBound the most because it feels like the perfect balance of what Mother 1 was missing and its own feeling. Hated Mother 3, and I haven't got back to playing Mother 1 when my save file corrupted right as I was entering Mt. Itoi
Is it strange that I think I like Mother 1 the most out of the series?
I guess the other 2 are objectively better but Mother 1 has this NES charm that can't really be emulated. I also like the enemy designs better in that game, and even the main party members are better than both Mother 2 and 3's in my opinion.
I also think that the backstory of Giygas, Maria, and George was interesting and it's a shame they just kind of abandoned the concept in Mother 2. It'd be pretty cool if they tied it in to do something with the pyramids in Earthbound or whatever. It almost feels like Mother 1 never happened in Earthbound and M3.
Do I have autism for caring about this shit?
>Everything progresses as it did before
>Gygas is destroyed
>Porky fucks off
>Since they were fighting in the past giegue is born again.
>mother 1 happens
so that means a time loop is created?
>first giegue, mother happens.
>giegue goes to the past becomes gygas, but since he isn't born yet, when you defeat gygas giegue is born like a million years later.
>Mother 1 happens again
Or am I missing something?
I also want to note that I think that if not for the NES's limitations, the emotional scenes could have had a greater impact, and the characters could have been much more fleshed out. To be honest, the scene with Ninten and Ana dancing felt really hamfisted, but there wasn't much they could do with the NES i'd imagine.
The dilemma here is that the NES and it's limitations, at least to me, is what gives Mother 1 its charm. I wish there was some way to expand upon Mother 1's storytelling potential whilst keeping the charm of the NES.
Naw, Mother 1 was possibly the most intensive story ever released on the NES
Mother 2 was essentially a retelling that was dumbed down to a casual degree
which I personally prefer
Mother 3 was pretty melodramatic and shit
I know, I just don't want another Melee versus Smash 4 argument. Just keep talking Mother, and we're good.
Personally, I played through them all in order, and Mother is my favorite, as I detailed earlier in the thread in full spoiler.
No, a lot of us do. Mother 1 is just a cozier, more emotional game. 3 also has that going for it, but is a bit more on the fantasy/scifi side of things, 2 is great and all, but it gets a bit too wacky for my tastes sometimes. Ending is pretty grim, though.
I BELIEVE IN SONGS AND MAGIC AND THATS WHY I BELIEVE IN YOU
>liking mother over mother 3
I dont even know where to begin
>tfw your Mexican friend bought EarthBound and quit at Threed
>tfw your neet friend played Mother 3 in fucking Japanese and never played it in English (he doesn't know Japanese, he just stumbled through)
>tfw your friends' dealer struck up a conversation about EarthBound with you one time
odd relationships with the series to people in my life
I still believe in miracles,
I swear i've seen a few,
and the time will surely come
when you can see my point of view.
I wish I could still enjoy him but he's gone so downhill. Same with
Though I guess part of that is me being older and more jaded now and he's just too autistic and cringey
The only thing I don't like about the clay figures are the souless eyes. It they can somehow work it out I'll be happy.
It won't happen anyway ;_;
Has anyone tried singing any Mother songs and recorded it?
There's a version of me singing Eight Melodies floating around and someone I know did Theme of Love!
>We will never experience the full mother 64
Why hasn't somebody leaked the beta catridge?
I mean, Dinosaur Planet was leaked, Is it really that hard to get?
>tfw it's probably stored in a Nintendo storage room
>Janitor already finished it
I still watch him for the same reason I used to; being a consistently-uploading 100% guide with good quality and explaining everything about the game. It's kind of hard to find that combination for a lot of games.
I first emulated EB when I was 15, and I went into the Cave of the Past loaded with the most impressive stuff I knew of. All seven Dragon Powders, Multi-Bottle Rockets, Brain Foods, Magic Truffles... I steadfastly refused to use them on any of the enemies or even Pokey, because I knew exactly whom I meant them for.
It would have been a magnificent opening salvo to witness, as four robots burst into dragon form and lit up the darkness, then brought their greatest talents to bear.
With moans and desperate calls, the dark accepted it all, and did not waver.
Eventually, supplies ran out, strength began to flag, and dark was impassively shapeless as ever. By now, the cries were known for what they really were: not for injury, but of endless despair and misery that the heroes were beginning to share in. One robot remembered other desperate times and began to pray. Anything for the strength to last long enough for a blow that could end the nightmare.
The dark began to roil, knocked out of its mood where heroism had failed. One of her friends fell and she prayed again, that she would not drive the dark to greater violence.
Meanwhile, I began to cry like a bitch.
There are people still working on it daily, they're just taking their god damn time
According to Itoi it was nearly complete, Miyamoto said about 60% complete.
Even funnier, Iwata, one of the lead developers for EB64, estimated the game to be about 30% done. At least 5 years of development until it was cancelled and maybe a third complete. Crazy.
I've heard that there's mods to the NES rom that adjust the XP gain per fight so that one doesn't need to grind all the time to progress through the game.
Has anyone had any success with what I'm talking about, or should I just tough it out and slog my way up to reasonable levels?
>Unused party conversation
So all their memories were made up? I thought that they came on the ship, got down and just started living there but with some memories of what happened before but dissapearing with each generation. I didn't know they pulled an Attack on Titan.
Yeah, I have a patch that lowers the encounter rate and makes the enemies easier to beat (apparently equivalent to that of the easy ring).
It makes the game so pathetically easy though that I prefer the original difficulty, but I think it's fine for someone that just wants to play through the game without any hassle.
I think I only needed some help in order to enter that spooky mansion
where you gotta use telepathy with a baby
Speaking of that, I was really let down with telepathy and how useless it was.
Not really. The only thing that happens is that Giegue is destined to suffer and die no matter what, and yes, there is a loop in Earthbound (Ness and company will always need to travel to the past in order to defeat Giygas), but other than that the story proceeds normally.
Thanks. I loved playing Earthbound but I really don't like grinding.
I don't mind being too weak if there's still places for me to explore, but when I played Mother 1 I was quickly out of places to go. I went to that cloud place and was facing a wall of mobs I knew I could never beat, so I just gave up.
I sang flying man for my gf once. She's the ex now, tho, video has been deleted.
Nope, I manned up and I stumbled everywhere until I somehow figured out what to do.
That was like 4 years ago though, I'm planning to replay Mother
with the 25th anniversary ROM hack. So I'll see how I fare now.
You are a madman anon, a mad man.
Just like me. I love it.
That second Franklin Badge is so worth it though.
Has someone played this game?
If so what are your thoughts on it?
It's bad. I played for about an hour and then couldn't progress because the game was either bugged or I just didn't get enough information on where I was supposed to go next. The overworld is confusing and the battle system they tried to implement makes no sense at all and isn't explained anywhere in the game. And don't get me started on the horrible fanfic writing.
>enter the thread
>suddenly everyone hates Jeff
What happened? Jeff is probably one of the most useful party members in the entire franchise.
>he builds his own weapons
>can use the most broken items from the game
>decent stats overall
Also his introduction into the party was GOAT. Exploring Winters with the Bubblegum monkey was amazing, and let's not talk about the music.
When Porky said "I know you have telepathy" or something like that, I remembered that the only person who actually used telepathy was Paula, so I figured I would have to use her special skill. Plus I actually used prayer throughout the game, just because its funny as fuck.
What's your favorite item in the series, anons?
mine's pic related
Fuck you anon, now I want to eat a burguer with some fries and soda.
It's also a shame that Kumatora never got many good fanart, but I guess you can't help it when her game is only available through a ROM that needs a fan translation in top of that.
Let's say he was 9 in 2006.
10 in 2007
11 in 2008
12 in 2009
13 in 2010
14 in 2011
15 in 2012
16 in 2013
17 in 2014
18 in 2015
And hell, that's just 9. He could've been older and still fit as "a child".
>It's also a shame that Kumatora never got many good fanart
True that. We'll have to make our own.
Probably the Onyx Hook/Agate Fish Hook
It's one of the most useful items there is, and has such a strong connection with Mother's story.
I think that the whole insta-ban rumor regarding that item was debunked in some other thread.
My favorite item must be the Franklin Badge.
I love it when I forget that I have it on, and right before I am about to get zapped I reflect the enemy's attack, it's sound effect is also fucking great.
Saddly I can't into the arts, but if you drew that you deserve a beer and a handshake.
Whoever drew it does deserve that.
My art is subpar, so no posting anything from me atm.
Or in 5 years.
>you'll never be this cute and kiss your own clone
It hurts to exist.
I don't know... Lloyd's introduction really stuck with me. The rooftop of Twinkle Elementary is one of the most memorable locations in Mother.
Don't mind me, I just came here to post the best song from the best band in the series.
Well it really is a hard choice. I played Earthbound first and I liked Winters' athmosphere, the music, the colors, Tessie, etc. Lloyd's was great too but I think something like a build-up was missing. In Earthbound saving Ness and Paula felt better than going to the factory to blow up some rocks. But I see your point, they're both good in their own way. What game did you play first? maybe that is also another reason of different opinions
Porky's Tower was such a damn good location.
It's also good that it has an entire section dedicated to my favorite Mother enemy and a super comfy song to go with it.
Thanks for the dump, you really helped me to expand my Mother folder with best girl.
>HOW ABOUT AN ASTHMA ATTACK
I technically played EarthBound first, but I put off completing it until after I finished Mother.
I think they really are completely different moments though, in Mother it's more about Ninten seeking out Lloyd's friendship and earning his trust and becoming friends, like you would when you were a kid. And when Bein' Friends starts playing when he joins your party that just accentuates that feeling.
In EarthBound Jeff sort of gets a calling in his heart telling him that he needs to set off on an adventure, that somebody needs him and Jeff does what any good friend would do for people he doesn't even know are his friends yet.
I think both are really great moments.