How do you guys feel about this? This is the kind of stuff that used to just be in the game already. Are you guys going to buy this? Do you think this is cut content to earn a quick buck? Or is it that Disgaea 5 on it's own already has enough content that they felt this stuff could all be DLC?
It could actually be good for the Disgaea series, considering that since Disgaea 3 they have been shitting DLC left and right.
Well, it would be good IF they make all DLC be available for those that bought the season pass.
Yeah I suppose it really depends on how lengthy these episodes are. If they're actually enjoyable, I could see this being better than just buying characters. More Valvatorez is a good thing.
As a long time Disgaea fan, I am not really interested in 5. DD2 had a lot of slice of life improvements, but it also had an unprecedented level of bugs and performance issues. If anything, I will wait until the vita version is on sale
Somewhere between D3 and D4 NIS realized that they can make a good deal of money on DLC if they shorten the amount of postgame content and just turn it into DLC. Laharl and co. used to be in every game but now they are just DLC.
Although on the plus side it gives them an excuse to put in Marona and Ash as hilariously overpowered characters in every game since then.
I don't think Disgaea 5 can get a Vita port. They said that the game was planned for PS3 and PS4 but PS3 was holding it back so they wanted to go all out with a PS4 game. Of course this could just be bullshit.
This thread has reminded me I'm not done with D4 yet.... I really can't be fucked booting up my ps3 and waiting several hours for all the fucking updates to go through just to play it though. Haven't been on the console since GTA5 came out.
If Valkyria Chronicles and Agarest can come out on steam I really hope they start putting the Disgaea games on there
NIS stated at least twice already that Disgaea 5 won't get a Vita port, Vita wouldn't be able to handle it.
And they swtiched to PS4 only so that they could help the console succeed, by making people have more reasons for buying a PS4
Was it? What did it do right? I only got 5 or so hours in. I wasn't a big fan of evilities and the way they changed things for 3 and it looked like more of the same. I much prefered the mentor/felony thing from 1&2.
Also I should maybe say that I like this series for the stat porn and completely ridiculous moves. I don't give a flying fuck about any of the story chars or loli pedo bullshit.
>not buying the definitive Vita version
It's like you want to get fucked by DLC.
Well, yeah, but I asked "aside from the bugs", as we all know that NISA is a bunch of incompetent monkeys when it comes to coding
Also, what did they fuck up localization wise in D2?
the 'D5 can't be done on Vita' thing is complete bullshit obviously. it took 10 years but even the japs have figured out the initial release is a beta test for the re-release a year later. NIS has to say something to move the PS4 version
I want Etna to have less clothes in the next installment
MH is probably Capcom's biggest cash cow-- it's a yearly franchise in Japan
I seriously don't get why they bother buying the base game when the "G" version almost always comes out the next year and completely makes the base game obsolete.
They are probably thinking that "Maybe this time, no G", dunno. I can understand it with other series that do this, but do it far later than a year, but with MonHun, I have no idea.
Everyone should just stop making series yearly, like they used to, but fuck that, more money.
Is not a bad cast of DLC but could be better
Also D5 really don't have a post-game?
The DLC is usually just characters from past games, so I won't be getting a season pass.
Mao is the only DLC character I buy, for each Disgaea game after 3. Since he is my favorite Disgaea character. He's as strong as the protagonists as well.
I don't really think that's possible
Nippon Ichi is going maximum overjew with this one because the company is in a really bad shape and they're banking the company on this games success.
They even said that if D5 doesn't sell like 500k they will probably have to shut down
Trophies list don't have a single trophy about the post game
At least the game have 15 chapters
Pleinair is the one thing I can never fucking accept as DLC. Why must you Jew me like this NIS? I've got the JP limited edition of D5 shipped and on its way to me. Is that not enough for you, NIS?
Can't say i'm surprised as NIS has been pumping up DLC like madmans since D3 (from what i've read they go through pretty harsh financial situations and Disgaea seems to be their money maker) and cashing in from it.
Personally I don't mind it as I tend to buy the DLCs I like (most of them are characters if I remember correctly) and I known the money goes towards NIS, though I dislike the overall DLC practice.
No they say 150k Worldwide
Yes is sad
And again not a single marl kingdom characters
>Persona 5 is PS3 like 90% of the PS4's library
>Disgaea 5 is PS4 exclusive
Why is this allowed?
If they are not releasing a ps3 version (wich would boost the sales they most likely need and want) I don't known how likely the vita version is to happen, but I have no clue about the vita hardware possibilities so who knowns. I'd prefer if it was released on vita too as it would help with sales and NIS health.
They should've just gone full boosto and made P5 a PS4 exclusive, too, I say. We are never going to get true "good next-gen" games if devs are going to hinder them by also making them for the previous gen...
>This is the kind of stuff that used to just be in the game already.
Maybe you should check out the mountain of dlc for disgaea 3 and 4. If you're the kind of idiot who buys all of that, then the season pass would at least save you some cash.
A fighting game
Did any other Disgaea game come close to having as good a soundtrack as 1's?
If Dragon Quest Heroes is anything to go by. It sold 100k more on PS3, then PS4. I think it'd be too risky to go full PS4 exclusive in Japan yet. Until the PS4 is more popular there.
Which speaking of DQ Heroes. It looked way better on PS4, then on PS3. So Persona 5 may be the same way.
>everyone that made the previous games good has left NIS
They made DD2 and now are making that compile heart which don't look good
Hells Whisper and Sorrowful Angel are god-tier. Well, the whole soundtrack is amazing but those two are really nostalgic. Best Disgaea soundtrack in my opinion. Recently I think Tenpei Sato's best work might be Majo to Hyakkihei's soundtrack. He did a good fucking job on that one.
I wish they'd bring back some more characters. Like >>288358941
I really hope the DLC characters aren't overleveled postgame only stuff. The main story usually at least has some structure before it goes completely off the rails into a number increasing simulator.
Best Generic comin through. I hope her voice options aren't shit like in 4.
I think most disgaeas have at least a couple good tracks, most important thing for me was having a good tune for the item world.
was great for me when I got D1 on the psp, grinding item world so good with that.
Wait, fuck, I didn't care since they always do this and the episodes might be better than the literally nothing they usually have, but fuck, I just realized that Laharl and co are DLC. This is not good, not good at all. NIS is going downhill and fast
Time for changing, people say "I don't bite"
In the corner, of my heart is only guy in da car
Day after day I roll, searching for my I have a cotton
But my journey is taking me far so far from you
I'm moving on, moving so far away
There's a udder deep down inside me
I'm moving on, I am saying goodbye
Skies are grey, I am a bun now
I must run my whole life missing you
So im playing D4 on the Vita
How do I efficiently reincarnate a character to make them godlike?
Pretty much this. Sony has no problem extending the lifespan of previous consoles, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
I'm kinda glad that they're at least making P5 on PS4 though. It kinda sucked that P4 was only on PS2 and had nothing to work with for a next gen sequel, hence Catherine. Plus, it'll be great for the PS4 exclusives like Persona
5: Golden, Arena, and Dancing
>Masahiro Yamamoto was previously a long time Nippon Ichi developer who worked as the main programmer and a game designer on many lead titles starting from Disgaea 2, before leading the design and direction of recent Nippon Ichi titles such as Zettai Hero Project, Disgaea 4, and The Guided Fate Paradox.
>From 2ch boards: Mr.Y (Masahiro Yamamoto) who was in charge of D (Disgaea) and KP (KamiPara), along with almost all the development staff including the main programmer have resigned. The Executive Mr.K and the North American Corporate Head Mr.A, along with their subordinates have also left the company. The above mentioned are making something similar for Company I (Idea Factory).
I don't see a reason to buy Disgaea 5 on Day 1
How do you even grind that high?
Best Ive hit is only 1000
Final level of the Cave of Ordeals, have your people get the Big Bang skill and fuse a giant fist monster to them. You'll want to get a shitton of Statistitions to help speed up the process.
Persona 5 is a PS3 game that has been in the works for years, if anything the fans deserve to play it in the console that was promised too. And the game was expected since fucking Persona 4. The PS4 version is just a port with more resolution.
>Daily reminder that Persona 5 would be out by now if not for the PS4 port
Usually with the final level of the Cave of Ordeals, it's pretty much the ultimate grinding-spot.
And if you set up the right innocents and placements you can easily reach 9999 in less than 5 turns.
I'm also going to fap to the picture you just posted.
i agree. lets get her a one piece swimsuit, and a bunny girl outfit, lingerie, maybe a black latex catsuit...
what are the chances we can get capcom to agree to give her a morrigan or a lillith costume?
Cave of Ordeals or Mt Ordeal?
Do I have to beat Mt first? Cos this gives like no EXP
I found Mao himself to be pretty fun. People usually tend to take there hatred of the story in D3, out on Mao. The overall story of Disgaea 3, even I didn't like. Yet I liked the characters.
I found every other Disgaea protagonist to be boring, but Mao's mad scientist shtick was pretty nice.
I'm just going for round 2 and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.
I like how Mao stayed an otaku pervert, not became a little bitch like Laharl.
I also love mao
too bad d3 story made he a shit character
>Easy! Her pants could just be the belt and nothing else.
Yeah, she'd have to be wearing single-string bikinis to be even more naked.
I have no doubt in my mind that she will end up dressed as such if they ever make one more game where she is a main character (Disgaea D3 or something).
I'll be honest, non of the MCs really annoyed me and at the very least had one good point about them.
It's mostly the side-characters which were the bane of my existence.
Pic related, love her design, but everything else made me lose some brain cells out of anger.
Despite the whole dream thing I actually quite liked Fuka, cute design, cute voice and except for that one specific line I enjoyed her personality, it was overall enough for me to just deal with her one liner.
What they need to do though is either stop forgetting people exist in a story or trim the fat on the main cast. Dudes like Big Star and Emizel could be quietly removed and you would not notice. I really hope that doesn't happen again with 5.
D3 had too many characters
My problem with D3 is that "demons are almost entirely backwards, isn't it funny?" and "school setting" don't feel like they jive together, at least when they take it to the point when teachers are literally begging Mao and co. to not attend school.
It's even more fucked when you try to think around that system.
If doing good deeds is seen as delinquency, and being bad is seen as the norm, wouldn't you do good deeds to be considered bad, which would then make you considered good given the inverse?
Almaz should've been the protag.
Scenario: Disgaea D2‘s Laharl, Etna, Flonne, and Sicily (500 yen) – The characters of Disgaea D2 enter the world of Disgaea 5. When Laharl and Kilia meet in the remote regions of hell, the curtain rises on a new story. After clearing the scenario, the four characters will be available in the main game, complete with their own dedicated skills. Additionally, they’ll be able to use some of Disgaea 5‘s new systems, like Maougi and Union techniques.
Character: Laharl-chan (300 yen) – The female version of Laharl joins the battle.
Character: Angel Soldier (Woman) (free for PlayStation Plus subscribers between April 1 and May 5) – The generic Angel Soldier (woman) joins the battle.
Discussion: Borrow the Power of Toro and Kuro (free) – In collaboration with Sony Computer Entertainment, this add-on brings the power of the Doko Demo Issyo cats into the game.
Set 1: March 26
>Scenario: Disgaea D2‘s Laharl, Etna, Flonne, and Sicily (500 yen)
>Character: Laharl-chan (300 yen)
Set 2: April 30
>Scenario: Disgaea 4‘s Valvatorez, Fenrich, and Vulcanus (500 yen)
>Scenario: Disgaea 4‘s Fuka, Desco, and Emizel (500 yen)
>Character: Nisa (300 yen)
Set 3: May 28
>Scenario: Disgaea 3‘s Mao, Raspberyl, and Salvatore (500 yen)
>Scenario: Disgaea 3‘s Almaz and Sapphire (500 yen)
>Character: Metallia (300 yen)
Set 4: June 25
>Scenario: Disgaea 2‘s Adell, Rozalin, and Axel (500 yen)
Set 5: July 30
>Scenario: Makai Kingdom‘s Lord Zetta, Pram, and Petta (500 yen)
>Scenario: La Pucelle: Tactics‘ Priere (500 yen)
Season Pass Bonus
>Character: Pleinair (if you purchase all the downloadable content without buying the Season Pass, you’ll also get Pleinair)
So the every DLC have a Scenario this could cool
I just wish NISA stopped cutting out and/or not releasing certain content over here.
It's like they're desperate to try and get an audience they'll never get while shitting on the ones who would buy the stuff anyway because they have no other choice.
Yep, I doubt D5's story will be as good. I had this weird sense of deja vu with the themes of vengence, the trailer having Killia with a girl who we can only assume is his reason for vengence, along with this pink haired NotArtina demon thirsting for his D.
Also known as $5 according to nisa.
I'm so glad they changed her proportions a bit.
The official Disgaea D2 art had her with toothpick arms. like she was anorexic or something.
>All the characters from old Disgaea games confirmed as DLC.
Then what the fucks are we gonna get for Post-Game. This is bullshit.
He's at least good for getting you through the main game since he can steamroll everything between when you get him and the end boss. Too bad his usefulness drops off in the endgame.
While I understand frustration with seasons passes. I think disgaea 5 is one of the few games that it would make sense for. The amount of content for disgaea 3 and 4 after release was huge. Ranging from "reskins", new characters, new classes, itemworld levels, and new content.
Disgaea 5 won't be short on content when its released so I dont view this as a horrible thing
That has never been an issue in the past. I can't see why they would suddenly remove the essence of disgaea. I mean they even added multiplayer pirate invasions to add more fun to the end game in disgaea 4. Story was a little weak and I think I eventually beat the final boss but the characters were pretty uninteresting. Especially d3
>5 will probably be shit because n1 left
I don't necessarily want her fuller or plumper, but Disgaea 1-2 had it right, I don't want to see her skinnier.
They completely ruined her outfit in dd2, yes.
Fucking sucks, man. There's been nothing on that Asagi figurine that got promised either.
happened like 2 years ago. NIS remerged N1 and tried to use it as an excuse not to pay them since they were technically being rehired.
N1 then just mass left and went to fucking Idea Factory of all places. Only Sato is left and he's leaving after 5, Harada was already a free agent.
>tfw he might never do official game art again
Well anon he making a new game with Compile Heart
This is the best news I've heard in a long time.
I can't wait.
>3 had a lot of dlc too.
yeah but at least you could pick the 3 characters you wanted for a reasonable budget. applying a season pass to the average Disgaea DLC list means paying the game a second time, if not more.
I mean, look at her in D5, she's already more of a slut piece of meat that he hot headed demon she was in D1. Even DD2 wasn't so shameless.
Your not a bad person but you missing 60% of the game
>this hashtag traction
so this is the power of online activism
Don't forget that built in 3x3 attack she is able to move around.
More like what isn't wrong.
Music is awful, there's very little tracks and some of it is reused from Guided Fate Paradox.
Crappy 3d graphics that I struggle to even call chibi really, they're just bad.
Most simplistic roguelike gameplay ever. You just walk, use one form against one type of enemies and vice versa. Compared to ZHP or Guided Fate it's pathetic. All the levels are the same.
No more cutscenes between floors but the actual cutscenes are 15 to 20 minutes long. It's a VN in all but name really. And not a great one.
"Moral" choices that don't actually do anything except 1 that triggers the bad ending and another that gets you the good/true endings.
Really bad mic quality when the main character gets pissed that makes it sound like someone is just holding it too close to themselves.
Yes, her evilities can make her teleport-block for other units and reduce all damage she takes from it.
It definitely works into mid thousands at least though i didn't try at max levels
But the Vita can't load 100 enemies.
That's bullshit, believe it.
MH team fought with Sony and they haven't looked each other in the eye since, only getting the most offensive scraps: Frontier.
>Just buy Monster Hunter from Capcom
They would have done that years ago if they could, MH is one of Japan's biggest cash cows.
People don't want to wait a year just for a version that has a few new monsters + 50 old ones.
But Flonne and Etna are supposed to be friends. Are friends supposed to pin each other down and force the other to do something she doesn't want to? Should Etna be subjected to rape, even if it's to teach something good in the end? Immanuel Kant would disagree; the categorical imperative is to not use others in such a way to satisfy an end. Flonne shouldn't tie Etna spread eagle, tear her rather small outfit off and take advantage of her like that.
Eh. It's more "it's okay when smaller companies do it" I think. There's been a huge backlash against Capcom and Arc System Jews for their shenanigans. But the FGC ponies up anyway.
At the end of the day, the consumer has a responsibility to voice their opposition with their wallet. Unfortunately, people still keep throwing money at them.
So, you subscribe to consequentialism instead, but I cannot be with you there. Kant's rationale is for the ultimate goodness of people and to make a few sacrifices such as allowing Etna to be emotionally scarred is wrong in my view.
It's not, if you understand how the game is programmed. composite sprites + random = lots of memory, really fast. It's not that the console wouldn't handle 100 prinnies, it's about handling 100 different units holding a different weapon each+ the whole player team+ all their spells and skills animation (since they never load during battle).
She'll be reborn as a servant of love.
You can once you die and become a prinny.
We'll make it bros. Someday we'll from the /v/ prinny squad.
>no girl has yet to top Rozalin
Will Seraphine be the first?
>Laharl and co are fucking DLC now
I quit the Disgaea series/Nis in general after how shitty Guided Fate Paradox and Disgaea D2 were, but holy shit this a new low.
Is every bonus character going to be DLC now?
>Is every bonus character going to be DLC now?
Judging by that list, yes.
There doesn't seem to have a real "post game". Hopefully this means the real story mode ends at level 1000 instead of 100
>Judging by that list, yes.
There doesn't seem to have a real "post game". Hopefully this means the real story mode ends at level 1000 instead of 100
Why does everything have to go to shit? I liked Disgaea. I really did.
I mean, come on, level curve is always shit in disgaea, you spend the 6 first chapter struggling from level 1 to 40 then push you to 100 in like 5 maps.It doesn't help that 75% of the geat tiers are consentrated at those low level, then after 100 you only have 5 weapons and armors to discover.
well I came into this thread for faps, and as usual anon delivers
The main glitch is patched. Some freeze occured but overal the game is playable. It's easy and fast paced for a disgaea, so it's worth a run for the story (just don't team kill or chapter 8 will give you the finger like never before)
I'll do what I can.
>8 games including spin offs
>thinking one more will be the big push
Nigger Vampire had 3 games and that's all it needed for the porn and doujins to come out. Etna isn't that liked.
>>thinking one more will be the big push
The memetic power of the PS4 will do wonder. They are literally starved for game.
Get ready for ridiculous "never ever" and shitflinging all over the place when it's announced there and gets a 90%
It was on the PS2, PS3, PSP, AND PSVita.
Nigger, wake up, it could be sold on every fucking platform ( and they tried, oh how did they try with the DS version ), and it still wouldn't spur people into making such.
I wish he drew more Etna in general.
do you really think they actually NEED 8gigs of ram and over 100 GFLOPs to run a hand full of 2D sprites that have a resolution ranging from 60x60 to 160x160 over a low poly isometric 3D map with simple textures?
Oh yeah, NIS sucks at coding, they also NEEDED the PS3's extra ram to make D3 work, since their code was so bloated that the PS2 couldn't handle D3
Also, lets not forget their games shit the bed when NISA does a simple text injection and replacement for the UI
so yeah, they might NEED all that for D5, but any competent dev would be able to make it run on the 3DS
why haven't you given her the D /v/?
Well shit, I didn't exactly expect you to respond. Well, life and work comes first, of course, but I'll keep an eye out for it.
I wouldn't exactly mind either, actually. As long as it's Etna.
Laharl is fucking trash. I don't see how this is a 'low'. People have way too hard of a boner for the original three. The first game's story wasn't even that great, just compared to the others it was.
Depends of the cast really
4's Dub was meh, while the original Japanese VA cast were all great VAs
Wasn't him voicing midboss before?, his performance in Prinny 2 along with Etna's VA's performance made me drop the game in hopes some one would do a undub of it
Every line was delivered horribly, only Sandy Fox as Flone was doing a good job in that game
NIS is very weird when it comes to shit like this. They literally punish people who buy their shit with the games and then a shitload of DLC. And then reward those who didn't buy it later for re-releasing ports with all initial DLC added.
As of right now, I'm not buying Disgaea 5 because I don't have a fucking PS4, and because NISA is comprised of cunts who locked out europeans from their online store, and made a european branch where 1 dollars apparently is the same thing as 1 brittish pound.
Finally a somewhat-decent reason to post this.
>went to chek on the NISA forums
>expect to see people complaining about the scam
>"gee, my favourite character and class isn't on the list! Do you think they might release it in the future?"
And that's why they can do this shit.
NIS has been dead to me since they allowed the American branch to ruin Rhapsody. It was already bad enough their localization staff is retarded but the fact the parent company doesn't even care shows they should not be given money.
All the people that might have complained were banned during the mugen souls incident.
>there will never be a Disgaea game with likeable characters or non-cringeworthy writing
A shame, since the grinding is kind of interesting.
Well Houk is retired now.
Then again.. the new mods apparently permaban people now over stupid shit. Like this one guy had giveaway contests, giving away copies of LE games and shit, and was going to give away 3 PS4's, but some little faggot kept coming in the thread whining about why he wasn't allowed to enter ( he was underage, and apparently the guy just didn't like him ). So he and his friends raised a big enough fuss about it that the guy just ended up getting permabanned for passive aggressive trolling and making the forum toxic.
...so.. Yeah, it didn't get much better with Houk leaving.
not that anon but I can take a shot at it
NISA censors mugen souls
this censoring removes part of the game
people get angry
nisa dont give a fuck
it doesn't sell well
they announce they will be translating mugen souls z
...and it will be censored
He tried so hard to push Mugen Souls, it was really kinda sad.
This actually isn't really NISA's fault, they don't do any coding in-house, that's all on CH. however it IS NISA's fault for not catching the bugs during testing and QA.
Personally I disagree.
NISA has a pretty poor track record for the last few years when it comes to releasing games with game/console crashing bugs even when they don't censor content.
For example disgaea 4 on the vita has (had?) a bug that would crash the game if a certain monster type with a certain personality spoke one of its english lines. If you want to protect yourself from the chance of crashing the game from a randomly generated monster you have to play with the japanese voices.
inb4 >playing with the dub
also valvatorez have 2 voice actors on the vita was really annoying.
>shitty Guided Fate Paradox
GFP is a great game
But chapter 4 is bullshit
The worst recent one was Disgaea D2, for a lot of people the game would be literally unplayable as the game crashed whenever someone a fire spell. It took them MONTHS to fix. I'd be extremely pissed off to have paid 60+ bucks for a game I can't play.
Thankfully mine worked fine.
I liked that game, but the post-game is utter bullshit. I just can't get good at it.
She is fucking gamebreaker i beat D4 only using her
Her Evility is fucking good
>increases her stats by 25% for every adjacent unit while simultaneously decreasing the stats of the adjacent unit by 25%.
As much as I'd like to, there aren't any good tickling pictures left. Here's a sample of what else there is.
Which sucks, because I like tickling and I like Etna, and not having both in one picture hurts my feelings.
Vita version only
you need D3 save