Which character had the worst levels and why was it beard?
Maybe for the level design but beard's gameplay was the worst
>can't pick up weapons
>only limited to what you choose at the start
It basically neutered the core gameplay mechanics
In the spirit of HM2 doing everything the opposite way of what I wanted out of it, I liked Beard's.
Son's were the worst imo. I really didn't give a shit about him or really about continuing the game.
But Beard's level design still allowed you to have fun with that selected limitation.
>Shoot whatever weapon you have
>Switch to Knife
>Kill every motherfucker that approaches you
I finished all Beard levels with nearly melee only aside from like one section, all in full combos.
Pardo's levels, on the other hand, are all terribly designed and don't allow for that kind of melee gameplay, even though they allow you to switch weapons.
Definitely the fans. They just run around pretending to be interesting for the media and don't really get anything done. I don't know why people focus on them so much when they really aren't that important anyway. There are way better aspects than the fans and honestly they're just a bunch of lowlifes looking for their 15 minutes which is ridiculous.
>there are people who didn't like playing as pixellated Max Payne
I thought I knew this board.
Nigger they were fucking great, intense, and short.
Felt like I was playing HM1 again for a few levels.
>implying I haven't arleady cleared Dead Ahead on hard
It's the hardest part of Hard Mode by far, but it felt fucking amazing finally clearing it.
I'll give you credit though the cocaine room is complete bullshit
>That second stage where you immediately get fired upon by two guys behind glass, better bring a firearm and enter the lower part or you're fucked.
>That second to last room where you have to bait a pair of guys behind a glass window who, due to the weird AI, half the time won't notice you and the other half will 360 noscope you before you have a chance to move back. Not to mention the random dog and the four giga niggas patrolling.
>Actually feeling bad for that bunch of psychopaths.
Lol what a gay.
Richter calmly accepting death while Richard tells him that death isn't as terrifying as it sounds, though, that hit me right in the feels.
>Implying I'm Manny Pardo
Yeah, I wish.
Reminder that Tony died like a faggot to the most intelligent detective on the force, Manny Pardo, who was born with hard skin. These vigilantes who want their 15 minutes of fame are nothing compared to the terror of Florida, the Miami Mutilator, the most devious and gruesome killer ever to grace the streets of Miami. Sounds scary? Yeah. But Manny Pardo is on the case, though this may be too big of a job, even for him.
I really liked Richter's levels. Everything before it seemed like "Lolgimmick time" but Richter's levels felt really like Hotline Miami.
>can combo your way through the level
>no lolwindows everywhere
As for worst? Maybe Beards. They're alright though.
I've been listening to Around for half an hour straight, please send help.
I listened to Abyss the entire day while following that Tails Gets Trolled thread, as a result, I cannot listen to it without thinking of Amy Rose being violently raped.
It's a very strange experience.
Because it's so trippy and amazing?
>tfw doing some of my normal fag duties so I can go home and sperg out
>taking imouto around the mall
>iPod is on shuffle
>Dubmood - Richard
>begin to imagine if I had to fight my way out of the mall a la Hotline Miami
later that night I had a dream that I killed a bunch of people in a big house while wearing a sheep mask. Then I hid in some tall grass and listened to the police whizz by wondering how easy it would be to ID me. How easy would it be exactly?
>Simple pure hotline gameplay
>God-tier feels inducing story
At least his mother never had to see her bright young man die
Hotline miami's story is kinda interesting because you feel sorry for all these characters despite all of them other than Evan and maybe beard and richter being pretty much as insane and morally deprived as the next.
Other than 2 or 3, they are ALL mass murderers.
>no lolwindows everywhere
Le Perv is imo the best track in the game, but all 3 of the others are mediocre compared to the rest.
That's not to say that Richter isn't good.
Thank god beautiful, thick-skinned detective Manny Pardo did not fall for his ruse.
>feeling bad for any of the playable characters
Lets be honest here, they all deserve to die.
They are not saints.
But yeah The Fans died too soon.
Manny Pardo facing off with one of his most daring adversaries yet
Why is everyone sucking this track's dick so much? Is this some sort of dank meme?
This and also Roller Mobster.
They're fucking shit compared to say "The way home" or "Divide"
>mfw first time The Way Home started
Evan was he didn't kill anyone if you didn't force him to and all he wanted to do was find out the truth and spread that truth to as many people as possible. You can even make him turn it down so he can spend his last moments with his family,
Richter didn't deserve anything that happened to him.
I agree Le Perv is like Minnie tier shit.
But nothing got me more pumped than the Fans level with Roller mobster, fuck you.
Way home and Divide are gud though
Yeah, they're not saints, but I still feel like the Fans got what they deserved and were the worst of the bunch. They go on massive killing sprees because they're fucking bored. Everyone else pretty much has a less-bad reason to do what they do (except the fat guy, he sucks too).
And how can you not feel bad for Henchman or Richter? Henchman is tried of violence, wants to settle down, only to get his bitch wife to steal his money and then some edgy kids kill him for no reason.
And Richter gets forced into doing shit he doesn't want to do because his sick mother is getting threatened.
I really don't see why people like the fans so much.
They're just degenerates looking for their 15 minutes of fame, and detective Manny Pardo and his thick skin will get rid of them for sure, while at the same time tackling the craftiest criminal of the all the Miami Mutilator.
>level is hard as fuck
>not even mad because the music is so fucking excellent
This is why I can't hate on Beard levels.
Holy shit that pic is actually accurate to the story
I like that theory that Henchman killed some of the people that Alex knew (you know, at the garage he was at)
So The Fans went and enacted a twisted sort of revenge.
Everything ties in somehow in this game, you just have to look into it.
I like how in Evan's debut level, the people you don't kill will wait outside of the sauna while you're interviewing the boss.
>I like that theory that Henchman killed some of the people that Alex knew (you know, at the garage he was at)
Also the Fans knew who Henchman was since he let that one last dude at the garage live. Who then probably told Alex.
That would explain why they put extra effort in finishing off Henchman.
I didn't kill anyone in Evan's first level (
except the first guy which you're forced to kill, or at least make him bleed or something) and all the guys I knocked out or hit with a melee weapon just stayed wherever I downed them... can you actually just get to the guy in the sauna without having to knock everyone out or hit everyone with melee weapons?
>tfw even though she was a gold-digger he still wanted to go home to his wife
I meant knock-out instead of kill. But it's possible to get there without hurting a single guy, just really hard to do so.
You probably haven't unlocked the secret level yet.
You have to non-lethal that one as well before you get the achievement.
Finish the third floor of Jake's second level without dying, then, when the 50B guy goes to get cofffy, pick up the floppy disc on the table, then when you get the next story section with Evan, pick up the floppy on the table.
And no, as far as I know, you have to kill the first guy. I guess it's supposed to show how Evan isn't a killer like the rest (since he's horrified and tries to revive the guy)
Can you imagine how cool it would have been to have one of Richter's levels to end with him getting a phonecall with directions to Jacket's place?
Then you go in to kill Hooker and when you sit on the couch after a few seconds Jacket comes in and you pop him before he kills you.
Fans are the best gameplay-wise. Writer is close second, and Richter also makes it for the feel. I even took liking to Beard's levels playing on Hard with Flamethrower unlocked, but there is simply too many of them in the game. Pardo would be okay if we got to play as
the Miami Mutilator[/spoler] as well. Jake is cool, but only 2 levels iirc. The Pig Butcher is completely forgettable, and both the Henchman and the Mobster are shit, save for the final level.
>inb4 Fans edgelord hurrrrrr muh henchman the feels
The Son is literally the definition of edge
>looks like a Naruto character
>literally rolls behind you and unsheathes katana
>does drugs and gets lol so random
>runs around killing people because he's either high as fuck, or he needs to calm his daddy issues
BUT HE A GOOD BOY, MUH HENCHMAN, HE WAS JUST GETTIN HIS LIFE ON TRACK
>The Son probably killed more Russian goons than the Fans because he got high
>you will never unlock Genocide
I just don't have it in me to grind out scene 17 anymore.
>Got stuck because I didn't know the blue side were useful cover
Though I didn't know Beard could get more Ammo until I ran out on his last level
There are worse things you can do than murdering armed thugs that would gladly shoot you first.
the only ones who killed innocent people are padro and pig butcher.
evan and beard did nothing wrong and richter was coerced into doing it.
>implying the best detective in all of miami wouldnt know every detail of every mobster scum
He was probably going to tell him to surrender, because once he catches the fiendish Miami Mutilator, hes coming for him
>my fucking face when Writer throws his jacket off in bloodlust
Yes, you even see him draw the 50 Blessings symbol on the American flag.
>Jacket was proven crazy
What? Then why he is in jail?
And Beard became a soldier and killed people, he wasnt forced to it.
Same for Richter, he could have just fled the country with his mom.
Even Evan killed that one guy during his mission, just for the sake of his book.
>Stepping onto the basketball court
>Le Perv plays
We don't know that Beard willingly chose to join the army. Corey and Alex were there too so we could assume that a lot of people were forced into it just because America needed numbers.
Richter was poor as shit, he couldn't have left the country, especially since 50Blessings just burned his car.
Just finished Hotline miami 1 again.
Holy shit, finished it in less than an hour, all A+, 2 is truly hard as shit, 1 was so fucking easy compared to it.
Also, now that I see it overall, after the shock is over, I beleive the second one was better.
In the 80s, not all states had legislation in place for handling insanity and mental problems with those convicted. Furthermore, while Jacket is completely out of it for most of the game, he regains lucidity towards the end and butchers the remainders of the mafia unhindered.
Using the excuse that someone 'deserves to die' for willingly signing up to be a soldier is a bit extreme. Not to mention that the Hawaiin Conflict is something entirely unique to Hotline Miami's universe, and it could have been similar to Vietnam with drafting. Even if you don't want to kill, in the military you can't just choose to flee once you've lost your taste for it. The price to pay for desertion is harsh; even moreso with two megapowers like the USA and USSR in conflict, I imagine.
Richter really didn't have the option to leave. He had no money and was being hounded by 50 Blessings. If he died, that wasn't really an issue for him, but it would doom his mother. So he put his own well-being and personal feelings aside for her sake.
some fan version of a character from a video series that really should not be a video series that totally does not understand the meaning of the character it's a fan version of.
I just want to say this
The first time playing Hotline Miami 2, I had a hard time, it was fucking painful, I was so used to being "Good" at the first one, that I had to change my whole playstyle and learn to aim.
Then I remembered, I had a hard time with the first one too, until I got good.
The more I played 2, the better I became, the more fun I had.
I can finish it really quickly now, and actually feel the changes made from one were mostly for the better, so yeah, I liked 2 more because it was better done.
You might disagree with me, which is okay, to each is own, but if you feel the game is "bad" or "too hard" just keep playing it, don't surrender, you can do it.
You'll become better eventually, and had more fun.
Also, the soundtrack is perfect, all the songs are great, Except for we're sorry and java
I dislike them, but I guess someone must like them
Oh shit, that makes sense. Wait, then has anyone figured out what Beard is referencing to? Is it the whole plot arc where Beard is with Jacket and the rest of the pack?
Oh, thanks for traslating that, couldn't you have said so on the first place?
Also, why was that pic even made?
CHARACTER RANKING INBOUND
The Son, Richter, Evan/Writer
Swans, Pardo, Mark
Beard, Jake, Henchman
>MADE USELESS DUE TO THE SWANS TIER
I probably forgot someone.
He's referencing war most likely
ALWAYS PLAY FIRST IN THE SERIES
no, but seriously, if you don't want your anus expanded, play the first.
Why do people not play games in order, that pisses my autism off.
I know they're children and all, but
It confounds me how nobody ever remembers that he's bald.
Richard may just be some part of Jacket's psyche, and their "meeting before" could be a reference to some part of Jacket's personality that was dominant with the pack during the Hawaiian Conflict. I don't really like to think of Richard, Don Juan or Rasmus as individual characters. They're all just pieces of Jacket's broken-ass mind. Of course, Richard's role is really broadened in HM2, but it could just be his representing Jacket's legacy or something.
I dislike you
>Awful video series
Its fine though
Why useless? Because swans are better?
GOD OF GODS TIER
Biker and Jacket
I want to know more about Biker, he's so cool
Thanks for clearing that up for me guys.
I like you.
I do, because I'm autistic. It's kind of retarded to ignore the one actual thing we know about Ash's appearance in favor of making him a "male Alex." They're not identical twins.
The only reason to use Tony is for one-hit kills as soon as you start. You can't shoot or anything. The Swans give you a weapon just as fast as punching AND a gun. It's fun to punch people, but Tony is useless compared to them.
I don't know, I like him with hair.
Then again, I like corey being brown, when we all know that she's white.
She's a damn zebra! zebras scream NIGGER!
Nigga probably shaved his head since he was constantly being compared to his sister.
youre headcanons r poop, m8
Sir what happened in there? Are you alright?
Did the pixel face meme attack you?!
Yeah seriously. I don't get it either
>"You murdered my friends!"
>Girl is obviously on drugs
>bunch of hoodlums were killed anyway
>having hoodlum friends
There is literally NOTHING wrong with this.
In the same situation, Jacket brought the girl home and she wound up tidying up the place and eventually sharing a room with him.
Jacket > Tony
As if you needed more evidence
Don't shoot, I give up. I'm done being a pixel face meme.
>jacket was on the same prision richter was
>jacket also had to fight against cops and prisioners like richter
>jacket survive both sides and is still alive on the prision
>jacket and richter never talked on the prision to each other
>the devs did this as a big FUCK YOU to the fans who are the fans on the game
>no way to play as prisioner jacket on the "release" level
The moment you get attached to a pixel face meme, you know you're fucked.
gotta get a meme!
I just want to make you proud, father. Of my memes.
>in all the levels the thugs attack you first
>if you walked into a random building in that universe people would shoot the fuck out of you for no raisin
is dead ahead THAT hard on hard mode? it was normal for me at leasat.
Are those memes? Are we in the 4chan?
il fuk you up nancy boy
They didnt expect him to show up you moron. They took some new turf and wanted to wave it in front of their competitors face. Its suicide for one asshole to walk into a building full of people who want him dead.
SIR DROP THE PIXEL FACE MEMES ON THE GROUND, SHOW US YOUR HANDS
Wow what a bunch of pixelfaced maniacs! This new fresh meme will be in my next linkin park montage!
>way before hm2 gets released
>boy i sure love this song i wonder how is it called
>hotline miami theme
>what a funny name i bet is for the main menu or someshit
>hm2 gets released
>HOLY SHIT IS HOTLINE MIAMI THEME
> shit nigga i need to know the real name of the song
>open level selector
hotline miami theme
>my fucking face when
Don't you see? THIS is our true nature! We're all pixelfaced memes, waiting to be posted on imageboards!
I don't know you! You're no pixel face mask of mine!
YEAH BUT WHO THE FUCK CALLS A SONG LIKE THAT
hehe, told you he wouldn't recognize our pixelface memes.
>Hey man can you make a song for our game?
>Video games? Yeah I've heard of those, what's it called?
>All right here it is. Hotline Miami theme!
time to say your prayers meme face
Hero Cop Manny Pardo would defeat the dastardly Miami Mutilator with his fists of justice
alright, you get two memes. then you fuck off.
It was pretty obvious what he carved into that panther face. Less obvious was his room that you see for a second.
Why are you guys always spouting memes at me?We're in this shit together, right?
I had the exact same reaction, there was so much bs in hotline miami that people forget.
>Standard mooks not dying in one shot sometimes and generally being slow as shit
>Fat guys dying much more randomly to gunfire
>Various "glass windows" levels such as The second floor of crackdown and Assualt
People really did look at that game with rose tinted glasses, 2 is substantially better although not perfect by any means.
you guys stay in here, i'm gonna find out what's making all this memes
>hes actually naming every filename with the word meme
>taking all this time to get each and every face of HM2 just to call someone a faggot
Sorry, you're not on the list. Dank memes only.
HM's pixelated artstyle reminds me of Rocket Power, specially the faces
I see. And what do these memes have to do with our organization?
you expect me to go with you? you must be meme!
If you were in any memes, you would tell me right?
did you find any memes that could back up my clients claims?
indeed. we did investigate the clients memes.
You want it, huh? How about a meme instead?
you've got a serial memester on your hands, pardo.
Just face it. You're already Meme'd.
Vague, spooky, mystical meme. I am done posting meme faces. Bye anons.
>you will never be stripped and shivering in a filthy public restroom while they all eye you like a piece of meat
>your weakly defiant protesting will never be silenced by a mouthful of Corey's balled up panties and a strip of duct tape
>Tony will never break your virgin asshole to his liking while a hard-bodied Corey lewdly spits on your dick and slowly forces herself onto it
>you will never be sandwiched between Alex and Ash and huff their sweaty clothes as they both rhythmically slam against your girlish frame
>Mark will never
give you a big slice of his pizza and hold your hand >you will never be his Pizza Princess
Dude that's gay
When you go to the pizza joint after the first Fan level who are those gangster dudes at the table? One of them has a parrot on his shoulder. Also why doesn't the cashier react to Mark wearing a bear mask? He lives in Miami so he must know that a shit load of murders were done by people in animal masks right?
What sort of pie is this? I mean it's orange o the outside, so I thought maybe pumpkin, but the inside is all pale. Also why is it so fucking huge?
>rewatch the announcement trailer
>Tony still wasn't there during the execution of Henchy 2 years ago
HOLY SHIT I REALLY LIKE THIS GAME
It makes me so happy.
So that's what was missing, i missed this feeling, of liking games.
It's been so long.
But now that I finish it, I need to kill myself.
not before fallout 4 though
Imma replace hm1 with 2
>unable to switch to your melee when reloading
what a horrible fucking decision.
eh I like the first a lot more
second one was just too frustrating
>disliking the pixel face meme
I want polygon faces to leave
>What? Then why he is in jail?
You can be crazy and still go to jail. Insanity only gets you out of prison if it's proven that while under your mental state you were completely unaware of what you were doing.
You should play it until you feel it as easy as the second one, then go back to the first one.
>that short ass melee range
>2 bullets to kill enemies sometimes
>Niggers may not die
>executing perfect combos until one fucker decides to die and throw his weapon in the face of his friend so you have to execute him or wait for him to wake up
It improved many things, specially melee combat, and with the level editor, you may recreate 1 or whole new levels.
I'm only missing Genocide finaly
fucking hard mode man, but I'm in no rush of plat.
I know right?
Also, when I first played it, (got it from psplus) I've only heard good things about the game, and saw it got awards on
/v/gaso I guessed it must be great.
That main menu, is the first thing you see in the game, and it prepares you for the game itself.
The weird ass Russian text meaning hotline miami, the actual title in small letters, that music, that feel.
I will never ever see that, play it, or feel it again for the first time.
I've only seen the first two, and enjoyed them, they're pretty good.
Guess he's taking it too far with a patreon, but if that's what he wants to do then fine, I don't care.
And the ransom one was funny
You guys are going to try your best and make decent levels, right?
>Its a bright light at the begining
>The title shows
>The palms getting BTFO
I'm also glad they patched that whenever it starts, it actually starts in continue instead of new game.
im going to make whole chapters for each character, then go full autism and recreate my waifuh, the school shooting simulator then pardo loosing his shit and using a gun for that delicious executions, if the game let us use more music i will make the son a level with "pursuit" because i was dissapointed, the writter level could be he is trapped on the middle of a bank robbery, etc.
>Simma Hem only plays faintly in the background with a distorted pitch on the level intros of worst mask
I know, that was mostly personal, I love Eleonor Lamb's story, seeing the world through a little sister, seeing a different part of rapture with different problems and of course BEING A FUCKING BIG DADDY HOLY SHIT DRILL THROUGH TIME.
I like my backstory more than Jack in the first one too, Subject Delta is pretty cool and had a hard life.
Heh, I guess aside from cave story, ghost trick and bully which where one game only, and Metroid 1 and 2 are not that special, they're good
zero mission as 1 thoughbut not as good.
Thanks for noticing too.
Hotline Miami 2 was so fun
I was just trying to S-rank Dead Ahead on Hard and there is yet another thing that doesn't make sense to me - the randomized weaponry.
I suppose it was to add even more unpredictability and difficulty, but there are no weapon spawns in 2 and so if you get a shitty weapon selection for enemies, the level might become exponentially harder or borderline impossible. If you enter the second room in Dead Ahead with a shotgun, it's pretty easy to clear the initial wave. But if no enemy with a shotgun spawned in the previous stage and you end up with an SMG, then you're much more fucked. There are more examples like this.
I would understand this in the first game which promoted freestyle, adapting, and trying different approaches. HM2 is one of the most restrictive games I played in the recent years, especially on Hard, so all it does is add another layer of autism in the form of quitting to the main menu and restarting the level to see if the enemies got good weapons.
>inb4 git gud
There's no getting good against full random.
>not wanting your insides flooded with the contents of Tony's gigantic balls and begging Corey to dam it all inside with her palm and call you a dirty useless sissy
>not wanting to be a slutty pizza princess
The first game didn't require you to employ the highest level of autism and plan every level down to every fucking step on Hard difficulty.
And I could swear only the pickup weapons were randomized in 1. I'm not sure, however, but I know for sure that I've completed a pre-patch version of the first game so that might be the case.
It plays in Jake's house, but only the final riff of the song, and it somehow sounds different in the game.
I take a song with full on lyrics would've been kinda weird for a level, but it's still
criminalthat they barely even used it at all when it's in the soundtrack
Here's a question, gang:
If Hotline Miami was Voice Acted, who would you choose to play the characters?
Protip: Rewinding the level will randomize the weapons.
Not that it helps you much when you've already done most of the level and it's some shit later on bothering you but it's better than going to the main menu every time.
Also have you tried getting good?
>that goofy ass swan
holy shit I can't breathe
WHY ARE YOU HERE? YOU'RE NO GUEST OF MINE!
That shit level for Pardo where you raid a dock with enemies that need pixel perfect accuracy from sporadic guns.
2 Floors later if you didn't find a gun have fun when the bumrush horde comes running and a big black man reams you because the game always makes you pick up that 1 empty weapon out of a stack of 10
I want to hold hands with mark on the way to pick up our pizza.
Hang on just a fucking second. Jacket wasn't with all the other dead characters at the beginning of Hard Mode. Is he so badass he can survive a nuke?
The nuke propelled him through time, 30 years into the future.
I want to sit in Mark's lap and smother him with pepperoni kisses.
The art director said that the fan comic about Carl was canon, as little as there was to it.
This is why I'm a little mad at Dennaton. They have in their hands one of the coolest game worlds and stories ever, with super tight gameplay and aesthetics but they decide to walk away from it all in favor of making other games(which I can understand, but still)
There's so much room for more lore and stories, and they're gonna give us a level editor with ultimately limiting capabilities. Idk just my onion
fuck you 4chan I didnt mean to hit enter
I was playing subway and I punched the green guy that alerts all the other thugs and right clicked him and he turned into a black man
hes not hostile
i've never even seen this sprite in the game what the fuck
fucking black guys invading my game