I see a lot of posts about girls streaming on twitch
I agree, 95% of them are fucking either awful at their respective games or blatantly using their tits to get donations and subs. Or worse, both.
But you guys can't even see that the solution is so fucking simple. Everyone wins, even twitch as they make a shit load more money.
Screen cap this, million dollar idea incoming:
It's easy. Effective immediately, all females and pan/ay/bi/robo trannies on twitch are moved to their new sister site, twat.tv.
The site would be the exact same functionality as twitch with one main differnce: it's now 18+ and basically a cam site. Now the big titted ladies of twitch can effectively whore themselves out for subs even better for more money.
>b-but what about my favorite streamer she's good qt the game gonna go pro soon and isn't a whore
Doesn't matter. Who said u needed to do adult themed things on twat.tv? You can keep your same old stream and do the same shit. Just now on a different site. Nothing has changed, I doubt people will stop coming to your stream because you're on a 18+ site and you aren't fingering yourself for donations on cam while playing league of shitters. Right?
Follow and subscribe pls xD
I disagree, let them keep doing it
It only showcases the fact that women only adopt hobbies superficially in order to milk men for attention/money, rather than because they actually enjoy them
I know why they do it, but camwhoring shouldnt be on a gaming site.
if I wanted to see tits, I wouldnt go on twitch. im not a fucking idiot, and if you cant find porn on the internet at this point you should probably off yourself.
that being said, it's pathetic what these sluts do for money. and the people that enable it are even more pathetic.
>be a shitty streamer
>get angry at women
>make fuckawful threads on /v/
theres already camwhoring sites to that, that site would be competing. also does no one understand the whole point of passing it off as a gaming channel? sex sells whether or not its adult rated.
no, they have a valid point. without tits you actually have to BE INTERESTING to get viewers.
these whores are taking the easy way out. even if I like tits, it isnt gaming content. putting a mouse between your tits is not videogames.
>It only showcases the fact that women only adopt hobbies superficially in order to milk men for attention/money, rather than because they actually enjoy them
I was bored one day and watching the faggot ONLYUSEMEBLADE.
There was this girl he had on stream who said she hasn't play a game for like 10 years, but said she planned on streaming soon.
Shit is fucking retarded.
TITS ARE INTERESTING
Shit I'm not that interested in seeing a pair of tits play games either but it seems a huge amount of people are, children or not.
Doesn't twitch get a flat 50% of all sub money?
the problem with that is women like to be slutty, but they're afraid of being associated with being sluts.
streaming on twat.tv automatically labels you as a slut, at this is no good if all you're after is some casual sluttiness
>It only showcases the fact that women only adopt hobbies superficially in order to milk men for attention/money, rather than because they actually enjoy them
Only if the "men" let them. There are many hobbies that women enjoy and don't need any attention. But the gamers are giving it for free and are willing to throw in some extra cash. Would be stupid to not take the opportunity.
>W-why do they do this?
Because they can and because horny little teenagers and thirsty 20-somethings give them views, attention and money.
If you really want to stop them report them for violation of the ToS and stop giving them attention.
OP and so many others are butt hurt that a pretty girl likes to stream. If cucks wanna view a girl just for her titts who gives a fuck? If you were a female you might use your sexuality to increase viewers as well. There are some female streamers that don't do this either and you are over generalizing an entire sex based off of a minority of women who simply made a decision to show off some cleavage.
Some of those tits are large and need air to breathe. When i stream my cock is out but no one knows since it is generally below my waist ;)
Now shut the fuck up with your girl streamer threads you fucking shit poster.
>a large amount of money
its chump change especially considering she will pretty much never get that much ever again.
>watching people play video games
>listening to people play video games
>doing any of the above
It's time to end it all because you've nothing left to lose. Please, for the good of humanity, end it.
if you have a donation tracker and your webcam is over 50% of the screen, kill yourself now.
I am not okay with this and I never will be because it is soft pornography at best, a violent cock-tease at worst.
All I am saying is to report and move on. There is nothing more that you can do.
This is physically painful.
Twitch whores get to break so many rules as long as they bring in subscriber numbers
person A and person B can both show their ass on cam but person B will get banned for it because she doesn't bring in the same sub numbers (which Twitch gets a cut of) that person A does.
It's literally crooked as hell.
But these girls are the visible part of the iceberg that is the twitch community anon.
Actually a smart idea OP and you should create it. I guarantee something like this will start up soon enough.
>implying male streamers are interesting
Streaming is literally pewdiepie tier.
I'd go as far as to say female streamers are better because at least they offer tits, which are of way more value than you get out of any male streamer.
Everyone on twitch with a cam is an attention whore, prove me wrong.
>fingering for donation
The moment someone actually do this, I'd sub to her forever. All camwhores are fucking tease. Sure, you get occasional nipple slip, but when it comes to the vagooo, all of them just chicken out and tell their viewers that they're not sluts.
Fucking human trash. They're worse than nvidia.
>Kacey is a good female streamer
stopped right there, because your white knighting is what is killing gaming, giving bitches this much attention encourages them, fucking bitch, people like her need to get raped on cam, sort of like a swatting, but put a rape spin on it, that will teach them to act like whores, think your safe behind a cam, nah bitch you still gonna get fucked ifg you act like slut
She wouldn't never need famous anyway if she wasn't dating her retarded streaming bf anyway. She literally would be shit, that's the sad part.
And he blindly doesn't know he's being used.
I stream games on twitch, mostly for my friends and I use a cam. Because it makes it more personal. You can just go on Youtube if you want some gameplay.
Twitch isn't only about the game it's also about the streamer and how he interacts with viewers.
Haha, that girl. She is better at fucking LoL than I ever was. WITH her feet. I would lose against her mid. Proves how shitty I was but still, its hillarious to watch her. And the slavic screaming to her mom when she want some coffee or something.
If your gender/sexual orientation/lack thereof/ existence as a wolf in all aspects except physcial is such an important part of you that it's the first thing you want people to know about you, I immediately don't care.
>be me 5 minutes ago
>go on twitch
>search for a chill game who hasnt many viewers
>silent hill 2
>twitch dot tv/virlomi
>donate button right on top of everything
even the good gold games are not save
the end is near my friends
>I stream games on twitch, mostly for my friends and I use a cam
Alright fine, but why would you want a camera, after all they already know you.
>Because it makes it more personal.
But why there's need to be that, think of it this way, it's like if every post you made here on 4chan would have your face attached, would that make it more personal? You are on twitch to play videogames and discuss them with your viewers, I personally only watch highly skilled streamers so that's why perhaps I don't get it, but it simply seems dumb, and not having a cam would actually make the gameplay better.
>someone took the time to make this and thought it would be a good idea
I'm all for transpeople being able to be themselves uninhibited (I'm a big fan of Lana Wachowski) but fuck, just go about it. And if it doesn't concern you, then just leave it alone.
The real losers here are the thristy men that are actually giving these girls money. I blame them. I don't really blame the girls for exploiting them and getting some extra attention and money while playing video games.
Starting off with "I'M TRANSGENDER" is dumb but other than that this is actually pretty reasonable.
>understands and accepts that people have different beliefs about trans
>mentions preferred pronouns but says it's not a big deal if people don't use them
hafu is good but i watch streams to fall asleep and she constantly screams in a high pitched shrill asian hag voice so i hate that bitch
she's also only good at >hearthstone
i dont really watch any other games, so it beats me
you stream because you enjoy gaming and want to share your enjoyment of gaming, and if something else results from that, then cool. a lot of these chicks turn that assbackwards and start with the results bit.
I stream sometimes. I only have like 140 followers but it's not like I'm doing it to get rich. It's so I can talk to a few people while I run through shit like Yakuza and Persona 4.
I don't care about female streamers if they are making money fair play but it's not like they are actually relevant to anything.. Streaming will die eventually, Youtube will die eventually but lonely guys trying to validate themselves to women will be eternal
How is this different from male streamers who get donations with personality? Like Towelliee or dansgaming are constantly getting donations and thanking people for them while being total shit at any game they play.
all that social faggery under her stream
How is ManVsGame even getting that amount of viewer?
Every time I go to his stream he seems mad, angry, frustrated has a shit face and doesn't interact with chat at all.
He just looks like he's pissed off 24/24 I don't get the appeal.
>getting donations for charisma is the same as getting donations for having tits
i know this is absolutely wrong but it's so wrong that i can't actually think of a way to refute it
their core thing though wasn't "i'm hot i'm gonna make mahnies." none of them could have thought they'd get anywhere with it. these chicks though have a totally different view. it's all about the money for a lot of them from the jump. there'll probably be a college course soon enough or a fucking udemy on how to be a gamergrrrrl and stream it.
It's easier for women, because they're women.
Just like how women can look good by just having good genes and staying skinny but men have to build muscle and exercise and work hard to look good.
>mass effect games
>assassins creed 4
>good genes and staying skinny
This is true for men aswell, alot of girls like the skinny-faggot type.
However if a man is ugly he needs to build muscles to be atleast remotely attractive, girls unless they were born retarded just need make up.
>report her to IRS
>she suddenly owes 20k in back-taxes
>oil princes nowhere to be seen
How is not easy for charismatic men? They are just basicly themselves.
The way I see it is, both genders are using what they can, be it charisma or tits. Besides its good from societal view that money goes from naive beta males to entrepreneur-spirited driven young women.
>Hall of BBC
this has made my day. Women at their finest
That's the real question isn't it? I was thinking of a similar situation in the shower just before.
There's no great revelations to be had here: sexuality is a core part of human life. Things like concubines/mistresses and prostitution outright wouldn't exist if women didn't want to peddle their bodies for cash and/or if men didn't want what they were selling. As is, I know women that I personally wouldn't put my dick anywhere near get to have sex with more people than I ever will but I take that more as a statement of people's standards rather than my ability to get laid one way or another. FWIW I am 27, a father of 2 and in a LTR.
So what is the difference? There is no difference I guess. People will donate to things they desire and in cases like pewdiepie I think he got so famous because he spoke in a way that people wanted to be friends with him and that was his angle: he exploited a playful personality in order to attract faceless mooks on the internet that desired a popular and relatively attractive friend. Trying to gain something from the association via ozmosis perhaps? I don't know.
At the end of the day much like bad games getting the greenlight on steam with no quality control whatsoever does borderline pornographic pandering like some of these above images show make me wonder if twitch.tv doesn't really give a fuck about what brings in the $ so long as it isn't outright illegal. I personally feels like it erodes my confidence in the service instead of it influencing my opinion on the nebulous issue of women in gaming per se.
>At the end of the day much like bad games getting the greenlight on steam with no quality control whatsoever does borderline pornographic pandering like some of these above images show make me wonder if twitch.tv doesn't really give a fuck about what brings in the $ so long as it isn't outright illegal.
Companies wanting to maximize their revenue and completely disregarding ethics unless it makes them sell more? Who would have thought?
>pooling money in new shoes before bills
I seriously want to slit the throat of anyone who gives money to these cunts
Who the fuck are these sad sacks? If they are on welfare, they need their money taken away. If they have a job... how do they even manage to interact on a day to day basis with coworkers if they are this pathetic? Them being dead would free up tax dollars or a job placement for someone who might actually be worth the oxygen they are using
>people pay her bills
At least she won the game, I think.
from what I've read of people who talk to donators they're usually like min wage workers with a shit life and they get some weird satisfaction for donating and having their message on the screen.
>PAY FOR MY EXISTANCE
If you ever think youre a useless piece of trash and a leech to humanity that does nothing and play video games, remember, there are bigger failures, and at least you can recover...
>giving this many fucks about something you have no control over.
Be happy the other sex is playing video games in general. If some portion of them are dumb bimbos who gives a fuck? You can't blame them from using their "assets" heh heh.
If both intelligent woman and dumb cam whores get into gaming, then gaming will become more acceptable to society in general.
There are females who can kick my ass on CSGO,league, you name it. Some are very good. I can tell you must be a cuck like OP since you are misogynistic and enjoy generalizing.
>making thousands of dollars off of stream viewers
Man that's nuts. Why do people watch streamers, let alone pay them money? Why don't people just, I don't know, play video games? Fuck I'm gonna go play some Insurgency right now.
>Be happy the other sex is playing video games in general
God no. All this SJW PC bullshit started because of this. Because bitches don't understand trashtalking is part of the game.
Having your bills listed definitely is cyberbegging but having a donation link I'm not so sure I agree there.
In any case I would stream more if I felt like i could make any sort of money off of it but I used to stream constantly and nobody watched.
Begging or not its easy money and thats always nice.
I guess it makes sense, stupid people are notorious for throwing their money at stupid crap like this, gambling, tobacco etc.
That's the reason they are in the minimum wage jobs, they are useless and pathetic. I still wish these people would die though because they fund other stupid useless people of the opposite gender that don't deserve to be thrown money. It goes to these bitches heads, they don't even have to put out any more to get money and attention
It might net them money on the short term, but it's not a career. Sooner or later they're going to have to get a real job, which will be fun, when you try and explain that massive gap in your work history.
Think of it this way. The second the guy suffers a major injury or becomes shit at games it's all over. He literally has nothing to put on his resume for all those years spent streaming games and getting donations. You can't realistically expect to make this a stable job no matter what. Viewers will eventually dwindle, games will stop being popular, etc.
It all upsets me, these people are parasites and enablers. Bottom of the barrel scum that would not be missed
Modern civilisation is fucking awful, I really fucking hate everything about it. It's like wearing nightmare goggles
yeah I suppose, but I'd totally do it in addition to my job if I felt like I could make some money off of it. I don't know if I'd ever do it full time unless I made a fuck ton of cash like sodapoppin to where i could buy a house and get a retirement fund going or something.
>not posting the superior version
To be honest it's not different than sports, take soccer/football, 11 tards payed millions on millions to run behind ball. though olympics are actually respectable and require skill, but back on topic, in this world if you want to make money you don't do an honest job, that's what dumb people do, a carpenter/mason that breaks his spine working 10 hours a day and is on minimum wage? Yeah that's an honest job, all honest jobs are hard working and low reward and you won't get anywhere with them, if you want to make money, you have to outsmart people, you have to scam people, you have to pretty much play with them like >>291011734
implied the whole entertainment industry is about that, just look at the trash that television proposes, twich is no different, it's all about baiting people into liking you and make them feel like they are your friends so that they "support" you.
You know I wouldn't have a problem with people watching streamers, if they actually watched people who were actually good at the games. 95% of these streamers are like average or above average at best.
I still want to belive, even if 99,99999% of them is like that, I want to belive there's even just 1 in the whole word that simply minds her own business.
You aren't suposed to stream for donations, you are suposed to recieve donations for streaming, and just because they don't list their shopping expenses doesent mean that's what they're trying to cover up with donations.
Sometimes i wish there were some seats in the euro parlament and murican' one just for internet and digital things that properly regulated anything that affects the real world.
>donations on streaming sites are now taxed 80% due to being classed under the principle of "unearned money" just like gambling, and is split betweeen the state and the game company.
I may have just dreamed a load of horseshit, but hey.
>tfw people think that is real
>tfw he done that to mock streamers who do that
>tfw you can figure this out with a 5 second google
Literally the problem with this world, read something then automatically take it as fact.
That's too generic, streamers could create websites or a youtube acc on their own, post links to said websites and thjere they could have all the info needed for donations.
Besides there's all that subscription thing off which twitch makes money directly.
Nigger your fucking playing a game. Zero content created, i must then create content every fucking time i load up Steam!
Kill yourself cuck you own no intellectual properity to your fucking stream or game your playing.
So remove the sub shit. Fuck them its not content creation at all and barely meets entertainment value. Ban anyone who promotes donation shit unless its officially sanctioned by twitch for a charity event.
>HURR IF I PLAY A GAME IM CREATING CONTENT
Shitty post of the day award for ya
>So remove the sub shit.
You need to think as if you were in twitch's pants, it's making them shitloads of money, they will never remove it.
Actually Im surpised they didn't give the option for streams to be viewed for subs-only for maximum jewing.
the game isn't the content, the reactionary commentary is the content
this is an absolutely irrefutable fact, regardless of your personal evaluation on the worth of that content
They're taking an easy way to make a few bucks with little effort. If you could make a few grand off of streamING FNAF for a couple land whales, would you be retarded enough to refuse?
This reads like it was written by a retarded 15 year old.
Your idea is shitty.
Cam girls on twitch don't need to be "solved". The whole thing is a microcosm of the male/female dynamic. This behavior happens in all aspects of society. Women flaunt for men. And men give to women. The only difference is, with twitch, it's very distilled. So it's easy to see the components at work.
Getting upset at the cam girls on twitch, is like getting upset at the waitresses at Hooters.
It only makes you silly for getting mad. Because it doesn't make sense why you went there in the first place. You KNOW Hooters girls don't get naked. Why are you even there?
Hey retard, if you are recording or broadcasting/streaming it while you do it you are creating content.
I wont ask you to kill yourself, just never reproduce you uneducated swine.
I don't even care. I really don't care about this at all. I only care that I see fags be all like "well they're just doing it cause they can and the men enable them" which is true and the men are faggots but that really doesn't take away from the fact that these bitches are almost all dumb whores. I dont hate them for getting money for being dumb whores, i hate them for being dumb whores. Whats wrong with hating dumb whores? furthermore why do you feel the need to defend them, they dont need your help, they dont care if some nerds talk shit about them, they get paid either way.
>Whats wrong with hating dumb whores?
It's unhealthy to hate anything that doesn't hurt anyone. It's pointless, and only makes you look immature, that you would be emotionally affected over something inconsequential.
It would actually be a step up if you hated them for getting money.(which is still immature) Because then you could at least argue that they're exploiting people. But because you don't even care about them making money, you have no reason to hate them.
>So...you think pewdiepie shit is okay and cool then? drink bleach
It's certainly added value. Why do you think his channel has more views and subscribers than a random playthrough by Silent Gordon?
For real, don't hate the chicks milking their tits for money. Hate the retards who give them the money in the first place. If I could make dosh just showing biceps, I'd fucking do it.
I don't think the rules ban all cleavage. Only things like lingerie. I don't think they have the authority to ban casual clothes, which happen to have a plunging neck line. That's too common of wear in casual settings. Hell, even professional offices can't enforce against cleavage. They might run into a discrimination case, or some shit.
I remember a news story where a bank got sued, because they tried to make this sexy worker where less form-fitting skirts. And it was just a regular pencil skirt. She just looked sexy in it.
that's not what i said at all
i just said that it's technically content
also by reactionary i meant reacting to the game, which encompasses both pewdiepie and your favorite streamer, along with every other person in the business.
it hurts both women and the industry
Why hate the guys giving them money? I wouldn't hate them for the same reason I don't hate the dumb whores. Their actions are inconsequential.
>it hurts both women and the industry
Give me an example for each.
no its not its fun as fuck. I love coming into these threads and seeing all the pics of the money grubbing skanks pointing their cameras at their tits, the huge face cams with the actual gameplay cams minimized, it makes me giggle like crazy. I still dont see why you and other people are going out of your way to defend these girls, they don't need it, no one is stopping them from doing what they're doing.
You're still not understanding. I dont hate them for getting money. I hate them for being dumb whores. I hate the donators as much as the bitches. They're both awful faggots. Tell me Im wrong
>I remember a news story where a bank got sued, because they tried to make this sexy worker where less form-fitting skirts. And it was just a regular pencil skirt. She just looked sexy in it.
Fat whales bitching at the fat whales of HR, as per usual.
professional offices both have the authority to and the precedential legal right to enforce against cleavage, and any suggestive garment, within reason. this includes most cleavage-y tanktops that female streamers wear. that shit would never fly in pretty much any profession outside of possibly manual labor
it hurts women by turning their gender into a joke that most sensible males are wary of at best
it hurts the industry by turning it into a joke that most people are wary of at best
both of these effects are relatively minor in the long run, but by no means are tit-cams a simple harmless niche
I don't defend the girls. That's a blackknight/whiteknight mentality. I often see these threads, and wonder why anyone would get mad at camwhores. If you're not mad at the camwhores, then I'm not talking about you. You can stop replying to me right now.
I only want to help people through this thought-exercise. Because these threads are sustained by the notion that what the camwhores are doing, is something that needs to be stopped. Men get angry, and make the same dumb arguments against cams you hear time and time again. It's kind of annoying, hearing the basis for hate some people have.
it creates an atmosphere where women are constantly compared to cleavage-flaunting broads? it's hard for a woman to be taken seriously when disingenuous sluts are the dominating female presence in the community? it reinforces the notion that women only play videogames to dominate it with their tits? maybe i could have worded it better
>If you're not mad at the camwhores
Im definitely not mad at them they can do whatever the fuck they want but that doesn't stop them from being jackasses regardless. They'd be jackasses i dont like even if they didn't livestream. They're not awful because they stream, they're awful because they're awful and they happen to stream. And awful people are fun to laugh at.
>You can stop replying to me right now.
Suck my cock little miss attitude
>I only want to help people through this thought-exercise
Why. Seriously, why the fuck do you even care. No one is hurting these women. You could even hide these threads if the mean ol' misogyny makes you so upset.
>watching anything but tournament and top 1% player streams
Please kill yourself if you watch anyone because of their personality, or if they play non-competitive games without speedrunning them.
My main problem with this deal is that it's basically prostitution, but actually banging guys on the street for money was considered to be extremely low status, this thing isn't, and it damages society as a whole for pretty much pushing females into this kind of shit "hey look what do I need to study for, Im a female I can jus show my tits on cam and play video games and they will give me enough money to set for life"
This is honestly not different from sucking cocks to get into a tv show.
Name the sluttiest streamer you know on twitch.
Bonus points if there are nudes of her.
>no Wu-Tang symbol
Twitch should just ban facecams and microphones.
Make it all about the game.
What if the people wouldn't be so judgemental, slut-shaming and approached each woman as an individual without prejudice based on their experience with entertainers? Too difficult.
Well I'm not expert on the law. So maybe you're right. Maybe certain business are allowed to enforce a ban on cleavage.
Still, is that the type of ban you want in a setting like twitch? Where the atmosphere is supposed to be loose and casual. Every other woman you see on the street, will be sporting some level of cleavage. Be it little or a lot. It's just regular attire. So then, why should they need to be restricted from wearing something so standard?
If you take women as a joke because some of them flaunt their cleavage for the camera, then that is a "you" problem. Because you are making it into a problem, where there otherwise wouldn't be one. As soon as you stop treating women like a joke, because a fraction of them flaunt their cleavage, then suddenly the problem no longer exists.
Twitch cam girls are not more a detriment to the industry than what BangBros are to the movie industry, Playboy is to the magazine industry, Cinemax is to the TV industry, Stipclubs are to the bar industry. No one looks at those things, and suddenly thinks the entire industry is a joke.
Twitch is actually very tame in comparison.
>What if the people wouldn't be so judgemental, nazi-shaming and approached each aryan as an individual without prejudice based on their experience with jews? Too difficult.
You are judged by what you do.
>The site would be the exact same functionality as twitch with one main differnce: it's now 18+ and basically a cam site. Now the big titted ladies of twitch can effectively whore themselves out for subs even better for more money.
You think they'd _ever_ admit they're not that?
Mass Effect was fine, 3 had a shit ending and some really tacky character writing on top
>Assassins creed 4
nigga you serious, m-muh pirates was boss as shit
>she quit because of anal herpes
>literally left because she was butthurt
>now all she does is get butthurt on twitch and mfc
not even trying to push this bait
That would imply that being a "slut" is a bad thing. Why do you hate sexuality? I know I'm on /v/ where you prefer violent slaughter to erotic content, but explain it to me. What scares you on it?
There is only one genuine girl streamer, and that's sheever.
This webm poorly demonstrates that fact.
>if you don't respect people with no sexual standards you must hate sex
>if you don't respect alcoholics then you must hate alcohol
>if you don't respect spoiled children then you must hate children
I can keep going
yes, i agree, the world would be better if everyone stopped having prejudices based on their past experiences and their previous knowledge of what is going on in their community
HOWEVER since as far as i know shangri-la does not exist and definitely isn't about to cover the earth, maybe we should just start small.
>Twitch cam girls are not more a detriment to the industry than what BangBros are to the movie industry, Playboy is to the magazine industry, Cinemax is to the TV industry, Stipclubs are to the bar industry.
i knew this argument was coming
the difference is that all of those are strictly pornographic establishments, except cinemax which i dont really understand why you mentioned it
it's more akin to a waitress exposing her cleavage to get bigger tips, which i'm sure you can agree is offensive to both men and women, and arguably damaging to feminism
that's fucking stupid anon
Yea, you got the blackknight mentality. You want to make this exchange hostile. When all I was trying to do, is make certain you know I have no reason to talk to you. You still took that as some kind of offense.
I care about these threads, because I don't like the fact that it's so obvious to me why no one should care about camwhores, and yet they do. I hate anger based on ignorance. At least people should have a well thought out argument, even if it's wrong. That's better than getting emotional, and posting the first angry sentiment that comes to their mind.
>this person likes something I don't
you do realise they dont do it for the games right? find me a single female streamer no matter how many views, without huge fucking buttons begging for donations "so they can keep streamin" there isnt a single gaymer grill stream who doesnt do it 100% for them thirsty beta donations
>I've been called a slut by guys that I refused to sleep with.
then you aren't a slut then are you?
Refusing to have sex with someone is pretty much the opposite of sluttiness.
>I don't respect idiots
>HEY I WAS CALLED AN IDIOT ONE TIME AS AN INSULT EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT ONE, YOU SHOULD BE NICER TO IDIOTS
>the difference is that all of those are strictly pornographic establishments
Fair enough. Then how about Deviantart for artist industry. It's for all ages, yet you're still allowed to post characters with cleavage, and even greater suggestive material, without an age gate.
Howard Stern for the Radio industry. When he was on FM radio, there was nothing stopping the kids from listening to him in the morning hours, have strippers in the studio, and play with dildos.
I mentioned Cinemax, because of their late night programming had softcore porn.
>it's more akin to a waitress exposing her cleavage to get bigger tips, which i'm sure you can agree is offensive to both men and women, and arguably damaging to feminism
No, I don't believe that's a problem. Hooters exists, and that's not a problem for the restaurant industry.
You're complaining about nothing.
>No sexual standards have nothing to do with sluttiness either
that's the entire point actually.
Slut is just a mean way of saying promiscuous.
Promiscuity is based on your sexual standards and self-worth.
>And that you don't respect people with intellectual disability says a lot about you.
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well you lost me.
I was going for it, but with this one line ya blew it and I saw the bait.
If you were being straight with me you wouldn't assume idiot means disabled.
A disabled person can't help their condition, but an idiot has the brain function to be intelligent but still isn't so.
Not bad though, you had me going for a bit.
Guys who are experienced barely care about this kind of thing. That's why it's so embarrassing to post here and listen to manchildren with waifus waxing lyrical about what a slut is or isn't. It's easy to demand a virgin when you're one yourself.
I try not to care much really
But when I see guys giving 300+ dollars to these whores when they could use the money to touch some real tits I get little pissed off
this conversation is simply you coming up with metaphors that don't really accurately capture the problem, and then refuting that metaphor
it's not a real argument, but fine
hooters is, yet again, contained within itself as a place where waitresses are slutty and dudes are thirsty motherfuckers
it would be a problem if waitresses in other restaurants were both allowed to and felt little shame for dressing like a waitress at hooters, because male patrons would bother non-slutty waitresses, both men and women would not want to go to that restaurant because of the slutty waitresses, and that restaurant would be looked down upon as a hive of sluttiness
But that's their issue, you're not supposed to enjoy sex or pursue it, you're an object to be claimed in victory. Agency scares them because it means you don't automatically choose them.
>women who do whatever they want with their bodies aren't among the ones that value themselves the most
If I may answer a question with a question: Is my level of caring excessive in comparison to the circumstance?
I don't think so. I read posts like OP's, and then try to convince them to think differently.
I suppose you could say they're wasting their time and energy, and I hate the fact that they're doing that. I don't mean to suggest that all discussion on /v/ should be highfalutin lofty discussion. But I see 0 reason to care about cam girls. These threads are as good as shitposting, imo.
But that's not all. I was watching some of Jimquisitions stuff today and I ran across his jew speech about people using adblock. Let's spell out something for Jim.
1. Having a donation link or whatever so that good quality is shit is paid for after the fact of watching is acceptable. Having ads upfront so you get paid even if your content is mediocre (like most of his work is) is not.
2. we expect you to do more than write a hyperbolic 'review' of a game which amounts to just putting a VO on some footage from deliberately bad games. Compared with TB and AJ who actually put in the legwork and they get the rewards justly deserved.
3. Bitching at people on the internet about not wanting to support a cancerous business model like youtube ad service when it is a fundamental fucking right not to live in a 1984 oppressive dystopian shithole is in itself cancerous.
I remember when youtube was free and guys like yahtzee were big because they were attached to a real business. Not these work from home freelance idiots whose main gimmick is schmoozling *an* audience with moderate or low quality videos about shit noone cares about.
>>implying women who do whatever they want with their bodies aren't among the ones that value themselves the most
Thats not true in the slightest, there's as many women who have as much sex as they want who have chronic depression and self worth issues as ones who have confidence and whatever. It's irrelevant.
How is it even remotely imaginable that guy who died 70 years ago is being used as the yard stick by which I am measured? What next? Vlad the Impaler? I'm sure anyone who went around murdering muslims and drinking their blood would probably be celebrated by more than just a few people in the modern world but it's still genocide and religious bigotry.
Oh the world is such a funny thing.
>Is my level of caring excessive in comparison to the circumstance?
Yes. You're going on some type of moral crusade to change the hearts and minds of a bunch of nerds who are mean to girls who suck at video games filming themselves playing videogames.
>But I see 0 reason to care about cam girls
Whether or not you think people should care it's still related to video games
>in the modern world but it's still genocide and religious bigotry.
why are you so judgemental of others hobbies? There are girls who fuck a different guy each day and there are guys who like to kills jews, but don't judge me from my past Im totally over that :^)
You chose the most convenient metaphor to refute. I can't think of a better example. However, the other metaphors still fit within your guidelines. Deviant art is mixed media, It's the most popular art site to visit. Howard Stern was aired on mixed content radio stations. The stations he was on, would dominate in the ratings for their respective location.
>in the age of waifuism, people are surprised guys give money to chicks just to talk to them. Or refer to them. Or just say their nickname.
In the age of waifuism, I'm surprised these guys don't know they can spend their money better.
A VR helmet is only a few hundred dollars.
And if you really want something real, you can literally pay women to come to your home, talk with you, hug you, play video games and either keep it completely non-sexual or get a hooker and it would be cheaper than what these guys are paying for in donations.
mental illnesses are often caused or partially caused genetically, saying something is mental does not disclose that it is in no way biological.
For example serial killers are believed to share certain violent genes that when coupled with a bad childhood create the kind of maniac that will kidnap people and eat their flesh.
deviantart is just art, and while drawing "my oc sonic character with big big tits" is pretty stupid, it's not really preventing women from invading art by storm or causing any real damage to their position in the industry.
the howard stern show has literally been sued for like 2 million dollars by the FCC for indecent programming, so that's not really a good comparison either.
>Yes. You're going on some type of moral crusade to change the hearts and minds of a bunch of nerds who are mean to girls who suck at video games filming themselves playing videogames.
You have really over-inflated the situation in you mind.
I don't come looking for these threads. I refresh the catalog, and happen to see these threads when scanning.
I do try to change people's minds, but isn't that common with a lot of conversation? It would be nice if I were persuasive. Rather than just typing weightless commentary. I mean, I have your attention, right?
I don't have any moral purpose. I already told you that I only care because I'm somewhat annoyed. That sounds like a moral crusade to you?
You still have that blackknight mentality. And I'm the dumb fucking whiteknight who's all moral and shit, and cares about the plight of women or something. You really ought to get over that.
>it's not really preventing women from invading art by storm or causing any real damage to their position in the industry.
Explain how twitch is preventing women from invading video games. From what I see, women's role in the industry continues to become more regarded than ever, coinciding with the growth of twitch and cam girls.
How does being sued for the FCC invalidate Howard as an example?
This reeks of misandry. You sound jealous that women can do this and be financially successful at it and you can't. Or maybe you donated a large sum and are upset she didn't do anything other than say thank you? Either way, you sound mad.
>go to kaceytron's stream to see what the fuck is all the fuss about
>watch a random video of CS:GO
>she plays horribly for few minutes and proceeds to argue with some guy for the next 30 minutes
>table headings aren't really headings
>unequal amount of data
>no relevant conclusions can be made from it
>sources for male section are extremely questionable
these tables gave me aids
Men can do the exact same thing on Twitch, why aren't you making six figures streaming video games?
the general tone towards women in twitch at least is pretty hostile, as evidenced by this thread and the fact that it exists
howard was already seen as so indecent and toxic that he was forced off public radio by a US federal organization
not exactly a good example of how indecent and toxic behavior isn't harmful, or did you forget what you were arguing about?
There are good girl streamers. I follow Ariablarg since the justin.tv times. She is really funny, but she doesnt stream anymore since she had a baby.
Pokket is active again and is pretty nice. She play mmos.
MrBadExample is also funny but has little audience and dont stream this much.
There are more but my english is so shit that im tired trying to do it better.
>living a live in an entitlement bubble
>can't comprehend simple statistics
>need to use a strawman argument
oh wow, i guess it takes a special kind of asshole attitude to become a streamer
so you are telling me that there is such a large underground market of underaged prostitutes in the USA that for every "old" hoe you see on the street there are two 12 year olds who get trafficed by pimps?
yeah that's like, serious bullshit, maybe in china or india but not america, come on
Cognitive dissonance. In their mind, they're not pathetic enough to spend so much money on fake waifus or prostitute, but supporting a #WorkingGal is legit and morally satisfying.
Fucking hilarious shit.
So whats going to happen when the shit hits the fan and the whole streamers and lets play channels get taken to by outside forces? Surely they can't keep this little game up forever, can they?
what fucking conclusion am i supposed to draw here
the only statistics for males are the percent of male prostitutes among all prostitutes according to a writer for the boston phoenix in 1997, and the average ages of males entering/leaving the profession as found by the christian science monitor in 1996
the rest of the sources imply the data is both outdated and misconstrued, for example providing statistics for the US only mixed with statistics for the entire world
i was thinking this would be closer
I hate streamers too, but let them be.
Once the whole streaming crap dies out, and these bitches try to find employment elsewhere, what'll they say to the potential employer?
"Oh I was uh, playing video games and showing off my tits on a website"
They are pathetic. Let them continue being stupid.
Also, isn't it pretty damn hypocritical that they're whoring out and showing off their bodies............. yet men get called.... misogynistic for fucking JUST liking video games? Uh, hello?
PS. If you watch streamers and fap to them, you're a grade A faggot. There's a shit ton of free sites out there, retard.
>I make thousands of dollars a years leeching off the governement while some retards are working to pay their bill lol
That's how retarded you sound, I'm glad people like you are a minority, or we would still live in caves
This is sad as fuck.
It gives me 0 hope for the future of the earth. Man. THESE are the people who are supposed to be the next generation. All of this right there summed up in one photo.
Pay $500 for a date, and $100 for a love letter from somebody you don't know.
It's a great idea, but no one would do it.
The whole reason that they are one twitch is so they can delude themselves into thinking they are a real person playing a game and interacting with friends who enjoy watching them play video games and share their comments.
The only reason they aren't on Live Jasmine or Free Cams or whatever is so they can feel like they aren't just a dumb pair of tits talking to a bunch of idiots on the internet typing with one hand.
you don't need to draw any conclusion, all i did was proofing you are full of shit for saying all prostitutes having it "easy"
i mean unless you have any valid data proofing you are right.
>the general tone towards women in twitch at least is pretty hostile
The streamers whom don't present themselves as cam whores are treated fairly by most. For the exceptional cases of harassing individuals, they can be easily blocked by the streamer, and/or moderators.
This thread is not evidence of hostility toward "women" as a whole. It it evidence of a subset of /v/irgins, hostile at cam whores specifically.
Howard Stern was not forced off air by the FCC. Howard chose to move the satalight, so that he can get from under the thumb of restrictive FCC regulations. Twitch is not the FCC, they are a business. And as a business, they chose to not enforce against cleavage.
The FCC regulations were unreasonable. After the Janet Jackson superbowl incident, the FCC started to enforce heavier regulations on the radio industry. Where you were no longer allowed to make references to sex. In fact, you are not allowed to play FART sounds on the radio. The FCC essentially bullied certain types of programming off of the radio, by using fear tactics, and over-regulating content.
It's a perfect example of a morally puritan group, enforcing unreasonable regulations. The Howard Stern show never prevented women from being in the radio industry. In fact, Robin is one of the most high profile women in radio.
if you read my original post my point was only that these tables are retarded and more useless than simply googling relevant questions
only retards think prostitutes have it easy
>tfw the only streaming you really care about is when steam pops up in the corner saying someone wants to watch
Its free money. What are you nerds going to do about it?
Keep in mind that twitch HQ is in San Francisco.
See that model doesn't work.
The reason retards give these sluts money is that they're TEASED with the tits. It's like senran kagura. Retards think if they buy it, and continue the series eventually they'll go full nude. Which is stupid.
Plenty of (and by that I mean around 60%~) of streamers on twitch were at one time camwhores.
That stupid slut with those inflated jugs? She was a camslut. Kaceytron has camgirl vids out there, as do many many many others. It's not hard, you just have to look.
The only way to fix this would be to enforce the rules these companies set up, but they don't do it because they get money. So why the fuck bother even complaining about it? Take your business elsewhere.
>It's like senran kagura. Retards think if they buy it, and continue the series eventually they'll go full nude. Which is stupid.
But the artist has been doing VNs for a while
Here are his latest titninjas http://exhentai.org/g/797115/94b7741e4e/
sheever, at least, gets or has gotten in the past, a ton of flak for no real reason other than simply being a girl
mediocre female streamers simply attract a lot more negative attention than mediocre male streamers and i attribute part of that to the prolific camwhore phenomenon
this howard stern shit is neither here nor there and i can't come up with a logical argument against it because of how far removed it is from the topic
>sheever, at least, gets or has gotten in the past, a ton of flak for no real reason other than simply being a girl
This is what cucks actually believe. She is shit at casting and playing the game. You'd think that after 8000 hours you'd at least understand what is going on but not with her. I'd rather listen to ballsniffer Zyori than her any time
Maybe. Yes I know she was casting for free for a while but doesn't change the fact that she is shit at casting.
Same thing happened with kellymilkies when she casted SC2 but they called her out for it and she fucked off forever
i think that term doesn't have a meaning on here
so does everyone else
Yeah and the weekly(?) reddit posts and other shit to make peoples dota scheduling easier. She isn't obviously a godsend in terms of what she can offer but she at least provides what others don't people because are lazy. Kelly is also a cunt but I hate her more for what she did to moonglade than anything else.
see, it's statements like this that confirm to me that camwhores create a hard bias against girls on twitch
surely zyori "sange and yasha is an orb" ballsniffer is far worse than sheever and her rock-gargling accent
The Howard Stern show is very relevant to the topic at hand, but if you're not familiar with that whole thing, then it probably doesn't help convey the message clearly. So I'll drop it.
>sheever, at least, gets or has gotten in the past, a ton of flak
>for no real reason other than simply being a girl
Assuming this is true(which is likely isn't), how is this the fault of the girls who whore themselves out? Please explain how this phenomenon functions. How does seeing one girl with cleavage, a thing we see every day on the street, magically make men hostile toward other streamers?
BTW, look at this image the other anon posted >>291020094
And these webms >>291015412 >>291015546 >>291015575
Cleavage. Sheever may present herself as more casual, but she does enjoying wearing shirts that show cleavage. Why? Because that's just casual wear for most women. By your standards, you're saying that Sheever is over-exposed.
Who can I add to the big titty club?
>see, it's statements like this that confirm to me that camwhores create a hard bias against girls on twitch
if you can't make an opinion for yourself which most cannot and need to be told
Kaceytron looks horrible without her glasses and hair covering her fat cheeks. And she knows that. That's why 99% of her streams are with glasses and lots of hair in the front.
guy is just some dota 2 player named Fear, the girl is named Kellymilkies who was one of those gamergirl sluts who attached themselves to players. She came from SC2 to Dota 2 and we can't get rid of her. She's currently cucking a Swede.
One of the big driving forces that turned Vinesauce from a community stream into the same "One channel, One Streamer, SUB HYPE!!!11" garbage you see everywhere else on twitch.
It's fucking validating to see them failing on their own, no more so than in the case of Limes and Dire.
This thread's so full of /r9k/ retards it's unbelievable. It's literally the same shit when popular male streamers whore themselves out and act like clowns to get more viewers or subs, they just do it slightly differently. Case in point, the Kripp(le) himself who started doing "brofist" whenever he got subs in a joking manner and it evolved into a real thing just because his subcount got a huge boost thanks to acting like a clown. He even said this himself on plebbit. Actually look at ANY Hearthstone streamer, they all act like clowns, especially Amaz. He is literally a goddamn clown. And he gets 50k+ viewers on a good day.
It's the same fucking shit, yes women may have it slightly easier but the top gurl gamur streamers are whores on entirely another level compared to some random slut who just started streaming with her tits out, just like all the popular male streamers. Just because you start streaming with your tits out you won't suddenly have 1k viewers. You don't get viewers with tits only. You have to act like a whore. Be it male or female.
This thread's most pathetic comment goes to the retard who thinks women can look good just by staying skinny but men don't. Did you miss all the boyband faggots having gorillion fans?
This is so perplexing
You could have used like few bucks on any cam site and get a private show from any of the camgirls
Or better yet, fuckton of luxury hookers with that money
Yet these people give thousands of dollars because some girls shows her face while streaming
I don't really give a fuck about streaming "scene" or any of this shit nor do I get mad at girls showing their tits for more views but this is just so weird.
>you won't suddenly have 1k viewers
you are delusional. Someone streamed WoW a couple weeks ago, with some random omegle bait gif of a girl just sitting at a computer with a low cut top, and it hit 3,000 viewers before someone realized it wasn't a real person.
There's lot of male streamers who whore but no underage misogynist here watches them, so they think they don't exist.
I know a guy who got 6000 for playing without shirt and crying on stream.