Dear Japanese game artists and concept designers,
Demons don't have fucking carapaces/hard shells. Stop designing them with this shit. Unless the demon is specifically an insect/arachnid species of demon, they have no business looking like this. Quit ripping off the fucking xenomorph, that's an alien, not a fucking demon. Learn the goddamned difference.
Signed, someone sick of awful japanese demon designs
No, they have to follow the rules of nature still like any other creature. Demons would not have a carapace, that's a fucking insectoid feature, does that demon look like a damn insect to you? No. He has bat wings, not bug wings. They fucked up.
Yeah they do. There's bug demons, mammalian demons, reptilian, and other kinds. I can't stand when people fuck up demon designs, asians are especially bad for this. Not just demons, dragons too. I saw a korean game with a clearly western style dragon, that had a mane of silver FUR. Yes, fur. It wasn't an eastern dragon either, it was western, western dragons don't have fur.
>Fictional beings have to follow the rules of nature
Alright Christfag, what DO demons look like, and have you seen one before?
You'd probably have a field day with WH40k universe
That's an eastern demon, and she's properly designed like one. Female Eastern demons generally look like asian women, with a few features like wings, or horns, or maybe pointy ears.
How do you think demons evolve into what they are? They live in different parts of the demon realm, and evolve based on the conditions there. What the fuck conditions would cause a demon to have a fucking carapace despite not being an insectoid?
RULES OF NATURE
And they run when the sun comes up
with their lives on the line
Sonic's arms are not blue! NOT. BLUUUUUUUUE!
Ok explain how the fuck this shit makes sense. A reptilian creature with FUR. This is a western dragon too, not a chinese one. Chinese ones can have fur, western ones don't. They fucked this dragon's design up bad.
>Demons evolve into what they are
>They live in the different parts of the demon realm and evolve based on the conditions there
Sounds like you certainly know a lot about demons. You certain you aren't one yourself, SATAN?
>Demons don't have fucking carapaces/hard shells.
Says who? Did a Demon tell you?
>evolution in hell
This is beyond autheism
Not even remotely the same and you know it. Sonic is a fucking cartoony hedgehog and not at all meant to look realistic, so who cares what fucking color his arms are? These demons are different, Devil Kazuya is done in a realistic art style, so he should be realistically designed.
Yeah, and angels are fucking wheels within wheels and horrible abominations who have to tell people to "be not afraid" because they're literally pantshittingly monstrous, but people still paint them as pretty blonds with one pair of shiny white wings.
Stop being a whiny bitch and fuck off.
Please explain how dragons can possibly be that big and be able to fly. Please explain how dragons can breathe fire.
>Please select all hamburgers
>one of the ones i have to click is a chicken sandwich
Autistic as it is, I sort of get where he's coming from. All those real creatures have those physical traits for distinct reasons.
I suppose if you were to try to make a demon like that guy is thinking, you would take in their environment and design a body that would be well suited for it. I suppose the most popular one would be the classic depiction of a fiery hell. So I guess they'd look something like desert animals?
That's a Delmon, you baka. Delmons are part of the same genus as Demi-Daemons, Arch Demonoids, Lesser Demonkin, and more commonly Demons. They are slightly more powerful than demons but this is highly subject to debate as Demons possess Imp Summon level 2 whereas Delmons possess a Junction ability to seed powers from entities
>talking about demons like they're real.
>Ok explain how the fuck this shit makes sense
I'm not about to try and make sense of why a fictional being, i'm gonna suspend my disbelief and try to enjoy how fuck awesome it looks.
Hell I can believe there's a giant purple man in space while reading a marvel comic, I sure as hell can believe a magical being has fur.
I said demon realm, not hell. Let's call it hell though to appease you, ok? Even so, the conditions in such a place are extreme enough in many locations, that the beings living there are forced to turbo evolve to survive. Imagine boiling oceans with high pressure even at the surface and hundreds of miles deep, mountains hundreds of miles high, jungles and forests with plants that eat living beings, flaming skies, and god knows what the fuck else.
Demons are theistic in origin. They didn't fucking evolve from anything. They were warped into existence by whatever sick force that created them. That's also the only reason they sometimes look even remotely human.
>not liking japanese demons
No, I'm saying, asian dragons can have furry manes, which is fine. Western dragons don't have fur of any kind, they are purely reptilian. Giving them fur makes no damn sense. It's like putting fur on a fucking iguana or a snake.
>Demons don't have fucking carapaces/hard shells.
Yes and im sure you'd know Mr. Demon.
The person drawing the demon can make it whatever the fuck they want.
Have you ever seen a demon before? Didn't think so.
Demons originate from Egyptian myth and were not inherently evil. They were more like Elemental spirits who did not reside in Heaven. Back then, Angels and Demons were abstract entities that looked like a mish-mash of random animal parts and gold/copper objects with eyes.
But how do you feel about Japanese goblins?
The same reason this Demon is actually a Hellbound German rapist bound into the body of a Vampire who is actually the reincarnated spirit of a Satanistic Thule cultists who was a member of the Knights Templar who fell against the Rus.
In the same way all of his equipment is from a million years in the future and powered by hate pain and suffering while also being chrome and black and everything is really silly.
Capcom fucked up.
I know right, the fucking gall of some people just running around making shit up about fiction creatures. Fucking heresy.
>plebs don't enjoy Kirby Galactus
i just want to die
Turtles have a hard shell they retreat into, not an insectoid carapace. That demon looks like someone took a human man and combined it with a dragon and a fucking xenomorph. Xenomorphs are aliens btw, not demons, so it makes no sense.
I like japanese demons when they look japanese. Kitsune, oni, that stuff is fine. It's when they start mish mashing shit together that it becomes a problem.
>Devil Kazuya is done in a realistic art style, so he should be realistically designed.
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE YOU NOT JACK FUCK ABOUT TEKKEN
White dragon master race here
I saw a black dragon just hanging out next to my neighbour white dragon's roost, trying not to look suspicious. Next thing I hear, one of her eggs went missing. Race war when?
>Being this autistic about some nontangilble fictional shit
Fuck you faggot, I love japanese demon designs, especially the devil triggers from the DMC series.
I want to know how they got that voice effect for the devil trigger mode, it sounds so amazing.
So much better than that gay western demon voice which is just a high voice and low voice put together.
related, go to 0:44
>I should know, my dad works for Devil
Fuck you dip shit, paranormal/mythical concepts don't have to follow any guidelines or logic since they don't exist.
>mfw I liked it since it reminded me of pic related
Still mad they changed this in the DS remake
beezulbub is the lord of flies, and he looks like a giant fly. not a japanese man that;'s part fly and part dragon.
Because dinosaurs weren't mammals, neither are dragons. They're reptiles, reptiles have scales, not fur, and not carapaces.
>Demons don't have fucking carapaces/hard shells.
Oh, well, tell me. Did you take a picture of the last demon you passed by?
All the demons I've seen irl were shadow monsters.
>Even remotely as terrifying as an angel
Not even close. Angels were so mind boggling they made cthulhu look fucking normal.
One angel had a trillion heads each with billions of eyes, a million pairs of wings, was made of pure fire and shit out lightning and he was bigger than a galaxy.
Simultaneously he looked like a multiview orthographic projection (he was an insanely complex shape that you could see all directions of even though you were only looking at him in one direction).
And that is a fucking angel. A benevolent being that is there to help mankind. Imagine what a fucking demon would look like.
>I should know, my dad works for Devil
>Ok explain how the fuck this shit makes sense. An aquatic creature with FUR.
64-era Bowser is differently one of my favorites.
Sm4sh Bowser is also really well done
>A benevolent being that is there to help mankind.
Benevolent and helpful, maybe, but it could be argued that God's plan and the angel's course of action could be motivated by plans and rationales outside the comprehension of mortals.
It could be "for the good of God's plan" that they're burning cities and turning people to salt and whatnot, but it certainly doesn't come off as benevolent.
I'm so tired of seeing the upsidedown cross as a satanic symbol, it stand's for St. Peter's Crucifixion which was done upsidedown because he didn't want to imitate christ.
>lol Thor doesn't exist, why not make him a japanese school boy? And thunder powers? lol who cares about that lets give him the power to shit skittles. Lol ancient armor? nah we'll dress him in a clown mask and flip flops. What do you care? thor doesn't exist. lol
They have a clearly defined bonestructure for fuck sake. And that's without even mentioning the fact that their ribcage has gaps in it that pipes visibly run behind. They're biomechanical sex monsters. Not to mention the fact that they were designed by an artist who drew pretty much nothing but biomechanical fucking dicks.
Roaches have well defined faces too, doesn't mean they have skeletons.
Only thing I will say is thankfully they didn't give devil kazuya hooves. A being with a xenomorph carapace and hooves like a goat would be fucking ridiculous and impossible to even exist. It would make no sense evolutionwise.
Pentagrams are another one that gets messed up a lot. With a the point up, it represents spirit over matter, Mary's Five Joys, the five wounds of Christ, the five senses, the five virtues of knighthood, and a whole bunch of other good stuff.
It's only when the point is down that it becomes a Satanic symbol, and even then, it's "matter over spirit."
Man, there are REAL fucking animals that have hard, bony shells that aren't insects or other arthropods.
Do armadillos make your head hurt? Would a glyptotherium make you shit your pants in confusion?
Never forget that there are species that break every "rule" we have, even without weird hell magic. Reptiles that had hair, mammals that lay eggs, fish that can breathe oxygen and walk on land for periods of time.
Oh man, I haven't seen this shitpost for a long time, this is great. Now we just need the guy who bitched about rain at night.
Giger got visions of them from night terrors he had. Just like Lovecraft got night terror visions of the Old Ones. They do exist. Remember the rule of dreaming, it isn't possible for your brain to create things that don't exist, every person you saw in a dream was a recollection of a face you saw while awake and forgot.
Abraham bargained it down to ten (from 45), yeah. Also a general example of God being a dick in a variety of Biblical tales and fiction "for the greater good."
The point being is that entities who exist on grander scales than regular mortals have plans and motivations that can be unintuitive or impossible to understand, despite their overall purpose being "good of Mankind."
You sometimes see the reverse with the Devil playing the long game and building up a cult that becomes a religion to displace the "good" religion.
>Aquatic mammal with fur
>A mammal that lays eggs
>A mammal that has a poisonous spur
>Clearly made from a duck, and a beaver
WOOOOOOOOOOOW NATURE WHAT IS CONSISTENCY? HAHA BUGGED EVOLUTION MECHANICS. This reality is fucking broken, man
Yes, but since he lives on Earth, the gene would cause him to evolve features suitable for his environment here. He wouldn't need a carapace or a tail or even bat wings. If anything, those features would be a detriment to his livilihood, in that form he won't be able tow ear a pantsuit. How will he work at the G Corp and have meetings with other executives and CEOs of other companies if he can't war a suit properly? Imagine him trying to wear a suit and having a tail and wings poking out, he'll get laughed out of the boardroom and not taken seriously.
Dude it's not that strange when you think about in evolutionary terms.
There were shallow pools of water and there were probably predators that ate smaller fish. Somewhere along the line a fish had some some kind of pre lung and was able to stay out of the water for a short time. It survived and went on to reproduce.
Also the bone structure probably had to change first but hey I'm not an evolutionary biologist now.
But... you don't know how a demon even looks like, OP.
Yeah I do. If you go to Hell you can see them, it isn't that hard. You can't stay too long without protection from a higher powered demon though, as the conditions are very harsh there.
Yeah but it's too volatile, if he gets angry he's prone to shifting back. All it'll take is some asshole to piss him off during a meeting, and bam, the devil form starts showing. Now he gets laughed out of the meeting.
Physically impossible, his penis wouldn't make it past the hard carapace of the demon. Also judging by the size of said demon, the vaginal canal would be way too large, Guts wouldn't be able to even feel anything, thus his facial reaction makes no sense.
I bet you get triggered by platypi, you massive autist
Quick, someone post that gift of the platypus running towards the camera, I don't have it
how do you know what a demon looks like?
I really hope actual angels are introduced in DMC5. I would love to see how they would look like and think it would be cool if they were portrayed as a form of totalitarian organization just sending angels to hell when they challenge anything.
>rain at night
kiddy stuff compared to sun crashing into the Earth
I don't think they're ever heard of schizophrenia either.
Bugaboos be real and they don't even know it.
Or cherubim, with four heads (man, ox, lion, eagle) sticking out of two pairs of wings. No fat giggling babies with wings here.
It was a woman at first that transform.
>not reading Berserk
I know, I watched like, 2 episodes of the anime and then I was keen to read it but the translations confused me enough to just read some gaijin manga instead.
I don't know why the fuck my image isn't showing up.
Yes but that art clearly shows post transformation yet Guts is still in the throes of what seems to be pleasure. That isn't possible, as the vagina would have grown immensely, and thus Guts would no longer feel anything. The larger the creature, the larger the genitals.
>his penis wouldn't make it past the hard carapace of the demon
That penis is fleshy, the carapace is hard, the penis would break trying to get through. This is assuming the beast even has a vagina, it looks similar to a xenomorph and they don't have vaginas.
BECAUSE IT'S FUCKING MAGIC, YOU AUTIST
So why do you people bitch when Blizzard makes nonsense designs? They think it "looks cool/badass", doesn't stop people here from bitching about them being shit or stupid looking.
What next, OP? People can't be their own purse?
Here's Asmodeus, a biblical baron of hell.
What now, OP?
>He doesn't seem to handle the subject of sex well.
He got over it after having that heart to heart convo with Caska at the waterfall where he breaks down all his past sufferings and she comforts him letting him finally move on.
The demon sex thing happened way way after.
I wonder why Black Swordsman Guts doesn't handle sex well? It's not like his best friend/mentor raped his love in a demon world or something.
That would never happen...
I agree, and feel the same way about dragons. Dragon biology look so damn retarded. I can understand wyverns, they are like bats. But dragons are just retarded beyond all hell. That wouldn't work in real life. Not even in fantasy world. There has to be some fucking logic to all the muscles and bones. Dragons have none.
But only nerds care and Jackson is a movie genius! A billion dollar movie franchise is proof that his genius is the only correct view.
Goddamit i wanted to read Beserker but manga are to confusing for me, i have no idea whats going on in that pic
>all this talk of demons and angels
devilman lady was fucking awesome too
this. Its long
but holy fuck is it an amazing read.
Too bad Miura is too busy playing fucking idolmasters to finish berserk.
Dragons and wyverns are both mythical creatures. As long as the continuity of the universe of the fantasy material isn't disrupted, it's all fair game. If an author wants to call flying penises dragons, it's his choice.
>Dear Japanese game artists and concept designers
>Signed, someone sick of awful japanese demon designs
I'd thought people had dropped that passive aggressive bitch way of griping. Is this Facebook circa 2012?
Alright OP, I'm gonna lay down the law on this shit.
Demons are by definition evil spirits.
This has no distinct physical representation.
Therefore, an artist is allowed to define this physical representation however they so choose, decided by their own definition of how evil would look.
Furthermore, Tekken isn't real life, so for all we know, the cosmology of the Tekken universe could possibly make demons look like that.
Demons can look however you want them to, because they don't exist.
And I want my demons to be sexy and sexual, like these ones.