GTA5 doesn't allow mods at all.
How do you guys here at /v/ feel about this?
They run a business selling things that could easily be modded in. People who mod single player would more than likely have mods that affect multiplayer (even graphical stuff). Finally, it's in the TOS that you can't, so that's that.
This is what I don't think is fair:
>Change rules so that you will be banned if you mod
>Ban everyone who disobeyed the rules before they existed.
I understand punishing people who disobeyed the rules. But punishing people who disobeyed things that weren't even rules is absolute bullshit,
I'm glad my policy of "no preorders and wait more than a month after releases to buy" rule has paid off in spades, who'd have thought. Thanks for driving me to make it brink.
>highest selling game of all time
>made more money than any game in history
>made because not making more money selling in game currency
>banning players because they are trying to enjoy the game and not just spending money on in game currency
Rockstar was my favourite videogame company. Just about the only one I liked. Now I just hate them. Why are they doing this shit?
I only have 4 devs on my list of "trust these guys and throw them money". I recommend everyone have this sort of list. If they do shit like R* did, they lose their place on the list and you don't support them. No one ever does this though, gamers are the worst consumers.
This right here. I mean... it isn't a total waste. The graphics are much better than PS4 on my system. But... I've already played GTAV. I would've rather just done through the PS4 version when it was released and played with my PS4 friends back when they were really playing.
Because they've realized just how much shit they can get away with.
GTA V is the record holder for fastest-selling piece of media in history, before which GTA IV was the record holder. They realize that they could arguably make GTA VI Early Access with a real money cash shop in single player, then sell the multiplayer segment for an extra $40, and it would still outsell GTA V.
because you were too fucking stupid to listen to the consolefags that warned you for years what rockstar was doing
"thanks for beta testing" indeed
All the warning signs were there. Yet you all chose to ignore them. Fuck each and every one of you enabling shitheads. Your insistance of perpetuating the console vs pc war instead of using your fucking heads has let Rockstar get away with all of this.
But that's what I'm saying. I had a list like that and rockstar was on it. Now they aren't. It's a huge betrayal to their customers.
They made more money than anyone off this shit already. It's like they don't care about loyal players and they only care about the casual market who will just buy their shit play for a week and forget about it.
Most people won't ever buy shark cards if they play alot but the guy who just plays casually and just wants a tank for the day will buy a shark card, play for a day and then forget about it but that's all that's important to them now.
They used to be cool and give a shit about giving players what they want but now it's just about money. Fuck them.
How can they seriously expect loyalty from players if they betray betray us like this?
I have bought every fucking rockstar game made.
From now on I will pirate anything they make.
Rockstar has been doing this shit since the console release of GTA V.
If you're just now realizing how awful they are you should just stop playing video games.
They don't need loyalty they have billions from selling their game on hype alone
Can you get a refund since they changed the EULA?
Or do they state in it that you agree to any possible changes to the eula?
If you mod the game you can ad in game currency.
Rockstar has a store you can exchange real world currency for in game currency. The main reason they are against modding is that people are using mods to get in game currency instead of buying it.
Find the EULA, then run it through EULAlyzer.
That can pinpoint exactly where it says in the contract that Rockstar has no obligation to allow refunds and they can basically fuck your mother if you complain.
I'm not a "PC masterrace" guy. I own the game on 360.
That's why it's even bigger of a slap in the face. I showed these scumbags loyalty by not just buying this game once but twice because I wanted the full version... at least I didn't buy on a next gen console like some people.
I was happy with my decision until this latest move by rockstar. Now I am completely disappointed in them and like I said I will no longer be giving them any money.
Fucking disgusting greedy fucks. Just pirate that shit. They made the quality of their online worse so that they could get people to pay real money in order to make it better.
How do I feel? I feel like Rockstar isn't getting any money from me. I know I'm just a drop in the bucket, but if that's how they want to do it, that's their choice to make. Not like I can't spend sixty dollars on something else anyway.
GTA:O is such an un-fun abortion of a multiplayer game. I don't get how Rockstar can be so amazing with single player games and just shit the bed so hard with the multiplayer component. Even if you take the micro-transaction bullshit out it's still not fun.
Modders should get a real life, instead of ruining something some people put a lot of time and effort into. I'd be pissed if that was my project and people were not even playing it the way it was made to be.
I'm in the same boat but was disappointed with GTAIV i wanted to like V but we all know how that went. I won't buy another game from them either, it's unfortunate. In their eyes losing a few loyal fans is worth skyrocketing their profit margin.
The HL and L4D series have done no wrong so far imo but i am very wary of how valve has been behaving lately, again trying to increase a profit margin.
FPS got a fair way through creating Rust when they discovered a pretty significant flaw in their engine and announced it to their fans and said they would have to change it it over. They very easily could have sold rust as is, left they EA customer in the ground and ran to the bank, but didn't
>wait a year and a half to release the game because fuck you that's why
>release it at ten dollars overpriced because fuck you that's why
>no mods because fuck you you might invalidate our microtransactions
I nominate Rockstar as the worst developer of the decade so far.
>One of the biggest selling points of the GTA V version
First sentence and they've already failed to proofread it.
Jurnalizm in half a sentence.
How is it ruining it?
Was Skyrim ruined by mods? Even Bethesda wanted to make money off the mods for their game because they realised the mods were mostly improvements and most players would use them.
Surprisingly Notch is seeming more and more like a good guy for not being such an asshole as these other companies since he allows users to make improvements or alterations on his games at their own discretion since they already paid him once.
>PCfags waited almost 2 fucking years to be banned for muh modding
I didn't buy GTA V but fugggg that's fucked up, the funny thing is that, since is based Rockstar and GTA V muh GOTY, the support for the game will never stop.
Gaiming is just worse and worse everyday.
>pic related has mod support
>GTAV bans you for using mods
Hatred confirmed better mass murder simulator.
People are getting banned from playing the game entirely for modding single player.
Even something as basic as playing as an animal in game will get you banned from playing the game you bought entirely..
If you have no internet connection you can't play. If you have one the game connects and scans if you are using mods and you get banned even in single player.
This is no joke.
Rockstar has turned from one of the only good ones into just another shit company.
>keep one legit install for GTAO and one cracked install for mods
idorts win again
Yeah but him being banned doesnt effect him as he doesnt play multiplayer
Didn't /v/ bitch and moan for the longest time about this port? "When is GTA V going to be on the PC?!" I don't get involved in the flame wars of Console VS PC but holy shit this is funny. Careful what you wish for.
I can add to the list, it's not a list of "greatest devs of all time", it's just a list of devs I've done business with who haven't fucked me. I buy games from other devs, I'm just a lot more wary of it (i wait longer for gameplay videos/reviews, check out their generals in VG etc). I have 182 games in my library, not all are from those four and i have do have games from paradox.
No, it means if they do get "jewish" about my favourite ips (which they haven't yet), i simply no longer buy them.
Nope, just my opinion mate.
>cant own games
>hacking on everything
I don't understand why people think that just because they stand on a different patch of land they are smarter. PC users are just as retarded as everyone else, building a PC does not make you somehow more intelligent. The reason why AAA companys avoid PC is pirating which is just being a nigger.
From what I've seen its only from multiplayer, there was also mention of a "Hacker lobby" where you are put into a lobby with only other hackers
Most bans for first offenses seem to be just two weeks, and you keep the items you hacked in (but not the money)
I bought a physical copy of this piece of shit because I had a shit connection and figured I'd be nice and support them for once.
I am 'so' pissed at this right now. I can't even refund or trade this piece of shit.
Laugh all you like, but as a person who bought the game purely for the mods, I'm absolutely livid right now.
Rockstar is now on my bad list with Capcom and a few others. I will give them as little money as possible for the future regardless of the hype.
There's a bunch of people who don't care about modding on PC. Maybe they like gaming on a single device, maybe they like playing in windowed mode while doing other shit, maybe they like boosting up the resolution, maybe they enjoy ridiculous supersampling. Mods aren't the only reason people play on PC.
>never released a broken game without the publisher forcing them to
>always upped their contemporaries when signed to do a tacked on sequel
>single handedly revived crpg genre with one of the most well balanced and written games of all time
>released free enhanced editions of both of their games
>slav magic graphics
>has literally done nothing wrong with the Witcher 3
>inb4 delay is used as a mark against them
>owns and operates the largest push for drm free gaming in history
Obsidian has nothing as bad as RO2 on launch or the shit load of dlcs kf2 has and cdpr is literally doing everything right that valve is failing to do, plus their actually making fucking games still
>How and why can they ban single player
you have to authenticate the game online, so they can get you through that, and as for why it's mostly "because they can"
>how does modding in single player affect Rockstar or other players
They figure it might carry over or something, and then there'd be people at level 1 with an undecillion dollars cocking up the economy by not buying their Shark Cards.
I was gonna curate the title, but banning for a fov mod that I would have installed if I knew about it before all this shit.
Stop bringing console war nonsense into this.
The point is Rockstar has gone full retard and we shouldn't put up with that shit.
It's not platform vs platform.
It's users vs shit developers vs good developers.
Take Devolver for instance.
>hotline miami 2 gets banned from sale in australia
>hi i'm a fan I would like to play your game is there any way I can buy it off you regardless of restrictions
>hi anon, don't worry about it just pirate it and play it, don't even worry about paying us, we're just happy you enjoy it.
>thanks devolver, take my ten dollars anyway, you guys are champs.
It's basically a botch-job pants on head retarded attempt to stop hackers done in a blanket, lazy as shit way that, as usual, will fail to stop hackers but will swiftly punish people trying to have fun.
No fucking shit? I just said PC is the same as everything else the cock munch i replied to was saying PC is beter. I read up until i realized you had no reading comprehension.
Why ban you? You payed money for this game under the impression that you could mod it, and it certainly seemed that way. So why a ban after such a sudden change of heart? It seems like a lot of people who might have wanted to avoid the ban might not have gotten wind in time to remove the mods, and therefor don't deserve the ban.
Also if they are worried about mods carrying over, then JUST ban them from multiplayer so that that the person who still payed money for the game and fucking supported them can still play the damn thing.
I can't speak for RO2. However TWI supported and produced content for KF1 for almost 10 years. A majority of their DLC is cosmetic snowflake shit because game devs need to eat. KF2 has a deluxe edition which again is snowflake shit and has zero effect on gameplay. Nearly all games have "special" purchase editions and it was still cheaper then most games are on release. If this sort of DLC means a 17 years will support TWO for me paying $30 for a game that get support for another ten years, i'm down. I can't really have this argument because I only know 2 games from OE but they seem decent enough.
I am that guy. And it is better but only if you have a PC more powerful than a PS4 or XBONE.
You are still promoting console wars bullshit.
The PC version is better because you can get better graphics out of it and it has a few minor features the console version doesn't have. That doesn't mean you will ultimately get more enjoyment out of the game.
This is one instance when consoles have every right to spam le yellow face because when pc finally gets the game a year and a half later, they're met with the surprise that they're not allowed to do anything fun with it.
No, the bottom line is i have provided reasons for supporting every single one of those devs and your argument equates to "yeah but stop liking what i don't like, you're uninformed". Grow up.
Oh no! Negative Reviews!
That will shirley impact sales of the game in some fashion even though the Wii U should be outselling the PS4 if you go by Metacritic.
>255 friends and foes the chance of playing together in a world shaped by your own hands
Who cares if you get banned
Only if you can wait 3 more years
Waited over a fucking year for this. Sure, muh graphics and all that. Looks great. Plays great. Glad for a decent port.
Thanks a whole lot Rockstar for also fucking the only reason I was sticking around for the better version.
Protip for the future: Graphics aren't the ONLY reason PC version is better. They're like 50%. You've now eliminated half the reason I cared to begin with.
The fact that you led me along this way for this long shows you're a bunch of cunts, frankly. I'll think twice about ever purchasing your products in the future. For fuck's sake, I held out for this. Didn't buy any of that console shit because I thought I knew what was coming.
Apparently it was textbook for the future of PC gaming.
IV didn't get mods for a while due to the newness of RAGE engine/no support from R*/holy complete shit optimization Batman.
Also, the online for it had no microtransactions, so there was nothing to really care about for mods.
This is word for word the writing in the GTA IV Eula as well. Most games have this sort of clause for legal reasons. Fuck your sensationalism. They literally can't stop modders if they wanted to.
have you not been paying attention to GTA V threads all these years? Rockstar has been cracking down since GTA online's inception by taking away exploits, tinkering payouts and taking away everybody's hacked billions. mods weren't really an issue on consoles so it didn't really come up but based upon their past actions towards the game and their attempt to control everybody's experience I'm not the least bit surprised.
the impression that you could mod it was completely assumed by fans, I do not believe Rockstar ever let on that it would be moddable. look at it from the developers perspective, sure you might think that modding a game extends it's lifespan and keeps players playing but how does that benefit Rockstar? they already have your money and would rather sell you a sequel. if you were a developer and worked hard on something I doubt you'd be okay with someone coming along and scribbling over your work, even if, no especially if they do it better than you. they put effort into an experience they create so why would they give two shits if you want to change it into something else. mods were tolerated I guess but I'm not at all shocked if developers aren't big fans of them. I"m not defending this stance of theirs, mainly just trying to view this from their perspective as that's the best way to make sense of things.
What a fucking couple weeks this has been for PC gaming, not only is MKX for PC STILL FUCKING BROKEN but it's also getting Jason late and now GTA V, a game i spent money to upgrade my graphics card to play it, doesn't allow mods.
God, i fucking just want to throw this shit out and go live in a cabin or something. This is nonsense.
I play a lot of online. 100k isn't massive but it's still a sizable amount. 100k is one of the lower heist amounts, you can get ~250k from the final heist and can just play it over and over again. ~6 hours of grinding can get you any super car and most helicopters/the armored truck
You mean that thing that won't exist for at least another 10 years.
I'd rather expansions to the fucking single player than focusing on online bullshit and the only we ever had on single player expansion was modders but now that will get your game locked and unplayable so thanks a lot online for those precious shark cards that very few faggots will ever buy for ruining fucking everything about this game.
So wait a second.
I've never played online in GTA. Not for one single fucking second.
I use mods because they're fun as hell, and interesting. I was looking forward to crazy shit like those iron man mods, and the flying UFOs and Jetpacks and shit like that which we never got from their stupid mystery because THEY STILL HAVEN'T ADDED MORE SINGLE PLAYER AFTER 18 FUCKING MONTHS...
And you're telling me...
That if I use ANY of these mods and they detect it, that I won't just be banned from multiplayer/online/updates/whatever, I'll be banned from fucking using my game at all!?
The game I paid fucking money for? They'll just steal that money right back!?
Because if that's true, that's absolute horse-shit.
>notch let people mod his game
You have no idea what youre talking about.
Notch never wanted mods and actually went as far as to take popular mods and force them into his game (enchantments, hunger, villages ect) leaving modders absolutely nothing in terms of modding.
It was only until AFTER notch left to go jerk it in his mansion that jeb and the developers added modding capabilities.
Yes and it will only happen more and more in the future judging by the rhetoric they have expressed so far. (They refuse to give any solid information on single player modding other than all modding will result in total ban).
>That if I use ANY of these mods and they detect it, that I won't just be banned from multiplayer/online/updates/whatever, I'll be banned from fucking using my game at all!?
That's exactly right. Your only hope is that R* cops enough shit that they change the EULA which is very unlikely.
>The game I paid fucking money for? They'll just steal that money right back!?
Nah you keep the game files, you just can ever access them in a useful way.
>Not knowing what you are talking about
It doesn't have DRM though
If you download a game online you keep it if you go offline/run out of gold
They just locked multiplayer behind a paywall
>months and months of shitposting over best version of GTA V getting closer and closer
>apart from better graphics, gives nothing that won't get you banned
You only had to listen! You could've played mostly the same thing
apart from fps modetwo years ago on your PS3 and 360!
been playing since release on modded/tagged consoles. ps3/360.
been playing PC version since released, modded.
handed out (in game) billions and made quite a few real money dollars doing it.
never banned once.
if you're a retard about "hacking" the game, you fucking deserve it.
I am still selling accounts made on xbox/ps3. 10 million R* bucks included as well as unlocks and other junk.
they aren't allowing mods in singleplayer, which is the problem. not allowing mods in multiplayer is one thing, not giving us dedicated servers to mod online with is a dick move, but banning players for modding the fucking SINGLEPLAYER is absolutely inexcusable.
Tighter and more controlled restrictions on videogames on every platform in the future.
Allowing all videogame companies to ban you from using products you have paid for in the future at their own discretion.
>ban you from using products you have paid for
I still never saw this as logical. They have rules. You break it, you bought it.
It's like going to a football game and causing a disturbance in the seats. Yeah, you paid for the ticket, but that doesn't mean you can do whatever the fuck you want. You're not above the rules just because you paid for something.
Yes but the disruption at the football game is ruining other people's enjoyment.
That's why it only make sense to restrict online play.
By punishing people for altering single player is more like punishing people for altering a tshirt they bought for themselves.
except this isnt the football game its you in your self contained room watching the game, who cares if you want to turn the saturation up on the game? if your the only one watching the game whats wrong with tailoring it to your preference?
>tfw Rockstar is banning user mods because
they plan on selling mods for an additional fee in the future
>mfw Rockstar promised a AAA technological experience and delivered shit
>mfw Rockstar is trying to hide this by taking away your games for modding
>mfw Rockstar couldnt fool mustard fags and they immediately recognized the game sucks
>mfw Rockstar took you goons for a ride
>mfw pirates win yet again by frankensteining the files so they can actually make it good
>Black Mesa was shit
>Doom WADs were shit
>DotA All Stars was shit
>Project Reality was shit
>Half Life Counter Strike was shit
I don't even play Skyrim, but you've got some pretty wrong opinions, bub.
>change EULA after customers have already bought the product
>customers can't do shit about it because if they don't agree they can't access their game they paid for
Future of video games, ladies and gentlemen.
>agree to a EULA that bans me for modding multiplayer
>they now ask me to agree to a new EULA that bans me from singleplayer too
>there are no refunds, you just dont get to play the game
This is the most Jewish company in video games.
As long as they themselves didn't explicitly use mods as a way to advertise the game, and as long as the rule book states that it's subject to change, how else could they be liable?
Because in first-world countries (i.e.: not Burgerstan) the EULA means jack shit and companies will get their asshole reamed for trying to jew people this hard.
For a company that makes its living off mocking America, they sure are the biggest lying scumbag faggots.
I lose faith in you more every year, Rockstar
Why are you such assholes to modders? Or people that want to customize the game to suit themselves?
Will my sp get banned for Using FiveM?
Because I already launched it up :E
Also HOLY SHIT how do you even get to be this retarded, I know youtube commentators are braindead but GOD DAMN.
I really wonder what took Rockstar so long to do this. In the weeks/months preceding GTA V's PC release they were asked what their stance on modding was and gave no answer, I mean did they really think that nobody would mod it? Shit.
I bought it on green man gaming, any way to get a refund? I don't want it anymore. It's the exact same thing as my PS3 copy. I bought it only for the hope of fun mods and that hope is dead now.
>PCucks wait 2 years for a played to death game
>Claim it'll be way more amazing with mods
>"Thanks for beta testing!"
>Can't even mod the game without getting banned
>All they have to show for 2 years is slightly better graphics if your PC can run it
>my motherfucking face when
This is fucking hilarious.
>inb4 I pirated it
You're the cancer as to why people don't want to make PC ports the best they can be, and you know it
>There are people who support paid mods
>go to reviews on GTA V
>there are people who support banning modders because some of them hack
Why do these people treat these gigantic corporations like they're their buddies, and feel the need to protect them zealously? Why do they WANT to spend more money?
Gamers truly are terrible consumers, I can't even fathom anything similar to this shit happening in anything outside of the gaming industry.
Good, they have every right to do that.
If I made videogames I would fucking mate mods too.
It would really grind my gears if I dumped time and energy into making something to deliver a specific experince than some cunt just walks by and fucking changes it to do something else.
Mods are for shit games like Skyrim.
If they announced that mods are unsupported (and bannable) right at the release, they'd lose a metric fuckton of sales.
It's pretty obvious what R* did here. They waited until they got a majority of the sales down, and THEN enacted on this bullshit because they knew there was little chance of people getting a refund.
pc fats need to get a lawsuit going
>suing a company with more money than most Hollywood studios
>Why do these people treat these gigantic corporations like they're their buddies
This has been going on for decades. People like the idea of sides/teams. They live off of it. It's why you see sports an endless industry. Same with electronics and endless tech examples such as: Android/IOS, Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo, NBC/CBS/ABC, CapeshitA/CapeshitB, etc.
It's the basic way a human brain works. You either understand it, accept it, and learn to at least try to understand it and curb it or just go with it and pretend there's some other path out there.
There's already mods that fix the handling, as well as fairly in-depth RP mods.
Not too bad for a recently-released game with no mod tools and a developer actively against modding.
San andreas have some of the best mod it ever been created.
They made a fucking MP-mod for it.
I love GTA modding community. Its sad that rockstar have to put their long nose into it.
There is a time and a place for anime girl reaction images but I ask for a proper response at this time, please. I searched around on Google and found numerous reports of being banned from online, but haven't seen anything reporting being banned from singleplayer. Here however, people are saying that you get banned from that too. I'm not sure if it's true or /v/ isn't happy with what should already be enough rage fuel and is lying so people will rage even more.
I'll take mods over the casual online mode any day. I'll wait until someone makes a third party multiplayer client for it so we can have complex servers with their own scripts.
>Everything going to online shit
Fuck this. I want my honest solo single player shit back thanks. I'm a console pleb and was genuinely excited to see what you PC guys could do to this game since, imo, GTAV was a letdown for me.
Not if youre a lone wolf fag with no friends like me.
I have to grind liquor stores, sell random cars (once every 45 minutes or whatever it is), and pray I can do some deathmatches where I suck at aiming and get leaderboard fags screaming at me about my shit K/D / L/W ratios, even though I dont give a fuck about that and just try to have fun. And god forbid I actually say that, then I get the "U MAD BRO, OH HE MAD DOG, GIT GUD" bullshit.
Id be too scared to try any heists with randoms because I would be the guy who gets killed or misses a headshot and fucks it for everyone.
I wonder the reason behind this? Rockstar knew most PC buyers had played the console version.
Did they do it because they know it would piss off a majority while still getting money from that majority?
Is it because mods don't make them money? Is it because they want to put Liberty City/San Fierro/Las Venturas in first?
Do the shit anyway. They get mad at you? Tell them to go fuck their nigger mother's rancid fetid cunt.
"Mad that you aren't on my dick bitch boy. Let me pulverize dat fuck boi ass."
Depends. Considering you have to sign in to Rockstar Social Club each time the game launches they can bar you from the game altogether if they really wanted to. The game key is tied to your account and they can just ban your account.
Because, like all major companies, they're going to shit. R* is a one trick pony anyway.
Fuck a goddamn GTA game, where's me next Red Dead at? or Max Payne? or fuck try something different. Make a open world medieval shit ala Dragon's Dogma etc.
GTA is old shit.
It still does, I'm playing SA-MP right now. I'm even making my own mods for it for shits and giggles. A 10 year old game is still making dosh because of
freemods. Suck my dick Rockstar, your only half decent game since Bully was RDR.
It's so sad, everyday feelin' that I'll have to stop playing games 'cause of this fucked industry not gettin' any better.
When FF XV bombs it'll be the last nail in the coffin. Then we're stuck with mediocre jew sjw western shit.
Yeah, ive gone into salty dont give a fuck mode, but it still doesn t faze the little girls driving around in their big armoured cars and armoured karumas, repeatedly killing the same person 15 times in a row while screaming GIT GUD.
Sure, easy to say that when you are in a vehicle that can take three-five direct hits with a rocket launcher and still hit top speed, or has a mounted gun on it that shreds you from a block away even with full armour on.
Now any time I see a Karuma parked, I pic related.
And before anyone says it, yeah, I mad.
get to work
Does everyone hate armored Karumas only? Or just any Karumas? With all the publicity I was thinking of modifying one just to try it out but I don't want to get killed on site every time :(
Eh, I like it when I find other players who are civil, or funny, or know at least when to give a nigga some breathing room. Nothing worse than you get get killed, respawn, try to get back to your car and are killed 12 more times by the same faggot in the karuma, then when you do get back to your car, it blows up when you get in it because they sticky bombed it and were camping down at the end of the street watching you the whole time.
This is wouldn't happen if your ideas of modding were shooting whales with money inside them out of a flare gun while running around as a transgender anime character with a giant cock flopping around. Fucking dumbasses. I bought it for PC and the game is perfectly fine. Its normie fags like you who make mods blow up and become a red flag. Now everyone wants to either charge for mods or ban them altogether. GOOD ONE CUCKS. PC COMMUNITY DOES IT AGAIN.
Dont even bother man. My shit is to target and destroy/at LEAST fuck up any Karuma I see now. Yes, I am a bitter old fuck. Give it a few months and maybe ill not give a fuck anymore, but pretty much every karuma fag I have met online has been an insufferable cunt about their dick enhancers. Kind of like how people are about their hybrids/electric cars IRL.
>Its normie fags like you who make mods
I wish FFXV would bomb, but they are trying to make it the new FFVII. I get the same alarm bells I did watching trailers for XIII. The issue being that they are shoving a bunch of feather haired fuckboys down my throat with a stupid storyline.
Hope it bombs, hard.
Why not just have a process where mods are vetted to make sure that they work ok with multiplayer and don't have exploits? And those get a gold star and you can dl them and everything's hunky-dory?
>shooting whales with money inside them out of a flare gun while running around as a transgender anime character with a giant cock flopping around
How is any of that ban-worthy?
Sounds like a fun fucking time to me. The one group of civil hackers I met were like that. They were spawning in weed, dildos, ships and throwing money at everyone and turning their cars chrome for them. And one of them was a monkey man.
Got my hotknife because of those guys.
Wherever you are, monkeyman with a gun, be safe and dont get banned.
Fuck I love sticky bombs.
I don't often grief, but when I do it almost always involves sticky bombs in any game that features them.
Another fun one I did in GTAV:O was keeping my car accessible by everybody, when somebody inevitably takes it, you just wait for the best moment then switch the rights on the phone, kicking them out of the car in some hilarious situations.
I once had somebody attempting to kill me repeatedly, I did the car trick and he ran straight to the vehicle nearest to him.
It had a sticky bomb on it
>The only winning move is to not play.
Well yeah, I'll agree with you on that. But you'll bruise his ego harder and kill his temporary fun by going into passive, and it's not like you have to listen to anything he says either. Just go passive and fuck off, go do something else.
But if I don't think it'll lead to any fun for me I'll just kick you out long before you make it that far just to spite you and make you likely to destroy it in rage so my insurance will cover the replacement
I'm petty like that
Point is, I dont MIND random deaths by other players, its part of the fun I WANTED with this game, but when it turns into 63 deaths in a row by the same little shit in his dick enhancer, and me having to hit find new session and wait five minutes for shit to load only to find out it stuck me right back in the same server, it gets ridiculous.
Passive isnt fun.
If I wanted that I would just start a private session and play by myself, which means fuck this, why even bother, why not just find a way to mod my character into the single player game and.....oh yeah. Might get a ban for that now!
>use cracked executable to launch game
>mod the shit out of it
Why is everyone claiming modding is dead? Just never play fucking multiplayer and never make it connect to the internet.
That's how I play IV, even though I actually bought it like I will V.
so what are you supposed to do besides the heists which only came recently and seems to be a limited amount of?
get in and out of cars and shoot other players when you see them?
i never got the appeal. there is no objective or task or anything to do
you could race i guess but then you're better off just playing a racing game
>even though I actually bought it like I will V.
If you're supposed to do that shit in the first place according to your post, why buy the game and support the company with shitty practices?
You're saying "What's the problem they don't allow you to mod? Just don't play the multiplayer and crack the game! But don't forget to pay for the multiplayer you'll never use anyway and give Rockstar your money!"
I don't get it.
Yeah. It's shit. I bought the PS3 version and the online got boring in like, 2 days or less.
It's core experience is buying cool shit with microtransactions so you can flaunt said shit on the server.
I like driving around and flying in Online, apart from Heists that's really all I do. I did so many missions in the first week that I'm stacked with cash with very little to really spend it on.
I mean the lighting in this game is gorgeous, and the weather is pretty good too. I wish they didn't remove the wildlife from Online.
To be fair, the online mode was full with hackers and cheaters. They had to do something about it.
But of course, nobody who complains was cheating, right? They are ALL innocent, and used NOTHING else than the FOV mod, right?
Get fucked, cheaters.
welcome to gta
big cool sandbox with absolutely nothing to do in it other than the missions
props to rockstar for finally making a nonshit story campaign in 5 but there is still fuck all to do. i mean it comes with genre i guess but really, how do people spend so much time just driving, shooting cops/other players, driving, and shooting some more?
GTAV has mod support though, not mod tools, but people were making mods for the game. It's just Rockstar is banning people that take advantage of it I guess because like every one fucking else they have their multiplayer locked into the single player so they just assume you're going to cheat if you modify the single player.
This is such a slap in the face
I love the game but they are trying so damn hard to be greedy
Even worse is a few of my friends support this and have bought it twice, and spent over 50$ buying money for online
this isnt like some fps where ranks can be lost and its always competitive.
most of gta online is just free roam. heists and other things are often cooperative. so who cares if they cheat to cooperatively complete heists or something? rockstar themselves put cheats into the single player in every installment
sure in freeroam or in races its bad if someone cheats but its not that big of a deal
I haven't even updated to the latest version but why doesn't Rockstar just raise the first person fov to a tolerable level? It shouldn't be that hard and it would put everyone on level playing field. The only mods I'd probably ever want to use are the fov mod (if Rockstar doesn't fix the fov themselves at some point) and a trainer to screw around in single player. I have no desire to play the online mode. If being banned just made it so you couldn't play multiplayer I'd be perfectly fine with that but apparently it kicks you off singleplayer too.
The funny thing is that the people who hacked to get millions and millions of dollars get to keep the money, they just got a two week ban. Cuckstar's handling of these situations is hilariously bad.
>Where did you hear this?
I'd like some confirmation either way though. If a ban just affects single player I don't really give a shit, I'll be free to mod as much as I want.
>I don't get it.
I have shit internet. I prefer to just buy the first 60GB of data on discs rather than download it.
Don't get me wrong. I'm still waiting for a price drop or sale or something because I'm sure as fuck not buying it for $60.
I'd say under $30 is a fair price for singleplayer.
Maybe I'm missing out on fun mods, but I've seen many other online games ruined by hackers. It's annoying as hell if you just want to play the game like it's supposed to be played but it's filled with retards who have infinite money, are invulnerable, use speedhacks and whatnot.
Banning for using mods in singleplayer is obviously not okay at all, and I agree with the common opinion on this. Changed my steam review to negative due to that, everybody should. But if it helps to get rid of cheaters in mp, which it seemingly did, its chosing the lesser evil kind of thing.
FUCK YOU GOOGLE BURGERS ARE NOT SANDWICHES
I can understand banning mods in Online because obviously it's going to have some issues and with the retarded microtransactions there isn't a chance in hell we'll ever see mods.
But really, you could bypass this by just having official and non official servers.
However, destroying the single player experience as well is unacceptable.
>Super kike brothers
>Fuck it, everything about Nintendo in general
Weeabos will lap up anything. Literally the easiest fuckers to rip off. I get a good laugh at you retards at comic-con every year showing up in your shitty Attack on Titan cosplay and buying a bunch of overpriced 'statues' made in a chinese sweatshop for 20 cents.
Jap games are way too lazy and over-priced for you to be talking shit like Western developers are somehow the problem in the industry by themselves.
>Everything by From-Software in a nutshell.
I like online. It's not too difficult to avoid faggots, especially if your house is outside los santos. I basically stay in free roam long enough to jack an expensive car, sell it, buy snacks, buy armor, and find a quick job.
That said, I have a few gripes and wishes.
Races are apparently impossible to win, since everybody already has their upgrades and I just started online like a month ago, so that's gay. No ecu and transmission upgrades for me. I stick with a lvl 2 armored sultan. I will never get the kurama, as I am straight.
It IS kind of weird hearing all those open mics though. Lots of faggots. It's gotten to the point I play with the game muted and just listen to an audiobook.
I hope to god the casino opens soon. I will crush these faggots in hold'em.
Poor decisions made on both sides.
If the GTA community wasn't filled with a bunch of ignorant dumb fucks who used trainers and CE to get unlimited money and unlock everything, the potential of mods being there could have very well been there.
Rockstar is dumb for taking measures like this and the community ruined it for everyone. GG.
>People get banned from trying to use mods
>People who were going to buy the game just pirate it
>Official multiplayer servers die as everyone gets banned or leaves because they can play on private servers without limits
If private servers happen in the near future Rockstar just cut their own throat. Why the hell would anyone even play the official servers when you run the risk of being banned outright from both online and offline for even logging on when theirs a safe free alternative that will likely have more variety than the real thing eventually?
Hell why would you even buy the game at all knowing your just going to play on private servers?
What will piss me off now is if Rockstar 6 months from now plays the victim when their game gets pirated out the ass. Trying to sell a value change to PC users was absolutely retarded, trying to punish them for it was even more so.
I feel you.
It's why I can't feel my life is anything but meaningless. Chasing money to pay the bills and be able to live while being robbed by corrupt authorities and being called *insert name that represents a point of view you disagree with* from almost all political sides for not being able to feel any joy in this tiresome routine. It sucks.
I think rockstar is shooting itself in the foot here, All it takes is online to get boring and then mods start coming out trying to make it fun again. If Mods themselves area bannable offense then all of a sudden, you have this large demand for pirating the game and mods on said pirated copies, not so much legitimate copies
>>Makes pirated copies more valuable than a paid copy.
What if Rockstar and Valve are working together to start their pay for mods service on GTA V now?
Valve already said the model failed on Skyrim because it already a nearly 4 year old modding community.
Now the biggest game in history(don't mind Tretis and Wii Sports) just got released on steam. This brand new slate is the perfect platform for Valve. Rockstar is banning mods, even in single player, so that you can only use payed mods!
It's not like they have much of a choice, they made a mistake by putting micro transactions in GTAO. They're trying to protect that as much as they can to keep a constant stream of cash directly into their wallets, but it's going to backfire on them very hard. They deserve all of the backlash that this will cause and then some.
>It's going to backfire on them very hard
>They have made over a billion dollars on this alone
I don't think you understand how things work.
You also seem to have a lot of faith in consumers not liking getting fucked over, let alone sticking to principals.
The thing is other people give a good example with the shark cards. Rockstar are counting on the online lasting a while so they keep getting money. If the online is dead in a few months and people find a way to host their own servers (people are talking about this like it already happened, though I'm not sure) then that isn't good for them even if they already do have a shitload of money from the game.
Your second point is more believable.
>people are talking about this like it already happened, though I'm not sure
Last time I checked some sites, they were announcing it as work in progress, without ETA. Guess fanbois jumped to the conclusion it'll be done in a few days.
Rockstar has made massive amounts of bank on GTAO already anon, that's what I'm getting at.
I'm pretty sure they've made back their costs and made a lot of profit with the business decisions they've made.
To say the backlash regarding banning mods will cause is to ignore the masses that simply do not care about it.
And unlike say.. Steam Workshop and monetizing mods Rockstar simply doesn't have to give a shit about the PC market.
The backlash to not allowing mods is also much much much smaller than what happened with monetizing mods.
For anyone smart enough, for future Rockstar games, they will turn to piracy over purchasing. And yes, you are probably correct; with how rampant consumerism is these days, I really don't how this will turn out.
A decade ago no one would have stood for bullshit like this, I don't want to let go of the faith that people will refuse to just roll over and accept it.
>sure you might think that modding a game extends it's lifespan and keeps players playing but how does that benefit Rockstar?
by players seeing them as a friendly dev that makes good games and helps the game's community
what happened here is basically them saying "fuck you we just want your money"
not him but I've got a backlog of 100+ games and I've never bought one on release
I think borderlands 2 was the closest to release I ever bought something and that was after a few months
> with how rampant consumerism is these days, I really don't how this will turn out.
We've already seen it countless times with boycott attempts and people swearing off a franchise forever.
They stick with it, rationalize what happened and continue to actively support the game.
GTA is simply too big for people to leave it alone, and the PC market for it is really tiny anyways so any sort of backlash from the
really minorpart of the community will be ignored because all they care about is the masses.
>I don't want to let go of the faith that people will refuse to just roll over and accept it.
I don't know how you could have faith in consumers considering quite literally everything else they have accepted no matter how hostile to the consumer it is.
Play some games you haven't finished nigga.
But when waiting on getting a game or not you have options.
You don't have to give in immediately because you can bust out an game you haven't touched yet.
I never really liked the GTA series in the first place, and I was even considering buying this game in a few months
now I can afford more HDD's for my server since I don't need to buy GTA anymore
I pre ordered brink so i learnt my lesson early. Never pre order and never buy before at lease 2 weeks to a month after release. Everyone should follow those rules, everyone would save money of shit games and devs would stop relying on hype to make sales and would revert to using quality to make sales.
Plus the longer you wait, the cheaper a game gets, win win.
I used a trainer to play as a humpback whale one time offline while listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03qBqP2I4p8 and just being generally comfy as fuck.
Apparently that was ban worthy.
That's a retarded argument. Playing online where you can work towards better apartments, flasher cars, more money and whatever else in in GTAV is part of the appeal. Everyone starts from scratch and works up. Having an open sandbox where people could just aimbot everything, spawn inifinite cash and kill everyone else easily would suck all the fun out of the game and no one would bother playing.
Their bans are really inconsistent.
>Changed my model to a homeless guy's and wandered around while online
>Spawned some cars for myself to try out in singleplayer, also changed my player model to Brad's to record some stuff with the Rockstar Director
>Received no ban
>Is it because they want to put Liberty City/San Fierro/Las Venturas in first?
That will never fucking happen.
Liberty City from IV might have ended up there if modders were allowed to get onto it and still may.. but now it will only be those who pirate it who can enjoy it.
They really shit in the bed on this one.
>NEVER EVER LOL
Custom server/server browser is already out in alpha. It didn't take long at all after release. Not much longer and we'll have more custom dedicated servers with full mod support.
So yeah, not a big deal at all. R* is just digging their own grave for PC
>Custom server/server browser is already out in alpha. It didn't take long at all after release. Not much longer and we'll have more custom dedicated servers with full mod support.
Thank you R* for being a bunch of cunts.
>Trying to sell a value change to PC users was absolutely retarded
kek so much this. I just hacked my money instead of HURR SHERK CARD. Banned me for two weeks and I come back to my 40m worth of bought cars/property/planes. When the fun runs out with GTAO I'll just move to private servers that will be out soon. So yeah, win/win.
>just pirate my game pls
ok if you insist
YOU ONLY GET BANNED FOR USING MODS ONLINE
OFFLINE MODE IS STILL MOD-ABLE
PLEASE READ: >>293554513
Is the account transfer from PS3 to PC still one way and irreversible?
>no being able to beat your friends to death with a dildo
>no ability to get muscular/skinny/fat
>no online taxi fare missions, police/vigilante missions, or paramedic missions
>no cops 'n crooks
>fistfighting is bullshit compared to IV, can't even box a nigga
>multiple skateparks on the map, but no skateboards, rollerblades, or even punk ass lil bitch nigga fold out razr scooters
>all haircuts except 2 are fuccboi honkey doos, no real nigga fades
>limited wardrobe leave my clothes looking whack as fuck
Ah, nigga, don't hate me cause I want a better game, nigga. Maybe if you got rid of all these yee-yee ass restrictions you got, you'd get some bitches on your dick. Or, better yet, maybe Capcom will call your dog-ass if they ever stop fuckin with that Street Fighter or Resident Evil they fuckin with. Nigguuuuuuhhhhh.
All simple things that will soon be added with simple mods
Also the new GTA multiplayer is almost out so then we dont ever have to worry about R* again
Eat shit and die you bunch of trolls
>was planning on installing the simple trainer to fuck around after i finished the main story.
i escaped from a ban right now too.
>buying games after paid mods became a thing
Never again. Glad I pirated this garbage, but this is just the beginning.
For the coming summer sale should I go with dirt cheap GTA4 or for some 25% off GTA5?
Never tried GTA4 but there still seems to be players.
>Used cheat engine to give myself a max level character with all upgrades, penthouse, Jets, Cars, fucking everything
>It's still there after ban.
I waited because I hate playing on consoles and wanted a hell of a lot more than 30fps. Enjoyed playing the game at a stable 100 on 144hz monitor.
It wasn't like I was 'waiting' either, I had actually completely forgotten it was even released, did other shit with my life, then played the game when it was released.
I don't see what the fuss is all about. Just make a copy of your GTAV installation, crack it, block it in your firewall to make sure it won't connect with Rockstar's servers and you're done.
As usual, cheaters will spread lies to convince normalfags that they didn' tonuffin. They are the same tier as niggers who raid shops then claim they are innocent because reasons.
Fuck cheaters, fuck niggers.