I like Sans more thematically even if half the fight is just cheap shots. It makes sense that he'd use every dirty trick in the book to beat you.
You could always just ignore the thread.
Do you also yell at people on the street who talk about things you don't care about?
So this... is the power... of anime....
>18 attempts to kill Undyne the Undying
Not going to lie, I hated the bitch fighting her, but looking back that fight was really fucking cool. Undyne is really fucking cool. It's a shame about the whole gay thing, I'd totally pound that toned, tomboyish fish ass.
Furry bait is gonna be big business, you saw how much a furfag paid to put his fursona in this game
She's a real fun fight, took me an hour and a half to beat her after I started abusing equipment and ballet shoes.
She's a great fight.
Did and almost complete genocide run, choosing to stop and reset the moment Flowey said he changed his mind.
>tfw you get it gifted to you
git gud bud
Here's a real question
TBFP are delaying undertale episodes, when its the only game they are playing people care about besides mgsv.
why do they keep posting that dangdeeleydooda game or that scary whatever?
Nobody cares about that shit.
Jesus fucking christ. I looked it up and it actually looks and acts like an actual fursona. I'm glad I never ran into him in my run of the game, might have actually ruined it for me.
>Undyne the Undying's music is a song straight out of Touhou
Those ZUNpets, man. Great fight too.
tfw you pirate it and quit out before ven getting out of the ruins because the random encounter rate is atrocious and you anted to do the peaceful run but its so fucking boring that you literally give up.
i can pull the .exe out of my recycle bin and send it to ya, if ya want
No, I mean "killing it doesn't fuck up your pacifist run". No one's posted a screenshot of sans saying "you didn't kill anyone important". It'd be funny as fuck because I hate that fucking tub of lard furfaggot, not it's just simply not true.
So Sorry aka Samael Butterdragon. He's mostly known for his fatfur and vore art, but he's also a huge autistic libtard if his tumblr is anything to go by.
Basically he loved Undertale so much he paid Toby a thousand bucks to self insert himself into the game. Luckily, Toby made him extremely hidden, only shows up at a certain time, and didn't put any of his fetishes or political views into his battle, and the best part is killing him has no effect on Pacifist runs. Kill him or not, you still have to go through 11 turns of him going "boohoo, I'm a terrible artist, why doesn't anyone like me?".
I think someone posted the video showing his location in the thread already, but it's in the top section of Hotlands where an invisible bridge will take you to a secluded area with a sign. He only shows up on the date and time the sign says which I think was Oct 10th 8 p.m.
>batter with add-ons
Only the batter saw himself as a human with 3 circles helping him out. Everyone else saw him for the
monsterhe really is.
You'd know this is if you played the fucking game.
Sans is way more fun and crazy with all the shit he pulls, if you enjoy hard as nails platforming then it's perfect. Undyine the Undying was pretty amazing though and made you feel like the straight up villain more than the Sans fight.
if only we got a real Mettaton Neo fight
It's a true reset, everything is brought to zero basically.
I remember hearing though that if you go into Sans' room, you can find a picture of you and the others from the true pacifist ending.
Yeah, but Muffet a cute and didn't act out of place, or like a fat self insert furfag.
Sans might mention he thinks you've done this all before though.
If you got the photo at the end of the credits instead of staying with Toriel then if you access Sans' bedroom he'll have a copy of that photo.
From what I've heard yeah. But I think people will take a spider girl boss with a fun unique game mechanic, over some tub of lard dragon with a fedora whining throughout his entire battle. Muffet had something to add to the game, So Sorry you could tell was just slapped on at the last second.
>All those texts from Toriel in the epilogue
>'Please don't refer to me as Dreemurr'
>Sans gets her phone
What's cool is the almost complete genocide.
Beating Sans but resetting to neutral into pacifist.
Flowey goes something like "We got so close but you screwed it all up, why did you do all that? To show me what it's like to be nice while I... I know, it's because you wanted to see what would happen, but I know you'll do the right thing in the end."
Muffet felt completely in line with the game, has a fun and entertaining fight, and doesn't detract from the experience at all
Her fight made me wish I had dropped some serious dosh on the Kickstarter, I've spent a ton of money on a lot more worthless shit
Technically she shows up with that extremely expensive spider bake sale before the fight.
But yeah, you can kinda tell she was added afterwards because nothing really interacts with her, while all the other characters have plenty of interactions with each other.
But it's not a stretch to think of her just like the angry training dummy or something, so I didn't mind her.
It's ogre guys, some german faggot lowered the score, now Undertale isn't the greatest game of all time anymore.
I didn't finish OFF because it was painfully boring, which was upsetting because the setting was really fucking cool.
I doubt I could change your mind, but the encounter rate drops after the ruins. For some reason, he thought putting the encounter rate that high in that area was a good idea.
>tfw get the neutral ending where Papyrus becomes king of the underground
The encounter rate goes down every time you kill something, it's artificial padding to extend Genocide runs and make up for the fact the game is short as fuck and would only last 30 min to 1 hour on Genocide because you skip a lot of story.
The thing is, Muffet is actually a creation that fits and has her own original theme.
So Sorry is basically everything that's wrong with putting a self insert into a game. Shitty, selfish, pre-made OC, clumsy and self-deprecating personality and his attacks are completely unoriginal.
I beat it and I didn't think he was a monster the only person who says he is evil is the judge and that's only when he's 5 seconds from turning everything off, but the judge didn't have a problem helping you kill everything up till that point.
I do, I was never going to let the shitposting die as long as I lived, and now it's ruined.
I think it's supposed to be like Jerry from Parks and Rec. Nobody likes him and everyone always ditches him
not as good as asriel
>tfw Asgore is left alone with the prospect of becoming pals with you
>tfw his biggest resolution after the game is to continue gardening
>tfw you can now monopolize him for yourself >tfw I can return to his son in the ruins and also monopolize his son into coming to live with me and his father >tfw I can force them into a impure relationship, breaking them and making them dependent on me >tfw I make him invite everyone over for tea while
Because a skeleoton without clothes would be LEWD!
He has a reason to be nervous when you're eating his ex-wife's pie in front of him.
Played it, didn't hate it but it's nothing special outside of the music. The Tumblrtards and Homoshiters latching on to it and making a bunch of meme threads about it just make everything worse, the whole game should be banned from /v/ and kept on /vg/ already because there's nothing left to discuss, it's just enabling/hsg/ type faggotry at this point.
He looks like a furry, so he's inherently wrong about everything, but he's got a good point that a lot of hate for the game are from people who haven't played it, or went into the game wanting to hate it.
Not nearly as cute, cool, or cunning as Mettaton
No, these Homoshit faggots must be purged from the board.
You got that right fellow Mettatonfag.
>Not following the joke
It's people like you that ruin these things.
>not wanting more Ratchet
best new ip of the decade
one of the few exclusives the no game station has
it's like some goofus and gallant shit
>gallant collaborates with Toby to make a monster they're both happy with that fits the established setting
>goofus shoehorns in a pre-designed monster that exists primarily as something for him to masturbate to
encounter rate is timed while you move. After every encounter the timer resets to a higher number. You can exploit it by clicking out of the window while moving, and you'll stay moving without having to hold down a button
>He recognises Napstablook's voice from the call in
>Starts to call out 'Blooky' before it cuts out
Everyone should do a second playthrough for all the hints
literally everything between Alphys and Mettaton
God I wish there was a boss rush mode or something so I could play every boss as many times as I want. I love them all so much.
Are you sure it doesn't taste like Cinnamon-Butterscotch?
You dodge a bullet.
> tfw alphys is pretty qt then becomes a fucking idiot during the second half of the core area then crashes and burns when she canonically wants to eat undyne's carpet
I think this is the fastest a character has fallen from grace for me
>needing a spider donut at all
Muffet best girl BTW.
ASRI- i mean FLAOWY.. WHT DO U MANE
Not only that, but RELUCTANTLY murdering six humans, and only when they came to him, not vice versa. I love how Toriel explicitly calls him out on being such an enormous pussy.
>wrote a "guide" to help myself beat Undying Undyne
>its just a list of the kinds of attacks she uses per turn so I know if I actually have to heal up or attack
Should I bother putting this up in the steam guides?
Is it just me or does it seem kind of like in the neutral/pacifist endings, chara is part of flowey, as the host flower grew from where he was buried and Asriel contained his soul for a little while?
But in the genocide route, frisk's actions draw out the chara personality to use frisk as a host instead, leaving flowey with just the Asriel personality by the end of the route?
better than him starting a war. If the game made anything clear it's that when monsters step up against humans monsters get their shit pushed in. I mean genocide run you're basically just Godzilla where people evacuate cities and shit, mostly because you FIGHT BACK.
but still I thought it's kinda strange in the Pacifist Run Asgore is there in your group of friends. He murdered six people. Out of grief sure, but still murder.
"I can't go to hell, I've already used up all my vacation hours."
>only died once in my first playthrough
>it was to
It's because flowey/asriel isn't a genocidal freak hell bent on killing everything. He just really misses chara. In pacifist, he's clearly the villain, and his goal is just to reset the game again and stay with you. In genocide, you out class his blood lust easily and it shows at the end.
>Ever having romantic feelings for Doggo
Being the strongest type of monster there is in the Underground but getting eternally cucked by a skeleton who does no work and just makes shitty puns all day is probably pretty rough
I don't care if it's overdone, but I got chills the first time I read San's pre fight monologue.
>That moment that he stops talking in comic sans
Nah. I think that while Flowey can't feel love, he can feel fear. He is used to being the supreme being of the world. He has made friends with everyone, he has killed everyone. When he comes up against Frisk even 6 human souls aren't enough to overcome Frisk's DETERMINATION. But when he comes up against Chara, he's exposed for the pathetic flower that he actually is. The only thing he can do is appeal to Chara's humanity and hope there is some inkling of camaraderie left by pretending to be Asriel.
That line reminded me of Escape for Monkey Island.
QUICK. HUMAN MEATBAGS. WHAT DOES UNDERTALE REMIND YOU OF?
>ASGORE with the power of the 6 human souls as the hardmode genocide final boss.
>But maybe... with what little power you have left...
>...you can SAVE something else.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEWOTdVnnZ8 kicks in
>By now, Alphys has told ASGORE to absorb the 6 human souls
>he fucking didn't
wasted potential, Sans is a good last fight but we're told time and time again how powerful human souls are, i would have killed to see a full Asgore fight with him using it vs Chara
>That amalgamate is actually the mother of the snowdrake you encouter in the snowdin and wife of the one you can talk with in the hotel.
That was a pretty sad touch.
It was actually "I can't understand"
Not because he doesn't, he does understand he just can't do it.
For me it was
"It was nice to meet you human. Good bye"
*His hands tremble for a moment
*His breathing gets funny for a moment
*He nods Grievously
*He nods pitifully
I didn't do a genocide run so I don't know who Chara is, but
I thought Frisk was just some random kid, not the one who was Asriel's adopted brother. I assumed you were controlling the soul of Asriel's brother which was somehow able to posses Frisk.
Flowey. You have to realize he has one HP. And your character attacks with a knife or ballet shoes or by pistol whipping, basically an easy to dodge attack. Sans is good at dodging, but he's not going to dodge Flowey's massive AOE tentacle rape attacks. One hit and he's out.
>not being besties with the fish dyke
>So instead, I snooze while I cruise
>That's the garbage, feel free to visit anytime!
>STOP PLAGUING MY LIFE WITH INCIDENTAL MUSIC!
>I just caught something in my eye!
>Truly this is the worst possible ending
It was like a sense of cozy melancholia. It was a sad fight, but I liked it.
Watching the bullets not even try to hit you being really pathetic, the Joke and Heckle commands. All the parts combine into probably one of my favorite encounters in the game.
>It's the end.
>The REAL final battle has finally begun.
>The whole world is ending.
>But it refused.
Chara is the first human who fell. He was not a nice person, and he came up with the plan to kill himself in order to posses Asriel and destroy humanity. At the end of a pacifist run, all the characters begin calling you Frisk because Frisk is his own entity, a much nicer person and the true hope of humans and monsters. If you commit genocide, Frisk is immediately not in control and Chara possesses him the entire game.
>he didn't backtrack all the way to the Ruins at the end of True Pacifist to get the lore from Asriel
The true lab in general was pretty fucking spooky. I think Toby should try making a horror game.
>Seems saving the game really is impossible.
>But maybe with what little power you still have left...
>you can SAVE something else
I thought it was pretty obviously implied that the humans died in a bunch of different ways. I know Undyne had to of killed at least a few, and one of them died by accident in the ruins as well. I bet the dog guards managed to kill some too. I bet Asgore never did shit but make the order to go to war.
Frisk is a random kid. The eighth human to fall into the underworld, to be precise.
Chara is the first kid who fell in, in 201X, and he coincidentally had the same hairstyle / fashion sense as frisk. He was Asriel's adopted brother, and eventually he died, Asriel took his soul, and they kind of merged to become one being, jockeying for control over a powerful body.
Frisk lands on the flower bed. Some lines of dialogue can be interpreted to imply that Chara is buried underneath this flowerbed, and the seeds that the flowers grew from were contaminated with Asriel's dust.
Chara's ghost then tries to possess frisk. If you're good, and pacifist, it fails. If you kill monsters, pretty much every time you gain EXP you surrender a little more control over to chara, who will eventually completely usurp control from the player, starting fights and attacking on his own by the end of a genocide playthrough, and ultimately 'killing' the player.
Flowey was a flower from this bed (maybe?) injected with determination, so maybe it can be assumed he's some sort of amalgam of flower and Asriel's death dust? Maybe?
I thought from the name changes at the end that I was Asriel's brother and that I came to posses Frisk with the mission to save my brother. I thought my name changed to Frisk because I've satisfied my lingering regret and then moved on to give Frisk his life back.
Now I'm sad.
>with far better combat
I disagree very very much. Did you never do the music combos in mother 3? Or how the health reels were actually relevant to strategy?
If you had said it had better combat than mother 1+2 I'd agree tho.
Did I fuck up my genocide run if the music suddenly stopped being slowed down? I decided to check Sans' puzzle out and suddenly the music stopped being slowed down and the dog is making a snow sculpture
This amalgamate FUCKED me up, people talk all the time about tearing up during the true ending but this encounter was the only time I was on the verge of tears.
Its the fucked up snowdin music accompanied by those pathetic non-attacks, you get the feeling this amalgamate doesn't even want to live any more. Then I realized it was part Snowdrake and connected the dots back to the husband who lost his wife... goddamnit.
Her attack patterns are most of the time the same so just try to memorize the attack pattern
and nail the intro. Because after a certain point it's so fast that you always need to heal while it get's progressively harder.
Just try often and stay determined. It took me many tries, too.
This gotta be my favorite fight of the year
If you want a taste of Toby writing horror from several years back, look up Radiation's Halloween Earthbound Hack. It's not as refined as Undertale and he likes to pretend it doesn't exist, but I still got spooked hard when I played it a while back.
Flowey is indeed Asriel, Alphys' notes mention she thinks Asgore would love the fact that his son is being brought back
Unfortunately the plan is to make him completely soulless so he can absorb both human and monster souls so he literally cannot understand the concepts of love and compassion
yellow arrow tricky patterns
second it goes in a circle, one circle at the start, a second circle at the end of that attack. I don't know the circle directions, because I beat her before figuring that out
Thanks for the advice, problem is I'm ill-prepared, I thought I'd have had more defense with all the LOVE I'm getting, and I forgot to get better food than the 3 spider donuts I have... And I really don't wanna walk all the way back to get more food, if that's even possible.
I've tried memorizing the patterns, and I've gotten as far as half her health. After that everything gets fucking nuts and I'm shattered within seconds
How can he make all those faces if he's really just a sad furry on the inside?
Him being Asriel ruined his entire character, they should have been kept separate.
I sort of wish there was more challenge involved. Sans is bullshit hard but aside from him the game goes easy on you, especially during Flowey's true form and the true last boss. You can't fucking die during the latter.
Undine's and Mettaton's fights had the best fusion of gameplay and music.
>Attempt to grind
>Regular fights don't become any easier
>Entire boss fights are skipped
>No sense of progression or accomplishment
Why? You could at least reward some sense of progression, but the game punishes you anyway for dealing with encounters that are in your way efficiently.
I kinda agree, but they do try to make it clear that Asriel and Flowey should be treated as two different entities.
I bet if Flowey ever went to the surface in the true ending he stayed much of a dick as he ever was. Maybe not as murdery.
Don't worry Anon, I boxed my pie and pieces. I save those for Asgore, right?
And is there a quicker way back to Snowdin than just walking there? I don't wanna deal with that shit
>mfw I finally completed the intro without getting hit at all
His blue attack takes away all my health but 1 every time, though
Because once you kill Papyrus the game just turns on you. No one knows Toriel still exists so even though you completely betray her they typically don't know that. Sans can tell you're not human and people are wary but it's not really a final turning point.
Once you slaughter the Snowdin monsters and kill Papyrus, the monsters just see you as beyond hope. So they just sell out to stop you.
He died believing in you, and you betrayed him.
>frogit tells you that sometimes you might have to spare a monster even if it's name isn't yellow
>one second later Toriel phones you
IT TRUELY IS A MYSTERY FOR THE AGES
Toriel was shitty anyway, the kingdom was better off without her.
>Hypocritically mocked her husband's regretful decision
>Abandoned her people in their time of need
>Attempted to force children to stay with her
>Still let most of them die anyway
>king in the mountain
>an underground goat monster who wields a red trident
So much stuff packed with other meanings, like how Toriel and Asgore are immortals since Asriel died. This implies the first fallen child was generations past, so Satan could have been constructed from Asgore himself.
This is where I finally broke down and thought I'd end my genocide run. I thought he was being serious
And then he fucked me
Everything San's says before and during his boss fight is pretty much the best dialogue in the game.
>Expecting the "Go Nuclear" route to be enjoyable when it's designed to not be
I just hope you don't think yourself above the consequences.
>doing true pacifist run
>get to alphys date
>undyne and alphys are lesbians
>the entire date is about this
>"IS ANIME REAL?? XD I'M SO FUNNY I'M TOBY I HAVE A 97 ON METACRITIC"
sorry flowey, this is why i don't keep promises
Why the fuck would you attempt to grind in this game. The whole point is to not be a typical RPG.
None of the fights on any of the three routes are particularly challenging. Mettaton is probably the hardest pacifist fight, and Sans is the hardest genocide, but they're still not bad at all
You legitimately cannot go 100 to 0 in one turn in any pacifist so as long as you load up on bicycles and shit and get better armor it's easy.
You're choosing a path where you're a monstrous serial killer. What the fuck do you want? It's your choice to see the ending as negative, you're killing everything anyways so why not the entire universe?
>Wanting to genocide your local spider charity
Did you hear?
I heard humans have shit taste.
>Fighting him for the first time
YES, I'm fighting Undying. YES, I'm killing everything. I've got the determination save points and I get to punch the shit out of Monster Kid, I'm full Genocide.
Thank you so much
Also, quick question, what gear would you recommend? I have Ballet shoes as a weapon and Old Tutu as armor. Should I go for the paper and glasses for the invulnerability time?
>Call Undyne when standing near that area
>She mentions that the echo flowers keep sending messages of hopes and dreams of all the monsters in the underground since they first came down there, and it gives her great power
I don't think I've seen it mentioned, but it had me laughing the most. It was a papyrus call in front of the turtle shop. He says something like
>If you see a shop, you should stop...drop and roll into some hot deals! Because we're having some fire sales!
>butcher dozens of innocents on your way
>conveniently spare the most powerful opponent you have ever met
You deserved to get dunked on.
If you keep running into his final ring of shots after he loads the save to heal, he loses focus during his speech and tells you to stop
get fucking good faggot, Muffet probably has the most fun fight gimmick in the game
i had plenty of donuts and cider and i didnt bother using them because i was enjoying myself too much
Muffet was designed by Magnolia Porter, a competent artist who Toby knows from the webcomic scene
Daily reminder that Mettaton destroyed the royal memorial to Asriel to put himself in there. Fuck that guy.
If you really want the full experience it goes Neutral>Pacifist>Genocide>Soulless Pacifist. Something to know is completing a Genocide permanently locks you out of completing a true pacifist without literally changing shit in the steam cloud.
>Delete game from computer