>Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain has proven to be a hit, selling five million copies worldwide. According to today’s Nikkei, the Tokyo-based fitness company has began internal talks about the next Metal Gear title.
>The print edition of Nikkei reports that Konami is mulling over plans for another title in the popular stealth series. The newspaper adds that Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima, who is apparently on vacation, has not said whether or not he’ll be involved in the next title.
>Seeing how Konami took Kojima’s name off The Phantom Pain’s box art, dissolved his studio, and canned Silent Hills, it’s hard to see him staying on.
> “When we start development, a large-scale investment will become necessary,” Konami is quoted as saying by the recent Nikkei article.
Hypothetically speaking, would you guys donate to a MGSVI kickstarter if it meant the series would continue on?
>people replying seriously to this thread with no source.
That would be interesting, but would it be necessary. Each major title kind of needs some sort of lore-related implications of the series as a whole to justify its own existence and I don't really know how they would pull that off with the Boss in WWII
>wahhhhhh why don't devs make good games anymore
>dev offers to make a good game if you show some support
>refuse and instead hurl vitriol
This is why devs focus on casual shit now you fucking ingrates
I'm not if anyone but Kojima could do it. The story is so crazy that only he can make it work somehow. Rising was a casual take on the lore but even they couldn't really understand it.
>apparently on vacation
They are going to kill him and make it look like a suicide
Konami was a gym group originally investing in physical fitness clubs before moving into things like toys, then gambling machines and finally gaming.
All the same though, fuck them.
Not without Kojima working on it, and even then it's iffy. MGSV had so much micro-transaction shit so i can only imagine that Konami would find a way to jew it up even more if the series continued.
What I want from Kojima now is a Zone of the Enders 3, that'd be rad.
Where does Revengeance lie anyway? I've heard both canon and noncanon and a couple people say it's a 'what if' alternate timeline. Like if a mission went wrong somewhere, Revengeance would be the result. If the mission went off without a hitch it wouldn't have happened.
MGSVI will only work if they get rid of Kojima. He's the fucking Japanese Tim Schaffer. He can't handle budgets or the business side of games. Konami should just sell or license it out to Activision if they want it to be successful
Konami only made good games by accident because they somehow didn't make working conditions shitty enough for the teams that went on to do something worthwhile. They're not worth dickriding on name alone.
I think Kojima has to be on a leash. Somebody has to hold him off on his ambitions, that way he can create something good. But now, I'm afraid, he's too far up his own arse for his own good.
It lies a few years after MGS4.
I have no fucking idea why people are saying it's non-canon, as it doesn't seem to do anything that breaks it.
>Hypothetically speaking, would you guys donate to a MGSVI kickstarter if it meant the series would continue on?
Not sure about donating anything but zero interest unless I get confirmation that Kojima doesn't fucking touch the game anymore
I'm making assumptions here;
-Kojima is under a hush order or something via contract reasons or something
-Konami did this because they don't want other companies trying to snatch up a big name such as that right up. I don't know why, though, as they're not even sure what they want to do for consoles/pc.
You play as old Kaz defending himself from the assassins who tried to kill him.
In the end you die The game is 20 minutes long because Konami ran out of money You'd still preorder it
What's there to actually say, though? He built Outer Heaven and went crazy, that's pretty much all there is, unless you're looking for a story that would be incredibly self-contained because nothing is going to inherently matter in that game other than Big Boss going crazy. The villain himself will just be another disposable figure who'll never be referenced in the canon, ever.
>>Seeing how Konami took Kojima’s name off The Phantom Pain’s box art, dissolved his studio, and canned Silent Hills, it’s hard to see him staying on.
>This is journalism in 2015
Shut the fuck up nobody cares about you or your shitty opinion Brian just write down the fucking news.
I cant imagine theres only that. They must have planned to do more with that island than just the sally fight. Sally is obviously the last mission of that zone but I imagine that there are more mission concidering XOF is at the island too
What they should do is allow MGSV to be finished. They have so much of it finished. I just don't understand them. Get a small team together to fucking finish it.
Konami want out of games so the can focus on gambling and Vegas deals that will make them billions, but now that MGSV was a success, they want back into video games? They could have done both. With over eighty billion dollardoos coming into the company they could easily make more games without ever worrying about cost. I just don't understand why they have to have such singular focus.
I really don't want a Metal Gear without all the people that make Metal Gear enjoyable. Let the property rest. It's had a hard life.
>Have to pay devs to start developing a game
>No promises about quality or fucking anything
>Might still have to buy the game later
Kickstarter is fucking terrible, and only a fool would throw money at a theoretical concept before it has been fleshed out. Donating to convince them to think about making another game is beyond retarded
Would they even be able to build a three act storyline around that, though? There isn't really all that much to go off from what you've said.
I can't see it really going anywhere other than stating that 'Big Boss found Zanzibarland and see it for yourself'.
There isn't really much to fundamentally say storywise, other than stating the obvious by showing things people are already aware of in the lore.
The game is still selling every week. It has legs. Konami made back everything they invested into the game literally overnight.
Anecdotal evidence: Stores around me are still having trouble keeping the game in stock. It's crazy.
No you fight the "Ultimate snake".
>Has the abilities of all the snakes.
>Has solids Octo camouflage and uses cigs in his tactics.
>Uses all the tricks of naked snake, like using ethnol to knock you out
>Jumps like liquid
>Rocket arm like Venom
>Uses a sword to deflect bullets like Raiden
>Infinity ammo banda
>Can take apart weapons like the boss.
>Has tentacle arm CQC like Solidus.
>Seeing how Konami took Kojima’s name off The Phantom Pain’s box art, dissolved his studio, and canned Silent Hills, it’s hard to see him staying on.
I like how there's not a single shed of proof that this is what happened and this faggot here is passing rumours as fact a mere 3 months later. Vidya journalism is a joke.
>I like how there's not a single shed of proof that this is what happened
As shit as Kotaku is, this all did fucking happen. They're just spouting what is common knowledge now.
Rumours a few months later dont become any more truthful nigga. There's been nothing said on the matter by Konami other than leaked corporate info describing a restructuring and Kojima and Kojipro being on a break.
Considering how cut and dry the original MSX games were, remakes of them might work. Or even have each operation be half of the game and have it be all huge complex infiltration goodness in the fox engine, none of the open world shit. Have bro ops with Gray Fox during the first half of the game which then culminates in the mine field fight in the second half for muh feels. Poke some fun at how silly Big Medic is and it'd have a good chance of being a good game, especially without Kojimas hamfisted messages.
Konami was never planning to leave making games, they just fired Kojima because he was an awful VP who was wasting huge amounts of money.
They canceled Silent Hills because it was going to be another huge money pit. There is no reason to waste money on risky projects when they can just make mobile shit that prints money.
MGS managed to sell well enough to make a profit so they are going ahead with that series. They might even keep Kojima along so his mindless fanboys can be happy.
>yfw MGS6 turns out to be a masterpiece because Kojimbo is out and a properly talented writer/director who isn't senile at 50yo revives Metal Gear
>yfw it's a remake of the first MGS and you play as Solid
>yfw it will never happen
Rising did really well. The hardcore fans are slowly starting to like it for it's own merits. This means someone else could do pretty well if they got their hands on the franchise.
Jesus Christ. He was Vice President of Konami Digital Entertainment. He clearly can handle finance. It is just that the people at the top of Konami are old money retards that don't understand how much a 'AAA' title costs. They were angry that he spent $81 million dollars on MGSV. That included the cost of the fucking FOX ENGINE.
>implying anybody is going to buy another metal gear game after giving us an incomplete game
maybe only PS4 faggots considering they buy remastered games that only came last gen
There is a difference between Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Rising. I wouldn't want Platinum in charge of MGS, I barely want them in charge of MGR2.
That being said I would buy MGS6 with or without Kojima. Portable Ops was better than Peace Walker
and 3, sorryand Kojima being salty about it is evident of what a crackjob he is.
Every single review agreed that the worst part of MGSV was the story. Konami has been building a consensus in which everyone accepts that Kojima was a shit writer all along.
Because he was a shit writer all along. And most sensible people are now accepting that fact.
But that was a spinoff originally headed by Kojima until he passed it off to Platinum. Maybe the Rising series can continue, but MGS is done without Kojima. His fans won't betray him.
A gag order is standard practice when you 'let a high level employee with trade secrets' go. They don't want him to be able to immediately form a competing company, or join an existing company and start work on another game/game engine.
Agreed about Kojima. There's 3 people in this industry that should always have a retard wrangler to stop them going full retard.
Kojima, Kamiya and Nomura. The holy trinity of people who should never be solely in charge of a project or franchise.
>Believing clickbait sites
>Believing /v/ posting links to clickbait sites
Did you hear? Konami HQ is on fire, right now.
Yeah, because the last MGS without Kojima was sooooo great
How about what the fuck MGSVI was advertised about, Big Boss road to hell as he became an ethically depraved soldier who started using child soldier because why the fuck not, instead of the Good Guy Venom who wouldn't let a kid die to save his life.
I can see it in front of me.
"In MGSV, we have Big Bossu and Venom, we have vee and i, where you are vee and i am i, and you will find the missing pieces between what snake and big boss that lead up to outer haven and zanzibar land. Did you rike it? =^)"
Yeah, I think Kojmia is really fucking drained from metal gear, give him some new shit. In PT you could tell he was motivated as hell considering all the fresh new ideas there were.
A full game would of been fucking amazing. Like even if he fucked it up, it still would of been good if PT's quality is anything to go by.
Rising needs to be treated separately considering how different the gameplay is.
I think V is the best mechanically but in terms of sticking to the MGS 1 paradigm of stealth, 3 takes the cake.
Peace walker is thematically the grandest metal gear though.
Except for the fact that they shut down all of the studios making video games, and fired anyone that didn't take a job making 'mobile games' read 'slot machines'. MGSV is far from a money pit. It cost the company $81 million dollars, and that includes the cost of an entirely new game engine. $81 million is fucking nothing.
They cancelled Silent Hills because they don't want to make games any more. Look at the people that bought a PS4 just to play P.T. For a while people were selling PS4s on ebay for over a grand, because their systems still had P.T. on it. To say that Silent Hills was going to be a money pit is crazy. It was no risk involved. Silent Hills would have out sold MGSV, because Silent Hills appeals to a larger crowd. Also, Konami doesn't understand the western game market at all.
>non-compete, and they're largely unenforceable
Tell that to Conan O'Brien.
Sorry that I couldn't remember the name. You are right that it is a non-compete, and my description of the non-compete was spot on except what it is called.
If he spended more money then the game would have made no profit at all due ro the insane costs,
We dont even know if 5 million is enough to cover the costs of the game as it was released.
Fuck no. The whole idea of Kickstarter was to allow people to independently fund projects, not for megapublishers to maximize profits by exploiting an established fanbase to pay for a game's development. If they want to make another one, that's fine I guess, but they're the ones who have to pony up the dough. Their reward comes after through game sales.
My resolve might be tested if they started a Zone of the Enders 3 kickstarter.
Kojima is nothing more than a concept man. He generates the concept and foundation to a game or story. That's it.
Other people should be the ones to create the characters, fill the story, and create the looks.
Del Toro, Kojima, and Junji-fucking-Ito were making a game together and Konami goes full retard. They are still making a game together, but It will have another name. Del Toro pushed the sequel to "Pacific Rim" back for REASONS.
I agree. Sometimes people run out of good fucking ideas and need to be replaced, or cycled out for awhile.
Lucas copied his ideas and technical shit from Jodorowsky when he wanted to make the Dune movie, and collected technical guys, actors, etc. then got denied by the studios. He had a giant book made that showed the action sequences, etc. that went to every studio, to which nearly all big directors used and copied for their own movies.
He should have stuck to the true to life combat and 80's action style war/conflict movies/real life. It is somewhat niche, but the gameplay and shit is perfect for that Vietnam airborne drop behind enemy lines, sneaking through the jungle, sneaking/shooting through fucking tunnels underground with traps and shit?
God that would be amazing.
The guy managed to squeeze out MGSV and the fantastic Fox Engine for 80 million dollars. That is fiscally insane. Most game engines alone cost over that figure, and he found a way to make an engine and a game for nearly nothing. Kojima may not be your cup of tea, but give credit where credit is due.
First part playing with Venom and beeing killed by Solid, and second part with Solid, defeating Big Boss.
It would be a nice remake of those shitty MSX titles that hipsters pretend they played.
You sincerely have no idea what you are talking about. Konami are on the cusp (unless the bill has already past) of having a complete monopoly on gambling in Japan with a partnership with Vegas that is going to make billions upon billions of dollars. Konami aren't in, nor were they ever, in financial dire straights.
MGSV doesnt feel like a game that costed 80 million dollars. He clearly mismanaged the whole project and used a lot of money on stuff he didnt even used in the game. There was a musician that wrote 40 songs for MGSV and not one of the songs were used.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
WHAT'S WRONG WITH ARABIC NUMBERS
>inb4 V(enom) has come to
What happened to all the hurr so what if AAA makes money, mobile makes more money because smaller budgets so fuck Kojima and fuck Silent Hills?
It's Kotaku so this whole speculation is probably pure bullshit, but I expect Konami to pull a Silent Hill and contract some cheap, unknown Western developers to make MGS sequels. It didn't work with Silent Hill, it obviously wouldn't work with MGS, but it's Konami so this is exactly what is going to happen if they indeed plan to keep producing AAA MGS games.
That's exactly what he's saying dude. The game didn't cost 80 million to produce. Simply making the engine it runs on took a massive bite out of that. The fact he still made a game and a new engine with 80 million is damn impressive.
Did you completely miss the point of MGS4? The whole game was about how redundant and useless normal soldiers like Solid are compared to enhanced ones through nanomachines or cyborg enhancents like Raiden's. Raiden would wipe the fucking floor with Solid post revengeance, Snake's like a hundred years old anyways.
as long as it was some raiden shit yes. new clone or new super soldier program what ever hell play as a custom bad guy type character with odd abilites
but no fucking raiden bullshit unless he stops wearing high heals and puts on some fucking pants
Fuck no. After the mess that is 5 I am done with the series.
MGS5 felt like it was 40% complete to begin with so really don't trust Konami or Kojima with anything at this point.
Well there's more too it then that. Until someone cranks out the perfect engine that can do anything and everything easily
which isn't going to happenthen companies out there will have to create new engines now and then. Otherwise everything will just stagnate once every nook and cranny of the engine has been explored.
I'm actually quite hype about what can come out of the Fox engine. Let's hope Konami doesn't hold it hostage for too long.
You can do anything with any engine out there technically, it boils down to how well it processes information for desired results and how easy it is to actually implement those processes when building the game.
Look at the Cry engine and Star Citizen. The Cry engine just kind of sucks when it comes to tons of shit moving around and changing directions constantly and shooting at each other. It's really resource intensive to calculate all that shit and actually getting it working is a nightmare in getting your coding working properly. Cry just ain't good for space ship games. Cry engine has its benefits and looks fantastic when utilized properly but it's really more suited for first person shooters then it is space ships.
Engines are complex. Depending on the engine, is super easy to do some things and implement mechanics, a hell of a lot harder to do others. The only reason they are a thing is because it's easier to license use of one then it is to build every game ever from the ground up.
I'm still not too sure why Cry was the engine of choice for Star Citizen.
>MGS game without Kojima
>story about Big Boss
>more contained spaces
>rescuing Sniper Wolf
>Ocelot providing backup in cover
>no more Kojima NANOMACHINES/PARASITES and alike
>no more self inserts for teens that day dream about rescuing their high-school crush from the evil bully at the sound of linkin park OMG IS JUST LIKE VENOM AND QUIET
long live MGS6
They've been shilling for years on /v/. Search the archives after when one of the markerters sperg out about /v/ not liking the 2nd 3D Castlevania game and goes full retard, posting proof of their shilling along with telling everyone on /v/ to go to hell.
>A properly talented writer/director involved
And you're calling him retarded?
>snake is already dead
The solid snake in MGS4 was actually a SEAL team member that inflated Big Shell but was nearly killed. He was subsequently revived by Plisskin's moustache. But the moustache took over his personality and he became solid snake. The real solid snake died at big shell but his sheer strength of will caused his spirit to transfer by saltwater osmosis into a nearby grouper.
This. Although I've never been a real MGS fanboy, I can see quite clearly that Kojima himself is a big part of what draws people to the series. Trying to decipher the meaning behind his cryptic interviews, tweets, announcements, things he puts in his games, etc. is a huge part of MGS from what I have seen, particularly on this board. Speculation drums up hype.
This just might work
Someone actually went to university for 3 years and studied English literature & publishing to write "NEEDS LOTS OF MONEY" in a title piece.
Is this that famous American education I've heard about?
Can you imagine a Star Wars movie WITHOUT George Lucas?
No one can truly understand the series except the creator himself.
Jesus Christ, you are retarded.
Except huge parts if the fanbase turned against Lucas over a decade ago due to the shitty prequels and his compulsion to make make minor changes to the original trilogy.
Its Metal Gear. A clone of her would make more sense than anything else that has happened. They could just make it someone else who got plastic surgery to look like her and was brainwashed.
It´s this exact meme that steered us into this shit situation. MGSV could have been made by any idiot, Rising definitely has a better story than V and Peace Walker.
The biggest problem will probably be Konami not wanting to give the kind of celebrity status to somebody again which can be benefiecal or make it worse because Konami workers can´t get anything done without Kojima sempais approval so the team on their own could result in a more focused team or they just stay retarded.
>Someone actually went to university for 3 years and studied English literature & publishing to write "NEEDS LOTS OF MONEY" in a title piece.
Calm your tits yurofag.
In 'murica you don't need a degree to write for an online site. I know yurop culture is obsessed with academic degrees and every 23 year old squirt calls himself a "doctor" but do try to contain the ridicule.
You lot need that ego masturbation. Other countries just need professional competence.
>u need a degree to write shit on a blog huehuehuehue
At this point someone who's a huge MGS fan might actually do a better job than Kojima. Obviously not one of those spergs who know ever single little thing and have spent 10k hours in the games, but someone who admires them for what they are and knows the good and the flaws and embraces both.
The game on 5 platforms hasnt outsold the one released 6 years ago on one platform with a fraction of the install base. It goes against an above post in this chain numbnuts
>b-but sales dont matter
MGS:VI:now your playing as big boss for real edition
Same core gameplay as V,
You go around stealing all the nukes building the base that is in metal gear 2
Throught the game you encounter young adult versions of all the bosses you would fight in mg2 and they would be your buddies.
Jesus christ Konami. Wasn't Kojima the reason MGSV needed that much money in the first place? What's your fucking excuse now that he's gone.
That is all MGS needs.
Kojima was always a monkey throwing faeces for people to gather around to see what crazy stunt he would do. It's a personality cult and he does deserve some merit, but everything else made him think he's unquestionable and can do nothing wrong.
He made MGS series good, but he also made it shit.
Tomokazu Fukushima is all it's needed.
Future tactical stealth operations, infiltrating high-tech facilities starring as The Boss
(actually an android recreation). Philosophy on the nature of artificial intelligence and free will, what it means to be in a dead hero's skin etc.
You ok there buddy?
Why are you faggots clamoring for another Metal Gear Solid? The series is dead folks. Kojima is gone and after the disastrous launch of a game THAT WAS LITERALLY UNFINISHED what makes you think it'll be anything good especially with the fuckery that Konami pulled?
You are the exact reason why gaming companies treat you like shit. You can't let go so you just keep spending tons of money on a familiar IP out of nostalgia or a sense of obligation without realizing you're killing the thing you enjoy.
Actually, nah go ahead and make a kick starter, donate millions and I'll gleefully smirk as MGS VI fails to live up to your expectations and disappoints you yet again.
If you fuckers can't learn from your mistake with MGS V, you deserve to watch your series twist and writhe as it becomes nothing but a cash cow franchise. Enjoy your new AssCreed tier bullshit /v/, you fucking earned it
Kojima's obviously had too much. Not only has he been engrossed in MGS for 20 years but at this point he's probably half scared shitless he's going to fuck up and lose respect and half so caught up in himself and his own ego that he'd miss obvious flaws and poor decisions, and nobody around would dare to tell him no(queue the George Lucas WebM with that guy giving that look when Lucas is drawing on the board). Someone new would not only be able to breathe new life into it but also respect the source material more because the source material isn't his but Kojima's, and simply the idea of making a failure of MGS would make him work even harder.
Maybe if Konami gets their head out of their asses with this mobile shit they might try another, but they'll likely be successful because for some reason Asians love shitty mobile games with microtransactions.
But hey, maybe they'll make so much money and become a mobile-games powerhouse that they decide to revive the series and just throw money at it just to see if it could still be profitable.
it already is a cash cow franchise.
right now on /mgg/ those faggots are only discussing the bikini DLC for MGO3.
That's right, the general for MGS is praising and circle jerking DLC.
It's dead and Kojima killed it.
Kojima is a tumour. Maybe without the tumour and a good amount of chemo (Tomokazu Fukushima) the series can live again even with DLC and Konami bullshit.
JUST GIVE ME MGSV GAMEPLAY BUT FUCK THE OPEN WORLD
I just want a hundred different ground zeroes. Make it a FOXHOUND game where you go on missions as the members, they can be long missions whatever just give me a base to infiltrate, not a couple of tents to sneak around the back of.
Konami got away with releasing an unfinished game and made back their investment and more. What makes you think they'll bother letting Tomokazu or anyone give the next entry any creative love when dicking over customers has paid them handsomely?
>Hypothetically speaking, would you guys donate to a MGSVI kickstarter if it meant the series would continue on?
Hard to say. If Kojima is on board and asks for it... then I'd probably put some.
If Kojima isn't involved... fuck Konami.
it's good. it was a critical and sales success.
the fact that it's not canon is irrelevant, the point is that there's no need for Kojima for a good MGS game.
but you're a fanboy, and fanboys are retarded loyalists that praise brands and personalities more than quality, so there's no point arguing.
>Introduced nearly all the gameplay ideas that became a core part of the series in PW and V
>Exact same gameplay as 3
>BUT MUH STORY
V proved that games with kojima can have just as terrible stories if not worse
I could get behind this
>series of disconnected bases like Ground Zeroes but larger
>each one has a Metal Gear in it
>game is about Snake and Ocelot traveling the world destroying each one
post credits scene is Ocelot getting the tip about the tanker from EE
>maybe they'll make so much money and become a mobile-games powerhouse that they decide to revive the series and just throw money at it just to see if it could still be profitable.
This is what I hope will happen with Konami. I know it's pretty unlikely, but once they make ass loads off of mobile shit, maybe they'll come back to more traditional gaming media with all that cash.
But I think you're right about Kojima. Making games for the same series for two decades would exhaust anybody of ideas.
>konami is shilling a gameboy color game that they didn't even bother to re-release on the virtual console
I'm sure this is true and it's not just that ghost babel is a good game
Filler leading to the gran finale when Venom fights Solid.
And we find out that somehow Venom switched bodies with Solid. Solid is Venom.
Reminder that Sahelanthropus is an allegory for the game itself
>unfinished piece of shit with functions and features incomplete or missing entirely
>created by a hack who lied to himself and everyone around him and convinced himself and maybe a few gullible fucks he's not a terrible person
>rushed out the door by the evil bad guy who had different ideas of how to use it
>takes literal mental gymnastics for it to stand on its own two legs
I liked every kojima game except for MGS4
I liked MGSV even though I'm pissed that they cut so much out of it
I also like ghost babel and rising, there's no reason to play teams, people are really narrow-minded.
I'm not that interested in a new metal gear game since I'm pretty burned out with the series at this point, I'd be down with a MGR2 though.
>multiple playable characters
>you can use enemy soldiers to blend in but pressing triangle under any circumstance will get you spotted
>no survival viewer
>all you have to do in each mission is reach an objective and the mission is done, you can just get spotted and run to it and you're good to go
>exactly the same as mgs3
you either played one or the other
What are you, 12? You realize that you're coming across as a deluded Kojima fanboy, right? Why would Konami be shilling a Game Boy Color game released like two decades ago?
That paid for itself overnight, and continues to be in the top ten of software sales.
I for one, really enjoy MGSV, would I have liked the game to be complete? Yes. Is it a fucking trainwreck the way it is now? No.
>my sword is a tool of justice
>I protect the weak
That fucking word is getting overused lately. An edgelord would be some deviantart tier overpowered thing that kills innocents for no reason other than he can. Fucking Armstrong his more of an edgelord than Raiden.
Uh no, you couldn't.
Fox engine has to be one of the most optimized engines out there next to unreal.
I was able to to get it running perfectly with every turned to max, except for shadows, on a literal toaster.
>market themselves as journalists, try to "expose" truths, keep everybody up to date on the latest stupid industry news and even write reviews which get put on the marketing blurbs for games
>get called out on integrity or bias
>"lol we are just a blog guys, check out this cool top ten list!"
What I think would be cool would for Konami to contract out the Metal Gear name to a great dev team and have them make MG games about Solid's very early days, keeping Big Boss, Outer Heaven, Foxhound and the rest of that clusterfuck out of it. Like a semi-reboot so the designers and writers actually have some room to breath within the Metal Gear series. Then if that works out well they can hype up the Metal Gear 1 and 2 remake once the dev team has some experience with the series.
It doesn't suck. It's quite good actually. But taste is subjective. Gameplay it is the best of the bunch.
Remember that TPP is what all you faggots wanted.
Then: "Metal Gear more like Movie Gear. Oh my god these codecs are fucking awful! They keep breaking my immersion!"
Now: "Where are the fucking cutscenes? The codecs are optional now? What the fuck? Those are the two things that the series is known for! They can't just take them out!"
All the changes made to story telling were made because of assholes like yourselves. Remember that.
Konami were completely unreasonable with what they were asking. Build a new engine and new games at the same time. Let us not forget that not only was the Fox Engine made at this time but that Kojima was making TWO games at the same time. Silent Hills was farther along than most people think. Konami are out of fucking touch, but that won't matter come next year.
Solid fags just can't take that Big Boss is superior in every way. He went to the graveyard to throw himself on a sword for David, so whatever amount of time he had left could be peaceful.
Are you retarded? He never said PO had all the features MGS3 had, only that it played like it, which it did. Movement and combat mechanics were ripped straight out of it the same way Dark Souls 2 plays like Dark Souls 1.
No, this is the result of a post ironic society where the children were aware and questioned why they had to write different from how they speak but they got no good answer so now everything is being written in colloquial speech.
Even the movement isn't the same because you have less buttons on the PSP, so walking slowly is not done with the analogue stick but it's triggered by pressing a button, you also have less cqc options. You are literally basing your entire argument of PO being good on the fact that the characters move and punch/kick like in MGS3 since everything else is completely different
> The Boss during WW2
> The true MGS5 starring Saladin building Outer Heaven and Zanzibar Land
> Chapter 3 of Phantom Pain / Venom v.s. Big Boss, destruction of Diamond Dogs
> MG1, MG2 and MGS remakes in the Fox engine with MGSV gameplay
Is all needed IMO.
MG1 and 2 would be amazing remade in fox engine since both outer heaven and zanzibar land are supposedly as big as a nation, but mgs1 would make no sense. You'd still be in a single base with not many options for free-roaming.
Also Diamond Dogs later becomes Outer Heaven, big boss building outer heaven and then giving it away to venom snake is just full blown autistic fanfiction that started on the shitty metal gear wiki, which is 99% autistic fanfiction
Games can have simple stories that are just for character interactions.
> Big Boss/Saladin finding and training Sniper Wolf, Grey Fox, all the bosses of the MSX games
I would love to see how Big Boss game to the conclusion to train child soldiers, this is only a sidenote when you are a limp dicked coward with no imagination. Killing child soldiers isn´t necessary but at least taking them in to train should be possible. Though that´s probably why Kojima was fucked in the ass and thus he had to rewrite that whole aspect into Venom just being a babysitter.
>I would love to see how Big Boss game to the conclusion to train child soldiers
He already came to that conclusion before MGSV. He was ok with child soldiers in PW, VS (which supposedly has big boss's memories) is totally fine with child soldiers in V and even encourages Kaz to have them fight.
He became a soldier at least before 15 so it's just normal to him.
>That paid for itself overnight
Kojima fangirls are hilarious.
You don't just defend to death your shitty game, you also exaggerate on the lies.
2 weeks after release MGSV didn't even broke even.
Now, no one knows because Konami still isn't releasing the exact numbers.
let me guess, you're one of those retards getting wet over that stupid comparison between MGSV sales and movie tickets.
>over it's lifetime.
In the same time frame MGS4 was more profitable.
>game is a smash hit
>"w-we need more money for a sequel!"
>what they were asking
The engine was completed 6 years ago. Fox Engine was completed before the production of MGSV.
All Kojima productions had to do was to actually make the game.
He wasted over 5 years and an absurd amount of money. Maybe Konami pulled the plug on Silent Hills because Kojima was getting sidetracked AGAIN from MGSV.
Every game about war is "anti-war", even CoD.
You'll never find a story where the moral is "war is fun and beneficial to everybody, want another cup of it senpai ;) ?"
>/v/ discussing what made Metal Gear great
>"Kojima wasn't the only one working on it, the team making it had just as much effect"
>/v/ discussing why they think modern Metal Gear is bad
>"Fucking Hackjima ruined EVERYTHING! No one else is to blame!"
It has paid for itself already. The game had a budget of 80 million. One million copies sold would be 90 million if you figure people spent sixty bucks on it. We know that it has sold over one million copies. It paid for the development of an entirely new engine and a game and a half (depending on how far along Silent Hills was. It was in development for sometime). It is still selling right now enough for Konami to think twice apparently.
>Kojimadrones discussing what made Metal Gear great
>KOJIMA-SAMA DOES NOTHING WRONG DELICIOUS GOOK COCK SLURP SLURP KOJIMA DID IT ALL
>Kojimadrones discussing why some things might be less than perfect
>FUCKING KONAMI IS TO BLAME
MGSV made $179,000,000 on the day of it's release. The fact that Konami are too retarded to see that as anything other a staggering success is no one's fault but Konami's for hating money.
Kojima Productions made the Fox Engine. Are you delusional? Eighty million dollars is nothing in 'AAA' terms. Companies are spending double that on fucking marketing. The cost of the Fox Engine is factored in to the cost of MGSV. Konami made out like bandits. Now they have a really well optimized in house game engine that they could license out.
>One million copies sold would be 90 million if you figure people spent sixty bucks on it
You do know that when you buy a 60 dollars game the developer doesn't get back 60 dollars right? Jesus fucking christ how retarded can you be?
Also, I never said the game didn't paid for it self (like it should and it shouldn't be something to be surprised about). I said that "That paid for itself overnight" is a blatant lie and provided source with actual numbers that proved that 2 weeks after release MGSV still didn't broke even.
Can you read?
Now, after one month, yeah no shit, it probably broke even.
Konami probably figured that with less money and less time wasted they could replicate the sales, and have better and faster profit.
>MGSV made $179,000,000 on the day of it's release.
Yes. And? It still didn't broke even 2 week after release.
All Konami learned from that is that they can make more MGS games but this time with much less spending.
If you buy 50000$ in lemons, and in day one make 500$ in lemonade is it a success? It is. But you're not making money.
MGSV WAS A PHANTOM GAME MADE TO PAY OFF THE MONEY TO MAKE THE FOX ENGINE
THEY NOW NEED AN ACTUAL INVESTMENT ALONG WITH THE PROFITS TO MAKE MGS5
You are fucking dense. The game cost them 80 million to make, and it sold 179 million on the first fucking day of it's release. You do understand that people are STILL buying it right? It is a VERY safe assumption that Konami are in pure profit mode at this point. Stop moving the goal posts.
>Kojima Productions made the Fox Engine
Did I said they didn't? Are illiterate?
Remember when Kojima and Konami were showing off Fox Engine? That was
7 years ago. They built the engine, THEN made the game. The game itself took over 5 years.
>Eighty million dollars is nothing in 'AAA' terms
It is. Not many triple A games go there, and when you look at bigger and better games in terms of sales no one spent near 80 million.
>The cost of the Fox Engine is factored in to the cost of MGSV
except is not...because Fox Engine is also used for PES and the 80 mil budget contemplates only MGSV production. So....you say 80 mil is nothing for triple A games but now you're saying it's the cost of MGSV production plus Fox Engine development? So how is it?
You are fucking dense and illiterate
2 weeks after release day MGSV "only" sold 3 million units and Konami wasn't breaking even.
That 179 million myth is a calculated estimative made by some retard that made a comparison between movie tickets and units sold=direct profit. A myth fanboys quickly jumped on as fact.
At this point, yes Konami probably is making profit.
>In a recent industry report from Adobe, it covers general trends in gaming and shows that Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain beat Avengers: Age of Ultron in terms of its opening global revenue.
>The big takeaway point that everyone seems to be latching onto is that The Phantom Pain pulled in $179 million in opening global revenue, which seems to amply cover the game’s development cost of $80 million.
>That amount of money roughly translates to around 3 million sales, which was also the figure that was already made public a while back.
>Revenue is the end sales and while it’s not clear that this figure includes digital versions of the game, it’s effectively the amount of money made at retail.
Publishers sells games for however much they want, and stores sell games based on suggested prices.
I know it's a meme to think publishers only make $10 per copy sold, but it's actually closer to the realm of $30-45. Place like GameStop literally only exist because of their used game policies.
But lets low ball this shit just to prove a point. Lets say every copy of MGSV put $25 in Konami's pocket. That is 41.666~% of the entire sale, which we will lower even further to 40% for convenience's sake.
40% of $179,000,000 is $71,60,000, which the game had a busget of $80,000,000. In less than a day, MGSV almost paid for itself, and Christmas hasn't even come yet. Konami are just fucking retards feinting threats to convince fence straddlers to pony up their cash.
>It is. Not many triple A games go there, and when you look at bigger and better games in terms of sales no one spent near 80 million
Grand Theft Auto 4 cost 100 million dollars and that was made in 2008. Grand Theft Auto 5 is said to have cost 256 million to make.
Play as Solid (and possibly Liquid) Snake(s) during the First Gulf War in Kuwait, where he (they) have their first taste of combat / stealth experience. Big Boss + Diamond Dogs are your opponents near the end of the game. Depending how skilled your base + personnel the last time you played MGSV, the skill of the DD soldiers varies.
That's like being a housewife spreading her buttcheeks to an abusing husband after he made you have a miscarriage from beating you so much.
Fuck Konami and fuck MGS post-MGS3
>But lets low ball this shit just to prove a point. Lets say every copy of MGSV put $25 in Konami's pocket. That is 41.666~% of the entire sale, which we will lower even further to 40% for convenience's sake.
there's no need to speculate numbers and scenarios. just read the links.
So extent $179m in one day to $180m in 6 days weeks. Either way, MGSV is a finacial success and has only gotten more popular and more sales since the Forbs article was written less than a week after MGSV was released. The point is, anyone trying to claim that MGSV is anything but a financial success for Konami are literally retarded.
How is Metal Gear different?
GTAIV - June 12, 2008
GTAV - September 17, 2013
Metal Gear 4 - June 12, 2008
Metal Gear V - September 1, 2015
I just chose the first 'expensive' multiplat that I could think of. Naughty Dog are rumored to have spent over 200 million on The Last of Us. My point being, 80 million dollars isn't that extravagant a budget. FUCK.
>mfw Konami is seriously holding the rest of the story hostage for more money
> Either way, MGSV is a finacial success
that I agree with you. at least I bought the game twice for having it on Pc and Ps4 (for MGO3).
The whole point was the retard that still parroted the Age of Ultron comparison and thinks MGSV on release day alone gave 179 million liquid profit when marginally compared MGS4 did better in the same timeframe. But that's Kojima fangirls I guess.
It isn't being a fanboy to state facts and use a sliver of critical thinking to reseal that the entire discussion of money means fuck-all when MGSV is financially successful, no matter how long it takes to do it.It paid for itself and then some, ergo Konami are now >$80,000,000 richer because of it. The whole day 1 or week 1 argument is pointless as fuck, so why you are being so nit picky about is just as pointless.
I'm going nuclear and not giving them shit
MGSV was fucking awful gameplay and story wise.
>inb4 "Its the best game in the last 10 years"
Fuck off Kojimadrone.
It seems as if most of the work was done for chapter 3, at least the arc was complete. It would be fucking fantastic if they would finish it and just fucking give it to everyone that bought the game, but they are fucking pricks, so that will more than likely never happen.
well you have a fuckload of numbers here
There's also a fairly good analysis on polygon but I don't want to link anything to polygon
No. I'm fine with MGS ending as a franchise.
Wipe this meme from the face of the earth
>There's also a fairly good analysis on polygon but I don't want to link anything to polygon
MGSV is a good game. How people could buy/play Ground Zeroes and seriously be disappointing with how MGSV played out post-purchase (from a gameplay perspective) despite having over 3 hours of pure gameplay videos showcasing it as well still boggles my fucking brain.
I never said that it gave Konami 179 million in the bank. I said that The Phantom Pain made 179 million on the first day. To believe that Konami still hasn't profited from the game's release is asinine.
I'd pay 60$ but ONLY, and only IF Kojima is not involved at all
This game has objectively better stealth gameplay and base/solider management mechanics, subjectively better level and boss design, and equally retarded stories
PO was also made in roughly a year while PW was supposed to be MGS5, so the fact that this game has some flaws is way more excuseable than the many many flaws PW has
You haven't played this game, stop bullshitting.
This game was made by the entire original metal gear team besides kojima, and while it's not nearly as good as metal gear 2 it's a way better game than the original metal gear, and it even has a bunch of mechanics like searchlights, interrogating guards, multiple areas instead of a singular base and the tradeoff between CQC/Knife that would go on to be in later solid games (and weren't in MG2)
This game is also the only reason metal gear wasn't a two game series that ended back in the late 80's because if this game wasn't made kojima would never have felt he needs to make more stealth games and would've just kept making adventure games like snatcher
Plus if Kojima is Huey he is a hack that get easily surpassed by Otacon and got fired from a place supposedly loved. Otacon makes a much better metal gear years later.
WHO IS OTACON IRL
You know, I'd really like to see the base and squad building taken further. More Compact, but more in-depth.
Like, after destroying Sahelantropus you got 6 S+++ soldiers that wouldn't look out of place in a Cobra Unit with Big Boss at the helm.
Now, MGS6 has you actually recruit and train an actual Cobra unit, with each character having stapple MG superpowers.
The Big Boss.
The Cyborg Ninja.
The Woman with many arms/tentacles.
The Big Guy (For you).
That guy with the revolvers.
The Batman, who jumps all over the place with grapple guns and pseudo-flight.
Konami seems like a company that just blindly follows trends at this point. AAA military games are doing well, so they push for MGSV with a fancy new engine. Then they see the low cost high profit model of mobile and pachinko and suddenly they're all about that, and canceling all the actual video games they had plans for. Now MGSV sells well, and suddenly there's rumors of MGS6. With the SNK owners pulling out of Pachinko stuff, I won't be surprised if similar shit happens with Konami.
Even if we do get Kojima back, along with MGS6 and Silent Hills, it's kind of hollow now as they've lost the trust of a lot of people. Not to mention there is so much rightful criticism for MGSV and that's gotta hurt in general.
Seriously though, considering how much money MGS must bring on merchandise alone, I can't see why they think fucking with its creator and development cycle was a good idea.
Only way I'll bother with a new MGS is if we have another writer to reign in Kojima's nonsense, and if it's an remake of the first two games or something that is actually about BB's decent into villainy. I'm actually still kinda insulted that we were given such retarded fucking reasoning for Kaz leaving Big Boss. MGS6 would need to fix that above all else.
All of these sources are missing one very critical piece of data. How much money did Konami spend advertising the game. They are, like us, just speculating on that aspect. The Phantom Pain had a modest ad campaign in Japan, and a near non existent campaign in America. Do any of you think that Konami shelled out over 60 million on advertising MGSV?
Konami have a deal with Vegas. They are pretty much going to have a monopoly on the gambling scene in Japan. They stand to make 80 billion dollars out of the deal. If the legislation goes through. It may already have. The CEO of Konami has been pushing for this for almost a decade.
Pretty much the only times I saw advertising was someone posting whatever trailer recently came out and some displays I saw at GameStop and Target. I don't even remember seeing a commercial for it.
Big Boss joins the US military again and forms FOXHOUND while secretly controlling Outer Heaven through Venom. You play as Solid Snake as he rises through the ranks to join the team. The final mission is
Operation Intrude N313.
>The newspaper adds that Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima, who is apparently on vacation, has not said whether or not he’ll be involved in the next title.
that's really true of any videogame base at this point. They are some of the most passive consumers in existence. From a market perspective the things that matter about a videogame are how cinematic/novel the first hour is (that's what all your reviews are going to be based on) and how pretty it looks since this is readily quantifiable and easy to bullshit about.
You sure you would not try it? Kojima as much as I hate to say it has achieved his dream and his fans nightmare of becoming in all but race a western video game designer/director.
You play as a one of the DIN-EH fighting alongside The Boss in WW2, with Code Talker and a young Major Zero providing intel.
Kojima is a good writer though, in the sense that it's stupid enough to be compelling, without being so stupid that it loses it's seriousness.
I don't think anyone Konami would set up would be able to do it right.
Kojima's not that unique in his writing style though. As much as I love the absurdly tacticool feeling of his game but it's hardly rare as far as japanese media is concerned. I do not believe it would be that hard to emulate or find someone who can do it well. It's the other elements of the game I'd be more concerned about. It's always been about little and unnecessary flourishes with him and I don't think anyone else would really put those in.
>Kojima is a good writer though
You have some low standards holy shit
What does this all mean for the PC version of Metal Gear. ONLINE?
you have to consider it in the context of what it is. If you gave kamen riders a plot written by Fyodor Dostoevsky it just would not work. It has a certain fit for the work that's not easy to make a value judgement on.
Just give me Etsu Tamari on the writing departament and i'm happy
I'd like to hear more about this. Sucks that Moe is down.
They shill all the time here. I can tell because the OP image is always the article header while the greentext is from the article.
I'm still convinced there is more to MGSV than what we see, and I'm not even talking about some missing DLC bullshit either. It took people years to really figure out the big picture of MGS2, and people reacted the same way to it as everyone is to MGSV.
And yet with all the stuff MGS2 tried to tell. Some of it was already done with other games, more on accident. Look how many people give other devs crap with trailers? Kojima was one of the few people trusted.
MGSV was just uninteresting in general while Kojima keeps on baiting PLENTY of concept better than the actual product.
It's more likely that they'd just keep MGSV's gameplay since it works well with Fox Engine. There's no way they could go back to the MGS1-3 style in a plausible way.