Behold, the only MMO today that's not WoW or Eve that still has a subscription fee and still getting new content and more subscribers.
How does /v/ feel about this?
Eh, it's not that good but there's not much better.
Healing is fun, like whack a mole except you're hitting people for being idiots.
I really wish the miqo'te are shit joke hadn't taken off, but so many people play them it can't be helped. Oh, and fuck all the furries for whining about nothing but demihuman races.
>Behold the only MMO today that's not WoW
Best crafting system in any MMO ever
Too bad red scrips killed it
Yeah, I run ct for glamours.
And by run I mean wait for and by glamours I mean HOURS.
Which is a shame because all of CT is damn fun. Amon is by far the most fabulous bastard in all of xiv.
I've waited this long for Black Desert and I can continue to wait until its release. Alpha looked fucking amazing. It will be BtP like GW2.
But keep having fun, you guys have some good stories. I don't make enough for the monthly subscription to be worth not having something like prime or netflix
Well, mmo's are shit anyway. Especally these days. Not like they have been much better. Never liked the thing of having almost literally mmo life and real life and some people treating the mmo stuff like real jobs when they live in a dump lol
Yes because modern MMO's make their end-game linear, and FF14's combat/stats does not allow for variation.
FF11 you had side-grades; you could get different items for different builds and make different combinations work.
In FF14 you get upgrades at the highest dungeon and then you have to wait...
Progression is fucking boring this way.
Are there any other MMOs that are good to play with a controller? I really like how in FFXIV that I can chill on my couch and play with a controller, or sit down at a desk and play with a keyboard+mouse. They both work very well.
I like it but some shit takes way too much time for someone with a job and studying.
I currently have PLD and BSM at 50, and some others around 30 (WHM,WAR,CNJ) but leveling crafting classes is either too easy if you have a shitload of money or incredibly dull if you're piss poor, and with piss poor I mean having less than at least 2 million gil.
Also, which crafting classes are worth it other than BSM and Armorer? I mean, for a Tank at least.
Forget FFXI then, go back to Asherons Call, Everquest, Ultima..literally any old-school MMO.
There were a bunch of end-game dungeons and each had different items for people to mess around with.
This game is so shit.
Behold, the expansion that killed end game and caused many of my friends including myself to stop playing until 3.1.
Raid is challenging. WoW raid is easy and boring woth add-ons.
There's PVP. Being bad at it doesn't make it unexistant.
Have you tried to play something else that suits your playstyle? I don't know, maybe something more casual and not challenging at all? yeah, go for it.
>mocking someone for expecting there to be something to do in an mmo
I don't need a video game to act as a chat room, anon. I'm more than capable of speaking to people without FFXIV's aid
Itemization plays a huge part in why this game sucks.
Where's the rush in spending weeks getting a new weapon or new armor piece to raise your primary stats 0.5%?
All old school mmos had unique "must have" items that you wanted to farm for because they made such a huge difference.
That's too hard to balance around so now everything is the same.
>FF11 you had side-grades; you could get different items for different builds and make different combinations work.
Not really, nigga. I mean, you could, but people would shit talk you for not going with the traditional build or using the "right" sub. I stopped playing PLD because no one wanted a PLD without NIN sub, but I fucking hated playing NIN and I could hold hate fine with WAR sub.
The only class I played that was really really open to experimentation was BRD. BRD was my favorite class by far and I subbed just about everything on it. Still, based on your class you build toward your strengths. The only reason BRD was so malleable is because the dominant stat was CHR, which even years later I've barely been able to find any reputable information to determine what in the fuck CHR even does since so many of the buffs are essentially un-quantifiable.
I want to play XI again but the servers are empty and I have no one to play with anymore. I just wish it would go FtP with microtransactions for exp buffs or something.
FFXIV is bot and buy gil or go home.
They do absolutely nothing to stop botting and RMT. The moment you log in you are spammed to hell by chinks. I'd bet money that gold farmers make up around 40% of the game's player base.
If you play during the AM hours you can find people running bots on their main accounts in a blatantly obvious manner all over the place.
Also the community is absolute cancer. Elitist Turbo-weebs galore.
The game is horse shit.
>FFXIV's is so boring that its players spend more time alt tabbed out shitposting on /v/ while waiting for their GCD than actually playing
I know it may be hard for you to understand, but I was mocking him because he's an ignorant fuck (just like you).
Theres a lot of content. Been playing since 1.0 and playing everyday and I'm still completing stuff from 2.0.
It's his/your fault to skip content, and it's your/his fault to not understand what a MMORPG is.
>derp derp, what should I do after raid!? omg this game sucks, gimme moar itamz plz, I need some guide to do shit
>How do I MMORPG?
>What is this thing called "quests"?
>What is this thing called "PVP"? Please make it easier, it's too hard!
>Triple Triad? Rules are too hard to understand!
>Chocobo Racing? it's too hard!
I bet you don't even have a house because you're a stupid casual.
As I told the rest; go play your shooters, casual crap.
They probably do try to stop it, they're just not very efficient. XI had the same problem for years. It made the economy incredibly unstable and fucked.
There were several times where I basically had to buy gold because as a support there was no way for me to make the money I needed just to get by because any crafting I did was being done a thousand times over by chinks and every mob was camped to hell and back. Even getting shit like Lizzie was impossible for regular people.
SE banned thousands of accounts and the problem persisted. They just made new accounts.
Is the GCD an issue for you? Is it too hard for you to make a good rotation?
Aaaaaw, look at him, it's his first true MMORPG! It's ok if you don't know when to land skills between GCD! Just don't play this game and go play something easier :)
Is this satire?
If not, you need to calm down and stop posting, homie.
pld was shit outside of tanking anyway.
There were much more fun classes like RDM, RNG, SAM, NIN; who could all mix and match shit. Grinding for merits was one of these places you could do shit like SAM/RNG, or RDM/RNG.
You should go in to a private server and pick up a Kraken club on a RDM/RNG.
That shit was fucking fun. I would en-spell; buff up and fucking spam sidewinder every time it was up.
blade and soul is the best mmo atm
Fuck, that RDM/RNG with Kraken combo sounds disgusting.
I've never tried to get into private servers. I know /v/ had one set up a while ago but it lasted like 2 weeks before everyone got bored.
I have 4-5 friends interested in playing it but turned off by the fact that there's still a monthly fee. Might try to actually look into them then.
>implying MMO's are not for casuals
I wish you only knew how many people play as bad as casuals. Hard for me to say they play enough to be hardcore or anything.
>implying I even play shooters
I do play them a little bit. They're less time wasting than MMO's which is quite comfy.
> not mentioning the most competitive genre
Get out, filth.
Human Ninja reporting in. I 100% agree. Catfags are cancer, and Lalafell are too unless they are being little Isidro punkasses.
next expansion, which should be in about a year due to Yoshi's comment about wanting to have yearly expansions. Unless the entire dev team takes yet another group vacation together, then add a few months on it.
Blizz have now stopped reporting subscriber numbers, and both WoW and Eve allow you to buy gametime with IG currency, I think he was just trying to compare it to the likes of TOR/Wildstar, shit that launched as P2P but ended up becoming F2P.
Not him, but can you blame anyone with this mindset? MMO's have content so goddamn fucking backwards it hurts. The majority of your time is spent playing what is essentially a single player MMO in an open world that requires insane dev resources to make/keep running, and when it does become time to actually play with other people, you are instanced into a zone no different than running a level in Diablo with a group. There is zero reason for MMO maps to be as big as they are, because it is all basically made as a single player experience in a genre that markets itself as a multiplayer focused game. So god forbid people want to skip what should essentially be the "solo tutorial" portion of their $60+$15/m game and get into playing with the rest of the world just for there to BE nothing to play once you get there.
I'm not claiming I have any solid answers as opposed to simply ideas on how to rectify this, but making the "leveling" experience (solo questing, ect) instanced sequences to teach you how to play your role in a group setting of NPCs and cutting the leveling time to hitting max level by a huge amount in exchange for more open world group content and end game dungeons would do wonders to improving the genre as a whole.
>semendemons, male and female
Angry as fuck but won't say it
ERPing horsecock futa
>giraffes and catgirls
they already did concept art and shown it off earlier this year during one of the FATE in Tokyo deals, which means they're already looking to just do their routine of ripping models from past FFs and calling it a day, while fans pay for more fantasias. From the concepts, it just looks like repurposed Miquote, which is just the standard for XIV at this point with races.
Also doesn't help that with Aura, they couldn't keep their own ideas straight with it, since it went from "Dragon Half" to "Oh wait, we got an expansion set in a kill dragons on sight location, so now they're part demon!"
The game got stale quick after HW since they not only didn't introduce anything new and longlasting but they also removed a part of the content of the formula they used for the past 2 years.
How i feel about it? Disappointed because i never thought i'd get bored of a WoW clone with a FF skin to it, but i did, after playing since Beta 3, i quit 2 months ago.
>mfw returning after Heavensward
God damn, I love this game. I think I'm gonna love playing only around patches.
The only sad thing about this is that WildStar is better than WoW and FF but they fucked it up so bad that they had to go f2p.
>How can you fuck up daily quests so bad
>How can you make reputation grinding even worse than classic wow
>How can you not fix gamebreaking bugs for over a month
Luckily EVE is getting better with every addon
jesus fucking christ
at least record yourself having a decent idea what you're doing
man wildstar is so fucking fun
I mean just look at how much fun I am having
I'd really like something for MNK right about now, but it doesn't look like it'll get the tiniest bit of synergy with anything useful, since PLD will never be used over DRK again simply because of how boring it is.
My static is trying to get me to main NIN but it's so fucking boring and I don't wanna, and it doesn't help that I have full fucking Gordian on it, when nothing drops on MNK.
>Game doesnt even have working PvP
This is just a coop game with shit gameplay, hence why I quit.
FF Shills need to just off themselves already.
>no open world pvp
>no guild vs guild pvp
Thats why lots of people jump this ship onto other shitty ships like GW2, because they at least have some PvP content that every MMO should have.
I just don't understand why NIN fits in the meta, max DPS group when it's the most fucking dull, and MNK is for babbymode groups bringing PLDs and waiting for months upon months of Eso.
>Make a WoW clone
>Sprinky it with shoehorned references the majority of WoW players wont get
>Pretend it's Final Fantasy
Genius, or talentless hack?
He's a genius.
Heavensward is the best Final Fantasy game made in years
FFXIV is not a good game but a fucking TTTTTEEERRRIIIBBBLLEEE MMORPG with the emphasis on the word "RPG".
The main questline is forced and you go through the areas very linearly. Everyone ends up using the same items for each phase of the game, there's no proper random upgrading or loots. It's just static as fuck.
Sure it takes skill, strategy and planning to beat some of the harder raids, but the entire reason I play MMORPGs is the FREEDOM of exploring, doing quests when you feel like it, yoloing to high level areas just to see what it's like, trying out different builds and so on. FFXIV offers none of this, it's a linear & static singleplayer Final Fantasy game with some multiplayer in it. Fuck I even feel bad calling it "MMORPG". It's sooo damn static.
>open world pvp
Classes are too unbalanced for 1v1. It'd be cool to have an option to challenge a light/full party leader to a battle with a party of the same amount anywhere, but that wouldn't work out. Maybe if they had designated sparring ground.
>guild vs guild
Wolves Den is so barren, you could probably enter 2 light parties at the same time and get matched up instantly.
XIV is a teamwork MMO, the furthest any class strays from the trinity is SCH.
Is fun to level up. Then you get to max level and cant do anything, cuz the fucking game is too punishing for people in dungeons. One dps fucks up, and the whole thing goes to shit.
Vanilla vanilla did some fun, uninstanced content, and I'm hoping airship exploration is even the slightest bit like it
They really need to do something about CT. It's impossible to get a damn Q. Maybe if they make a weekly as soon as 3.1 hits that requires you to do Void Ark and two other 24 mans or something.
Do it, fag
I did it not too long ago and pretty much made it all back after a while
There's very little reason to stockpile gil (outside of hardcore endgame raiding in a static that can't/won't feed or meld shit for its members).
Save up/buy what you want. Minions, glamour, whatever. Just leave enough to teleport around until you can make more.
ARR did uninstanced content too with fates and hunts
>In one interview, he has stated that his favorite Final Fantasy game is Final Fantasy VII and that he wants to make an MMO as "powerful" as that game was
This fucking guy.
I think the worst of it will be extending the cooldown for emergency tactics. Having both ET and Indomitability on the same cooldown gives a 700 potency AoE heal every 30s, if you've got the stacks to burn.
Biggest problem XIV has and any other future MMO will have is that there will be too many people trying to do things the most efficient way. They will forgo fun in an effort to cut down on the time it will take to get their desired items/status. Once their goal is achieved, they won't bother to do that shit ever again.
Use it when your Healer isn't a bitch and won't cry about how healing you is too hard because you're not in Tank Defiance.
Which should be all the time. If the Healer can't keep you alive with Deliverance on then they're a shit Healer, plain and simple.
I don't get why comparing it to a company that doesn't give a fuck about their playerbase is somehow an excuse to 5 months of 1 raid with 4 bosses and 2 endgame instances with no challenge at all.
Boring, if you play SCH. It got a bit more interesting after HW, but it's gonna take another expansion to feel independent from SCH.
MNK is the most satisfying DPS to play, but it makes you realise how frustrating it is when the tank moves around a lot.
I've cleared up to A2 in 2 weeks and got tired of raiding 20 hours a week hitting a boss that has nothing difficult going for it apart for the overtuned hp and damage checks. Getting tired of raiding that one boss 5 times a week quickly exposed the extreme lack of things to do in the game, as if you take out the ONE boss i was progressing on (which it really was not fun) there was fuck all to do, so i quit, together with the rest of my static and another 5 friends.
I have been keeping up to date with 3.1 but i do not expect to come back as the content they'll put out will get boring in a week due to how extremely easy it is, as with the rest of the uneven patches since launch.
Now here's hoping my PT won't notice I've forgotten.
>tanks blaming DPS for stolen aggro
The calling card of a salty tank. The DPS' goal should be to steal aggro by pumping out as much damage as possible and shaming the tank by taking non-aoe damage.
Not him, but I've cleared savage.
1/2 are braindead now, 3 is fun, and 4 is the worst designed raid encounter I've seen in years. 4 encounters is not enough for a good difficulty curve, right now we have a sharp increase in difficulty from 2 to 3, that has made several statics/players just quit or stop giving a fuck. We need more bosses, and we need more raids to actually have more stuff to do BEFORE the boss. There's not enough here for another 4-5 months.
Let me put things into perspective for you anon:
As of now SCH has the following to their disadvantage:
>largest MP costs in game for healers on all spells, specifically the healing ones
>lower potencies across the board
>fairy is 20% of your stats
>selene buff is now 3% instead of 5%
>worst aoe healing due to whispering dawn being essentialy nerfed
Their advantages of course, circumvent this in various ways, such as having the best single target healing, best mp management, best healer dps and being able to handle any aoe damage that doesn't come in crazy amounts or using cooldowns to deal with the aoe damage through shields and mitigation. however if you nerf any of those things you pretty much put sch in the same position ast was in a while back: underpowered.
Not to mention that it also affects smn if you nerf anything else aside from healing which they already have miniscule amounts of due to getting all their healing spells from the job quest.
Tldr, SCH is where it has to be right now and no its not overpowered just mecessary. The real problem lies in AST being exactly like WHM in diurnal mode while Nocturnal mode is more like an underpowered SCH, and not because of lack of healing power, but rather a lack of the fairy and instant heals which circumvent the lower potencies. You literally have to cast nocturnal helios with helios and both have cast times as opposed to sch who can just go indomitability.
I won't lie if SE nerfs SCH any further its gonna be hard for me to continue playing this hame because they are literaly on the verge of being useless.
>"I'm so good"
>"I got bored because I'm so good"
>"I quit because we got stuck on a fight that was bullshit, not even hard"
>"I'm not coming back because I know it's going to be easy, because I'm so good"
Behold, the only MMO to survive more than 18 years with a subscription fee.
On my second month now, its a great game.
I quit WoW shortly after Cata released and haven't touched an MMO since then until now.
>tfw going through story and find an NPC in southern Thannalan that looks very similar to my character
Everything i said was shared among the top tier FC's and you probably know that, but in your blind addiction to this shitty game you fail to see what i said is backed by most raiders.
With that said, you touched one point of my post and proceeded to try and ridicule it, i don't expect drones to come to terms with the truth, but there is fuck all to do in the game, and the few things that ARE there to do, are either old content for relics that will be obsolete in a patch soon (not 3.1 cuz lol they delayed relics again) or straight up tedious after 5 months.
Prove me wrong with an actual entertaining thing to do that you have not done a thousand times already and/or is challenging, go ahead, i'll wait.
would you look at that, one just showed up
shame the tank left
Raiding in this game isn't that hard but the majority of players have their head up their fucking ass and if you try to join a better group or FC, they'll tell you that you don't have the experience they want but it's hard to get it when you get yet another caster that does mid 800DPS til you wipe to Hand of Pain or the tank that can't run back in a line and gives everyone atrophy.
It's not fun.
Better answer. I agree with your assessment. More bosses and an actual middle ground content are desperately needed. Hopefully the island thing will help, but I suspect it's just going to be hunts by another name.
Look at the end of this video and tell me your game isnt bleeding subs. They're resulting in lying to get people to play.
"Come play with over 5 million people that dont exist!"
Nice joke yoshi-p
I wouldn't hold my breath for difficult airship exploration, since the last 2 difficult things they introduced outside of hardcore raiding were pharos sirius and steppes of faith, and they're both nerfed to hell after the cryout.
This'll go the same way.
>want to get into savage alex
>can't join groups cause you don't have the experience they say
>can't get experience since nobody lets you in
The main thing that's different about exploratory ventures is that they're already separated by difficulty levels, and the highest difficulty level gives raid ilvl gear. If they do make even the highest difficulty faceroll, then it just becomes another catchup mechanic like hunts instead of its own content. I hope that isn't the case.
>Le gdc meme
It's still faster than WoW. The ammount of out-cd skills is so big WoW seems a slow-mo game near FFXIV.
If you find achievement in the exclusivity of old raid drops, then yes.
Undersized made it so much easier to grind for glamourable dungeon items, which is essentially all I use it for.
Well, that and running AV at ilvl 200 out of spite.
If you had war sub and an aegis I could understand wanting to sub warrior. Otherwise if you were just your average run of the mil PLD without nin sub you were a MP sponge piece of garbage gtfo.
>what is cure cheat
>what are gear swaps
>what is fast cast gear
Just fuck off plz.
Confirmed for not even being max level or doing any content. The game does suck cock but by far and wide gil is a useless commodity. The only thing you use gil for is buying housing and maybe materia whenever they decide to put the new relic quest line in next year. Hell, you wont even be able to meld tier 5 materia to raid armor until 3.2 which is probably another 6 months away anyways.
>minimum ilvl AV
I wasn't there for launch, how bad was the locksmith for healers in 2.0?
I just subbed this week. Pretty fun so far, but the character building/customization is really bare. UI customization is pretty rad though.
Then fucking make a party for people like yourself who want to get that experience by actually learning the encounters together instead of wanting to be a lazy shit getting carried through.
Grats on your useless house.
Grats on your useless cardgame.
Grats on your copy paste quests.
Grats on your shitty pointless chocobo races.
Grats on your pointless glamour PVP gear and mass hoard of people running around the map "PVPing" eachother.
Grats on your 4 raid bosses every 6+ months at a time.
Did I cover everything?
>abloobloobloo our dps is so low abloobloobloo
>every static group still has one despite their dps being lower than others
Yes, it's almost as if the job is populated with ADD ridden fuckheads who only played it because it was easy as fuck.
>still getting new content
Lol no its not.
It has no endgame.
Its a casual boring shitfest with a 2.5 second global so the mentally slow weeabos can react to whatever the fuck shit happens in the raid bosses.
Any shitstain can get into the raids and clear them so in return actual seasoned and experimented players get to see what kind of shithole SE caters to.
Gated content i.e. you cna't get into the fucking expansion without having cleared the main story questline, which means, good luck making a new alt lmao.
4 bosses every tier, ONLY FUCKING FOUR BOSSES, THERE IS NO MINIBOSSES, and every boss fight is instanced, there is no "raid" in reality, since every boss fight is in an independent room.
8 months for more 4 bosses, yay... not.
15 dollar sub for this piece of casual shit, no thank you, Wildstar is F2P,new ACTUAL raiding tier coming out soon, and SWTOR just had a new expansion, and if that is not your thing, WoW legion is coming out soon, all of this, is MILLIONS OF FUCKING YEARS BETTER THAN THAT PIECE OF SHIT
please for the love of god up secure to level 60 that's the only thing I fucking ask.
I'm not your friend stop saying that
You offer Paeon, Ballad and Foes.
You do your damage from far away, which is much safer. I've done 3 melee A3S runs and some mechanics are a fucking moshpit.
I do feel tanks are doing a tad too much damage, but with the amount of DPS required for enrages, you still can't really bring in 6 tanks and stomp through it, you need a balanced group.
If you want to be top DPS with the easiest job while supporting everyone from the back lines, you're gonna be sorely disappointed.
>THERE IS NO MINIBOSSES
ADS and Faust, but yeah they barely count even though they're their respective shitter check. Two whole mini bosses out of all the turns are the exception rather than the norm, there's far more mindless filler trash.
Split the job into Dancer and Hunter.
Dancer is a support class and requires both MNK and BRD to unlock, Hunter is a combination mobile and caster DPS and requires BLM and BRD.
Lol, this kid. If you actually had played an MMO before FF14, actual MMOs had 1 second long globals, not 2.5 globals. FF14 is not a "true" mmo, its the most casual piece of shit in the market. If you want to know wha thard is go play Wildstar kid lol, you're gonna quit Wildstar cause you wont even be able to cleare dthe low level dungeons, guarranteed.
>do expert roulette on MNK
>WAR is a cool guy, big pulls, big damage
>WHM never nukes, is talking to the DRG he joined with all fight
>multiple emoticons every sentence
>DRG is afk, auto following the WHM for at least half the dungeon
>reach the end of the run
>WHM: wow, fast run, nice work everyone :)
I hate this game. I don't want to do expert roulette anymore
Couldn't they just reduce the cast time on Bard skills when using Minuet to buff it? Maybe they could just buff the base damage of their skills a tiny bit. There's no reason to get rid of Minuet itself.
>i'm as mobile as a black mage
No, you're still far more mobile than a blm which you'd know if you actually learned to play your job correctly instead of bitching on the internet but you'd never fucking do that anyway so who cares it's not like you're going to get kicked from your next 24man for afk autoattacking each boss.
Dancer would be an eventual Rogue support job or healer because the current animations et fits it better and Dancer in FFXI was a melee healer who used dual daggers.
"Hunter" was never a thing in Final Fantasy lore. Just make it Bard and Ranger, both classic Final Fantasy jobs with clear play styles.
The player base in the game is dogshit. It mayority (as you can see in this thread, and by mayority i mean really 98% of it) is comprised of shitstains that HAD NEVE RTOUCHED AN MMO BEFORE. They come to FF14 and the only way you can not be succesfull here is to have downs, so they raid, they clear and they think they're good, when FF14 raiding is the biggest joke in the market.
Why do XIV shills try their hardest to shill this trash?
>tfw the Euro servers sucked the life out of your NA server
I miss my Euro bros.
Why do WoW shills try their hardest to shill this trash?
Krile a cute! A CUTE!
I want to hug her and pat her head over her fake cat ears.
FF14 shitposted itself kid.
>being so delusional
>he never played wow arenas
>even swtor pvp is better than this
>assumes i tried ff14 pvp only once and implies that ppv is somehow "hard"
You have no fucking clue kid
WM bard is actually less mobile than BLM. Their movement skills, repelling shot and aetherial manipulation are different in that the bard's skill can send them in one direction, possibly to their death, and the BLM's skill can send them in any direction and towards a party member in a safe zone.
>WoW subs are at an all time low
>FFXIV subs are rising
the amount of salt is astounding.
Nah. Their DPS is fine for the support they offer and range they have. There's a reason everybody wants Bards in raids. If you want to do better damage then play a true pure DPS.
You're not going to be the class that has good support AND top dps. Just give that mary sue shit up.
I played WoW from vanilla to the end of WotLK, I've checked back in periodically, it was fantastic for awhile, but it's absolute garbage now and needs to just let go.
XIV at the moment is better in ways, worse in others.
WoW has the fucking dumbest rotations in any MMO right now, ability pruning was the worst thing to happen, the only thing WoW has going for it is world PvP.
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I have no interest in MMOs, but good for Squeenix that they have a constantly working cash cow, I guess. A bunch of my online acquaintances seem to be playing it nonstop.
I can tell that I'm going to be seeing a lot of those cat-ear hoods as glamours.
How is Faust a shitter check? My group literally week one, we had shit dps, and we just kited for 10 seconds at the end to kill it, literal 2 shot, week 1, hour 1 even.
The reason why Faust is considered a shitter check is because of the casual shitstain of an MMO this game is and the casual weeabo shitter audience it caters to.
The game literally puts you on a 2,5 global, so you can fuckin greact.
In A4, any add spawn, literally SITS THERE FOR 7 SECONDS, not doing shit, completely immobile, waiting for the slow ass shit weeabo tank to react and pick it up, and dps as well.
Like, the game is fuckjing AWFUL and anybody that defends it, is because:
1) never played an MMO before therefore you fucking BLOW
2) you're a weeabo and a casual
3) you're slow on the fucking brain
>b-b-but u can use offglobal abilities between globals!!!! youre bad if you dont do that its even faster then wow !!!! ; ;;;;;
Fuck off, lmfao, every MMO has fucking off global abilities, except FF14 ois the only moonrune piece of shti MMO that has a 2.5s global, WoW had shittons of offglobal abilties on a 1 second global, keep defending your shit kids, you're only fooling yourself
BRD and DRG are literally the retard jobs, god it would be fucking hilarious if there was anything that required silencing again just to see how many of them would panic.
The cast times are shorter than the GCD you fuckskull, BRD/MCH cast times are 1.5 seconds or lower with ss and the GCD is 2.5 seconds or lower.
>still doing story mode
For what purpose?
You got the shit you needed for savage within the first 4 weeks and law/eso is more than enough for anything until 2.2 patch if you're not doing savage and by then you'll have 210 eso anyway.
So we have a MMO thread?
Good, so let me bitch about Wurm Online.
It's not because game is shit, but because that game has a potential, maybe at last used as Wurm Unlimited was released.
What's wrong with this Wurm Online?
Grind, but Runescape has that as well and it isn't that bad with all these fun quests around (at least for oldschool one).
It allows players to use their in-game money to buy premium time, which allows them to raise their skills over 20, so they can make advanced items and of higher quality.
Thing is that this system makes free players dig up 10 000 units of dirt (timer for one digging action being around 10-15 seconds, 41 hours in worst case) or making thousand of stone bricks and planks, which are worth more, but can fuck up the crafting and produce no item, so you have to double the amount of actions made (yes, around with 10 seconds timer). All that work for month worth of silver coins.
So it's fine if you just buy premium with Euros and you go to enjoy the game, but at lower levels, if you want some coins for better tools, you're going to compete with free players who agree to work for low pay (even Rolf admitted that pay for these jobs are low).
New one actually looks worse.
Now thats a feat.
Stealing aggro from a tank with pure dps is basically putting them in their place.
Stealing aggro by attacking an unmarked enemy or pulling, however, has the opposite effect.
Basically, aim to steal aggro. If you do, the tank isn't doing their job, and you're doing them a favour by pointing out that they need improvement.
I've played all MMORPGs actually, even Wild Star.
Wild Star has an artificial difficulty. Even a kid would know that low quality difficulty, wich is boring.
And since when GCD is a bad thing when there are skills outside GCD? Is that really hard for you?
Are you top DPS?
How is your Overhealing?
Are you a good tank with a good DPS?
Cry me a river, casual.
Show me your FFXIV name. Let's see your world PVP rank.
Go to your shooters, casual. I don't like RPing, I just like to do all the content, and that's why I'm better than you at anything.
Lick my balls, filthy MMOjumper.
Grats on your meaningless life.
You missed the lore and story (it's not a MMO, it's a MMORPG, dumbfuck), you missed the gathering and crafts, you missed pets and mounts.
I bet you don't even own all pets, and I bet you're crying because you'll be fucking useless at Lord of Verminion. I can even taste your tears from here, you casual fuck.
I play everyday and I'm still doping content. You're just mad because your limited brain thinks about raid and items only.
It's your choice to play alone. I always do dungeons with friends, and always level together with friends or doing FATES, wich are open-world. There are hunts, too.
And on 3.1 we will get the exploration islands wich are open world, too.
Remember this game came from 1.0, and 2.0 was a success but there was still work to be done.
Just take a look what endgame will look like in 3.1 with this new endgame mechanic (isle exploratrion drops ilvl210+). Raiding is getting old already and I'm glad it's just an option.
Other generic MMOs endgames are just based on boring raids.
>all jobs maxed
>full esoteric gear/alexander savage gear so no need for esoteric (unless wanna level second job)
>know entire A3savage fight
>static sucks dick
>clear with a different group
>static gets butthurt breaks up
>don't want to raid anymore because of the drama/finding a new group
>dont need eso/money
theres nothing to do in this game. the new content was just catchup content for bad players
Tell me about DRG, /v/. I'm thinking of picking up the expansion and coming back. I leveled SMN/SCH to 50 last year but I kind of want to try melee DPS this time around. How fun is it these days?
Thats kinda standard for such a system though, isnt it?
All the mmos that use that like EVE or WoW make these subscriber items kinda off limits for low level characters.
If you think the game is good then maybe its worth it to buy the sub for a month or two. Helps support the game anyways.
I cant say anything about its quality because I havent tried it. I just played the old Wurm a little bit.
>I am the compile heart audience
feels good man
Do you have a desire to stand in every single aoe?
Do you think having a 10% damage buff isn't worth keeping up?
Do you prefer lying on the floor instead of hitting the boss?
Do you want to win all the loot while being dead for 95% of the fights?
If you answered yes to any of these questions then DRG is the job for you!
DRG got some nice changes in 2.X to make their jumps and what not as sucky as it was. Not too sure how they are in 3.X but thanks to their level 60 skill they are much wanted in end game content and are essential for world first progression
The crit buff is 52, their lvl 60 skill is just making the positional for their 58 skill RNG.
1) stop being a faggot
2) charisma increased duration , increased chance too hit, and to some extent dmg or effect of the song. Knew this shit 12 years ago, how do you not know now.
Just because waaaaaah I couldn't play a sub par tank/sub doesn't mean it didn't have malleability. Look at dat BLU or SMN that had 8 sets of gear just to be cool....XI and SWG had it right
>I've played all MMORPGs actually, even Wild Star.
>Wild Star has an artificial difficulty. Even a kid would know that low quality difficulty, wich is boring.
Typical casual shitstain, that got SHIT ON oin wildstar, and comes crying and say "its not even hard it sjust frustrating"
>le offgcds between globals!!! tghe game is not slow its hard cuz u have to press cds between globals its hard"!!!! iswear ; ;
>carin about pvp rank
You're literally, what I describe, you started with babies first MMO, ff14, and think you have somehow an opinion. lmfoa
>he thinks hes not a casual
>for some reason does dungeons at this point in the game
>calls the exploration in 3.1 "endgame"
>calls wildstar boring and "low quality difficulty"
LMFAO, just kill yourself please. You're the saddest most delusional moonrune casual shitstain i've ever seen
I'm not sure why people praise this game. The leveling experience is cool being story oriented and all but I always felt alone and when I partied up with people it was a hi bye type of ordeal and god forbid someone wanted to actually play with you after with cross realm instanced dungeons.
I firmly believe now if you play MMOs especially this game you are refusing to let go of the past or have no taste in vidya.
Game is hard on newbies. I have great trouble finding weak creatures like cows or dogs(but maybe that's just my shitty luck), which are only creatures newbies can handle.
In most times I find trolls, giant spiders and giant scorpions from hell itself plus occasional black wolf that I can defeat while losing nearly half of health and just thanks to two handed sword of really good quality I bought cheaply.
Grind is other thing, because it takes nearly a autistic dedication to have something big done and THEN to have it maintained so it won't collapse to shit.
Arent there some guides that show you where you're supposed to go as a beginner?
And I think the crafting aspect works best in a group.
I heard stories of a /v/ guild building something huge out of shitty F2P bricks.
I want this to be Square's last MMO game.
XI was good, had the feel of Final Fantasy, which is more than can be said about XIV.
But I think I'd prefer it if they stayed single player.
People seem to be obsessed with numbers in this game, is it autism?
>People seem to be obsessed with numbers in this game, is it autism?
Its an MMO. Numbers are the only way people have to track their progression and think that the time they've wasted has any meaning.
Game's okay, overrated by drones but still fun and worth playing, more so than other MMOs I've tried (TERA, Wildstar, WoW, ArcheAge, B&S)
The content drought at the moment is real, two dungeons and four raid bosses is pretty depressing as far as an endgame goes, however A3S is absurdly fun if you get yourself into a good group.
Needs more uninstanced content, which it's apparently getting in 3.1 with airship exploration, might be cool.
Give it a try, 2.5 GCD isn't an issue at endgame because of the way off GCDs work, because of procs, because of Huton/GL3, etc., stop fanboying it because it's not amazing, it's just better and a bit more polished than what's out there.
You do realize like, one of the main points of rpgs is to obsess over numbers, right?
Saying someone is obsessed with the numbers when talking about rpgs is seriously a moot point.
Based Yoshi-P, saving Final Fantasy one budget at a time.
Can someone tell me why monks are so underrated? You'd think they'd be good, since they provide: the highest single target DPS, Dragon kick in a magic damage environment, great tp management for long as dick fights.
but nah, people are riding battle litanies dick so hard that they bring in a bard to ride the dragoons dick, causing them to bring a BLM and ninja to ride the bards dick
its fucking retarded, run monk and machinist, not "dropped my mudra" ninja and "weaker than warrior but inflates the BLM a bit" bard
Someone complaining about someone's DPS being 50hit points lower than normal sounds like autism.
Wouldn't expect anything less from secondaries who got into Final Fantasy through XIV though.
>stop fanboying it because it's not amazing, it's just better and a bit more polished than what's out there.
Its not better than wildstar lol. Tera combat is still better than FF14, but Tera is old and is not a japanese game. The game is not good, lol.
I just got my first 60 today. Kinda want to wait for my friend to get there before tackling the next dungeon.
The idea is, for example you need an overall 6100 DPS to clear A3S before the enrage.
If you're at 6000 and someone is 100 lower than they should be at their gear level, you have a problem.
I want an image of all the recycled content in this game excluding stuff that are meant to be throwbacks like the Gael kittens.
You know what? fuck it. I'll make it myself.
Then I'll play a "guess the budget" game.
People keep thinking the mentality for world first progression is the only efficient way to handle end game progression.
As a MNK, you're worse for the whole team than a DRG. But right now everyone is overgeared so it doesn't make a difference if your team is not 100% ideal.
This is NA people though. Don't see this stuff at all in JP servers.
Literally every jRPG in existence reuses enemy models and as an MMORPG FFXIV has to produce more models than single-player jRPGs.
If your friend will take a few days, try do some A and S mob hunting for Seals and Tomestones of Law. Will let you not have to grind away too much for decent gear once you friend catches up.
Make sure to include everything 1.0.
Lol what? Are you stupid?
BRD heavy shot, refresh dot, straight shot bloodletter proc
DRG chaos trust,full trust, jumps
MNK, side combo, rear combo
SMN Dots, fester, akh morn
BLM Fire 3 fire 4 rregen mana repeat
WAR: Storms eye, storms path, butchers, devlierance when 5 stacks
DRK Delirium Combo Souleater combo
Prepping a global for an add spawn or pulling cds due to the boss jumping/being targeted by shit, etc, ¨does not mena you still follow a rotation bro. Of course you dont know this because this is your first MMO, if you had played DAoC, WoW, SWTOR, Rift, Wildstar, you would know what im tlaking about.
MNK is now underrated because DRK being the ideal main tank over PLD, so our INT debuff can be covered by the DRKs.
NIN offers Trick Attack which goes a long way.
It isn't a DRG we get replaced by, as they're 100% guaranteed a spot, it's NIN we compete with.
An equally geared MNK if he's good enough can match a NINs damage over the course of a fight, but a NIN will always be better at burst phases because they can trivialize them with Trick Attack.
As a MNK main I'm mulling over moving to NIN, I'll probably change if MNK doesn't get anything else to actually synergize with any other job.
Godspeed anon, be prepared for the typical THEY'RE NOT THE SAME NOTICE THE VERY MINOR DIFFERENCES and the classic EVERY FINAL FANTASY HAS RECOLORS THIS IS NOTHING NEW SO IT'S ACCEPTABLE
Guides exist, but you still have to deal with grind, lack of weak animals and abudance of strong monsters.
Free players can build guard towers out of bricks, but cannot build actual houses, you need 30 masonry for that.
And that guild didn't last, I visited their deed on Xanadu and nobody was there.
Indeed, it works best in group, but it rarely happens that band of noobs join together, usually they just join existing villages with rich guys in it to do some menial jobs to get these 10 silvers for premium.
>Almost no outGCD skills
>Have to wait 1 second for each skill
>Every job has a fuckton of outGCD skills
>After every GCD skill you have to use a out GCD skill so you are never waiting in between 2GCD's
Coming back to wow after 5 months of FFXIV made me think about how wrong I was when I thought WoW was faster because of the lower GCD. Is not the GCD what makes a game faster, is the ammount of instant out GCD skills and FFXIV wins by far.
>battle litany alone makes you worse for the whole team
jesus fuck, this is what i mean.
What about bringing the most DPS in DPS-checks and enrages the raids?
meanwhile if you dont hit an 8-man litany you essentially just wasted it, enjoy using litany any time the party is split up
>everyone argues about how WoW has a 1 second GCD
>it's actually 1.5
>people don't know because nobody plays other MMOs outside of their "main" but will defend it online
this has to stop
I always call people out on it. Those pulsework knights you see in XIV have no reason to lock up like they do in XIII because this game has no stagger mechanic.
Don't know whether to make multiple images or contain it in one with all the comparisons.
F2P games become irrelevant after 1-3 years. Take a look at DFO, Vindictus, any F2P. They are flavor of the month for 75% of the userbase until the next shiny new F2P comes out.
Pepsi Man's animations are from Glasya, his hand form is a copy paste of Magitek Death Claws. First boss is a Ravana copy paste, second boss is a copypaste of AV's Cyclops and last boss is just a Gryphon copypaste. 90% of HW's "new" content is copypasta.
They've been doing this shit since 2.0, 1.0 at least had the decency of making new animations and entirely new HD models of mobs that use their FFXI designs.
Yoshida is just a big faggot hack.
>tfw I play WoW free-to-play, with RP and Everquest 2 during content droughts.
I tried FFXIV. It's a nice game and all, but I love making alts and FFXIV doesn't seem to have anything for an altoholic like me.
Almost every dps and tank job follows some kind of Combo rotation or a priority table...but what you posted was full retarded.
>DRG chaos trust,full trust, jumps
See pic related.
Yeah, but they never mention the jobs that use a 2.0 GCD in XIV, which is divided in half with just one off GCD inbetween, nevermind when you have to use two.
fucking sick bro
I mean I've played 6 MMOs now but fucking sick
>First boss is a Ravana copy paste
Of course meant Fractal bosses, Neverreap first boss just a Zu/Phoenix, second boss is just a Vanu and totems, final boss is just a Vanu flying snake.
FFXIV is hugely alt unfriendly. No shared bank or inventory, so you can't pass money or items to an alt without a middleman. And expansion content is locked behind the main story and patch story episodes.
Anon, nothing is going to increase the FFXI playerbase unless they get it to run separate from PlayOnline.
If FFXIV was free I would drop it in an instant. It already has free weekends, and the entire userbase can feel it. I've started avoiding the game during them.
Why would you need to make an alt on XIV except for bank space? You can play every class and job on 1 character. In WoW, if you don't play a sub, you won't know how a Warlock or Paladin is like. You don't need to do that in XIV, but leveling up your alt jobs and classes and gearing them up is the same thing.
>dragoons who open with battle litany
i hate this meme, let the monk get GL please, unless you got a machinist wildfiring or something
even worse if they dont save battle litany for when ravana takes extra damage or something a minute later
They got the Nexon mobile version coming, which I almost guarantee will be F2P to some capacity. They already had Matsui have to reassure people you won't be able to just log in and buy a REMA, but given how XI already does daily login rewards, as well as bonus events so often, current XI was just a pilot for the cash grab XI coming over the horizon that everyone wanted.
Also, if XIV was free, they'd lose money, since the cash shop would have to become a major focus, and they can't push out real content quick enough to keep most people interested. Paid MMOs have the benefit of holding their players hostage due to the increased attachment to their ingame achievements and such, while F2P relies on gating or shop sales to keep the playerbase looking alive and healthy.
>uses weapon skills that cost upwards of 300 TP for absurd damage
>goes into a cool off phase like BLM to get its TP back
>overall infinite resources
>Gil Toss teals blunt damage for synergy with MNK
Because its not actually off the GCD.
Its a lie players tell themselves to feel better about the terribly slow GCD.
And because you dont actually use an off the GCD move between every GCD in FF14.
A fucking joke and the last response you'll get for your retarded faggotry.
Nigga, I'm not waiting for one person to get their roll going. Everyone has cooldowns at the start of the fight. It'd be stupid to wait until everyone's cooldowns are over because one kid wanted to be jojo or something
This is what is pissing me off.
There's literal fucking bots in dungeon runs and they are ruining the fuck out of the run.
I got Guildwork to stop the spamming but some how the spammers are getting around it to keep spamming me.
The economy is the fucking shitter because everyone just buys gil. So there's a huge ass inflation.
>tfw I stopped playing BRD to level BLM for a straight week and ended up making myself look like an ass on the internet
Faust is just a reskinned Sahagin and so are all the other reused dolls, the A1 bosses are original but they have 3 very minor animations tops. Gobbies are gobbies and have been in the game since 1.0 and their different helmet variations literally take less than a day to create because it's just a different head. Spider mechs are original as far as I can tell but I wouldn't be surprised if they were imported from some other more obscure SE game. A3's trash are just Orobons and the Sastasha HM boss. A4 boss is also original but it also only has like 3 very minor animations.
For me, it's the pleasure of looking at my character list and seeing how many characters I've maxed out. Even when I'm not on an RP server, I like to give my characters a little personality, thinking about how they would react to story events and such.
not only is monk WAY ahead in damage on AS3 and AS4, ideally your dragoon should be buffing your monk, monks love crit
I'm not even saying replace DRG with MNK, just that DRG caused a chain reaction leading to "the ideal comp" with its one move
All this talk about GCD reveal one thing
Why the fuck they didn't add more off GCD skills at the early levels of the game?
Waiting 30 levels to get fast is a really fucking dumb design choice
If it's an alt class, 1-30 takes like 8 hours. Not that bad really.
If it's your first class, you'll be playing through the story and learning the game so it's not that bad as well.
Low level rotations being so fucking retarded damages this game so much.
How can they honestly expect someone to stick with this game if they pick up DRG and their rotation is Heavy Thrust > Impulse Drive x5 for 26 levels?
>BnS beta, beta test of Black Desert, 20 hrs in Tera, 2k hours ERPing in FF, created a character in Archage and Vindictus
>6 MMOS ANON !!!! I HAVE EXPERIENCE!!!! I SWEAR!!! IM NOT A SCRUB!!!!!!! BUT LE 2,5 GLOBAL IS LE HARD CUZ LE OFFGLOBALS!!!!!!I HAVE 2 PRESS 2 MANU BUTTONS TBQH SENPAI DESU SENPAI
Now that i think about it, im glad you shitstains defend so much FF14, that means i odnt get to play with you moonrune pieces of shit in the actual MMOs that matter and are not a casual shitfest, just stay in your containtment mmo.
I don't find it boring like most people. Plus my favorite thing about it is being able to help the other players maximize their shit.
Also what >>315324503 said about Empyreal Arrow. Throw that shit out with the Barrage buff and you're looking at some nice damage.
wouldn't shorter cast times indirectly result in higher dps though since less scenarios where you have to drop WM altogether + less potential bloodletter proccs going to waste via proccing at the start/during cast
i think his point though was that brd lost mobility, not that he personally was turned off by it, and that made a lot of people who exclusively played brd mad because ranged + no casts meant it was more or less the safest/easiest dps to coast along with
now with wm, even at 1s casts there are times mechanics will mean you can't cast and have to prepare/alter your rotation to suit, which people don't like having to do.
>Pepsi Man's animations are from Glasya
It is indeed but he has additional animations.
>his hand form is a copy paste of Magitek Death Claws
>First boss is a Ravana copy paste
Do you mean first boss of Fractal? False, but it is a copy paste of a mob from XI
>second boss is a copypaste of AV's Cyclops
>and last boss is just a Gryphon copypaste.
I dont think you understand how powerful Battle Litany and Disembowel are.
BL is significantly boosting your raidwide DPS, especially if you know how DoTs work. If you have a BLM thats an extra 15%crit chance, with your Bards mage song (and bards damage is boosted by Disembowel), NIN vuln up, raging strikes all being thrown into 6 530 potency attacks.
If you have a SMN, their dots are snapshotted with their current buffs. With contagion, raging strikes, battle litany and the mage song, thats a LOT of damage.
When your bard (whos damage is boosted by Disembowel) puts up their dots with BL up, thats more procs for them too.
Then theres the higher crit change on fell cleave, the higher crit chance on scourge.
It's an extremely large raid wide DPS boost, and DRGs damage is just under MNK.
But as >>315322290 said, at the moment it barely matters.
DRG, NIN, BRD and (Caster) are the ideal DPS for a reason pal. If youre not making world first progression, it wont matter since damage probably isnt your issue anyway.
I dont think they'll change anything for BRD. I agree the mobility was quite good in 2.x. Wanderer's is quite annoying in a fight like A3S where you have to move all the damn time. the changes he had only made it slower paced and more blocky.
just my opinion.
You can't macro them. You have to hit them one right after the other. Macro require a 1s wait between commands. Slows you down and isn't worth it when you can just quickly hit the keys at nearly the same time.
Because the game is cattered to retarded weeabos who can only think of anime, never leave thewir house, have never raided before in any other MMO ever. This is why in A4, you have Straf dolls and jag dolls literally STAND THERE FOR 10 FUCKING SECONDS so the slow on the brain weeabos can react to the fight. The tank busters in the game, like royal pentacle or uncompressed plasma, have lietrally 15 second long cast, so the tank can realize "uyuhhhhhhh.........i guess i pop sentinal xD" and even then, the healers have oh shit buttons for them to react and keep the run going, unlike any other non weeabo catering MMO there is pon the market.
This makes me sad because I hate how DRG plays in HW and I've always hated NINs animations and mudra lag.
Meanwhile I just hit 56 with my MNK and I'm already loving it more than either of the other melee DPS.
Casters are boring as fuck. I also tank of course, which I enjoy, but melee DPS really is the most fun role.
>i played wildstar endgame
yeah i bet you did the dailies, your brain does not have the capacitiy to do veteran dungeons.
>claims the person quoted is strawmaning therefore "he is done son"
xd tbhq senpai desu senpai
Dont worry. Unless youre making world first/second/third progression, it doesnt matter.
It does bug me sometimes that people dont undersyand why Battle Litany is as good as it is.
ffs, it lets you kill the first leg in a4s in a fucking minute if your group knows what their doing.