I bought this the other day since it's supposed to be one of the best games of the year, and I'm really, really struggling to see why people think so.
I'm about six hours in, looking for Ciri in Velen; I've done a couple side quests in an attempt to level up and get health items. But aside from the amazing graphics (pic related, i saw her bare assed, not sure why shes got pantsu here) and the deep narrative, I just don't see whats at all great about this game. I've been TRYING to have fun, but thats already a problem: it should be immediate, i shouldn't have to search for entertainment in a GOTY contender.
Does it pick up or should i just give this shit back tomorrow? What exactly has so many people so impressed with what I feel is a generic mash up of just about every western RPG I've played? Help me enjoy this game, I want to like something about it other then Yen's donk.
>UUUGH, WHY DO YOU GUYS SAY THIS GAME IS FUN? I'M NOT HAVING FUN.
>WHEN DO I HAVE FUN? YOU GUYS SAID IT WAS FUN!
Just take it back, you fucking baby. If you don't enjoy it, you don't fucking enjoy it. There's no secret to unlocking a game's fun. You obviously went into it wanting to prove people who said it was a GOTY contender wrong to fuel your contrarian boner.
Just take it back and stop whining.
I was legitimately wondering if there was a point where the game picks up or new things happen that might get my interest, or if maybe people just enjoyed things about it that I don't.
I went into this game with an open mind, albeit being a bit suspicious since other GOTY contenders turned out to be less than amazing. You assuming I'm one of the many contrarians isn't out of line, but it is wrong, in this case.
Also, go fuck yourself with a rusty knife.
This doesn't explain the near universal acclaim from magazine/website reviews. What is the actual allure of this game? How can so many people (polacks or not) think this was worthy of a 9/10?
Really good voice work all around.
A nice story that has some pacing problems.
Gorgeous and huge open areas to explore that don't just feel like copypasted bullshit.
Novigrad is probably the best city in video games.
The music is great.
The combat on the hardest difficulty is fun and lethal (until you pass a certain threshold where signs murder everything).
Whatever. You don't like it. You'll never like it. If you did end up liking it, you'd have to admit you were wrong about something. And we both know what you would never do that, even to yourself.
i am in the same boat
get a decent pc, now i can finally run this, but
the game is not as great as i thought
horse controls are shit, and the game is designed for controllers and 'casuals' mostly
>press x to follow red shit on the ground
>press x to find yellow shit around
>follow quest markers
its not a bad game, dont misunderstand me, but its not great either
its sill miles ahead of neo-bioware turds and bethesda abominations
That line used to work with Witcher 1, it doesn't work with Witcher 3 which is closer to Zelda than an actual RPG, has no depth to the gameplay whatsoever, and is arguably more casualized console trash than Skyrim
>waaah, please spoonfeed me. I'm too retarded to form my own opinions. I don't understand...
Fuck off faggot. Just play the game and see for yourself instead of shitposting here.
>This doesn't explain the near universal acclaim from magazine/website reviews.
Because reviewers don't play the game past the initial few hours. The critical path in Witcher 3 does pick up but the poor pacing, the fact that general quest variation is limited to: fetchquests, inspecting red things with detective vision active and slowly following someone while they chat with you like in Gears in of War, amplified by mediocre combat makes the game hard for anyone but the most dedicated of people to power through to that point and if you take a break the chances you'll be able to get back in go down exponentially.
>it's supposed to be one of the best games of the year
>Believing sonygger´s lies.
It's simple, play something else. It's amazing how people don't understand the concept of opinions. It doesn't matter how much universal acclaim something receives, there will always be the chance that you personally will not like it.
Nothing wrong with you not liking it. It's not for you so play something else.
Stop judging it in every way that it becomes generic in your eyes, because you are purposely looking for those things. Instead, you should enjoy the world of The Witcher and take a dive into the game. If you can't, you might aswell give up playing games entirely or become just another filthy casual that doesn't really enjoy games at all.
Whoa! The graphics are out of this world. PS4 is truly the best.
>someone bitches about Dragon Age
You know what explains the almost universal acclaim?
It's a good game.
Sorry you have shit taste.
Witcher 3 is massively hyped and all its flaws are over looked because CDProjekt has successfully marketed themselves as a hardcore PC gamer dev making hardcore games for the hardcore PC gamer. People who bought into the master race shit love this and eat it up despite Witcher 2 and 3 being console-focused streamlined pieces of shit. And Witcher 1 is just slightly above mediocre. The Writing does not hold up throughout 2 or 3 and I can only imagine that people praise it because 1 had great writing.
tldr: console converts love it because it looks pretty and they can say theyre a hardcore gamer *presses button to refill all potions*
official witcher 3 review.
all non-quest related things you can find on the world are copy paste boring shit
no one will talk to you unless they are quest related and you have the quest that requires them
awful ui made for consoles and only 2 consumable slots, making alch spec a chore
no resource management, you just instantly get all your potions back for whats essentiallly free
enemys have 1, maybe 2, attack that they repeat over and over, making fights absolutely boring after an hour
level system only works to the games detriment, as youll quickly outlevel everything you have to do and it will all be easier than the game already is
coming across a SKULL WARNING SIGN monster should be exciting but it's not, because you know it fights exactly the same as all the others of its kind, only with more hp.
"cinematic" controls that ignore accuracy in favor of looking more natural
even death march is easy as fuck due to a lack of enemy attack variety and every ability you can spec into being way too strong
ciri sections are boring and unneeded and only serve to rob you of what could have been the one interesting boss fight in the game.
the final moments of the story seem rushed as fuck, from oh hi crones now we fight, to im eredin i have a secret, im dying my secret is this guy tricked us and i had no plan to deal with it, to oh actually geralt i didnt trick you
majority of loot is randomized and scales to your level. Nothing you find really excites you.
all enemies have an extremely short tether that you will cross unintentionally more often than not. At this point they ignore you and start walking back to the center of the area or hang around to get hit easily
witcher senses are only ever used when the quest requires it and is just hold right click to follow quest arrow. you cant actually track monsters or anything out in the world(and why would you need to? theyre all tethered to a small location and never move away)
6/10 game. Had potential, wasted it.
Newsflash: Not everyone can enjoy the same kinds of games. If you're looking for instant gratification and not immersion and self insertion into a fantasy world, you should play a FPS or a hack and slash game instead. Maybe even a MOBA.
Literally copy pasted enemies with different skin, if you've played 2 hours you've seen every enemy mechanic in the game
Open world on rails, you can only explore "points of interests" that are more fucking follow trail quests that lead to non-unique generic equipment and if you find a monster that is 5 levels higher than you he gets a bullshit shield that makes your hits do barely any damage.
Reminder that the Polish president LITERALLY gave Obama a copy of The Witcher 2 as a gift
The Witcher series is considered their crowning achievement as a nation and drives their entire economy, the Polish national identity is based entirely off The Witcher's success and they would all commit suicide on the spot before accepting that Witcher 3 is a 7/10 at best
From what I understand most people who aren't really into the witcher books/plot only played the story and thought it was Okay.
I played this shit for hours just going to towns picking up contracts and hunting down monsters the way Geralt would.
fucking loved playing it as though I was living one of the parts of the book where hes always hunting something.
>Literally copy pasted enemies with different skin, if you've played 2 hours you've seen every enemy mechanic in the game
This. There's almost no variation with enemy AI.
1) Human AI
-----a) Shoot arrows
2) Monster AI
-----a) Attack Geralt one at a time
-----b) Drowner/nekker gangbang
Not to mention when you actually fight monsters the strategy based on encounter barely changes.
1) If flying, spam Aard and crossbow bolts
2) Else, smack it with your sword and spam Igni and alternate Quen
All these sjw haters
It's the first true AAA ARPG released in a ridiculous amount of time. It's well paced and has got a really interesting plot, top-tier side quests, and god-tier characters/voice acting. It's also a incredibly vast game, both in size as well as content, with perhaps the longest main quest I've ever played through in a RPG. The gameplay might be mediocre compared to ARPG's like DaS and DMoMM, but it's still a lot better than the gameplay in previous games, as well as other modern AAA ARPG's, like for example Skyrim.
The game caters to the Story > Gameplay, crowd. So if that's not you, you might have a problem with it. Especially since it's so long. But if you are looking for a story driven game that you really have to invest time in, and God know, there have not been many lately, this is the game for you.
It's almost the 2015 version of Planescape: Torment, both in good things as well as bad
You think that's bad? I've spent 30 hours in the original Witcher, just got the quest where I've met the Lady of the Lake, and fuck me sideways this game is bad.
It's bad in the same way MGSV is bad; you play it because even if the gameplay is mediocre, the game constantly teas you about the story getting really good just around the corner. But it never happens.
I fucking hate those bait n switches.
>not unlocking the secret true TW3 with Ciri protag and MGR-tier combat
menu screen related
Real talk: I get burned out on the game quickly but I think it's legitimately a really good game. Definitely one of the best released in the last couple years; it's just a shame that you have to go through so many layers of carob to get to its creamy nougat center.
I'll admit it doesn't match planescape in terms of branching quests(no 3d game is ever going to match planescape in that) but compared to modern rpgs it's pretty damn good in that department. The bloody baron quest line is one example, and choosing the new ruler of Skellige is another.
There is literally nothing that anyone can say TW3 did well mechanically, as all of the gameplay systems are awful.
The only somewhat positive element was the graphics, which somehow was enough to blind people to the actual game.
If you take away TW3's graphics and evaluate it as a game, it would be about on par with the million other mediocre and forgettable third-person RPGs that just disappear into history.
the story was good enough. I would be legitimately surprised if Fallout 4 turned out any better in the story aspect.
the only really terrible mechanics was the combat but since the game is largely about non combat and trivially easy encounters it's not that much of a pain.
My point was mostly that, similar to PS:T, W3 lets the gameplay take the back seat in favour for plot and characters. And similar to PS:T, although PS:T is worse in that aspect, there are certain combat elements that seriously drag the game down with it.
Also, the different characters you interact with are perhaps the high point in both games.
I'm in almost the exact same boat here. Except I started to really get into it, the first time I played as ciri specifically, I was staring to 'feel' the atmosphere. My major gripe is the combat, is it just me or is it clunky as fuck? Everyone says it's supposed to be strategic and all, but when you get mobbed, it it feels like the best strategy is just to go damage protection sign and spam your light attack. And the movement, dodging, blocking and lock on are very unresponsive. I enjoy the one on one duels with big difficult foes, not the trash mobs.
>I would be legitimately surprised if Fallout 4 turned out any better in the story aspect.
Nigger MGSV will probably end up having a better story. Think about that for a moment
Explain what? TW2 was a somewhat solid, if a bit clunky, action game with a story that actually has decently compelling branching, but it's nowhere near a 10/10. TW1 is a great story wrapped in horrible gameplay.
It's fun if you just want to immerse yourself into a generic RPG world for awhile, but if you're looking for a "great" game, best look elsewhere than this series.
If you're not okay with a fairly generic experience to get sucked into for a long period of time, I'd just trade it in for something else.
git gud fag.
what is yrden?
what is aard/light/heavy/rend combo? (admitedly you got rend/whirl too late)
what is whirl yourself into a safe position before counter attack?
what is bomb?
what is stacking alchemy bonus to kill them with half the effort?
You might have started with the first one and found that easier to get into. Or even the second, since the first ones story and combat are so different from 2 and 3, and 2 is generally considered the best one.
Why do people always jump into a series and fucking bitch about how it doesnt grab them immediately?
Of course it fucking won't, that's not how it fucking works with a series like MGS or Witcher where you have a while bunch of "mior" events and characters that make up quite a large portion of the experience.
>Everyone says it's supposed to be strategic and all, but when you get mobbed, it it feels like the best strategy is just to go damage protection sign and spam your light attack.
It's somewhat strategic unless you're fighting wraiths, nekkers or drowners (who just gangbang you until you die) since some weapons/signs work better on certain monsters (like Aard/crossbow vs. anything that flies) but for the most part all combat is the same loop of flippy shit > light attack/heavy if you dodged smartly and won't get DP'd by someone else during your long animation > use Quen/kite > repeat
yeah that's a goalpoast set too far for me, man. i was doing sidequests and quests above my level so i was pretty high level, it didn't help that everything died that much quicker.
And three types of directional dodges for different situations.
If someone says W3's combat is boring - it's a sure sign he's playing on easy/normal and just spams LMB till everyone is dead.
To be fair, the combat is a fairly common complaint for this game. If you're not intrigued by the lore and characters, it'd be pretty easy to lose interest overall.
Different tastes and all that jazz.
witcher 3 :^)
all of half life
all dmcs, even donte
and many more. and i dont even mention any multiplayer titles where having fun is just 1 invite away. they balance the fun and the challenge without having characters so retarded and theme so up its ass place 2 minutes away from destroying a whole base with literal horse shit.
yep that's my experience with these types as well
"on what difficulty do you play"
"normal, cause it's so frustrating, bad hitboxes, man, no i-frames, senpai, geralt gets stunlocked too often, it's really unresponsive, dude, i swear"
Useless because enemies' aggro leashes are too short to take advantage of the alt-fire turret, and the only reason to use primary is to make katakans and wraiths less hittable.
Not as useful as you'd think because enemy AI basically just bumrushes you so that by the time you throw the bomb you catch yourself in the blast even if you kite
You mean like oils? Oh boy I love opening my laggy, cluttered, poorly designed inventory every 90 seconds to apply oils.
>I bought this the other day since it's supposed to be one of the best games of the year
Why the fuck do you think you are confused? You bought expected to be a damn 10/10 game with everything in it expecting to be 100% good for YOU
Op your the delusional faggot
More diverse creatures based on folk lore instead of Tolkien, The Crones, portals and dimension travelling. The only thing generic western fantasy about it is the medieval time period.
Sure, it's no Morrowind, but it's no LotR either.
>devs retroactively change the story and fuck over the canon to satisfy talimancers
Keep pretending like death march does anything other than changing group sizes and health/attack values faggots.
All you need to do in this game to succeed in combat is the long dodge
D-darn. Yet to play Witcher 3, I was thinking of ignoring her after hearing how much of a bitch she is. Now I'm wondering if I'll be able to romance every single girl in the game.
Playing on the hardest difficulty in the Witcher 3 forces you to diversify your playstyle and use more of the tools given to you instead of just spamming dodge and light attack. When players use more of the options the combat becomes more interesting. I'll admit though eventually you'll overlevel a lot of the non high level quests.
If I only played and liked games that /v/ did, I wouldn't have any fun playing video games.
Just take if back or refund it if you're not having fun within 6 hours. I would say try for 10, but you're sounding like you have a pretty terrible time already.
Personally I love it.
The clunky auto movement, awkward and unresponsive motion and simplistic AI that can't circumvent dodge->hit cannot be justified by "lol try a harder difficulty". The combat is objectively bad and I have played the game on hardest difficulty without issue and actually liked the game overall.
You're not supposed to get hit on the lower difficulties either. Enemies aren't smarter. The only difference is you die faster and then you get a false sense of satisfaction because you're "not like those casuals" despite playing the same fucking thing.
No way near as casual. Skyrim is just attack, attack, attack with maybe a spell or shout mixed in.
Witcher 3 at least requires you to dodge and roll etc. to be successful.
I actually do like Witcher 3, but it took a while to get over how massively overhyped it was.
the story has become shit unfortunately but in my opinion the gameplay is still one of the best of all arpg's in the world
for those who like the gameplay but are looking for a better challenge, i can recommend these mods:
So is yours, whatever that is.
> Anyone can pretend to be the protagonist.
Sure, but self insertion is for the people who are shit at assuming positions not their own, so it is definitely not self insertion.
lol. you got it at atleast level 9 and the charge up is so fucking long the only appropriate way to use it is 1v1 boss fights. it will slow everything that try to bumrush you so you can elegantly slide away and counter attack. and you must dodge BEFORE they start attacking, take into account their comrade's positions to avoid jumping straight into a clawy embrace.
>not as useful as you think
because you never plan ahead when you see the enemies in the distance. and who fucking soft lock throwing friendly fire aoe really. do you even play any rpg past normal at all? this isnt dank souls where enemies take 2 minutes to run to you and "grenades" detonate in a 2 inch spheres. they have saved me many time when my signs arent ready. you also get stunned less than enemies when you get hit by a bombs. some bombs like moon dust, or the freeze bomb might stagger you a bit but wont hurt you, only disable the monsters.
oils usage that can be increased with skills and give 50% damage+base+weapons+75% backstab+x%weapon crit dam bonus+thunderbolt bonus+decocotions that last for hours. I bet you dont even know how to use blizzard.
decoction that last for hours and multiple the damage base on various conditions
Focuses on story and looks nice.
That's all "journalists" look for these days, they all suck at playing games so even shallow stuff like The Witcher seems deep and complex to them.
If you don't enjoy the narrative and side quests with actual attention paid to them, try dragon age inquisition. Your side quests will literally be "take this to that place for +2 power and no additional dialogue".
TW3 has an amazing level of story detail, for me that's huge.
The San Fran gang of SJW thug journos went apeshit when they couldn't find any black people in TW3.
Basically the boss at CDPR came out and told them to fuck off and make games that would fit more their culture instead.
It's a backwards fantasy world, that was how the author intended it to be.
Elves dont live in beutiful cities, but are rather hobos and drug addicts.
Mages arent respected, dont live in tall towers, are getting hunted and repressed.
Protag isnt a knight in shining armor out to save the world. He's just after his own goal, while everyone around him, even his loved one is trying to use him.
>Mages aren't respected, don't live in tall towers, are getting hunted and repressed
Take out the tower, and you've got Dragon Age mages, who are generic as fuck themselves
>Elves are downtrodden
Not unique, and also in shitty DA. Witcher does it better, but it's not unique.
Protag isnt a knight in shining armor out to save the world. He's just after his own goal, while everyone around him, even his loved one is trying to use him.
Oh, he's sort of an anti-hero, you say? How wonderfully unique in a western fantasy setting!
If I knew how to mod - I'd make two changes to combat:
First - no food during combat, only potions
Second - dodgeroll now empties your stamina, as if you casted a sign
Maybet also add slower stamina regen but that might be too severe.
>WAAH I DONT LIKE THING, WHY PEOPLE LIKE THING???
Guess what, my best friend likes games I think are liquid shit. I like games he thinks are liquid shit.
We are adults and don't waste our time on pointless things like trying to convince the other which game is shit and which is good.
Play the witcher contract "Devil in the Well" or something like that. Required level 2, picked up in the starting town of White Orchard.
That subquest sold me on this game. All the enemies are so thought out - the game is just so DEEP.
It's not for everyone. But I'm hooked.
Witcher of course.
Dragon age flat out rip off the elves and mages.
Dragon age 2 rip off the role of the protags in the world.
Also the anon mistaked some stuff.
Mages arent hunted and repressed until a recent event. They are feared and respected but mostly acted like a guild of some sort with big political ambition. They also need a lot of money and manpower for their "magic" so they arent far removed from the mundane world. They also research into genetic, medicine, physic alongside normal scholars.
Protags is a man made mutants who only care about his circle of friends and adopted family. but due to being a superhumans and his own conection with mages, he often get pulled into social upheaval.
most monsters are actually aliens from another dimensions with their own habitat, varied level of intelligence, some has their own brand of magic etc...
Giving recent examples in video games. The novels don't matter in this regard, since those tropes have been used repeatedly in fantasy since then.
You say it was "unique" decades ago. You can't say it's unique now.
This setting is generic as fuck.
bce has stopped development and instant sign cast isnt that important. use this https://mega.nz/#!GNxlhaIZ!XNwK6XWu25YGHwvlOHXbYYKPMVEvD2yy4PcYNFkG018
known this by lurking the 'dex
But in a way the setting is a lot more generic than for example, Lord of the Rings, since it's based on older tales and folk lore. But that is also what makes it interesting and special in a modern game. Most modern fantasy settings are just some fat dudes version of Tolkien.
The argument was on whether the setting was generic or not.
It can be argued whether it's done in an interesting way, but there's no getting around it being generic.
It's okay to enjoy things like that.
So if I ask for all these examples of other games using mages as some poorly veiled social commentary about marginalization I should expect "g-google it yourself" as an answer?
I'm not sure about that but he hasnt updated since august.
Better combat evolved is still being updated, inspired by this with many similar feature too. But currently they are rebalancing the toxicity. My compilation use an old version of that.
Also the soft lock disabling mod is a fucking miracle to witcher gameplay.
OP, this is obviously because you are a casual scrub who needs to git gud and probably isnt even playing on death march and hasnt even left white orchard and didnt read the books and you can turn quest markers off
there you go, every response youll get
Iuno man, I only played 2 and it was highly hyped and also pretty boring. The combat is just not that good and there is too much time spent managing items and talking to people.
I just bought the game to see how my GPU holds up. Just killed the griphin thing.
Think it's pretty good so far. UI isn't very seamless with KBM. Will have to play more to really decide how good it is.
I was the exact same as you OP, than I tried to refund the game and they didn't.
So I sit down and started a new game and paid attention to it, the game started to get really good and make alot of fun once I got to Novigrad and once I picked the alternative combat.
I've done almost everything in the game now, 200 hours in a singleplayer-action game and I am not even playing the DLC or the NG+ yet.
It's also my very first witcher game.
I didn't even like the game that much until I finished the main questline. I liked the acting and characters, but the story and everything else didn't really click. After that I started to do all the secondary and witcher quests. Holy shit, the main questline is just the beginning. The same detail is present in literally every quest, be they small or large.