>Fallout 4 has great graphics guise, it's just youtube video compression!
>no the textures aren't muddy and shit it's just the consoles and image compression
>Godd howard said it looks good and has good graphics
PC, all settings on maximum, and it's this fucking nasty excrement
>that brick wall
Bethesda knows that they have a army of dedicated and ignorant fans to fix every single thing they don't give enough of a shit to fix themselves. Which is most things about every one of their games.
Remember. Bethesda liked the paid mods thing that happened on steam. they will enforce that paid mods system for bother PC and Consoles. So they don't have to pay the toll needed for patches.
The modders will patch the game for them and give them a portion of the money spent on the mod that fixes their game.
I sure do love how literealy everything about Skyrim was fixed in 6 months. Oh wait. That didn't happen. It has been 4 years and Skyrim is still mediocre trash even with mods.
Who cares? Mods'll fix it. And I know a lot of /v/ anons are gonna buy it day one/ or pirate it...
Dont deny it.
>Beth releases bleh game
>fix their own shitty textures with a "High Resolution Texture Pack" ala Skyrim
>BASED BETHESDA!! everywhere
Not worried about shit like wall textures though, as a baseline its pretty good so modders won't have huge issues making it enjoyable. Skyrim and Fallout 3/NV are still unplayable messes with tons of mods just because the baseline gameplay and animations are fucking awful.
Might but it on sale in a year when a Game of the year edition drops with all the season pass DLC as well as the obvious DLc that won't be apart of the Season pass and when Mods are worth a shit.
But that will still be around $80 Since you know for damn sure they will bring back paid mods.
what's with all the controversy about the graphics?
looks better than anything bethesda has made before (besides morrowind's art direction, in my opinion). i'm surprised such a big deal was made out of this but not fallout 3, new vegas, skyrim, which much of looks like trash, but it's absolutely serviceable, and looks pretty good in some areas. same thing here.
also, i really disagree that mods "fixed" skyrim. there were much more and bigger problems than textures and post processing, which is pretty much what almost all of the graphical mods were. it was putting a garish bandaid over the papercut of a cancer victim. that's quite an exaggeration but you get it.
FO4's gameplay and story will be boring and unimaginative. There's no need to be a graphics whore senpai
Skyrim came out 4 years ago. The previous Bethesda-style Fallouts even further back.
Back then, /v/ hadn't yet become a bandwagoning memeing shithole, and the vidya circles of the internet hadn't yet decayed into nothing but ass-blasted trolling 24/7.
Still looks pretty good. Definitely well within 2015 and "next gen" standards. A definitive, objective upgrade to anything the Fallout series has seen before.
Like, what the fuck do you people expect?
We need roughly 23 more threads concerning the graphics of Fallout 4.
It looks like shit, but still so much better than FO3 and NV. I think that's how Bethesda keeps itself relevant. They make huge timesinks that are fun to fuck around in and make them all look horrible so expectations don't rise, but good enough that the new game looks fantastic if you completely ignore everything but the previous one.
Also, marketing out the tits.
I know they will reinstate the paid mods bullshit for this game. They will make it for both pc and consoles. they will make it so they never have to drop a dime for update fees because modders will make mods that will fix the game and line the pockets of Bethesda at the same time.
>not a bandwagoning memeing shithole since its inception
The shitposting on this board alone forced moot's hands in the last round of janitor hiring.
As far as Bethesda goes, Skyrim's graphics were at least par for the time. They weren't great, but not bad either. The GRFX being shown in the leak are almost PS2-tier. It is as if they threw up their hands and said: "Fuck it, modders will finish the game for us." and stopped trying.
The amount of bullshit /v/ is spouting about FO4 right now has made it impossible to tell between legitimate issues and not.
The only legitimate issue iv seen so far is the dialogue wheel. But we still don't know if that game breaking or not because we havnt seen any real quests with choices.
Do any of you really give a fuck what some poorly texture mapped bricks look like? Or are you just jumping on the hating Bethesda bang wagon? If you think a game is shit for shit "graph hicks" then are Fallout 1 and 2 shit? No of course they aren't. They were fun and looked like shit, all games looked like shit then but hey now some games don't look like shit. Then you rag on Beffesduh for shit graphics like play the game or don't. Gameplay > graph dicks
>people still putting their faces on wall textures.
>Why would you come to this conclusion
Tell me anon.
In all the gameplay footage you've seen:
How many crits that weren't sneak attacks did you see that weren't executed in VATS?
Complain all you fags want this game is gunna make huge money because it appeals to a larger audience and its marketing has been bretty gud. Bethesda is a company that's there to make money, just like every other studio. Cry all you want but if they made fallout 4 a REAL RPG then it wouldn't sell. Hardcore fags who sit down and play for 12 hours are a very small number in the demographics. Most people are gunna pick it up and play a good bit because most people are casuals. Game companies that make games for casuals make more money, a lot more money.
same as skyrim, different textures but same sounds and all.
Some people just abuse the hell out of VATS and its blatantly obviously that the people who leaked the footage are doing just that. If you don't like it, don't use it. I hardly ever used it in FO3 and I never had any problems.
It is current gen
You can literally pop it into a ps4 and play it
As far as animations go your opinion is based on 15 mins a best of LEAKED footage
Find something else to nit pick so i can blast that away to pesant
So your answer isn't, "this is a good decision for gameplay"
"this decision was made to make money."
I agree with that statement.
It was entirely a money making decision. That doesn't exactly address the complaint, now, does it?
Are you fucking 12? People made a huge deal about how FO3 reused tons of assets constantly and had muddy textures. This is the exact same shit people got angry about before you fucking teenager.
>For the type of game Fallout 4 is
An AAA title developed by a company with literally unlimited development time and budget?
>that would be nearly impossible.
This was the argument in 2002. You can't use the same argument, when we've gotten to the point of being able to do realtime tesselation effects on the GPU with no performance hit. Please, give me one single technical reason why texture resolution is "nearly impossible".
>15 mins a best
I'm not him. However.
At this point we've seen far more than 15 minutes of it.
We've seen enough of it to verify the animations of recurring enemies as having the same animations from previous games.
Keep beating that dead horse sperglord
Nobody stares at a fucking texture while playing a game
When you are emersed in a game you dont see tat shit
Go ahead and say you do because i will say ur playing wrong if ur not that emersed
>For the type of game Fallout 4
If that type is piece of shit, then yeah the damage is already done. But are you saying that an open world game like Fallout 4 just can not handle decent animations and up-to-date graphics then you're stupid.
Somehow I doubt that, considering that's what graphics settings are for ...
VATS was the combat in those games, and the combat was turn-based and depended entirely on your stats. Why you would bring that up in discussion of a first person shooter with minor RPG elements baffles me.
It'll work on pc, and never on console, This mods on console bullshit is NEVER going to work properly, and consolefags will bitch that they can't have mods that require extra button binds.
Because he has no other argument.
The best he can bring up is, "but you don't know that yet."
When we can see the perks.
We've seen the e3 footage where, when the crit bar was full in vats, it automatically crits, but not outside of vats.
We've seen gameplay footage where you never crit outside of VATS unless it's a sneak attack crit.
Didn't Bethesda release a Hi-Res texture pack with the PC release of Skyrim?
They released it when Skyrim was integrated to the Steam workshop along with a Portal space core mod. It was still a pretty shit texture pack but it looked somewhat nicer than the original
>Fallout 4 graphics are shit
>Skyrim had such good graphics, why cant they just import those.
Skyrim on high
It literally says fo.png you fucking brain dead bethesda shill of a retard...
>b.b.b.b.b.but muh compression... yeah right paid shills.
>Only difference is saturation in color and different font
Jesus I can probably go mod fallout 3 and it would look the same.
what's with graphixwhores and brick walls?
>There are people on /v/ RIGHT NOW that were actually excited for this massive steaming piece of shit
Bethesda might as well move to India at this point, they've been publicly dropping massive turds for years now
>brick walls in a 2007 game looks better than fallout 4
The graphics are terrible by today's standards and that's why people are talking so much shit about the graphics. Me personally I expected to see a huge improvement on graphics seeing as its been this long since the last fallout game. Instead everything looks plastic and ugly. They can't seem to hire proper animators or texture design people either. Couple that with constantly always releasing buggy terrible games that are about as deep as a puddle and have god awful AI you're going to have a bad time.
I played Oblivion. Then inp l ayed fallout 3 and immediately saw just how lazy bethesda really was. Same bugs as in oblivion. Same ui, same fast travel menu. Basically everything was exactly carbon copy the same. What they essentially did was create a giant Oblivion mod. That's how I felt about it all. Then new Vegas came out and it was more of the same. Then skyrim came out and it was more of the same again. Now they've ripped a lot of the rpg elements out of fallout and it's fucking stupid. These people are hacks and you shouldn't buy their shitty games. They're probably the laziest developers out there and literally don't care about making original games with depth to them.
OK now look at it from 2' away like OP did
Every game looks that shit up close
I just grabbed the pic off google I can't be arsed to boot up the game to get a screen.
I can tell you from hundreds of hours of experience with STALKER that even up close the brick walls look a lot better than the garbage in Fallout 4.
Oh, and you guys will love this; No matter how you make the parents look the baby is always black.
SOLE SURVIVOR IS C U C K CONFIRMED
M currently unemployed, how do i get paid to shill for fallout? or any game company ?
(picture is related)
they even made lock picking colorful Jesus fuck they overdid it
Uh... why are the system requirements so high again?
System requirements are inflated for every game these days. Honestly I don't give a shit about any of this because my 7870 will run it solid 60 very high. Keep the downgrades coming pls
The baby will be born transgender too, it's progressive in so many ways.
>literally a DUDE WEED LMAO robot
Why is this allowed?
Why can't western devs make a good looking brick wall?
Why do you people act all surprised like come on this shit is expected, we are not talking about a game using cryengine here it's fucking gamebryo and compared to skyrim or previous fallout/elder scrolls games it does look pretty good and slightly improved, 99% of the complains I read are about the graphics if I wanted a game with graphics then I would get crysis 3, people buy that game to push there PCs and actually get good graphics people don't buy elder scrolls or fallout because of graphics.
It definitely looks better than the one in the OP.
I know you /v/ kids love your memes and memewords, but this isn't any type of SJW pandering or PROGRESSIVE shit.
It's fucking lazy. All they had to do was make the baby have a black and white skin color in case people change it. They didn't do it because they assume people will write it off (particularly Americans) as part of some social progressive bullshit or other. In reality, they're just really, really, REALLY fucking lazy.
>now look at it from 2' away like OP did
To appeal to Canadians and Bernie Sanders voters.
Doubt it. It'll likely run great just like every other one of their games but completely fall apart the moment you try to increase the draw distance beyond 1 cell or play too long and save too much.
I am so fucking sick of this lockpick minigame.
How is it possible for the devs at Bethesda to be this fucking incompetent? I would be genuinely embarassed by all this if I was one of them. Did they spend the last 7 years huddled in a boardroom playing soggy biscuit or something?
>vanilla Bethesda game vs MODDED Skyrim
>WOW SKYRIM LOOKS BETTER
Not SoC but still looks 100x better than FO4, but I mean, who didn't expect that?
This is what baffles me the most, actually. Say what you will about Ubishit, but their teams churn out a new AC game with a shitload of new assets, some new mechanics and whatever the fuck else every year. Beth had 7 years since the last Fallout and 4 years since Skyrim, they're using the same engine with added functionality, so why the fuck do they have to reuse assets and have the game look like arse? What the fuck were they doing?
So it's like skyrim with guns? Looks neat, I like the armor customization, I'm glad they're bringing back more slots. Based on the general trend this game should of had just 1.
>mfw I'm actually happy as fuck that the graphics aren't amazing that way I can actually run this on my toaster
>But anon, why not if it just had high end graphics but you can set it to low to run it just fine
Yeah, then explain why my PC can't Run Witcher 3 on all low settings? I can run MGSV and heavily modded Skyrim with no issues, but W3 gets a breathtaking 10FPS even in full toaster mode. Fucking shitty waste of $
Intel Core i7 4790 3.6 GHz/AMD FX-9590 4.7 GHz or equivalent
8 GB RAM
30 GB free HDD space
NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB/AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB or equivalent
That's to make this game run properly, looking as shitty as it does now.
Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
8 GB RAM
30 GB free HDD space
NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent
This is for the lowest settings. Bad graphics does NOT mean better performance.
>stupid broken shit
>better keep it in the game, fuck it well just make it bright and colorful
>fun new things in the game
>fuck that we need to get rid of it to streamline, who cares if people like dialog, factions, graphics, story and fun, that shits gotta go
Bethesda has a fetish for removing fun things and replacing it with nothing
Use the low spec mods or tweak the ini files to get it to run lower than low. Foliage distance and grass density fucks up framerate the most.
Also, be wary. FO4 has every little bit of chance to run like shit while looking like shit. We won't know till a few days.
>Gold watch on a dog
>Glass Bowl on a mirelurk
The texture is fine but most brick faces in STALKER are modeled so each brick sorta sticks out. So it actually physically looks like bricks, instead of a flat brick looking texture.
Was trying to think of the name of this effect, it's Parallax mapping, apparently.
Image even shows how bad they look without the mapping.
I've always thought it would be nice to have a game that looks mediocre but has loads of content and a massive world
This isn't quite what I expected, though
>tfw drunken Ivan Ivanski and Igorovich the FAS survivor squatting over their shared computer managed to out-develop and utterly outperform a bunch of idiot incompetents with billions of dollars to spare
>this baby laying in the shadows is black!!
Believe me, the full picture isn't that great. I'm not sure if it's a coincidence, or if he's a memester and decided to go Shiggy Diggy with the face. Then again, this, also by Xopachi, looks like she's doing the Chaika face.
Dude can't draw anything aside from titfucks, I swear.
>yfw everyone in this thread will play it anyway
It totally has, but that doesn't give them an excuse to fix such a seemingly easy problem. Or has it become an inside joke to the community, and the devs don't actually give a shit?
honestly from the very first trailer i saw for fallout 4, i have not really been that hyped
kinda interested to see what its like, but so far i really just am not hyped for this title.
I might pirate it thats it.
anything thats single player only really should be pirated before buying IMHO.
I think it looks fine, sure its not the shiniest shit ive ever seen but speaking from experience bethesda games are very well optimizied and dont consume very much graphical or CPU resources.
Do you have a hard time discerning race in anything other than blinding light or something? It has brown skin and dark eyes, while the guy who leaked those pictures made both parents lily white.
>There are people who seriously believe morrowind's combat is like that due to those shitpost webms and wrote the whole game off because of a mechanic that stops appearing 30 minutes into the game
This hurts me more than anything
>WHERE'S THE HELGEN DRAGON ATTACK? I WANT SOMETHING AWESOME TO HAPPEN
>WTF THIS ENEMY KILLED ME WHAT'S WITH THE DIFFICULTY
>YOU MEAN I HAVE TO USE WEAPONS TO GET GOOD AT USING THEM? ANYONE CAN SWING A SWORD!!!
Chubek keked you forever on 4chan. Just deal with it.
Todd said they generate a baby based on the parents.
*little lies plays softly in the background*
the thing about fallout 4 is that everything and I mean everything just seems so flat and textureless
like you can do open world and have it look amazing, MGS did it
it's just so flat
I wonder if Xopachi is related to Andrew Dobson. Not even I could match the dreaded Pachi brows.
>tfw korean animators making vietnamese guerrilla warfare instructional videos do a better job than a AAA western game dev company
What if FO4 has the same problem Skyrim had: every cave/vault/etc is a big loop and filled with the same small variety of mobs
Will ghouls be this games draugr? Based on the leaked clips I've seen, it sure seems that way
>loved NV, hated FO3
>next to zero interest in FO4, I'll buy it when it's <$10 on some sale a few years down the line
>content to just play Dragon Age Origins again which I haven't played for years and already know is a great game
That would explain why they haven't released a list of the names they implemented. Would be a great little marketing boost. They're probably banking on no one noticing until they release the mod tools; aka after all the reviews come out and they get GOTY.
I can defend Bethesda as much as the next person. But Todd Howard, if you're reading this.
THIS IS FUCKING PATHETIC. QUALITY CONTROL IS A THING. Spend 5 years making a game and no one can oversee the texture artist. Ffs.
I'm not buying this shit.
Jking. Going to midnight release. Kek
remember when games had good dialogue options
>What if FO4 has the same problem Skyrim had: every cave/vault/etc is a big loop and filled with the same small variety of mobs
I've heard this for years and i still don't get it.
How is a cave/dungeon looping back to the entrance at the end a negative? How is doubling back through an empty ass labyrinth even slightly better?
I really would like this answered
DAMN man hahaha i just canceled my pre-order
hahahaha boy oh boy this is a level of laziness i never seen, its strange that everywhere else theres people sucking the smegma off fallout4 as if it was the next big thing when all details about it points towards a bioshock infinite level of dumb.
I m new to 4chan, always kept out of here since you guys hate black people, but god damn you guys are right about this game, i m fucking keeping my hard earned money.
Thanks for showing me the light /v/.
Stay safe white boys.
The writing is abysmal, super mutants are dumb orcs again, your player makes stupid autistic little barks, deathclaws are dragon fights from skyrim reskinned, there's no reputation system, dialogue is like mass effect for 'muh cinematic experience', damage threshold has been scrapped again, essential NPCs are back, you get power armor literally at level 2, most quests are action-FPS tier, and major population hubs are about as big and populated as Megaton from Fallout 3 (also shit)
No, it's not a good game
This, they also joke about the wallpapers they put on windows, the ground, and people to hide the radioactive wasteland, so what appears like bad textures is really just wallpapers put on by NPCs to hide the radiated and destroyed objects.
Just a reminder that you autists are the reason we'll never get HL3.
I'm thinking the lack of skills will be only sort of lame, most of the the perks are meh.The dialog is completely fucking stupid (all thanks to the voiced protag, no one asked for this).
Im hopeful for the boss enemy type battles.
Hopefull that south american guy was right and the city building has depth.
I'm hopeful for this game. We have seen a lot of stupid shit. but some ok stuff too. cant get any worse right? right?
I actually am bitching about loops. It's kind of a minor thing, but I really like the feeling that I'm delving down into the deep without knowing when or how I'll be able to get back out.
this is totally fucked up right here. the game looking this bad should run on toasters. My pc is a bit better than my ps4, but due to shit optimization, I might be forced to get the ps4 version. this is beyond fucked up guys.
>I'll buy it when it's <$10 on some sale a few years down the line
Literally seen this posted too many times. Why are you lying to yourselves? You know damn well you're buying the game for full price and not waiting for it to never be $10.
Someone posted pictures of the quest descriptions and they're all literally 3 words. "Go to town" "Investigate radio signal" "Talk to X" etc. Even in New vegas the quests to investigate the radio signals had a sentence or 2 for the description.
When you emerge from the vault, you can see the gas station with Dogmeat a few hundred feet in front of you. You get a companion right at the very beginning of the game. It's almost impossible to avoid it
The quest they showed at e3 with the power armor and deathclaw is the very first story quest when you emerge from the vault. At level 1 or 2 you already have power armor and you're fighting what were once extremely powerful end-game enemies.
I'm sure the PS4 version will be even WORSE. Bethesda won't make the game run magically better on consoles, especially if they invest no effort in any other fields. IIRC, Fallout 3 and NV ran at like 25 FPS on consoles. TWENTY FIVE.
Y'know, it just struck me, the pre-war scene probably shouldn't have been as idyllic as it was. Things weren't exactly going well in the 2070's. You had the New Plague, the Resource Wars, rioting in a ton of cities, food rationing and shortages, etc. It certainly could be that this little suburb was far removed from all of that, but some references to the events at least would have been nice. It seems like betheskike's pathological dislike of actually studying the lore before making decisions is showing through again.
Because with system requirements like these you expect some graphical quality ABOVE games that ask LESS THAN THAT
Look at dying light for a good example, next gen looks that runs smooth even in last gen toasters, it works like that because it was coded by ACTUAL TALENTED DEVS now fallout 4 is just fallout 3 with colors and custom guns, If i can speculate about it i would say even the graphics weren't coded by bethesda, maybe its so demanding because they just hit ctrl v on all enb/vfx any graphical mod for skyrim and integrated it into the final product.
Lazy just lazy.
Doesn't look horrible but the game probably looks worse in motion, this is how it should've looked last gen. Bethesda just doesn't care and doesn't need to with so many retards buying their games.
This whole thread makes me feel better about getting into the games industry. With standards being this low, I'll be accepted with open arms.
its like the graphics are almost good. THEYRE JUST OUTTA FOCUS GUISE!
Not getting into any Fallout 4 hype after realizing that Skyrim had tons of issues was probably a good idea in the long run.
I see shit like this and can only imagine how much everything else in the game falls short.
First, you don't HAVE to take Dogmeat. Second that power armor requires energy cells to keep running, runs out of power, and the Deathclaws are still just as deadly as they were before if you're not in the power armor. Hell they might be MORE deadly. They appear to be faster and can do evasive manuevers.
Also why give a paragraph long description? Game has quest markers.
Definitely a day 1 pirate for me. Not going to give Toddler my money.
When they finally manage to make animations that don't look like amateur garbage from 2003 and move away from Gamebryo I'll buy their game.
I bet that 80% of their budget for Fallout 4 was marketing and shilling.
God, there's no way this is real, right?
Someone had to have fucked around in the PC settings/console to make it look this shit. If this is the console version I am seriously perplexed by how badly Bethesda managed to fuck up
If you didn't want to play it, you wouldn't pirate it.
Even if you were like "this looks so retarded I'll just pirate to laugh at how shit it is", would you really bother downloading like 30-40gb just for that?
Gong to be playing this game on a craptop from 5 years ago. Will test how it handles. See for myself if game is really shit or not.Specs you might add?
Intel Celeron 1.70 GHz(Will be overclocking)
7 gbs of ram
64 bit windows 7.
Intel graphics and basic shit
(P.S.) Without tweaking my pc Skrim and Fallout new Vegas play at 30 fps
With tweaks around 45 fps.
What is playable is debatable but to me its a 800x600 resolution with 25 fps at minimal play ability. Not going to put down game because of low end graphics
>2 sentences is a paragraph long description
>liking quest markers at all
It's pretty clear now why Beth does their absolute best to make sure you're not immersed in their games by shitting on every single aspect that could contribute in that way.
I pirated Ride to Hell: Retribution but I sure as fuck wouldn't pay for it.
I'm a massive jew, I'm not going to pay $60 for a sub-par game.
The entire United States was far removed from all of that before the bombs fell. Why? We won the resource wars. We fought off or destroyed the opposition through technological might and military supremacy. In 2077 the only two countries left in the world to matter were the US and China. Europe was already ruined with shit tons of in-fighting. The middle east imploded when fossil fuels became obsolete. South Asia and South America became literally whos as did Africa.
So yes. The US was an idyllic place to live as long as you were a meat eating militaristic star spangle bannered American. But that idyllic place was built on the ruination of multiple cultures and countries. Which is why China let the nukes fly. They were beginning to really suffer and were on their way to ruination themselves. So they said "FUCKA ROO" and took the world down with them.
>Tfw was really hoping it would make me surprised.
>Tfw it didn't
At least I didn't get hyped up to shit like a stupid faggot. It's the same shit everytime and everyone falls for it
>omg this is like porn
>X MORE DAYS!!!
>GOODBYE SOCIAL LIFE!!! xDDD
Sick of this shit.
Maybe for the next fallout game, Bethesda can ship everyone to Ukraine or Russia and pay them in peanuts like the STALKER guys, and the Croteam guys so they can actually put out a polished game.
Oh, and cut the fucking staff down to less than 30 people; weed out the weak and put out something with some fucking pride.
Holy shit, why is no one talking about this? I see it in every thread but literally no one ever brings it up or even notices. Am going insane? There better be some fucking way to change that. Holy shit, what the fuck is wrong with his thumbs
The worst is that this voiced idiot protagonist fucks up mods as well.
Before you could just mod out the shoehorned intro and dump you somewhere else in the world but this voiced protagonist is going to act like an idiot that knows nothing about anything because he was a not-1950's dude up to a few moments ago. There's no room to roleplay as anything but an idiot protagonist that was dumped into the wasteland Teedus style.
Obsidian gave you a reason to go out into the Wasteland and a Courier let's you play as many different kinds of characters meanwhile what the fuck does Bethesda think they're doing.
It got me to thinking, is their engine still incapable of having built-in ambient occlusion? I know that shit was impossible for Skyrim's version of the engine to handle without getting blown the fuck out every time. But I'm not really seeing any of it in here either.
I like to take into consideration how the HP bar looks like it got drawn in MSpaint.
There are black folks on 4chan, and they're not niggers. Just like we don't hate gay people, we hate fags.
Fallout 1 and 3 you were always a know-nothing Vault dweller. How is this any different? Only 2 and NV had you playing as someone already living in the wastes that should know how things work.
Skyrim kinda missed out on those opportunities with making every trip down into dungeons a question about whether or not you would disappear or not. Fuck, that spookiness would be really cool but I don't count on Bethesda ever capturing a feel.
Welp, trash again.
>First, you don't HAVE to take Dogmeat
The game might rely on you taking it for it to function though. Like getting piled with enemies.
Well, there's one problem. But introducing the power armour this early on is still a massive mistake. The game already pulls all its cards at the beginning instead of rewarding you with greater rewards the more you go on. It'd be a lot more satisfying to pepper an enemy in bullets wearing the outfit of a tank, killing enemies that gave you a lot of trouble earlier in the game. But that won't happen now though.
>Also why give a paragraph long description? Game has quest markers.
And that's a problem. I want to know what I'm doing and why, not follow an arrow like a retarded sheep.
Pls make an isometric medieval fantasy RPG with deep lore, questing and player choice and a realistically built world with interesting characters and 11/10 music
I always went for the stronk female 2handed but I pretty much beat the game with every race/class, the only one I didn't do was dwarf because there is a beard bug that makes your cheeks sink in (I guess im just autistic like that)
And I thought I could get away with it.
Well, what did you buy with (Steam, Beth website)? You can cancel a pre-order.
Except when some shit is clearly shittier than other shit it becomes a problem. Like seriously:
These look like mid/late-gen 360 games. If this is what Bethesda managed to accomplish on consoles the PC version will be utterly fucked.
Even if it is, your graphics card is probably shit.
Either way, it's an open world game on a massive scale. Graphics are never the strong point in games like these and if you think they are, you are horribly retarded.
>The game might rely on you taking it for it to function though.
There're perks for running with no companions. Also in the dialogue you can just let Dogmeat stay where he's at. Companions aren't must-haves. You'll notice that the early footage of the power armor the PC has no companion in the fight.
We also don't know what all the game has in store. I was discovering new shit for a year in vanilla Skyrim. I STILL find shit I haven't seen before in both Fallout 3 and NV. I doubt we've seen even a 10th of Fallout 4 with these leaks. This isn't some throw away 20 hour RPG. This is a fucking Bethesda RPG. We'll still be finding new unique weapons. power armor armor mods, and side quests months from now.
>thinking graphics cards affect the visual quality and not just the speed at which frames are rendered
And Skyrim looked good to me and I had a ton of fun and so did everyone else.
It was a critic success, community/player success, and a financial success.
In the end, whatever you say won't stop this from being a great game.
Guys. Guys. Help me out here. I'm starting to panic a little. I'm a huge Bethdrone, and while I always knew FO4 would be a step back in some ways from the previous games, I thought the things it added would balance it out, like from Oblivion to Skyrim. I knew they wouldn't be able to get everything right but I believed in Bethesda and that they would be able to craft an engaging game. But now I keep reading leaked details that just make me sad. Like how they took out all the cool little things New Vegas added in, like DT and ammo types and weapon variety and factions and reputation and the companion wheel, plus things like weapon degradation and repair and skills. This new voiced character and new dialogue system look extremely bad, and they didn't improve on the things I wanted, like framerate, AI, animations, gunplay (I don't know why but I was really hoping they would add in dual-wielding handguns), plus I'm very suspicious of the new features they did announce, like the settlement building and the weapon customization. I don't know what to do if the new Fallout really does end up being a huge disappointment.
After Skyrim? I doubt it for all three of your examples. If it turns out Beth puts out a great game, great, I'll buy it. But I'm honestly not expecting anything good from this at all and all these signs are really not spurring me to hit that buy button at all.
Let me re-iterate.
Skyrim was a Critic success.
Skyrim was a success by the community.
Skyrim was a success financially.
>b-but muh VA!
It doesn't matter in the end. Everybody loved it except for 4chan, who hates everything.
I literally couldn't care any fucking less about graphics, and I don't understand why you guys are so god damn obsessed over it. It
You should be more concerned about the gameplay, like this shitty retarded dialog wheel.
Look, noone's saying Fallout 4 will be bad based solely on the fact that the graphics are not current gen. The game overall looks like dogshite, but the graphics just aren't good.
>I don't know what to do if the new Fallout really does end up being a huge disappointment
I'm guessing you only play open world games or?
Its success doesn't mean people have to like it.
>4chan, who hates everything.
4chan isn't one person.
What you do is never buy another bethesda game. If all normies did the same thing beth would get the fucking picture and the jews at zenimax would get worried about a detriment to the shekel flow. Might even fire some people.
I know, but it still pisses me off that a lot of companies feel the need to try and dumb down dialog systems or inventory systems when previous games in the series or games in alternative series already showed that said systems worked fine on consoles.
Anyone have this picture comparing "downgrade" bascially?
And then you said
>In the end, whatever you say won't stop this from being a great game.
Shit-eaters, lazy critics, and sellouts do not make a game good at all. You might even enjoy that, and I'll argue why you shouldn't but by no means does that mean it's good at all.
> Everybody loved it except for 4chan, who hates everything.
And yet it still has 34k players on Steam at any given time. More than Witcher 3 and that came out this year. On top of that EVERYONE I know who plays vidya is hyped as fuck even AFTER seeing the leaked footage. Many of them even saying that it looks awesome.
Face it. You're on the losing side. Fallout 4 will be a massive success. People will love it.
You're not an andriod, you and your family survive the blast and are put into cryosleep. You wake up and watch out the window of your pod as your wife is killed by some merc looking guy and someone in a radiation suit steals your niggerbaby. I imagine the main quest is searching for the stupid thing.
>want to start shit storm
>go on /v/ and trash popular games
>wait 4 months
>praise game for being great
>shit talk everyone who thought the game was bad(before it was even released)
Revert to step 1 with new popular game until shitstorm is fueled
Why V, why?
Nobody doubts that. In fact, I'd say /v/ would be the first place to say this game will be a commercial success. Game's still shit though. That isn't something that is due to /v/ 'winning' or anything similar, it's just due to Beth being lazy shits.
Why are bethesda games so popular with normies? I mean the kinds of people who don't really play that many video games, but for some reason really enjoy oblivion and skyrim, and writing on facebook about how much of a nerd they are. And girls. Why do they all love bethesda games? Not trying to trole, I'm genuinely curious.
>people still get hyped for Bethesda games
>people get hyped to play Bethesda games AT LAUNCH
>And yet it still has 34k players on Steam at any given time
>game that has been out for 4 years and regularly goes below $5 has more people playing it than a less than one year old game that hasn't had a significant discount yet
Because they're roller coasters that center around the player. Bethshit games have the RPG elements, but are dumbed down to the point where you don't need to think. Their games also have the action elements but, again, are dumbed down to the point where they require no skill. Those are the people who want to feel like an action hero without wanting to deal with the learning curve that comes with actual games.
Nope. Beth confirmed long ago that shit involving your past is contained in an optional side quest. The game is basically your character getting caught up in local affairs. Just like every other Fallout game.
Nigger three of the gamers I regularly talk to have been playing games since the fucking Apple 2e. They were taught how to code on the 2e in high school. They're hyped as fuck for Fallout 4.
>I'm guessing you only play open world games or?
Not at all but Beth-style RPGs are by far my favorite type of game
If only this actually worked we might actually get a decent Elder Scrolls 6
>season pass selling better than most games on steam
YOU LITERALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONTENT YOU'RE BUYING WILL BE! WHO THE FUCK IS BUYING THIS
Yeah, just like they reuse a bunch of animations. From the top of my head is running animation from Fallout 3 and the head crippling for Super Mutants from Fallout 3.
Hyped people who fell for Todd's lies I guess.
If its atleast 3 and NV style DLC it will be fine
Skyrim DLC was fucking garbage till Dragonborn, and that was because the bar was already set so low.
Buying DLC for the future at launch is retarded though
>yfw its 30 dollars for barely any content, while Witcher 3 has 2 expansions for 25 and the first one is already like 10 hours of content.
I really hope the modding takes off fast, I can see the settlement system being very easy to break open. Modders being able to add new towns and shit much easier than before, because IT JUST WORKS.
Yeah but I don't want to play Old School and RS3 is not what I fell in love with. It feels way too different.
Skyrim's mods were better than its DLC. Hearth had worse building than mods. Bethesda's pathetic.
Sorta the only positive thing I can say about what we've seen of Fallout 4 so far is that the gunplay looks much, much better. It still looks quite lacking though; and there was some melee combat floating around which was embarrassing to look at.
I'm hyped as fuck for Fallout 4 and have preordered the Pipboy Edition (likely will sell the pipboy for double what I paid for it). But I'm not dumb enough to buy a season pass when the devs themselves are on record saying that they don't even know what the expansions for this game will be.
>devs literally not saying what they will give you with the season pass
>this actually happened
I grew up with things looking like shit but being fun, or atleast keeping my attention.
To me, games have lost their real goal and instead have been too focused on looking better than the last or so on. I don't mind a great looking game, but I'd atleast rather it be fun as hell before all else. If I'm a fag for liking shit like Wizardry, Warcraft, diablo, Castle, classics in general, and liking modern day shit too (Tho I find them very lacking) then SHOW ME THE DICKs.
Anyway, fuck you guys Im gettin this
I dunno, I liked dawnguard. Was nice seeing them try for an actual in-depth companion and I think they did a pretty good job with the overall writing. The attempt at a branching storyline was surprising for bethesda games too. They always have one or two really good DLCs though. Ignoring how fucking terrible the rest of FO3 was, Point Lookout was certainly worth playing. And Shivering Isles was great.
Basically Hines and Howard said that the season pass is just there for people who want it. They aren't pushing it. They didn't even sound all that happy about it. Like they know it's a horrible practice but either Beth the publisher or the Zenimax suits said "Hey do this thing so we can get more money!".
Any new quest or companion mods will have to find some way to explain away that the player doesn't have a voice when interacting with that specific content, since I doubt most modders have Delaney on speed-dial.
Why aren't people making a bigger deal out of this? This ruins countless potential mods for fuck's sake.
>/v/ complains that protag voice acting is added
>then complains that mods won't have protag voice acting and will instead be using the text system that everyone wanted
What exactly were you guys wanting?
Honestly was the first thing I thought of when they announced the voiced protag. I'm sure dialogue conversion mods reverting it to how it was in previous games will be pretty popular, but a lot of quest authors don't want to make people change their entire game like that. I've had some fun ideas for how to handle it if you go to an entirely new land, but nothing for integrating that content into the existing world..
Those are literally the exact same thing you fucking retard. Including the voiced protag means that quest mods which want to integrate seamlessly with the base game need to find some way to account for it. I'd prefer no voice for the player at all.
Lolzers. Go the whole game with a voiced protag and then suddenly have him lose his voice in modded quests? It takes you out of the game, that's the problem. It makes modding to extend and add on to the gameplay impossible unless you go out of your way to mute him and get around the voiced protag.
1. Bethesda can charge for mods, individual modders can't ...
2 ... unless a modder has made a deal with Bethesda, of course.
Voiced protagonist really puts me off big time, I want to use the voice in my head cause I like to pretend the character is me, you know, like every RPG. I am going to remove the audio files for the voice if I cant toggle it off.
Should have invested in the australian company making engine with unlimited graphics
Don't call this a grave, call it the future you chose
So...my exact point you dipshit? Complain when they introduce a voiced protag "muh text options" then complain that mods will be using those very text options with no VA.
You're still getting what you wanted though (no VA) so why are you so upset friend?
>Screwdriver isn't grayscale
>Hurr they even made it colorful, jesus
I think in this instance it's pretty clear that you're more interested in finding a reason to hate the game rather than pointing out any actual flaws with it. Which isn't surprising for /v/, but I'd still expect a bit more subtlety.