Hiro told me to post here, don't ban me.
To fix /v/, just make Japanese video games a separate board.
Honestly, that may not fix /v/, but I don't care. I don't care about western games. People who play western games are normalfags ore failed normalfags who talk about blog shit, sjw's and other gay shit only they care about. They shit post all day about Todd Howard and Fallout and bring console war shit into threads about Japanese video games.
Western games are utter dog shit. Anybody who thinks this is a bad idea is a faggot who probably will make an argument that Skyrim is a good game and not the most popular walking simulator of all time. Just make a /vj/ board that is /v/'s version of /jp/ but, and this is important, just still let people talk about shitty westernized Japanese trash like MGS5 on /v/ so they stay here too.
Pic related, a great game made by a great company that you cannot talk about because idiots who think shit companies like Black Isle Studios make good games exist.
You're retarded. All that would accomplish would be more trolling, more shitposting and less good content on your threads.
What you're asking for is for us to filter the exact tastes you want into different boards. There's a perfectly good site that serves that kind of hugbox faggotry, it's called Reddit, so go the fuck over there. Alternatively, go to Cripple-Chan which also has boards for everything.
If you want to discuss specific games and are okay with complete circle-jerk faggotry, we have /vg/, otherwise you discuss whatever games you want on /v/. Stop being a fucking bitch.
so instead of 4 vidya boards full of shitposting, you want 5?
fuck you OP. Honestly, the only split /v/ ever needed was the /vg/ split.
Pokemon can easily be discussed, and are already discussed on other boards.
Retro Games was completely unnessessary
I agree with this.
Normalfags are the cancer of every fucking board. Even /a/ is suffering because of them.
Have you ever actually been to the other video game boards?
They are not full of shitposting. VR has no shitposting. /vg/ is full of faggot autist but it still has much less shitposting than /v/. /v/ is full of retarded western bullshit that comprises more than 80% of the board.
>Less good content on the threads
But Bayonetta 2 isn't noteworthy at all. Ninja Gaiden Black, DMC 3, even DMC 4 were much better games. Kamiya is a talentless fucking hack that had one fluke with the original Devil May Cry.
The reason a /vj/ is a terrible idea is because it will lead to hugbox circlejerking bullshit where anons fellate Taro and Kamiya as god's or worse, pretend the Neptunia games are anything other than fap material.
Even legitimately good games ultimately devolve into waifuism.
>Honestly, that may not fix /v/, but I don't care.
Stopped reading there since while I didn't agree with your statement to start with you proved you are just trying to start shit by saying that.
/v/ doesn't need to be split up yet again, especially not into a western/eastern games boards. If you have to split it, doing it by consoles would make more sense though I still think it'd be a horrible decision.
>hurr durr i want 2 boards to shitpost on
fuck off back to reddit you poof
>DMC4 is a better game than Bayonetta 2
Spotted the retard. You 100% don't even own a Wii U.
>Okami, Viewtiful Joe, Resident Evil 2 and Bayonetta are bad games!
>Kamiya is a hack
>Who even likes Taro
Literally the type of retard who would stay on /v/ and for the better. This is normal shitposting opinions on /v/ he is parroting when having know idea what he is talking about.
>Splitting it by consoles.
That's insanely retarded compared to splitting it by distinct game styles from east vs west. Not enough people in the world even own a Xbone to make a Xbone board. There are only ever 3 threads in a week about Xbone games.
>implying I would come to /v/ if I could go to /vj/
The only western game I've played in the last 5 years was Counter Strike and judging from the typical quality of the people inside the game itself I have never once thought to myself to seek out a CS community and mute people automatically when they talk in the game.
It's not just western games, I mean if it was that simple I could deal with it but it's not, it's the entire e-celeb shit and the whole indie/sjw bullshit that follows it. Each and every PC clown waiting for fallout 4 shitposting about 'weeb' games. I'm sick of it.
A Japanese game board would be a good thing.
We should make a separate board for licensed games as well. Two in fact. One for licensed /co/ games and one for licensed /a/ games. Sick of all the DBZ game discussion on the videogames board.
And people act like something similar has never happened when in reality it's the reason /jp/ exist and /a/ and /jp/ are both better boards. All the boards on 4chan with primarily Japanese interest are good boards and all the western ones are shit.
On a /vj/ there could be no e-celeb threads because it's not fucking video games.
I have fun playing Neptunia and you can't stop me
What we really need is a containment board for faggots who think it's okay for them to have a problem with weebs on a weeb imageboard.
It doesn't matter, you can't escape the shitposting no matter how hard you try. People will just browse both boards and shitpost in threads about games they don't like just like they do now.
>Step down from DMC4
Please stop this meme that just shows you don't know what you are talking about. DMC4 is half a game. You need more than great combat to be a good game. DMC4 has terrible level design and makes you repeat shit often, including the entirety of the game. The only thing it has going for it is it's combat and we are not judging these games for the fucking bloody palace modes alone.
The only one shitposting here is you. Just because someone's talking about asscreed or fallout doesn't mean it's retarded bullshit or shitposting.
There are plenty of great western games, just as there are plenty of shit japanese games. What there needs to be is a rule against weeb/west wars, same as console wars.
>What you're asking for is for us to filter the exact tastes you want into different boards.
People like him whined hard enough and got a sequestered /mlp/.
Hell, maybe if he shitposts enough nobody will be allowed to use reaction images from western games either.
I hereby propose three things.
One: OP IDs. Only OP posts will contain IDs, reset every 24 hours. When one person makes five or more OPs within 24 hours, their OP posts will have a hide/show list of threads they've made since the start of the day.
Two: People who relentlessly samefag, particularly by referencing their own posts four or more times in the same thread, will be given an in-thread ID in that thread alone. Anyone who does not samefag by replying to themselves will not be forced into using an in-thread ID. Should the OP do it in their own thread, their ID will be the same as their OP ID.
Three: Flame wars based on country of origin shall be punished in the same manner as console wars. No more of this weeb/west shit.
I don't want to stop you enjoying playing Neptunia anon. My problem is when that enjoyment leaves the game and turns into threads full of nothing but fapbait shit with fuck all game discussion. You can't honestly believe that's good posting.
There is not a single good Assassins Creed game and Bestheda has not even made a decent game in the last 10 years. Get it out of the board. Only a retard could have an opinion different than this, why should I be forced to share a board with them?
CoD used to be laughed at on /v/, now there are constant threads about it.
>waaah people enjoy it though
You literally have never been to a good board on 4chan and it shows.
So you have no idea what you are talking about and didn't even play Bayonetta 2. Good to know kohai.
I can get behind this. There's nothing inherently wrong with western games, just as there's nothing inherently wrong with Japanese games. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is just a shitstirrer and needs to be banned.
I'd argue all posters should have a single-thread ID though, just because they're not replying to themselves doesn't mean there isn't someone relentlyless shitposting on both sides of a discussion ie someone posting as both a militant mustard race and sonyfriend.
I really hope hiro doesn't listen to too much of the /qa/ shit because almost all of the new board ideas are from babies who cant handle anything they don't like. Just go to infinite chan and make your lame safe space board there.
Why do you want to share a board with those people anyway?
>FUCKING BABIES ALL NEED TO STAY RIGHT HERE FOR SOME ARBITRARY REASON EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LIKE THEM AND AM TELLING THEM TO LEAVE
DIFFERENT REGION OF GAMES IS NOT THE FUCKING PROBLEM
ITS CONSOLE WARS, MAINLY FROM NINTENYEAROLDS. CUT THEM FUCKING OFF ALREADY AND LET THEM ROT IN A CESSPOOL LIKE /VP/
REMOVE THE FUCKING TUMOR HIRO FUCKING PLEASE
And I'd argue that all posters having single-thread IDs is both counterproductive and will only result in more shitslinging for things one might have said hours ago in a lingering thread, as well as a way to start recognizing tone and way of writing across multiple similar threads. It's namefag lite, except mandatory and you can't take off your hat unless you completely change the way you write and change threads.
The only way I will ever support IDs is as some sort of punishment or shitposting avoidance system. We'll be able to tell low quality shills or shitposters who make dozens of the same thread apart, and we'll be able to tell samefags who reply to themselves. Furthermore, I also suggest a system where, should one poster receive a certain number of reports, they will automatically have their posts highlighted with an ID prior to banning. Should an OP be given an ID in their own thread, it will be the same as their OP ID.
The people who adhere to the culture and rules of the board and post about relevant stuff should not all be punished with everyone getting in-thread IDs at all times. Just give us a way to sort low quality repeat offender shit and I'll be happy.
This is the one last shot to save /v/.
Let the meme garbage, shitposting, and eceleb shit rot in /wv/.
/jv/ will be for the people who actually like and want to talk about video games.
Please Hiro. Do it for us. At least try it for a little while.
I'm more then capable of ignoring what i don't like. I am also capable of going to websites other then 4chan and so is everyone else. Demanding a community be split because you don't like a portion of what the community brings is stupid and selfish. No one makes you guys come here just go somewhere else for weeb discussions or better yet have the mods just ban shitposters.
Please, let them keep the name /v/.
I don't want /wv/ and /jv/ I just want /v/ and /jv/ that way jv will seem like a shitty spinoff and most normal people will go to /v/.
And to all this dumb fucking fragmentation argument, can somebody tell me how the creation of /vg/, /vr/ or /vp/ has changed fucking /v/ at all? People keep crying about splitting the user base or whatever, but the same old shit posters who like to be retards stayed here and the people in the fragmented spaces are happier.
>can somebody tell me how the creation of /vg/, /vr/ or /vp/ has changed fucking /v/ at all?
It made /v/ way shittier because everyone who actually likes video games left for those boards.
>Don't come to the Japanese ripoff image board now owned by the guy who made the Japanese board fuck off to the other place that doesn't exist so I can talk about shitty Fallout.
You never provided an actual argument. "I will ignore it" just goes to show that we are contributing nothing to your enjoyment of the board, so why does separating it into another board negatively effect you at all.
I didn't say that. I just answered how it changed /v/. and that was making it worse because /v/ is a shitpile and picking out the good bits that are left is all we can do for it at this point.
A split to /jv/ would be great.
So you've not played Iji? Hero Core? Terraria? Undertale? System Shock? Quake? Doom? Mech Warrior 2? The Diablos? Starcraft, which is pretty much the Korean national sport? No MMOs? Warframe?
How exactly do you define western game? Games made be people who don't live in Japan? Do you seriously think country of origin has an implicit link to the potential quality of the game?
What about Zelda? Would you call that a Japanese or a Western game? It gets released worldwide, and at most points in time has a very western feel to most of its content. Yet, most of the developers are Japanese, are they not? What about Mario?
There are a lot of games that don't fall very easily into western or japanese. A lot of them. By making that kind of fragmentation, they'd eventually be welcome on neither board because of people with their own personal interpretations.
The jap/west bullshit is just as cancerous as the console war faggotry. Get the fuck out of here.
Agree with everything OP said and will also repost what I've been posting in the other threads about this:
A Western /v/ would free us of:
>casual dudebro garbage
>bitching about SJWs ruining the industry since Japan does not care for them
>PKek elitism, Xboneheads, Sonyggers who praise their movie games and Nintendrones who defend NoA's retarded bullshit
>So you've not played Iji? Hero Core? Terraria? Undertale? System Shock? Quake? Doom? Mech Warrior 2? The Diablos? Starcraft, which is pretty much the Korean national sport? No MMOs? Warframe?
I've played a few, but no, not most of those, and if I want to discuss them, I could visit a western /v/ to talk about them, but I haven't played western games for a long ass time.
>How exactly do you define western game?
Anything made in the west, I suppose. Outside of Japan. Maybe include Asia?
>What about Zelda?
Made in Japan so it would go on the Japanese board. It's as simple as that. Just like Souls, Dragon's Dogma, Lost Planet, any game like that.
>The jap/west bullshit is just as cancerous as the console war faggotry. Get the fuck out of here.
/v/ is garbage. There's no saving it. We need to salvage the good bits that are left. I'd rather leave the memes, ecelebs, SJW, and other western problems behind.
I really don't care about the impending split of this board. I just want games to be representative of women, and other gender aside from the overused male stereotype. I want more visibility for games that do away with the toxic masculinity and unnecessary violence, and focuses more on the emotional aspect and touches on the unexpressed portion of the human psyche. Allow us to talk about the latest issues, and do not remove the threads about those people representing the good fight, like Anita, Brianna, and of course Zoe. Only remove the unnecessary ones that may be considered "shitposting" that begins with an obvious attack rather than a starting in a more positive note. This way, "gamers" and the so-called "sjws" may coexist without the hate and vitriol everyone seemed to be accustomed of.
>System Shock Quake Doom Mech Warrior 2 Starcraft
All fucking old games I can go to /vr/ to talk about. Also those games have become
Bioshock - Shit
New Doom - Looks of shit, 3 was pretty bad.
Mech Warrior - Dead minus a kickstarter
Diablo - Not my personal taste but could enjoy 2, 3 was trash
Starcraft - They became kikes and wanted me to buy the game 3 times, and I can talk about that on /vg/ anyway and have not seen a single fucking SC thread on /v/ in a while.
The threads themselves are so shit I don't care even though the game is actually fun. It's all shitposting. All of it. I have not seen a single Undertale thread not shitposting.
Nobody on /v/ but you
and mehas even played this.
>What about Zelda
This isn't even ambiguous. It's a Japanese game.
>It has a very western feel to it's content
No it doesn't. It pioneered everything it did. It created the camera system it used which was started with another Japanese game. Stop making shit up.
>There are a lot of games that don't fall easily into western or Japaense
Literally not true. For examle Dark Souls has no western equivilant except a western game that tried to rip it off after the fact. It acutally has no Open World and good level design along with actual combat that isn't floaty bullshit. There is not a single western game prior to it's release anything like it. Just not looking like anime is meaningless to the difference between east and west. Also if /v/ still wants to talk about that shit I don't care, I don't want to come here anyway and we on /vj/ could decide what is acceptable on /vj/ and I think most people wouldn't care because it would not have the shit posters from /v/ on the board to ruin threads about something like Undertale or Dark Souls.
Memes will never stop being a thing.
I can't even find any eceleb or SJW shit in the catalog. Are you sure you're not just getting triggered by the odd thread that pops up on occasion because you are incapable of ignoring them?
Making /vj/ won't make them go away, since the board will still be filled to the brim with westerners. They'll just find Japanese e-celebs and bullshit like that to talk about. E-celebs and sjw shit is already banned here - it would be banned there two, but the difference is that they'd post on two separate boards about it instead of one.
Your best bet is to learn Japanese and move to 2ch.
also all the mgs v and joost threads go to /jv/ dont act like it would be some perfect board free of shit posting. It would be the same people posting on both boards
>They'll just find Japanese e-celebs
Literally do not exist and the only shit posting that ever happened in a board like /jp/ is when Moot said how great it was and everybody went to check it out and then eventually left.
Weebs do not act like normal westerners because we are fucking weeaboos and
all want to be little girls.
Every game in your post goes on /vj/ just like Metroid Prime would because they are Japanese franchises.
Games like the new Strider would too. Even the new Castlevania can go because nobody even talks about that pile of shit anyway. You are just trying to make this complicated when it's very simple to any weeb.
/vr/ is stupid. Always has been. Just because a game is over five years old doesn't mean discussion of it is irrelevant.
>Wanted me to buy the game 3 times.
With more differences in story, gameplay, and length than there was in buying the original Starcraft twice. There's a thing called expansion packs.
More like shit taste on your part. ... Is what I'd say, but apparently you've played Iji, so that cancels out.
Just because a thread has some shitposting doesn't mean the whole thing should be forsaken, just the same with the board.
With more western sensibilities than not. The architecture. The character types. The weaponry. The enemies.
What does that have to do with anything? Plenty of western games have pioneered shit too. What relevance does that have?
Unfortunately, in the end, /vj/ would be no more than a splinter board. Containment boards like /vg/ and /vp/ serve an actual purpose for a ton of people, but there's no legitimate reason to make the separation between japanese and western games aside from this ridiculous sense of superiority that is no better, nay, that is JUST AS BAD as console war bullshit.
Do you actually go to /vr/? Does anyone? Because last I checked, it was a barren fucking wasteland. As far as I could tell, people would be far more likely to talk about retro shit over here on /v/ if it came up once in a while. And I honestly don't think /vj/ would be any different. There's lots of reasons to talk about both western and japanese games in the same thread of conversation. Making an arbitrary split like that, based on country of origin alone, would only hurt such discussions and actively breed superiority bullshit.
Why ruin a perfectly good thing because you've got some issue with a minority of bullshit you can't ignore? If you seriously need that kind of hugbox just go to the other chan and visit their /vj/.
Just like there are twitter threads for actual creators on /a/ or even /jp/ and nobody cares because it's actual fucking developers and not some random person who said something dumb and it triggered a faggot on /v/.
Yes. Alternatively, go to /vr/ because nobody on /v/ has played or talks about Wizardry.
/vr/ is a barren wasteland because the rules need to be updated badly. The PS2 is 15 years old. It's time to include it for retro games.
/vr/ should include all older game discussion in addition to emulators (whether or not they're a 'retro' console or not).
So you want /aco/ - /h/ shit to happen to one of the biggest boards of the whole website? Are you retarded? The only thing /v/ needs is decent moderation to remove the disgusting memery and marketing that has been ruining this board for quite some time.
>With more differences in story, gameplay, and length than there was in buying the original Starcraft twice. There's a thing called expansion packs.
Shiviring Isles was 20 dollars. That's an expansion pack. Starcraft HotS was 60 dollars. That's a fucking sequel, and no it was not worth 60 bucks.
I do not like a single block building game.
You are so used to how shit this place is now that you consider there only "some" shitposting about Undertale.
>With more western sensibilities
No. It doesn't at all. Devil May Cry has almost entiretly Western architecture, design, weapons, characters and it's distinctly Japanese. There is nothing American like it. Resident Evil 4 is the same way. Nobody is fucking saying "who would play a game not set in Japan!" Japanese people simply make better games and the people who like shitty western games are the cancer that make this board unbearable. If all they did was talk about shit that's fine, but they shit post in your threads and their threads and bring shit on like e-celeb threads.
>What does pioneering have to do with anything.
It means something isn't "western" if the Japanese literally invented it. FPS are a western genre. Even Wolfenstien was set in fucking Japan with samurai it would still be a western thing. It's not about the content. it's about the design philosophies. The difference between East and West is far greater than skin deep.
>It would just be a splinter
That's the point. There are far more western shit posters than there are people who like and just want to talk about Japanese games. The board would be slower with better content and much better overall. I don't care about how fast /v/ is when 90% of that comes from low quality shitposting.
>Why ruin a perfectly good thing because you've got some issue with a minority of bullshit you can't ignore
We are far past the point of "minority bullshit I can ignore."
I think a problem with moderation on /v/ today is that no matter what you moderate there will always be a large group of people kicking and screaming. I agree the rules should be held up to some sort of standard but it's hard when your biggest revenue page protests.
Persona 4 was fine. Didn't buy the 800 spinoffs. Persona 5 is moving in a better direction. SMT4 still gets a sequel and keeps it's original tone. What exactly is the problem here?
/v/ can't have decent moderation because it's too fast, and what faggots consider to be 'decent moderation' causes people to lash out in claims of MUH CENSORSHIP and just shitpost more. You can't keep them out either because the most dedicated of them will just keep shitposting and shitposting.
/v/ needs to just be turned into vidya random because that's what it is now. Then we need another board for actual discussion.
That is why fragmentation is inherently good. 4chan was never meant to serve this many people at once on a single board. It's an inherent limitation of imageboards. Just don't let it get to the point where you have 800 boards for the tiniest of differences.
It's not going to section people off, most people don't play games based on where they were made. What happens when someone brings maple story to /jv/? What happens when eastern games like STALKER come up?
/v/ already has fragmentation that doesn't work in the form of /vg/, /vr/, /vp/ and arguably /jp/. If you spend some time on these boards you'll realize they're dry of content and moderation or just empty.
You sure showed me by blowing 60 dollars on a game that no one has seen anything about other than a few leaks and said leaks look like fucking garbage
I've actually spent time on /jp/ when I'm in the mood, and it's extremely good and exactly what is advertised so I don't get your point there.
/vg/ is also much better if you want to talk abut or see anything about a particular game sans the threads like KS general where it's nothing but ERP.
In fact all your examples prove how better it is except VR which just needs to allow PS2.
People who play exclusively Japanese games are literally the most autistic people I've come across in my entire life, worse than fucking furries at this point, and this thread only proves that further. It's not about being a weeb, shit I like some weeb games myself but to restrict yourself and suck Nippon cock for the rest of your life is literally the most autistic thing this website has seen.
Yeah because all of the DOA threads talk about quality games not filled with a thousand dollars worth of DLC.
DOAX3 is being bough Day 0.
Please name all the good western games I've missed out on in the past 5 years, and don't mention indie games because I do play those but you can't talk about them on /v/ anyway so it's irrelevant. The best one I've played was The Witcher 2 and 3 and those were not even that great, just not horrible.
Does the truth hurt that much? Maybe you're right OP, let's have a /vj/, it will just be like /mlp/ a containment board for autism and school shooters. Make it a honeypot, please hiroshima. As long as I can still discuss japanese vidya on /v/ though.
>/vj/ is going to be a literally /vg/ again
and the same waifufaggots and weeabos will post on /v/ and you know it.
Just look /vg/ and /v/ waifu threads. Nothing is going to change.
That's an ez input for shitters who can't input. Exploiting the weak while still releasing new content in a sensible manner.
> Hell even business wise it's better than MK.
Naw. MKX is pretty normal as Fighting games go and on the better side.
KI is actually developed decent and doesn't have a bunch of gamebreaking bugs and a shitty meta like DOA. Fuck DOAfags don't even play DOA multiplayer. The problem with KI is that it's on xbone and M$ really fucked up on this console.
There isn't a single modern Western game that is worth playing. Western industry was ruined by "cinematic expeirences", massive casualization and SJW pandering. The only people besides Japs that can still make decent games are Slavs.
Deus Ex HR, the Metro series, the Stalker series, mount & blade, paradox grand strat, divinity original sin, witcher, just cause, cities skylines, man I could go on all day. But I wasted my time cause you're gonna nitpick this list of games you've not played and make apply criticism that could very well also apply to your precious Japanese games, maybe even more so.
Yes. Deus Ex is exactly the kind of western thing I like in movie and book form, but the gameplay was just so outstandingly bad and boring I couldn't like it. Jensen's voice was also terrible. The game had good art direction but the character models themselves just looked disgusted. I tried my hardest but I couldn't beat the game. A combination of being disgusted by everybody and terrible gameplay just prevented me from doing so.
I can understand why people like it though. If it played like a MGS game or even Crysis I probably would of really enjoyed it.
>but the gameplay was just so outstandingly bad
How? It's a pretty standard FPS with stealth elements, if you enjoy the setting I don't think the choice style of gameplay would impede you that much to where you couldn't even complete it.
You didn't love the level design and the way it allowed you to get through certain sections in multiple ways, the way the game rewarded you for exploration? Maybe try going for more of a stealth run, heck non-lethal if you feel up to the challenge , it makes a lot of these great things stand out quite a bit.
This was not made in the past 5 years.
>Deus Ex HR
>Mount and Blade
I also do not like the combat in that. I had a friend explain to me in detail why he loved it and tried it and could not get behind the combat.
>Paradox grand strategy
Map simulators bore me. I've only played EU3 and hear it's a more "light wieght" one and it's already too much for me.
>Divinity Original Sin
I do not like games like Diablo. I could of swore I played a game with a name like Divinity that was more of a third person RPG, but mechanically I have deep issues with games like that.
Literal post you are responding to.
I played Just Cause 2. Open world games get insanely boring insanely fast. It was fun for a few hours and then a few more hours with multiplayer.
I don't even like games like that.
I accidentally skipped this. I never played Last Light and never beat 2033, but I did almost beat 2033 before never playing again for no good reason and I did actually enjoy it for my entire time playing.
That being said, I could have not played any of those games you mentioned and not feel like I was missing out. Most of them are not even terrible. For the genre they are in, I actually enjoy them more than others (IE Just Cause is one of my "favorite" open world games but I don't like them that much in the first place.) The original argument mentioned how autistic I am, but honestly to play a paradox game or even something like Cities Skylines you would have to be autistic. I would rather just go out and hike. That being said, if you enjoy them, more power to you. I won't say they are shit because I fundamentally do not like them because of personal preference.
Why stop yourself from playing them though, you'll find subpar experiences just as much in japan, especially since most of them are moving towards the mobile market and starting to give less shit about full home console games. It's just as bad as restricting yourself to one platform in my opinion, I don't understand people who do that.
Single player JRPG's are probably my favorite genre, but my favorite types of western games are actually arena shooters and I have a lot of hours in those. Western games used to be very fast paced and fun but not anymore. Now they are all slow, "realistic" and boring to me.
For me, a standard FPS is something like Doom. Deus Ex is really slow and you die insanely fast, even with a bunch of upgrades. Not only that, it is one of those games that does not do cover shooting well at all in my opinion. The game could of been made more bearable by being a third person shooter. I mean, for example, during this time I played, enjoyed and beat Mass Effect 2 after having already enjoyed Mass Effect 2 and felt even though it had it's share of problems and the non alien characters still looked disgusting (they took that one hot model and made her character model ugly as shit, Miranda was her name I think) I would say it was overall a relatively good game. Deus Ex's gameplay was just really bad.
Weebs, you can pretend you're not as vile shitflingers as the western pigs you so desperately wish you weren't, but you're just as retarded and prone to ill-informed knee-jerk opinions as the rest of us.
>Deus Ex HR
Casualized shit with piss filter and awful gameplay.
>the Metro series
>the Stalker series
>mount & blade
>paradox grand strat
Parakek rehashes have been terrible recently.
>divinity original sin
Another WRPG with shitty clunky combat. No thanks.
Mediocre open world garbage.
Looks like the only real exception there, but I don't give a fuck about city building games.
There is no restriction. I have never told myself "no western games." Western games have stopped being good, or are games like mentioned in that post that don't cater to my interest at all. Games like Assassins Creed, Batman and Shadows of Mordor are hailed as these amazing games when they are all just really sub par experiences with high production values. That doesn't do it for me. I don't care how shit a game looks, it just has to play really well and be fun. If a western game was announced that fit this description I will play it. I am going to try Overwatch because TF2 was a really fun before they added 8000 items and even now it's a passable experience. I have the Unreal Alpha and enjoy that even though all the levels are blocks. I enjoy indie games made in the west. Shovel Knight was great. I liked Bastion and Transistor, even despite their flaws. I don't have any arbitrary restriction on what I like, I just don't like main stream western games, and you can't talk about something like Transistor on /v/ anyway, and I do like mainstream non mobile Japanese games, so a division of /v/ into /v/ and /vj/ would mean I would be with a bunch of faggots who just generally don't like western shit too released nowadays too and would be a much better board.
I enjoy plenty of things, even mediocre things as long as I find them fun.
What about those of us who do want to actually talk about the games but get posts ignored because they aren't
>look at this nep
>which nep would you fuck?
>uni is my universe
>I'm going marry blanc!
>I can't beat Noire help!
You have /e/ and /u/ if you just wanna image dump.
Nope. Like I said, I already have the new UT on my PC. I think it's fun and really enjoyable already.
I also specifically said I do like indie games. I've already beaten Hotline Miami. I am currently playing Lisa as well.
For me the standard is exactly what it says, "the standard". Arcade shooters aren't abundant. What I'm getting from what you're telling me is that the game was too hard for you and you could not adapt to make more rational decisions with higher stakes.
What is there to say about the games at this point that hasn't been said? They have been out for such a long time now. You can have "discussion" about the new ones, but general discussions about the series are obviously going to devolve into the typical shitty "which Nep has the purest farts." posting.
Well yes, your logic is objectively true because that is what standard FPS have become so how I personally feel does not matter.
However, the second statement is wrong. The game is not too hard. It's boring. Forcing me into a certain play style to win is boring. That is why I said I do not like the game and the gameplay. Crysis at the real difficulties even have a similar problem but it's not even as bad as HR.
That being said, if you enjoy stealth shooters that aren't MGS you would probably like HR. I don't think the combat is broken or anything, I said it's bad and that is by my own subjective standards. If that is your thing I'm not going to argue that you should also think it's bad because it's your opinion and we are both entitled to them.
Metroid Prime is a game by a Western developer that was published by an Eastern company. The Eastern company owns the IP.
Just Cause 2 is a game by a Western developer that was published by an Eastern company. The Eastern company owns the IP.
Which game belongs in /v/ and which belongs in a hypothetical /vj/?
Metroid Prime may be a Western game, but Metroid is a Japanese franchise. Therefore, it belongs on /jv/.
All non-Japanese developers are "Western". This includes Chinese and Korean.
Just Cause is a western game made by a western studio published by a western studio.
The sequel is made by the same people, but the publishers were bought by Japs. Nothing else changed. Nobody actually thinks Tomb Raider for example is a "Japaense game."
Retro however got a Japanese IP, worked on it and also the Japs were still part of the process of creation at Retro. It can go on /vj/. Any Nintendo game can.
I'm seeing both Jap and Western names there. I think it would be one of those rare cases where you could allow it on both boards.
Sleeping Dogs was originally part of the True Crime series and made by United Front Games and Square Enix LONDON.
Another example is Project Hammer. If Project Hammer was released as it was originally meant to be it would also be a western game but honestly nobody would care if you talked about it on /vj/ because you are just trying to be autistic for the sake of argument.
Nobody would have these questions. The only shit post that would happen would be IS DARK SOULS VJ? to which it would be sticked with a mod saying yes then everybody would go about their business.
>Do you just not like turn based combat?
DoS is infinitely slower than any turn based JRPG I've ever played, the closest thing in slowness I can compare to is Earthbound, but yeah, I have to admit I like to speed up the combat when I play JRPGs in an emulator or if they allow me to do that. I generally prefer JRPGs that don't have turn based combat. They're some of the best.
>Sleeping Dogs was originally part of the True Crime series
If we're going by scrapped development history, Plok! for the SNES would be a Japanese game because it was originally going to be developed by Nintendo.
>The only shit post that would happen would be IS DARK SOULS VJ? to which it would be sticked with a mod saying yes then everybody would go about their business.
I see GO BACK TO VIDYA BOARD [X] all the time on here, on /vp/ and on /vr/. Combine that with the Western vs. Japanese shitposting on /v/ and it'll be unbearable.
If we're splitting /v/ into Western and Japanese, then please contain the Undertalefags to the Western one. Just because their garbage has a few "due anime lmao" references and was somewhat inspired by JRPGs does not make it okay go on /jv/.
>To fix /v/, just make Japanese video games a separate board.
No, don't do this. We don't need another fucking split, we need mods who actually read the damn rules and follow them exactly as written.
Yeah sure, split the boards like that. Because obviously it won't just make people come into the japanese /v/ to say how much western games are better and vice versa while triggering everybody into a massive shitposting parade.
No sir, no danger here, not in this place filled with the most intelligent and calm individuals. Nuh-uh, nah, nope.
I agree with this. Jap board can also have best character threads too without normies sperging their shit.
It's time to end this nonsense. We're all tired of having to deal with westernfags.
>People like him whined hard enough and got a sequestered /mlp/.
That actually worked though. I haven't seen /mlp/ shit here since it happened and the people on the board don't seem to ever complain about the fact that they can't post about mlp on other boards.
reposting best argument
All the fucking cancer in this thread hoping to split up and destroy /v/. What the fuck.
I'd be willing to bet my life the only people who want western and eastern games split up are fucking jrpg weaboo dicklords.
How fucking retarded is this? So Dark Souls threads will be in eastern /v/? MGS threads will be in eastern /v/? Despite both of them adopting western style gameplay?
Are all you faggots complaining about 'console wars' going to get rid of 'pc masterace'? - You dick minglets do you realize that half the fun of /v/ comes from it's combative, angry nature right?
Do you filthy newfags want to turn this into a new neogaf? Make it more like reddit?
Half of you dipshit no brain chrome drome mother fuckers complaining about
>b-b-ban e celeb
>b-ban console wars
>b-ban any sort of trolling
are some of the most gay, newfaggoted, reddit tier mongol retards that infest /v/. You know what I do when I see a thread I don't like?
I DON'T FUCKING CLICK ON IT.
But if those things, which can all be brought back to relating to vidya, become popular on the board - then let them remain. If the only way to stop them being popular is you little piss babies crying to the mods to have them banned/removed - maybe you should remove yourself from this website, you fat neckbeard pig.
I can't wait to shitpost my weebshit in /vj/ and destroy it from the inside
Please Hiro, let /vj/ happen. We don't want to share board with insufferable westernfags anymore.
You are a minority. You don't matter to the majority, your opinion means nothing to the majority.
Don't like it? Leave. No one cares if you are mad at the way things are. Just leave. Go somewhere else.
Wait I thought you were asking for a /jv/ board because you wanted less shitposting.
But what you actually want is for threads about games you don't consider good to be removed even if they have good discussion?
That's pretty fucking retarded my man.
I think /v/ would be greatly improved if it just focused more on the sexism, cisexim, transphobic, homophobic and misogyny present in each and every video game ever made..
Trust me, Ive been playing video games my whole life
These threads have now fully devolved into a few users pushing out their personal pet issues and deranged grudges, east vs west and console war shitposting garbage and debates.
It perfectly showcases the worst aspects of /v/.
You are the problem with this board. You are the biggest hypocritical piece of shit that plagues the biggest issues that surround this board.
If you can't see why you are the problem that is why this board is garbage.
You western and normalfags already lost.
The new words filter is proof of that.
I want what moot said realized. He knew 4chan was a sinking ship if it was keep going to adapt itself to normie influence. Right now /v/ is like GameFaqs. This shit needs to be saved.
So if Dark Souls adopted a Western style of gameplay, can you tell me the game whose gameplay it was trying to adopt?
Because I can tell you Final Fantasy adopted Wizardy style gameplay and everything else, so we can consider that a western style Japanese game as well as Dragon Quest.
I've been in all these threads since the start. It's all the same shitposts now. The same east vs west images, the same regurgitated opinions, the same blatant shitposting bait made to anger.
>It would pretty much be Neptunia, DOA, and Blazblue circlejerks with no one playing games
That's because there's not much to talk about with them, but if you go into a DoA thread or a BB thread talking like a scrub and whining about mechanics you don't understand, someone who knows their shit will be there to shut your bitching down every time.
prove me wrong
Most of it are CDPR shills. They love shitposting other games. They've been doing it all year without mods stepping in since mods are incompetent. Anyone in a Witcher thread will after five minutes realize what insecure fuckers those Polacks are.
If I'm playing both MGS and Witcher why should I have to browse two different boards for it? They're all videogames. Ther'es no "MY BOARD WILL BE PURE OF SHITPOTING AND PROTECTED BY GODLY MODS 24/7 FOREVER AND EVER!!!".
This retarded fucking westfag in action.
Look at this shit. Just more shitposting, every single post is a form of bait or just garbage. Can't you people fucking see this?
Why do you people intentionally and deliberately try to make /v/ worse?
>There is not a single good Assassins Creed game and Bestheda has not even made a decent game in the last 10 years. Get it out of the board. Only a retard could have an opinion different than this, why should I be forced to share a board with them?
>CoD used to be laughed at on /v/, now there are constant threads about it.
>But what you actually want is for threads about games you don't consider good to be removed even if they have good discussion?
>More proof western retards cannot read and should be contained to /v/.
What part did I not understand?
>Honestly, that may not fix /v/, but I don't care
I don't dislike japanese games except JRPG's. Having a board for 'japanese games' would turn into shitty, filthy infested boards like /a/. There would be zero good discussion.
>thinking games like dark souls or dragon quest could even exist if not for the existence of the west
end yourself suddoku style senpai
>examplifying why weaboos shouldn't get what they want beccause they whine about it a lot
>defending the splitting up of /v/
your post is literally just a complaint about people criticizing legitimate things pls go.
>triggered by western games
back to tumblr
>posting weaboo avatar
>thinking it's an argument
top kek had a good laugh
You guys can stop trying to pretend this is even possible to happen.
The results are clear, /v/ is not getting split any further. Deal with it weeaboos.
After a while, you stop giving a shit about /v/ since this place is overrun by NeoFaggers anyways. There's no saving /v/. But atleast we can save a part of it.
So we can be rid of retards like him.
So this isn't about improving /v/ at all but you wanting your own private hobby board for yourself where you can ban all the games and users you don't like and throw around buzzwords at every turn like westernfag normiefag neofag tumblrfag etc etc?
But I like games from both sides of the compass, anon.
Other anons have said it, all /v/ needs is better moderation. I'm not even saying that LOL threads or anything like that need to go, just that obvious bait threads and console war bullshit shouldn't be tolerated, and get pruned within a couple minutes of appearing.
Instead of making another goddamned board to moderate, just put more, better qualified mods on this one. As it stands, the mods only intervene when they see something they personally don't like, and do jack shit to upkeep the board. They'll strike down civil, fun, late night off-topic discussion about hot sauce, but leave NEVER EVER bullshit up until it image caps.
No I want to improve /v/. But I know it's impossible with westernfags like you around who keeps parading their shitty taste and becomes emotionally offended when someone talks about a girl in a videogame. I've long learnt to adjust my expectations.
>souls follows a wrpg format
>guy who made it literally said he used to brokenly read english folk tales as a child and used them for inspiration
>inspired by berserk also - writer of berserk also inspired by western fantasy
>not understanding that jrpg and wrpg don't simply mean where they were made, but the style of game they inhabit
I guess all you motherfuckers called chinese restaurants in america 'american restaurants' and american food, because it was made there? right?
There is pretty much nothing to talk about for any /vj/ game if it's purely weeaboos. Weeaboos are ass at video games and care more about aesthetics and merchandise than gameplay. It would be the same as /a/ with cancerous threads about jerking off together over the internet.
>its a banable offense to talk about any possible selling of data by 4chan
>people still trust this chink
>But I know it's impossible with westernfags like you around who keeps parading their shitty taste and becomes emotionally offended when someone talks about a girl in a videogame
Why do you assume this about me just because I'm criticizing your bad idea? How am I a westernfag when you don't know what I play? I prefer japanese games myself.
You don't sound like a stable rationally minded person, you sound like a person with a huge chip on their shoulder and paranoid grudge, and fueled by mostly hatred and bitterness. You don't care about /v/, you're just a ban happy control freak.
This is why /v/ will never improve, because people like you keep hammering on with your retarded "suggestions".
I hate how they're so incapable of knowing what off-topic threads to delete and what to keep. Like for example some history-based game that evolves into talking about Ceasar's battles against the Gauls? Keep that shit. People who like the games probably also like that and it's on-topic.
People who talk about female streamers on Twitch? Instant delete.
I don't have much hope for /v/ moderation. I just see incredible selection where they let Sony shitposting threads persist until bump limit while they delete the slightest Nintendo dislike thread and for some reason also hate video game girl threads because God forbid you use 4chan to post images. Or how they're so incapable of filtering out shills, like when Indivisible shills keep making the same threads over and over again.
>mfw god of war is a greek game
>mfw jade empire is a chinese game
>no longer a jrpg
>now it's a japanese game
>meaning a game with all the trappings of western fantasy, inspired by western fantasy, uses western fantasy in all of it's design gets put in an eastern board
fuck off to reddit
>eastern and western boards
>now single nations
fuck off weaboo.
If I can get a board where I don't have to see stupid e-celebrity, crossboard memeposting, SJW bait articles, and Indie game shilling, it would be that much better for everyone. If it has to be /jv/, then let it happen.
>. I just see incredible selection where they let Sony shitposting threads persist until bump limit while they delete the slightest Nintendo dislike thread and for some reason also hate video game girl threads because God forbid you use 4chan to post images. Or how they're so incapable of filtering out shills, like when Indivisible shills keep making the same threads over and over again.
That has nothing to do with moderator's selecting which is allowed and which isn't, it's just based on the fact that there sometimes aren't any mods on at any given time, nor can they see all of the hundred threads and thousands of posts up at the same time.
>you sound like a person with a huge chip on their shoulder and paranoid grudge, and fueled by mostly hatred and bitterness.
Yes, because I've browsed /v/ for more than a week. Your naivety will end some day.
>Why should I have to deal with westfag shitposters who always derail my threads?
Why do you think it's "westfag shitposters" and not just shitposters? Again you have some paranoid delusions, just like 'westfags" do about "weebs". You need to get over yourself and stop this.
Those won't be free from /vj/ since there isn't enough moderation to go around in the first place. There are a finite limited number of mods.
Lots of shitposting threads happen for many games.
If half of the threads on /v/ were about those shit games and the other half were about Japanese games I would not care. The problem is those retards who like those games are the ones with the massive amount of shit posting in ALL the threads.
Also, in that comment I was directly replying to the person saying there were a bunch of amazing western games. I never said anything along the lines of >The problem with /v/ is talking about those games because those games are shit
You can literally continue reading the fucking thread to get that, but you won't, because you are a western game fan and can't comprehend the concept of lurking because you have to get in your GOTCHA arguments.
/v/ - Videogames (all games, no e-celebs, no anita, no twitter, no kickstarters, no shady sites)
/wv/ - Weebogames (no dark souls, no mgs, no nintendo, no atlus, no square, no tecmo, just weeb games with panty shots)
>le cinematic experiences
>Gone Home, Life is Strange and other awful tumblr pandering shit
>dudebro console shooters
>constant bitching about SJWs
>meme shitposting in general
>PKek elitism, Xbots, Sonyggers who love movie games, Nintendrones who defend NoA's retardation
>waifu threads (these would exist on Westkek /v/ as well though, just look at The Witcher or Skyrim general on /vg/)
>occasional censorship complaints
>console wars would exist, but could be easily moderated
Two: People who relentlessly samefag, particularly by referencing their own posts four or more times in the same thread, will be given an in-thread ID in that thread alone. Anyone who does not samefag by replying to themselves will not be forced into using an in-thread ID. Should the OP do it in their own thread, their ID will be the same as their OP ID.
This sounds amazing.
But a lot of "SJW bait" stuff is about japanese games. Remember Dragon's Crown? your perfect /vj/ utopia is nothing but a pipe dream. it'll be full of the same shitposting, because that's what 4chan users do on every board.
OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE
Sorry semperpie, but a few cutscenes is nothing compared to a JRPG that's literally dungeon crawl into conversations with zero player input and long ass attack cutscenes for every move you choose. Static enemies with static choices that is nothing but linear patterns in a lazily built game is what 90% of /vj/ would discuss.
There is a reason why the west prefers multiplayer over single player.
>being this mad that Japan doesn't pander solely to his sensitive cuuck feelings
Stick to western games so your feelings aren't hurt.
Why be against it? We can do a trial run and see how it turns out for a month or so. If nothing changes, then go back to a single /v/, but if there's a difference in quality on both boards, then clearly it should stay.
>because you are a western game fan and can't comprehend the concept of lurking because you have to get in your GOTCHA arguments.
More deranged nonsense, this is pure shitposting, why are you doing this? it's so transparent you're just trying to flamebait.
>Lots of shitposting threads happen for many games.
Sure. I wont deny that. Every company is getting a lot of flak.
Xbox probably the least because there's no xbox fans here so shitposters dont have anybody to bait.
But for the last two months or something we've been getting bombarded by permanent Nintendo shitposting threads. Much more than anything else, always the same posts, always the same images.
And because of the frequency they are getting posted you will see some of them actually get deleted.
Plenty of them still hit the bump limit though.
That guy is pretty much full of shit.
He has been spamming his shit image on /qa/ too.
I mean come on. Anybody who uses the term Nintendogaf is 100% shitposter console warrior material.
Tell me ONE reason why splitting the bard by platform (nintendo, sony, xbox, pc) is bad.
It would virtually kill all consolewars.
Hard mode: do not use the word circlekerk, banter, ignore
my feeling aren't hurt
you weeb just want panty shots. No problem with that. I hope you'll have your containment board, so I can talk about other "western" eastern games
It's impossible to improve /v/ without a mass exodus. The board is massive. Do you think anything that happens will make the majority of people who make it shit now suddenly stop making it shit?
The only solution is to get rid of them. This would trigger them, so the next best solution is to create /jv/, where we all go, which is actually /v/, and let them keep the name because saying we should get the name would trigger them, and there are more of them than us anyway.
You cannot cure peoples retardation with rule changes or easily evadable bans. The only solution is to cut off the cancer and salvage what you can of the body.
Because it would affect both boards dramatically. What if the vast majority of /v/ prefers both regionalities being on the same board and being under the same roof and catalog?
or do you guys prefer to reddit model of a separate segregated board for every single possible subject?
You can't have your cake and it it too, fag. If we're splitting into western /v/ and eastern /v/, we'll be taking ALL the Japanese games with us and you'll be left with the wasteland that is the western game industry.
Because I play both Playstation and PC games. I bet most people on /v/ stick to multiplet platforms.
>western eastern games
Man, it baffles me how retarded westernfags can be.
>You can't have your cake and it it too, fag. If we're splitting into western /v/ and eastern /v/, we'll be taking ALL the Japanese games with us and you'll be left with the wasteland that is the western game industry.
weebs will disagree with this
Still haven't named that wrpg format it follows, not to mention the exact same argument works for Final Fantasy, but to a greater degree because I can actually name the WRPG it almost blatantly rips off.
Also >Dark Souls is based off of a Japanese manga, therefore it is western.
The entirety of Japanaese anime is also inspired by western Cartoons therefore everything east is west :^)
>>But for the last two months or something we've been getting bombarded by permanent Nintendo shitposting threads. Much more than anything else, always the same posts, always the same images.
Nothing different from sony stuff or microsoft stuff or ea stuff or ubisoft stuff for the past 5-7 years dude
Does everyone in this thread have nothing but rants about stupid petty fantasy grudges?
Because most games are multiplatform and people don't want to go to 4 different boards just to talk about 1 game between them.
Literally nobody will disagree to it but westernfags when they realize how empty and dead this medium is without the Nips you so love to shit on.
We're taking all the good games. And the waifus. Enjoy being in a miserable state of hell with CDPR and Undertale shills.
>You cannot cure peoples retardation with rule changes or easily evadable bans.
There is nobody to enforce your board split regionality rules, just like there is nobody to enforce against shitposting. Your plan has already failed.
I cna't believe you people get roped into this blatant shitposting. You're probably doing it deliberately too, just to push more east vs west horseshit shitposting. Do you think it's not transparent?
If it's made by Japanese people in Japan, put it in /jv/
If it's made by western people in the west, put it in /wv/
The onyl problem I see is if there's a collaborative game by the two regions.
Again you're only driven by hatred and grudges, and deliberately want to create a bad board in your wake as REVENGE. Why would any admin listen to you when you talk like this with obviously antagonistic deranged shitposting? What is wrong with you?
>Nothing different from sony stuff or microsoft stuff or ea stuff or ubisoft stuff for the past 5-7 years dude
You can dismiss it all you want. Doesnt change that its like that right now.
If you cant pick up shitposting patterns then you either lack the ability or dont visit the place often enough.
I am not denying that every side is getting some shit here. But often its more extreme for one than for others.
It fully depends on what kind of autismal obsessed shitposter you got ruining the board currently.
Remember the Ruggarrell PC Bloodborne posts? That was a nonstop assault for months too.
This si the kind of idiot who shitposts all day in western game threads and spergs about the eastern game he hates. With a board split, we wouldn't have to deal with fuckers like that.
This is how NeoFaggers rationalize to themselves that they are the center of the world and that anything inherently Japanese is made for pedophiles. It's a mental shield that still allows them to shit on Japan for being pedophiles and misogynists. I wonder how Hiro feels that a big part of /v/ feels that way about his country.
Read the thread. I've had normal discourse with every single fan of western games who didn't act like a confrontational retard and didn't even call every game they like shit and said western games I've played and enjoyed.
I'm not baiting anything. When dealing with a retard I don't see why I should be "nice". I don't want to deal with you at all, I want a separate board.
And it was still about a JAPANESE GAME thus it would be brought up in the JAPANESE GAME THREADS and there would be nothing you can do to stop it because THERE ARE NO MODS
Again it all comes down to mods not your retarded board split ideas
I am driven by experience that you cannot share a board with thousands of NeoFaggers who believe that if they don't come and derail every Japanese game with "weebshit" and "pedoshit", they're not doing their jobs.
I'm tired man. I just want to talk vidya. If /v/ can't be that place, then fuck this.
>/wv/ - Weebogames
do it Hiro!
I can't stand weebs anymore
I also like the opposite:
>if you like japanese games you MUST like waifu shit and if you dont you dont like japanese games after all!
This hasnt popped up in these threads yet but its rather common.
>But often its more extreme for one than for others.
Prove it with data. Why should hiro listen to you about this?
You're talking the exact same way about "western fags".
There would be no ambiguity with the mods of /jv/ just like /a/ now post hiroshima and /vr/. The reason mods act the way they do on /v/ is because they have to cater to a huge audience. Your job is much easier if you can just enforce the rules and direct people who break them to /v/, where their shit posting bullshit probably isn't against the rules anyway.
Plus all Japanese focused boards self moderate too because the board culture isn't as cancerous.
The SJW related shitposting in /jv/ would be literally:
>Hahaha look at these retarded tumblrinas thinking the Japs care about what they think
And that's it.
Friend, I am FOR the /jv/ split. I will definitely enjoy my dark souls threads in an eastern /v/.
Then let the mods sort it out. I assure you, /jv/ posters would make sure to report garbage threads like that much more often if it happened on their own turf. We have nothing to lose over this split.
I'm actually pretty puzzled when I see this kind of deep autism when the weebs express it.
I mean, I'm the type of guy who believes that Japan has produced what I call the better games. But that's only after rethinking about my tastrs and what I play.
There's like no western games like Dragon's Dogma, Silent Hill 2, DMC series, Souls games, Guilty Gear...
But still most of the jap games I like shitposted to oblivion, or turns out to be some intense waifufaggotry. DD always had some great stuff on it when it wasn't about she-goat and jewtits, while GG threads are shit since I'm the only one talking about gameplay.
What I'm trying to say with it us basically is that you weebs are pathetics foreskin suckers that are surely the biggest cancer of all the board. Never in my life I do imagine to share a board with you about games that I like. You'll never be able to make some good shit like Doom threads or old wRPGs. You're just pathetic and need to end your lives.
>There would be no ambiguity with the mods of /jv/ just like /a/ now post hiroshima and /vr/. The reason mods act the way they do on /v/ is because they have to cater to a huge audience. Your job is much easier if you can just enforce the rules and direct people who break them to /v/, where their shit posting bullshit probably isn't against the rules anyway.
It's not about choices, it's about the fact that there aren't enough and never will be enough mods to cover everything, even if the board was split. You people are so fucking stupid.
It's way less common and hasn't popped up because Japanese games have so much variety. Just look at this thread, you have some idiot arguing that MGS and Souls are western games because they have some "western influences" despite being fully made by the Japanese.
>deliberately want to create a bad board in your wake as REVENGE
Whether a west/v/ is good or bad depends on its posters, not the jp/v/ posters
Unless you're saying that a board with nothing but western games is automatically bad
>Prove it with data.
Guess I should make a cherry picked picture like that original guy.
>Then let the mods sort it out
The mods won't sort it out, they haven't sorted it out on /v/, why would they sort it out on /vj/? There aren't enough of them for fucks sake. This whole /vj/ utopia oasis you retards have in your heads WILL NEVER FUCKING HAPPEN because it ALL relies on mods doing their jobs, and they can't. How do you not fucking understand this basic fucking shit?
It seems like the are only around 3 posters or so who really care about this terrible idea, mostly the ones who keeps going on about being called names by the evil westernfag gang who bully them.
I have no desire for revenge.
If /v/ kills itself I don't care. I just want a place to post and where the shit posting is kept to the levels it used to be in the past everywhere in 4chan but /b/. The easiest solution is to just make /jv/.
Elitism is one of the core principles of this site. Lurk more.
>WEEB POSTING IS SO PROBLEMATIC EVEN THE DINK IN CHARGE OF THE WEBSITE WANTS TO CONTAIN IT
Why have such an immensely destructive board split if you're not even sure if it'll work? /v/ and the whole games industry isn't so clearly cut up between west and east, it's all one integrated thing for many people past some niche games, splitting it up is hugely destructive, doing that on a whim and a revenge fantasy sounds like petty horseshit.
Even if he is talking like the western guys, his opinion aligns with us other eastern guys, so he would get along with us and it's just more reason to segregate the boards.
Why should we be understanding of the shitposting west faggots when they will just continue to multiply and be shit?
Because of the fact that, if mods do their jobs at all, we wouldn't even be arguing about a board split in the first place. Mods would keep the shitposters in line and everything would still stay as is.
>make separate /nin/ board
>Sonyggers now shitpost agains Xbots and PCfats
>Sonyggers now shitpost agains PCfats
>Sonyggers vanish from 4chan
No need to split. Just make a /vws/ board, aka videogame waifu shittery.
Then you can talk about your japanese crap as you always did on /v/. Would be a good riddance, so we'll be able to talk about the games rather than the fapbait on it.
I mean, /vws/ already exists, and it's called /e/ or /h/. That's where you pathetic weebshit should go.
>Moderation will be easier when the parameters of discussion are greatly limited. Now mods are confused whether to pander to sensitive westernfags or upset Japfags.
It's not about choices you fucking retard, mods don't go "uhhhh should i ban this because some braindead east vs west bullshit", mods go "[never sees it because lost in report queue]".
You people really do have some huge fantasy going on in your heads about how this shit works
And they never belonged on the site in the first place and the people that are against this split don't seem to realize that's why we want it so bad.
Look at fucking /a/. They have their own problems, but they deal with so much less normalfag shitposting than /v/ that it's laughable. Elitism is what will keep this site alive in the end.
Do you actually browse any boards like /a/ or /jp/? They are much better than /v/ and even self moderate. It doesn't have to be perfect, it just can't be fucking /v/.
>You'll never be able to make some good shit like Doom threads
Then just talk about that on /v/? You sure you aren't the autistic one here?
That's the thing. We can't rely on them to do a perfect job. It would be so much easier on everyone if this board was just split. Look how much controversy it has generated, this kind of idea has been brewing here for a long time, but nobody wanted to say it.
>And they never belonged on the site in the first place
M-MUH SUPER SEEKRIT CLUB THATS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE MOST VISITED SITES ON THE INTERNET:((
cry harder faggot. back to \b\ with your dumbass.
Now why would it be lost in the report queue?
Is it because /v/ is one of the biggest boards on the site and insanely hard to moderate?
Of course what the delusional /vj/ fags don't realize is splitting up the board to a less populated board would never get them moderation even if there are less reports! It would be exactly the same! Just like on /a/ and /jp/! I don't go there myself, but I'm sure those places are just as bad as /v/!
Why do you think that type of shit won't be on /vj/? There isn't a single board or even site on the internet that is free of that you fucking idiot.
You aren't much better anyways, "shitposting west faggots" "Westkeks" why do you think this braindead type shitposting buzzword garbage is acceptable? Do you even read what you type and think you sound anything but laughable? inb4 you respond with another buzzword calling me a westie fag
>Then just talk about that on /v/? You sure you aren't the autistic one here?
What I'm trying to say is that you, weebfucks, are the one ruining jap games threads. I've never seen any waifushittery on the good threads about western games.
So if your kind fucks off, that will make the board better, and we could actually speak about the game.
Bull fucking shit. Go look at boards like /tg/, /jp/ and other smaller, slower boards that are more focused. They have way less shitposting.
You first, faggot. You don't belong here.
>Look at fucking /a/
Yeah they have threads about jerking off with each other through text chat and sending dick pictures to voice actors. A+ board. Maybe you should go to 8gag with the rest of the /a/ rejects.
>Just like on /a/ and /jp/! I don't go there myself, but I'm sure those places are just as bad as /v/!
It's funny because they aren't. Even if they have their own problems, they have never been as shitty as /v/ is now.
I'm not much better?
Go fuck yourself you clueless moron.
I just want threads about japanese games that don't get shitposted to hell and back. And I can't have that because westernfags think they own the goddamn place
Republic Commando is 10 years old friend. Western games are no longer anything like Republic Commando. They weren't always shit.
I have never posted any waifufaggotry at all though, and that is bannable and more easily moderated on a slower /vj/ board with different mods than /v/ mods dealing with shit like literal child porn that stays up for 15 minutes because they are so busy.
Almost every reply starting here should still be pruned and banned.
I fucking wish 4chan was still a secret club. I fucking wish normalfags never came here because they thought 4chan was a place full of pedophiles and hackers on steroid.
Everything that become mainstream turn to shit.
>I just want threads about japanese games that don't get shitposted to hell and back.
So you want your own private little snowflake board that magically has no shitposting. You're not going to get it. Nobody's going to get it.
>mods have to moderate a lot of shit
No shit? So how about hiring more mods instead of splitting boards, which will anyway require more mods?
You're some really dense fuck, you absolute moron. Be sure to cut your balls so you don't spread your cancerous genes by accident.
And your constant NO NO IT WONT HAPPEN NO bullshit isn't going to change anything, but splitting the board and seeing where it goes has more potential than anything to change this place.
>Yes but they wouldn't happen on the Japanese board so why would I care?
So you're not about improving /v/ or 4chan as a whole, you're just selfish.
I'm being a realist. If you want your own private utopia board about your singular interest and hobby and carefully selected perfect moderators, you can go to one of the other sites that allows you to make your own.
Exactly this image, and /v/ for example hates on /jp/ because they sit around and do exactly what they want and what the board is for and if you do anything against that you are told to fuck off.
Well, in /jp/'s case they will say who are you quoting over and over again until you get bored and fuck off, but still, the entire point is /v/ is a place full of way too many different faggots and unless we get rid of all the trash, which is not feasible, the only solution is to create a safe space for us and other veteran posters.
An Outer Haven. A place where people no longer shit post because of console disputes or ideologies. A place for posters to just talk about video games because it's the games they want to talk about. No consoleshit, no twitter, but a home for us.
> and the other half gets the shitposting then
Why don't you care about the other half? You've just created a board that you consider pure cancer and shitposts but you're proud of it. Why are you so proud of creating a bad board? /v/ wouldn't exist anymore either.
The feeling is mutual. It will be just like the time the KKK and the Black Panthers co-operated. We can make a better site for everyone by staying the fuck away from each other.
>>An Outer Haven. A place where people no longer shit post because of console disputes or ideologies. A place for posters to just talk about video games because it's the games they want to talk about. No consoleshit, no twitter, but a home for us.
>If you want your own private utopia board about your singular interest and hobby and carefully selected perfect moderators, you can go to one of the other sites that allows you to make your own.
>A board with no shitpost
How fucking new are you?
And you're the one calling others "normies" and tell them to go to "facebook"?
Good thing your kind ends its life sooner or later.
>You've just created a board that you consider pure cancer and shitposts but you're proud of it. Why are you so proud of creating a bad board?
Ask moot what he was thinking when he made [s4s]
So how else do you propose we fix /v/? I don't see any better options and the site isn't getting any smaller. Containment boards are already a thing and /v/ is one of them. Some people here want to take what's left of good video game discussion and leave this place. Why won't you let us have that? The shitposting side of /v/ to straighten their own shit out, then they can have the rest of /v/ back.
The vast majority of /v/ has no such inclination to separate themselves based on east vs west preference, it's just you couple of faggots. There is no Great War.
>Because we won't need to suffer it.
Thanks for proving the selfishness.
That's the exact opposite of 4chan. 4chan only has a few dozen boards of compiled and congregated interests and hobbies, not like reddit or other chans which has hundreds and thousands of boards for every pet interest away from all those nasty things of the hobby they hate. And it doesn't work in the end.
These threads were better when they actually discussed proper solutions rather than the retarded split that gets pushed by this samefag nigger.
>The vast majority of /v/ has no such inclination to separate themselves based on east vs west preference, it's just you couple of faggots. There is no Great War.
Is that why we just had a 500 post /qa/ thread and then two 750 post /v/ threads, and now a 450 post thread argue about it this much? This is clearly something a lot of people want to see happen.
Of course I'm selfish.
You seem kind of dense so let me get this through your head.
I do not give a single fucking shit about the shit posting retards who ruin /v/. It's impossible to get rid of them, so just make me not have to deal with them. The entire idea of 4chan is a bunch of elitist assholes anonymously shitting on each other.
/a/ doesn't like Naruto so they don't try to accommodate narutards, they tell them all to fuck off and the mods ban it. /v/ can't do that, so create a /v/ that can. That place will be good. It will become an actual good board with self moderation like other good boards not full of normalfags on 4chan have. You are so obsessed with your idiotic idea of "saving /v/" that you fail to realize /v/ only exist as it's users. You cannot introduce any rules to make it's users not shit because they do not adhere to 4chans culture. If you even act like a person acted on this site did 7 years ago you will be told by everybody to fuck off to tumblr or reddit so they can continue shit posting and acting like newfags. There are so many of them there is nothing you can do. Any /v/ "saved" would be a /v/ saved for them. I don't give a shit about retarded 16-18 year old's who want to talk about twitter, best friends play and shit on things like FnaF. I only know what those things are because of shit posting on /v/. (Well not twitter, but the people from the post yes)
I don't and will never care about those people. I would be happy if tomorrow they all died because the sudden improvement in quality on /v/ and I would never know them anyway. Obviously that's not going to happen though, so how about getting a /v/ for non retards where we can once again be elitist assholes and prevent it from ever becoming like this shit hole again. To sacrifice would be western games. If you want a not shit place to talk about /v/ then you save that part. I'll take the loss.
A split is a more realistic solution than anything else people have said in here. I'd love for Hiro to hire more mods that actually prune real shitty ass garbage meme shitposting threads, but it just won't happen.
We do own the place, and this will only continue as time goes on. Weeb games pander to a nice market, a market which is obviously reducing on /v/.
I care very little for weeb shit, but I get that you guys need your own board if you want to survive.
You little boys can have your 'waifu a shit' threads and group masturbation sessions. It will be wonderful senpai. :^)
>Why don't I care about the other half.
That's like asking why I don't care about the quality of /pol/, /soc/ or /b/.
/pol/s entire existence is a containment board. Moot made it because deleting /new/ fucked up the other boards so he made a shit board on purpose because sometimes the only thing you can do to contain retardation is to make a cesspool of shit for them to fester. And again, why the fuck do you want me to whiteknight for retarded shitposters? If they want to wallow in shit let them, just like /soc/, /b/ and /r9k/. Let them decide among their shitty selves how to fix themselves. We already found our solution and it's to get away from these retards, so now we are asking Hiro.
>Only westfags care about e-celebs and SJWs garbage.
Then why are lots of Xenoblade X threads talking about "Sjws censoring my games"? Let me guess, false flags? Paid shills? Reptilians? or is XBX not japanese and it's fans not primarily interested in japanese games now?
>So how else do you propose we fix /v/?
Better posts and posters. You're not one of them.
>Some people here want to take what's left of good video game discussion and leave this place.
Then they can go make their own board. Everyone has their own definition of what they consider good, as well. You think there won't be schisms in /vj/ utopia of perfection? Then there'll be more and more splits over and over because of your exact same flawed selfish mentality.
>Why won't you let us have that?
Why should you split a board in two for millions of other posters who get along just fine, just because you have a revenge fantasy and petty grudges about internet bullshit?
> The shitposting side of /v/ to straighten their own shit out, then they can have the rest of /v/ back.
You are not some godly angel and all the rest are shitposting garbage. You cannot create a magical board that is "100% Goodposting" and another board which is "100% Shitposting" because there is nothing stopping the shitposters from going to you.
Do you think hobbies and interests that you don't personally like are intrinsically shitposting and bad and evil? Then you are probably a shitposter as well and judge games and people based on nothing but your own biases and previously mentioned petty grudges. You probably fall for "wow look at this weebshit" bait all the time too and go apeshit. You couldn't even handle your own board.
>If you want your own private utopia board about your singular interest and hobby and carefully selected perfect moderators, you can go to one of the other sites that allows you to make your own.
You mean like 4chan was until faggots like you ruined it because you fucking thing 4chan should be like Europe and be multicultural accepting all kinds of users?
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you implying that all of those 99 posters are agreeing on a fucking split? You're delusional, not to mention the fact that a strawpoll exists that's clearly saying 70% of the userbase disagrees with a split.
>Yes but they wouldn't happen on the Japanese board so why would I care?
You are fucking delusional. The same shit would happen in both parts, idiot.
You won't solve a problem, you'll make it double. Shitposting will be in both, console wars willbe in both, off topic shit will be in both.
Even jp vidya fans shitpost, don't even try to imply otherwise.
I just popped into /jp/ to see what it was like and I have no fucking clue what any of these threads are about besides the Onahole one. Looks like they're doing them, more power to them.
I don't see anything that looks like shitposting, but I wouldn't know what it looks like.
>We already found our solution and it's to get away from these retards, so now we are asking Hiro.
You can already get away from them by leaving the site and making your own board. You see how that plays out.
You keep insisting that the degree of shit posting and cancer is going to be exactly the same but you have no evidence to support that.
JP shitposting at it's worse usually involves sniffing, liking or some other shit like that some random disgusting body part like dirty soles or assholes. I'm more than willing to deal with that shit posting.
>Then why are lots of Xenoblade X threads talking about "Sjws censoring my games"?
It's not as much SJWs as it NoA being retarded and thinking all Nintendo games are for 6 year olds. People who bring SJWs into this are stupid. NoA has always had an history of censoring shit.
>You mean like 4chan was until
Yeah, "anime/random" is so focused and singular right
4chan boards work best when they're about a variety of different topics. There's a reason why /his/ isn't just about history but about humanities etc.
If you want selective bullshit go to reddit or the other chans.
>Better posts and posters. You're not one of them.
Good fucking luck, buddy, because /v/ gets worse posters every day here and it will not be changing.
>Then they can go make their own board.
That is precisely what we are trying to fucking do right now.
>You are not some godly angel and all the rest are shitposting garbage. You cannot create a magical board that is "100% Goodposting" and another board which is "100% Shitposting" because there is nothing stopping the shitposters from going to you.
No, but we can create boards that are 90% less shitposting on both sides, which is better than nothing, which is what you propose.
/v/ will not get better with time. Only worse.
>You mean like 4chan was until faggots like you ruined it because you fucking thing 4chan should be like Europe and be multicultural accepting all kinds of users?
/v/ is actually nothing like that though. It should be, but instead its all YOU SHOULD BE LIKING WHAT I LIKE, NOT WHAT YOU LIKE shit.