>She's in love with the legend. I was the same way once.
What did he mean by this?
>There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver bullet into a well-greased chamber.
What did he mean by this? Guys, I'm really confused.
>people like putting their dick in the same hole that shit comes out of
>not wanting to get fucked up the butt by Snake
Get a load of this shitlord.
Having another dude's sweaty balls all up in your face after the muthafucka was crawling through a desert all day.
I want to revolve his ocelot and get Bosses genetic legacy all over me...if you know what I mean.
Do you think he refers to his massive penis as an Anaconda and that's how he got the codename Snake?
Why didn't Big Boss age a single day since the coma?
Why was he still in hardy condition when Venom was all withered away despite them both having undergone exercise?
Why did Big Boss wake up like he simply took a good nap with no drastic change to his mental faculties?
How come I look at this guy and don't love him like I used to?
>How come I look at this guy and don't love him like I used to?
because we weren't playing as the man himself.
but that doesn't matter because you're big boss didurikeit :^)
That's not true. He cares about his men. He cares about Kaz, his dog, and maybe his one good son.
He has to care, or else Ocelot died in vain for the love of a man who died a long time.
>literally cannot comprehend other people having different taste from you
so this...is autism
>he was really sad about how MGSV turned out.
so was everyone else bro
except you're fucking wrong and big boss actually did nothing wrong (as much as it pains me to say it because i wanted a game where big boss "dindu nuffin"). its ZERO AND OCELOT who ordered the change on venom's face. they set up venom to take the limelight off of venom to keep big boss safe. while venom's out and building diamond dogs big boss has got nothing better to do so he goes and makes zanzibarland. venom didn't take the fall for anyone, big boss considered him an equal in fact.
i respect your
astonishingly lowstandards for "incredible"games.
I'm just saying that if women do not attract you, there is something wrong with your brain.
MG1 Snake > MGS1 Snake > all other snakes
i do like women but man quiet looks fucking awful.
>You will never have a friend who's so gay for you that he triple crosses everyone ever, gets in deep with a secret group controlling the world, clones you several times, tries to kill these clones to make them more like you and then take over a world controlling AI supercomputer system and then finally die fighting your son
That's gay. You can't make a baby with a transexual.
if quiet attracts you there's definitely something wrong with your brain.
as autistic as venom perhaps?
>Boss that puppy you brought back will start to miss you if you're gone too long, come visit him sometimes.
>No option to do so
>Train with me boss!
>The "training" is me throwing their ass around and they don't put forth any effort to fight back
>Everyone's Mother Base will be unique :^)
>They're all the fucking same
>Boss! The Battle Gear is complete!
>4 Dispatch missions ayy
>Take silly selfies with enemies in MGO :^)
>Men become demons grrrr
>Rescue a puppy, a mob of children, Quiet, Huey, and a shit ton of prisoners and targets
I mean I had some fun but damn.
>ultimate conclusion to the metal gear solid saga
MGS4 was the ultimate conclusion you idiot. V only served to connect the prequels to the first game. It served as the ultimate conclusion to the Big Boss saga. A disappointing nonsensical shitfest ends with a disappointing nonsensical shitfest.
Closeted cakeboys detected.
Because you realized Big Boss is a worthless coward who couldn't give less of a fuck about his comrades. He wakes up knowing full well who destroyed Mother Base, who killed his comrades, who stole 9 years of his life. And what does he do? Run and hide. Big Boss is garbage.
Pick related is a man worthy of respect.
quiet only looks good in concept art. that dutch horse ruined the look.
>implying you wouldn't slay that horse pussy if you had the chance
Ocelot isnt gay tho.
He is in love with the legend, not the person.
Most of us want to be a badass like Big Boss. By playing the games and praising how cool Big Boss is we are in love with the legend aswell.
Ocelot got his ass beaten by him in MGS3 and was a big fanboy of him ever since.
>tfw Big Boss will never tell you that you are pretty good
I think your bizarre fixation on horses says more about you than anyone else here buddy.
Joosten Quiet looks fine. You are seriously either gay or just 2D sexual.
It's mentioned directly in the damn tapes that Big Boss woke up LONG before Venom did, it's why he's bulkier and more fit for duty than Venom though I kind of wish after the digoxin kicked in it was mostly Venom doing the heavy lifting for the whole escape.
nah bro im fixated on how cute big boss is
Not *much* longer, if at all really. When he wakes up they tell him they won't have enough time to get Venom up to full strength so he'll have to get him out of the hospital. And Venom is semi-awake for a few weeks anyways before XOF shows up, what do you think that montage of him freaking out was?
She's fucking freakish compared to Stefanie. But I guess copying perfection is impossible anyway.
Big Boss was lounging around smoking a cigar by Ocelot and BB complaining that this is the only thing he has to whittle away the time. Remember he was in a coma just as long, but he had more muscle mass than Venom? That means he woke up at least a month before him. And the freaking out was only a week from what I remember because the whole plastic surgery happens 5 days after his second freak out while he's still drugged up.
I thought they did the plastic surgery 2 years into Venom's coma. Did I hear it wrong? I'm not sure.
He's pretty cute.
>this fuckin newcuk doesn't know /v/ loved the Joost long before /mgg/ accepted her, and in fact they were resistant at first
They mention during Venom going in and out after his phantom limb freak out, which I think the date thing said 5 days and right after being told he's in no condition for surgery, and then told people are out to kill him he blacks out again which leads into Quiet killing most of the hospital staff in the room.
Cipher. By the time the attack happens, Zero is on life support due to the parasites and Cipher is now functioning on auto-pilot to attain The Boss' Will hence why around that time SIGINT made the Patriot AIs to do all the heavy lifting for their logistics and plans.
i shouldn't have forgotten that most of /v/ was underaged horny teenagers with no semblance of taste.
>He thinks /v/ fell in love with Joost out of simply being horny
My god are you from Reddit or are you really this horrifically ignorant of something that happened just over a month ago?
I'd love to see you explain the origins of other events here like Akagi or Press X to Jason.
What do you expect from a massive failed experiment done in defiance of 4chan?
Pretty much everyone agrees with how Zero was trying to attain The Boss' Will so they basically kept doing whatever they could to help the organization that was designed and built to unify the world under a single order. Until everyone "finds out" that Cipher grew out of Zero's hands and started acting completely off the wall such as allowing XOF to actually destroy MSF and sink ZEKE to the bottom of the ocean, and continue to attack and assault the world.
the site is owned by a scam artist and its primary admin and previous owner is a coke-addicted cripple midget who spends his life getting high and sucking flip ladyboy dick
it's pretty hilarious
I wonder why Ocelot's love for Big Boss feels so genuine to me. Because we don't actually have any fucking details about their friendship.
"After I spared this kid he shot my eye out. Love him though."
How the fuck does that work. But it does. There was some stupid respect that passed between these two idiots.
It's like this, family.
Big boss wasn't actually jesus, he was a very flawed man with a lot of problems, but that was his identity and not his legend.
Venom is a better big boss because he is living his life how he thought big boss was with no idea how actually bitch made he was
And you're sure you aren't gay?
Have you actually had a real gf before?
Because Ocelot always wanted to be a cowboy and Big Boss set him on the path to his dream. Retarded, but you can see that Ocelot looked up to Big Boss because of his attitude during Operation Snake Eater and even during Peace Walker.
She was in love with Venom. it didn't matter if it was really big boss or not. in fact, he might as well have been. Venom has his memories, his face, his body, his men and his name. in every way that matters he is for all intents and purposes Big Boss. Who he was before died on that chopper, He gets a second chance at life and a chance to be the man he looked up to and idolized, even if he knows he's not the real thing, he's more than earned it, Hell, Venom did as much to create Big Boss' Legend as the man did himself
It's just weird that their relationship from our viewpoint comes from absolutely no personal interactions. Yes, Snake Eater was something but so far we've never seen them do anything that wasn't a danger fueled adrenaline rush. Yes, they formed the Patriots. But it just blows the mind that you just call up your crazy Russian buddy, and the crazy team that was involved with the mission that involved killing your mentor, and you take the actual billions of dollars stolen by the Russian to bring a dream to life.
How the fuck does that happen.
I just want a picture of the team sitting in some cluttered board room eating Chinese take-out. Something that makes it look like they actually did some administrative work instead of magic-ing what is essentially a multi-national corporation from two soldiers, a communications expert, a doctor, and an quartermaster.
>died on that chopper
Technically that life lived on when Big Boss had to go incognito and Venom was taking the heat and focus off him to make Zanzibarland. And I refuse to believe that Big Boss made Outer Heaven himself and just handed it over to Venom to run.
Keep in mind that Big Boss is forgiving to a fault. He forgives Kaz for attempting to kill him, same with Ocelot accidentally blinding him in one eye. His armies are basically full of enemy soldiers who would've killed him without mercy before, and now he takes them in and teaches all of them. This compassion is partially why many characters in MGS cherish him.
But that's wrong retard. Zero is perfectly fine before and after the attack. He's the one who orchestrated the whole coverup to keep Big Boss in hiding. It's only after he confronts Skullface about the attack that he gets stuck with the parasite pin. Big Boss is hiding from Skullfaces rogue XOF squad and the rest of the world who didn't like the fact that he had built an army and became a nuclear power who answered to nobody.
No shit dumbass, XOF went off the rails and beyond his control until he gets "attacked" later while in his NYC safehouse after seeing Big Boss while in his coma. Zero was never attacked by fucking Skullface until AFTER MSF was destroyed. The attack I was talking about was the assault on the hospital do try to keep up.
>The attack I was talking about was the assault on the hospital
And yet you said he was hiding from Cipher which isn't the case at all you fucking idiot. The rogue squad Skullface took command of was not operating under Cipher or the A.I. You're wrong no matter how you try to slice it and no amount of backpedaling can change that.
Cipher was still funding XOF somehow, or do you magically think XOF had infinite funds and access to all that info just for shits and giggles? You do realize that Cipher is NOT only Zero right? And that the end goal of Cipher is to unify the world as per The Boss' Will.
Holy shit I fucking lost it. Youre a funny guy anon.
Skullface commandeered the XOF task force which was funded and equipped by Cipher, but his actions were his own, hence the whole going rogue thing. He took the troops and gear and started working on his own agenda, unbeknownst to anybody involved with Cipher. Even the troops themselves thought they were carrying out Ciphers will, but they weren't. It was all Skullface alone. This is clearly explained in the truth tapes.
>People dont like venom's scars
Why the fuck not? Its like proof on his face of what hes gone through. Not to mention the fact that he has pieces of his comrades inside his body. When you look at a man like that, his body just tells you everything.
that's one of the reasons why I like Venom the most. he's old, depressed, miserable, in shitloads of constant pain, and every time he smiles a little is like manna from heaven. he's a worn out human being and it's great.
Everyone is shitting on you but I totally know what you mean. Girls are fucking neat.
Id rather be solid snake though. Hes so cool.
Let me clarify all of those for you folks.
>Between MGS3 and 1970 Ocelot trained under Big Boss, he learned CQC, wilderness survival skills etc, this happened while Ocelot was working for the CIA and Big Boss took a break from commanding FOXHOUND with Zero. During this time Ocelot and Big Boss find out about Ocelot's birth, and some sort of relationship goes on between them that Big Boss quickly ends. It started because Big Boss felt bad. Ocelot is beginning to see Big Boss is not like the man he met anymore.
>In 1970, they got the legacy back together (Portable OPS is as close to non-canon as possible now), Ocelot did most of the work. Big Boss gave the legacy to Zero
>The Patriots, Big Boss gives it another go with EVA and breaks up with her too. Big Boss now realizes no type of relationship interests him at all. LET happens and Big Boss and Zero go their separate ways. Ocelot tells Big Boss MSF is a bad idea, he goes through with it anyway. Ocelot is near to disgusted with him now.
>1975 Big Boss goes into his coma. Ocelot watches over him for 9 years, EVA goes to try and find David, Eli is with Zero and eventually escapes. Ocelot still loves Big Boss, EVA does too, but they realize now he'll never change. They work together from then on.
>1986-1987 Ocelot leaves DD and becomes a roaming mercenary of sorts due to the fall of the Soviet Union, he's really working for Big Boss, Ocelot kept a portion of the legacy and gives it to Big Boss to fund the Mercenary War and create the foundation for Zanzibar Land's split from the USSR
>Venom goes on to create Outer Heaven which becomes Big Boss's diversion
At this point, the man Ocelot knew is dead he needs Big Boss to play his role to stop Zero and create a power on the level of Cipher. Ocelot was in love with the legend once. Those days are long gone.
I feel like the intense admiration Ocelot felt for BB gradually (or, not so gradually) developed into a crush. after all, BB was a pretty charasmatic guy when he wasn't being an autist about guns, or doing silly shit in general. he was also insanely badass. Ocelot clearly wanted to emulate him. at some point he turned it into his own weird cowboy thing. but honestly, who cares. they're pretty
Where? It's in the game. In the novel.
It's the parts that aren't flat out told to you and you have to deduce yourself.
But it's not that hard though. Because it isn't specific there are some parts that can only be speculated on, but what I wrote is 90% probable.
Sorry pal, what I wrote is what happened, sorry your too oblivious to put it together yourself. I did you idiots a service honestly.
Let's do a test.
Please explain how Ocelot obtained his new skill set demonstrated in MGSV.
Let's see what explanation you give, and if it's wrong, I'll post a source showing it is.
Don't worry, idiocy can be worked out together!
Man you guys don't even want to take my test?
Come on you're making it too easy.
Just admit I did the research, I'm right, and walk away.
If you'd like to look into the canon and work up a more detailed explanation for all the plot holes, I'd love to chat and help fill them in with you. Though I've done most of it already.
>What I wrote happened, it really did!
>They never said it, but there were clues!
>No real source to information
>No reason why we should believe you
>Burden of proof is on us to prove you wrong
That's not how it works dumbass.
Oi, you really want me to site every single thing? The thread would be dead before I posted all of it.
How about you ask me which part you want me to prove and I'll write it out. That's a lot faster than doing the whole thing.
It can't be true because EVA and Ocelot were never disgusted by BB (except like, eating raw animals, I guess). They were both desperately in love him with him until they died.
Anon, I said pick one part, any random part of what I said.
If I went and posted every video and took screen caps of all the conversations inside the tapes I wouldn't be back for another hour and this thread would be dead.
I'm honestly saying, pick one random part of what I wrote, anything at all, and I will go get the screen caps, post and links and prove my point. But I won't waste an hour on the whole thing. I don't need to validate myself, I already know that's as accurate as it can be.
See, this post >>315371897 is legitimating asking me to explain a part of what I wrote. Do what he did.
And I'll respond to it in the next post
EVA's message to Snake. The entire point of this message was to push Snake onto a different path.
EVA sent this tape because of Snake's activity in Nicaragua. We can deduce that the "little bird" EVA mentions in the tape is most likely Ocelot due to him being the constant wealth of information for The Patriots, and later Big Boss in MGSV.
Both Ocelot and EVA are very careful with their words when trying to convince Big Boss of something.
Ocelot's prime of example of this himself is the LET tape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-IRijRCbUQ
In Ocelot's case he is trying to carefully convince BB to show some compassion to the children.
"You only see them as cells in a tube?" and that drop of "Is he dead?" and Ocelot's "probably" in hopes that would cause Big Boss to react and start a search for Eli. But it didn't.
EVA hoped that knowing what happened to The Boss would change Big Boss's mind. She even says, nervously, "I'm not trying to second guess you." It's easy to tell her entire motive of sending the tape was second guessing his actions.
Big Boss sending MSF into flames was the final straw. EVA was right and Big Boss shunned the children she loved. She laments this in MGS4 during the church scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfAHlnnOvSU
Ocelot cared for the children too, and by extension the children. At this point Ocelot knows about The Boss considering his involvement with EVA's tape. A child changed The Boss, would it change her pupil too? Very likely. Except it brought out the worst in him.
And finally, are they disgusted with his actions? Mostly, it's not hate, they still love him, its knowing nothing can be done to stop him now. He's on a war path, and what better way to use that than to create a power to rival Cipher. Listen to the report to Big Boss tapes and that's more than clear:
The tone in the tapes changes drastically here.
Another part I need to mention is, and I ran out of space, is EVA and Ocelot are Big Boss's Adam and Eve.
Because they were seduced by the Snake, ate the fruit, and were cast out of Eden, their lives changed. They became aware of the world. Both of them are the main forces against The Patriot AI, this becomes their complete focus after MGSV. Hell bent, they were determined to stop it, and in turn bring Big Boss out of his induced coma. This was planned far before Big Boss was "killed' in Zanzibar Land. MGSV is very clear in this.
They lost faith in the legend, this didn't fall out of love.
If they did, Big Boss would have never reached his epiphany at the end of MGS4. The tape Naomi left for Big Boss was a message from both EVA and Ocelot through her.
It took me nearly 20 minutes to reply to one question. When I said hour, that didn't include writing it. Between screen capping and digging up all the links it would take several hours, and I doubt you'd still be in the thread if it were alive.
Not everything is in the novel. Some though.
Yes the new ones.