Hiro wants us to talk about how to fix /v/. We've heard splitting the board, increased moderation, clarifying the rules, banning e-celeb threads, and many others
If you think he understands 4chan you're wrong.
He ran 2ch, the 300 board website full of duplicate boards so that trips could have their drama without having bump elbows with each other's egos. That's what he thinks is acceptable.
That's what he'll make here if he doesn't learn better.
6 /v/s 4 /a/s 5 /pol/s /bane/ and /bane2/ and a copy of the 200 most popular subreddits
disband /vr/ and /vp/
create a Nintendo board, this board would also count classic games that were on Nintendo consoles like Megaman and Banjo. but regular /v/ its still okay to talk about them
Can we just sticky this or something? This is the fourth or fifth iteration of this thread tonight, obviously its a hot topic and the fact that previous posts are going to be lost in the old threads and the same people from said threads are just going to keep posting the same statements in the new threads means its going to keep hitting the bump limit.
JUST DO IT HIRO
There are non-Nintendo retro games that get discussed on /vr/ too. Leaving them on /v/ would be unfair for them since they're pretty good posters. Also /vr/ talks a lot about buying old hardware or emulation, which isn't limited to Nintendo only.
We keep that around for the same reason we keep that cancerous, so bad it makes /v/ look good shithole called /tv/: Because if we got rid of it we might have to interact with these people.
>Implying /bane/ wouldn't be the best possible scenario
>go on /v/
>thread about Undertale appearing on a Christian broadcast show
>almost 400 replies
I hate this fucking board so fucking much.
This is a stupid idea. Splitting /v/ is NEVER good.
We are in such a shitty place because we're all split.
People think, for instance, that /vg/ is for video game discussion and /v/ is just a "culture" board which is incredibly stupid.
WE NEED MORE CIRCLEJERKING LIKE /vg/
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MISSING
ADD IDS AND FORCED TRIPCODES AFTER THAT, HELL JUST PUT IN AN ACCOUNT SYSTEM ALREADY!!!! FUCKERS I WANT TO BE POPULAR ON THE 4CHANS!!!!!!!!!!
Thread ID is necessary.
Consider that people who are against thread IDs are one of the following two types of people.
1.) People who just want to be deceptive, impersonate another user in the thread, samefag etc. Basically just exploiting anonymity to do something shitty.
2.) People who post an OP or post which is a perfect set up for a 'witty' comeback reply that they write themselves and then post it on r/4chan for le ebin karma. Thread IDs derails this gravy train.
bringing back /vg/ is kind of iffy
its a useful board
but generals go dead for days
and things that need generals bad get talked here for days anyways
maybe turn /vg/ just into generals so even /co/ could get cleaned
Can the new /v/ board at least be NSFW?
Why can /co/ have that but not us?
Decrease moderation on threads that do involve video games (allow Hunger Game threads, stop banning/warning people for SFW pictures of video game characters just because they're anthro, allow both husbando and waifu threads)
Increase moderation on threads that dont involve video games (threads that bait with pictures of porn stars, JAV, flavor of the month anime waifus, threads where the picture is very clearly more interesting than the text and not vidya)
Create a fucking /waifu/ board so these fuckers can be in one place to circle jerk/ERP/Image dump and all that obnoxious shit, cause fucking /a/, /c/, /h/, /vg/ etc aren't enough for these faggots and I get tired of them invading a actual discussion threads with their shit
Im torn on this, because I like how I can get into a total shitstorm of an argument with one person while simultaneously having a calm discussion with others in the same thread.
I don't think IDs are the way to go here guys, nor do I think we need to split up /v/. And of course, re-allowing dubs will just reopen another type of shitposting. All /v/ needs is hardcore moderation - the people posting "what did he mean by this," undercover porn threads, etc. just need to be fucking put down.
>Consider that people who are against thread IDs are one of the following two types of people.
Consider that you ridiculously simplify things to just make yourself look better.
I post on 4chan to be anonymous. I don't post to have an identity- of any sort. Fuck off if you want to force that upon people.
That's part of the draw back with this whole anonymous shtick, but I rather have to deal with that and keep it than using fucking IDs, if I wanted ids I would've joined Something Awful.
The notion of splitting /v/ hasn't fucking worked. It's the only board that's /b/-tier in volume (probably over /b/ some days), but unlike /b/ actually has a pretty constrained array of topics.
The rules are fine, the number of boards is fine. We just need more, and better, mods.
No. I want /vg/ to stay fucking separate. I don't want the avatarfagging funposting bullshit /dg2/ /llg/ /feg/ /codg/ "FIRST FOR A RARE PEPE" bullshit to clog the front page of /v/ for all eternity. /v/ maybe a drama and flame filled wasteland, but /vg/ is so much worse.
Move towards self-moderation. Mods should just do nothing unless the thread really doesn't involve video games at all. False flaggers are annoying, and they do it to get attention from the mods hoping to delete threads.
>allow Hunger Game threads
These don't involve video games.
They do involve characters, but it's not even about discussing the characters.
I don't even fucking understand what they are supposed to be about. RNG funny match-ups I guess, which is fucking stupid. It should go on /b/.
I actually like /lit/, but come on, /tv/ is about as low as you can get. People joke about there being one good thread per four meme/shitposting/troll threads over here, but on /tv/ most days its literally one good thread per ten BANE?/pedophiles/"What did he mean by this?"/different BANE? thread/
>even /co/ could get cleaned
I was preaching for years that /co/ should have been split into Animation and Capeshit. It wasn't until well after everyone migrated that the idea became popular.
Reinforce the rules dammit. Jesus Christ, Mods are fucking shit. Delete and permaban all e-celeb/twitter shit. Especially consolewar garbage.
/v/ should only be about social justice and pure shitposting. who even likes video games anyway?
>These don't involve video games.
>They do involve characters,
So then they DO involve video games. Their characters.
Also, they're allowed on /co/. Why can /co/ have them and not /v/? What's that about?
but anytime you say anything on 4chin it has to be the most well thought out thing eva xDD otherwise it's just a shitpost!
What you just said is the entire reason ID's are stupid. I am not going to talk like this the entire duration of this thread besides this post, but people will read it, call me a retard, and cannot judge me for anything else I say in this thread because of this post which is a fallacy humans commit not matter what. Some faggots even attempt it now with the >>(you) shit
1) So what? If you're operating under the assumption there are consistent users vising and posting in a thread, you're retarded. Every post stands on it's own. Got to Reddit if you want IDs.
2) So what? Thread IDs are easily circumvented. That's not going to stop any of the shit you described.
I'm genuinely impressed you're able to use a computer well enough to post this. Go use some other fucking website if you don't want Anonymity.
People are worried that users like you want to strip away one of the founding components of this site because you're afraid of having to take each post by its individual value.
Make a red /v/ for shitposting, porn, ecelebs, vidya "culture", etc
Keep /v/ for strictly Vidya discussion
/v/ should be about lolis instead of games
a lot of comic books have cartoons and i don't think enough people really talk about comics to justify its own board
/co/ still needs some cleansing itself though. i don't have the same fun there as i did 5 years ago
They all have only been here for 2 years after coming for reddit, it can't be helped. Lurking doesn't exist in a board like /v/ anymore and they think their word is law and because they outnumber people who actually were here they carry more weight because mods don't give a shit anymore.
Which is why I want a boardsplit.
much more heavy handed moderation. this place went to shit when the /b/tards migrated long ago and got away with posting non video game related things. Its just steadily gotten worse and worse as the population increased. Ban for all notvideogames. This includes your stupid culture wars. This includes your stupid ecelebs. Thats not video games. video games are video games.
Right but if your other posts were all just retarded shit being flung around, we'd be able to rightly point out that you are the moron in the thread, and your attempt to obfuscate yourself wouldn't work.
No my friend, you are the retard.
This has been gone over for the past two threads. If you have an identification, you are not anonymous. It's simple, but you just don't seem to comprehend this.
I think every boards should allow loli desu.
Even a temporary identity still accumulates baggage.
I don't always say the smartest shit, or maybe some anon picks a fight with me, and it's nice to be able to leave that behind and have calm discussions later in the thread.
And let's be honest. Thread ID is about as debilitating as bans. The dedicated shit posters would simply reset their routers/use phones.
Bans still are obnoxious to us VPN users though.
I don't want a /v/ where pictures of video games are banned under some incredibly vague "no furry" rule. Just rewrite it so its okay if its relevant to the topic and not porn.
You know, like EVERY OTHER POST.
> called out
THERE IT IS!
You want to "call people out" who say things you don't like. That's why you want IDs. You want to be able to pin down and ridicule the posters you don't like. You want accountability in a place based around the lack of accountability.
Get the fuck back to Reddit.
THE VIDYA AMENDMENT OF 2015
Instead of adding thread IDs, only OPs have IDs. OP IDs follow OPs through their entire /v/ life. Meaning that if an OP makes one topic and ten minutes later that same OP makes another topic, those OPs will have the same IDs and this will allow you to find out who is the OP of the same two or more threads.
One of the major consequences of IDs is that they don't actually prevent samefagging
If anything, it just gives people with dynamic IPs or mobile devices (also see: Ban Evaders) a greater advantage over other posters by starting threads, and then changing IDs so that no one calls them out on samefagging their own threads.
It's an extremely effective technique.
IDs don't provide anything other than a false sense of security. The people who are truly shitting up the board will be able to continue what they're doing, but won't be called out on it.
There are days when I want Gestapo tier moderation. When somebody posts something so stupid that you can't tell whether its bait or just extreme idiocy, I dont think anyone would mind if it was deleted. Except for the mouthbreathing child who posted it.
On boards with IDs, I can highlight any post made by that post in that thread with a single click. They are not anonymous. They have an identity.
This site is meant for people to be anonymous on. You don't strip that away. It's ridiculous.
Out of everyone in this board I can agree with. It's this.
/v/ is an imageboard where there are no exact reposts.
1. If you attempt to post something unoriginal, it is not posted, and you are muted temporarily.
2. The time with which you are muted for doubles with each transgression.
3. Each mute time is 2^n in seconds where n is the number of times you have transgressed. So, your mute time doubles each time you fuck up.
4. Backlinks, eg , are not viewed by the robot. So "lolwut" and " lolwut" are the same post, in the eyes of the robot.
5. Gibberish at the end of a post to force originality may result in mod intervention (no BLOX posts please).
6. Images areNOTincluded in the filter, only text.
7. Your mute count slowly decreases over time.
8. You cannot post a picture without text.
9. Unicode is blocked. Sorry, too many exploits (Cyrillic letters, etc).
10. Posts require a certain minimum amount of original content in order to be posted.
11. Post sane, real content, well thought out replies, and mutes are unlikely.
12. The original algorithm was designed by XKCD:
Yes but the characters aren't being discussed.
If anything it's an advertisement for the RNG website that pairs up shit.
It has NOTHING to do with video games.
It's entirely about seeing what funny results come from the RNG match-up process. That isn't video games man.
You Jap fuck, you banned my entire fucking city block! I know the irony of someone in an Allied country asking a Japanese person to refrain from using the nuclear option, but this shit is fucking ridiculous!
Tell me a good reason why I shouldn't have 2 opinions that contradict each other in one thread
You realize that might entail bans for posting anime.
That means no more Umermaro or whatever that moeshit is, that I keep seeing.
Actually that's not a bad idea. Start banning anime images.
Exactly. 500 posts til autosage is quite a bit
except for explosive drama like this. The temporary id could last for quite a bit longer. I don't wanna be hounded by funposters. I'd go to reddit for that.
We just need better mods
The one that actually deleted shit posting for once.
And let me post my fucking gamer fuel threads
Mod keep deleted because it's not vidya but it's muh vidya culture
Either let me post it on /v/ or make video game culture board
So what, those posts will never be tied to any identity beyond that thread. thread ID's will do nothing but call out samefags and shitposters. What drawback is there to ID's beyond
Oh I love how you just put words in my mouth. That's charming.
Every post should be accounted for on its individual merit. You add identification, and that goes away.
There are /countless/ places with forced accounts and usernames. This is not meant to be one of them.
You'd still be anonymous though, its not like you'd have a fucking account or be forced to use trips. It'd simply illuminate the posters who pull the "I'm just pretending to be retarded" shit in threads and allow them to be singled out and ridiculed like they deserve. If you're so worried about this, I think you might be one of them.
>le go back to reddit/other website
It's funny that this is always the reply.
I love this board. I want it to stand on it's own feet as a place where people can have a decent discussion about vidya without the thread instantly getting pushed off the front page by bullshit.
There are plenty of redditors and neofaggots here who go to those sites for their 'serious' discussion, then come here to shitpost, samefag, and basically use /v/ as their toilet when they want to blow off some steam and say shit that will get them banned elsewhere.
You're the kind of people who complain about this place being overrun with redditors, but you're basically enabling that to happen. You probably make posts about how the board is going downhill, while opposing anything that could actually clean this place up a bit.
If you want this board to just be video game themed /b/, then don't be surprised when reddit retards show up and actually treat it as such.
You guys are strawmanning so hard it's stupid.
1) I've been here since '07.
2) /b/ has thread id's, and there's still no account system on 4chan.
3) Let's talk theory here. Most people wouldn't shitpost as much if they had a thread ID, since everyone could point out that a specific person was being a shitposter and ignore their posts.
Saying thread id's are like "le Reddit" is absolutely silly. People don't want to be held accountable for shit-posting, but that's the whole reason we're talking about changing /v/, to get rid of shitposting.
Please debate this.
>Captcha doesn't stop you from spamming
actually it does. Automated spamming doesn't happen under the captcha system. Thread id doesn't prevent samefagging, it just gives samefags the benifit of having multiple IDs.
THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH /v/ RIGHT NOW
Outside of e-celeb cancer which usually gets banned right away, /v/ is better than ever.
>feels better than ever
Thead IDs and Nazi moderation will turn this place into r/gaming or some bullshit
>So what? It's just harmless fun
Too much of it clogs up the board.
I do agree though, it's fun. Keep it on /b/, the board for random things. They should have a place on 4chan, that's the place. There isn't an argument that makes sense to encourage it on /v/ as opposed to /b/.
>/co/ has them all the time. And they dont care. Nobody complains about it. And they have FUN.
Well, it doesn't make any more sense there, they should go to /b/ too, I don't care as much because I don't go on /co/ or care about it being on topic.
I don't even mind IDs. How many posters will stick to the same thread for long enough that it matters?
I don't think /v/ needs another major split.
/sjw/ shit should not be on my board.
e-celebrities and youtube personalities feel like they shit up my board frequently. This might fall under a spam/advertising rule, but idk.
The problem with these are that many of them actually play games and host gaming content, so they have just enough relevance to not be instantly deleted.
The moderation is alright, though slow at times. Our mods are surprisingly good at nuking threads that are only tangentially related to vidya
most of the time
Dubs contribute a lot of spam.
SJW threads do not belong, though gg threads do.
This is dumb. East/west is a frequent topic, not deserving of a full split.
What drawbacks does taking anonymity out of an anonymous website lead to?
Every post is meant to be taken by its individual merit. Period. You add IDs, and this is taken away.
How about a lame ass tub of whale shit culture board?
>I like this game so much for this and that reason
>I disagree for these reasons
>LOL Nintendo is for children 3DS is dead
>I disagree for these reasons
>LOL cry moar ninten kiddie
>make /celeb/ a new containment board
>bring back autoban words and phrases (nintoddlers, "what did he mean by this", that kind of stuff)
>seriously, bring back autoban
I also wonder if /v/ would benefit from its own version of /jp/. I don't know exactly what that board is like in practice, but giving all the "muh video game culture" types a place to shitpost their LOL threads and eceleb shit on would be a decent start.
There is no constitution for 4chan, if a feature gets abused, measures are taken to bring things back under control. See, captcha. See, sage becoming invisible. See IDs being implemented on other boards already. See dubs not being CENSORED on /v/.
This is all I want as well.
You can't have video game discussion without system shit flinging. It's inevitable and been around as long as they've existed. Go look at any other forum from the past 15 years.
But we can get rid of eceleb/youtube shit.
>It'd simply illuminate the posters who pull the "I'm just pretending to be retarded" shit in threads and allow them to be singled out and ridiculed like they deserve
And it all comes out. You want IDs because you want accountability on a website that prides itself on not having it.
It should not matter what a person said two hours ago on a completely different tangent, if what they are saying right now is relevant and adding to the conversation.
Yes but your logic means it gets out of hand.
>people posting other "harmless fun but offtopic stuff"
This adds up.
Just go to /b/.
You should be allowed Hunger Games threads. Not on /v/ though because video games aren't the subject, same with /co/ but again that's not my concern.
That doesn't matter. Yeah sure there's a bunch of samefags and shitposters, but that's the downside you face with anonymity. Big fucking deal.
It's not even hard to call out samefags without ID's.
thread ID's will make it easier for samefags and shitposters with multiple IPs as has been explained countless times already. You can't call out someone who's samefagging if they're abusing two IDs
the fact that you even posted that just proves that nothing you say should be taken seriously
You all don't understand. /v/ is beyond saving. Video games in general are mostly enjoyed by kids/teenagers, autistic manchildren or SJWs. Because of this, /v/ ends up being a melting pot for all three of these types of people, which leads to endless shitflinging and barely any actual discussion. As well as this, video games are pretty accessible/popular as a hobby, so the board receives a lot of traffic. Combine these two together and you end up with a board where only shitposting threads can thrive. Actual discussion threads get pushed off the catalog very quickly.
The only way to "fix" /v/ is by salvaging certain parts of the /v/ community that want to have proper discussion and give them their own board. But even when you do that, the other boards end up being slow. Even these boards don't actually fix /v/ since the retards on /v/ say "hurr I'm not going to use a containment board" and continue to shitpost here when the thread could have succeeded on a more relevant board.
Perhaps expanding /vp/ into /vnin/ will be an improvement (it will also remove some of the console wars on /v/) but ultimately the board is doomed forever.
I'd like to see ID's get added and I've been around for a long ass time now. The shit posting just keeps getting worse, if ID's will help cut some of that down I'm all for it. Its fucking ridiculous how /v/ has just become /b/
Oh hey look the western normalfags getting mad at anime again.
Anime will never be ban from /v/ so keep crying.
Yes how fucking dare I try to uphold the major point that makes people comeback to this shit hole. Fuck off, you Americans might like trading your rights for security, but I don't.
>remembering even a single 8 digit ID from a thread
>remembering more than one 8 digit ID from a thread
>keeping track of memorized IDs from post to post
>thinking this is something anyone but an absolute autist could or would do
Samefags and shitposters aren't a real problem and giving them an ID won't stop them. I'm just fucking mindboggled that you think otherwise.
Imagine a tripfag. They run around shitposting in a thread and tripfagging it up. It derails the whole thing. THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN EVERY FUCKING THREAD.
This place is shit & you're an intellectually challenged baby boy zilch. You're a waste of life. You fucking pig.
>They will never be tied to an identity beyond
Stopped reading right there. Your logic makes no sense. I can say forums are anonymous because you will never be tied to a person outside the forum. It doesn't work that way. You either are anon or you aren't.
>/b/ has ID threads
So does pol and those are two of the worst threads on 4chan. Hilarious how that works.
that's still a good thing, calling out samefagging means derailing the thread and giving them attention even further.
I say we give Thread IDs a shot, and if they don't give the expected results they get the boot. Simple as that.
If anything its the other way around, it's too big for actual moderation.
This leads to extreme consistencies in moderation, where a shitty waifu thread will be allowed one day and then just get deleted the next.
You're just being retarded now.
My point is that if they have to allow your "just for fun" thread, then they have to do it with other off-topic but just for fun threads.
THEN WE ARRIVE AT A PLACE WHERE IT'S CLOGGING.
This isn't slippery slope, it's a direct consequence of what you're suggesting.
How about this.
Argue why this shouldn't be on /b/.
Lame retards regurgitating the same lame bullshit over & over again isn't fun for anyone that isn't a braindead faggot to have to sift through.
Well believe it or not I like off-topic thread on /v/
I like be able to talked about what ever eat drink or what tv show they watch while playing games.
And all these threads aren't allowed on /v/ because it's not vidya
So either allowed them or make >>315354440
And if you are only allowed to talk about video games. Might as well deleted /v/ and only keep /vg/
/v/ is fine.
Hiro needs to ban generals on /tv/ and /sp/.
I'd love to see all dr who and GoT general posters get permabanned.
/sp/ is fucking dead too, pre-2013 it was GOAT and now its literally nothing but generals and tripfags. No board culture at all.
>My point is that if they have to allow your "just for fun" thread, then they have to do it with other off-topic but just for fun threads.
I literally just called you out for slippery slope and you just did it again.
>This isn't slippery slope, it's a direct consequence of what you're suggesting.
It's slippery slope if it's based on pure conjecture and not actual reality.
Thread IDs for three or so months, see how it went, remove them if /v/ got worse
There's really not much else we could even try. Making new boards wouldn't help because /v/ would still be /v/ (see all the previous new boards), removing /v/ entirely and splitting it into different console boards wouldn't solve anything either because shitposters gonna shitpost regardless. The only new board that perhaps wouldn't be so bad would be /v2/, even if only to mitigate the traffic.
Better moderation would of course be good but that can't simply be willed to happen.
>So does pol and those are two of the worst threads on 4chan. Hilarious how that works.
/v/ is considered one of the worst boards on 4chan as well. Give us thread id's, it'll solve problems easy.
I think nationality based shitposting is probably the one thing that could actually make the board worse and would basically be the final nail in the coffin.
>calling out samefagging means derailing the thread
So then IDs are fucking pointless since
There is literally no benifit to thread ID, "giving it a shot" makes no sense since this board can't come to a consensus on anything and if they're removed a bunch of people will be crying about it anyway
Sure, if it's a one off post, but most of us post hundreds of times a day. Are you telling me "PLmD_69pXpk" doesn't mean anything to you? It's a random string of shit, but if you've been here long or seen the video enough, that you can ID what it is. Same thing with tripfags who change their name, but keep the tripcode. Eventually you remember the tripcode, whether you want to or not.
Please don't fall for the ID meme Hiro.
DON'T DO IT
>will split more to /sony/, /ms/, /shill/ etc if more retards cry
splitting the board is dumb, go back to living in the cave if you easily triggered by troll and shills
or maybe you can go back to reddit where you will feel safe posting your shit taste while everybody enjoy sucking your dick
Yeah and giving it ID's will move it away from the direction of /b/ because /b/ has no ID's so it's a great board!
If they don't break the rules then no, they not ought to anything. That's the entire point of this site. You can have your shitty stupid borderline retard opinion and as long as you follow the rules you are allowed to say whatever you want. If you want something curated to your specific taste find a forum with ID's that moderates people based off "retardation."
A way to filter people that aren't tripfags in a thread.
Should a person get filtered an arbitrary but relatively high number of times in one thread, flag it for the mods to ban or not ban.
You can literally, right now, highlight every post made by a person by clicking their ID.
You don't have to memorize anything, you can, with a single click, verify extremely easily, everything they've said.
This is not a good thing.
>splitting it into different console boards wouldn't solve anything either because shitposters gonna shitpost regardles
The same logic applies to Thread IDs. In fact there's no reason why you shouldn't introduce more board splits for /v/ for three months over Thread IDs for three months. I mean why not try it to see how it goes?
disable posting on /v/, have a single thread consisting of nothing but this picture
Every thread will be fresh with every user having equal validity of ideas. If you start shitposting and samefagging in the thread, obviously you will be called out on it. The only people who would suffer from this are shitposters.
You can get around it sure, but adding an obstacle to shitposting is better than doing nothing at all. It WILL deter some people, not all people but some, and getting something good without any drawbacks seems like a fine idea to me.
Make an actual argument you dumb fuck
It's still a deterrent and better than doing nothing. The problems you bring up exist now, with no solution. The ID's would help, not solve, but help resolve the issue. It's a step in the right direction with no drawbacks
>Samefags and shitposters aren't a real problem
Dumbest thing I've read all thread
>too stupid to differentiate between thread ID's and forum registrations
If you want pure shitposting threads you can take it to /b/. It has no place here.
You are welcome to enjoy whatever you wish, but you need to learn to do so in the appropriate places.
I've never participated, but I was in an early one enough to know what happens there.
What do you have against it being on /b/?
I'm not asking the site to ban it, I'm asking it to go where it belongs, /b/ - random.
It should go there from /co/ too but I don't really care about that.
>"4chan was literally created as a place for people to act like retards and talk about gooktoons. It's not some serious fucking business vidoe game website. 4chan is not srs bsns you fucking faggot "
Right so basically just completely admitting to what I said?
You use another site for your 'serious' discussion and then come here purely to shitpost. You are the lowest common denominator moron who sees anonymity and just thinks 'hey I can use this to act like a retard'
Shame for those of us who think /v/ sometimes creates the best vidya discussion on the internet, but are despairing that you have to wade through ever increasing amounts of crap to find it.
/a/ itself became NSFW.
Due to their self-moderation, hardly anyone there ever reports porn in the first place, and now it's basically all but allowed if its under spoilers, but the select few who didn't come to /a/ for porn got yelled at.
>Flags ruining /pol/
The only people who hate flags are people from meme countries.
If you're from Sweden and acting like a huge cluck you're rightfully going to get called out for it.
If there's enough quality in your posts people will usually let it go.
>I also wonder if /v/ would benefit from its own version of /jp/
This. Remember back when moot made a thing about primary, secondary, and tertiary topics? Make /v/ only primary, /v2/ secondary, and ban tertiary from both. /v/ gets the chemo it desperately needs and everyone who wants to talk about shit like pic related still can.
Allow e-celebs to be discussed in /vg/ or something. /v/ really loves them. Back when gamegrumps were semi-relevant the shilling was pretty hardcore. Now we just have to deal with the occasional giantbomb/totalbiscuit/ whoever the flavor of the month conversation topic is.
both are not okay fag
>what grill would you fug! :DD
>Oh my nintendo grills are soo hot
>I wanna fugg Rise
how can you defend that? is beyond cringe and is more /vg/ than /v/.
>Banning console war threads when Sony is winning
You're giving an unrealistic example. As it stands, a shitposter does not pop into a thread to make one shitty post, and then leave to return hours later to contribute to the discussion. He spams the thread with shit until it dies.
Damn son that image must be old af. Also jacking it to a new misao right now.
>The same logic applies to Thread IDs.
It does, but makes it less effective as opposed to more effective with split boards. Introducing hugbox boards and thinking people will be safe from console wars that way is the height of naivete.
/vb/ is all we need
With it all the shit poster can shit post all they want and all muh board culture will be saved at the same time.
And no fun allowed leddits can stay on their /v/
I already got /vg/ for my actual vidya discussion.
No it shouldn't, because those video game characters aren't the focus or the discussion.
It's about that RNG website. I mean we could run around this all day though, there isn't much more point in this conversation.
Wouldn't "fix" it, just like it hasn't "fixed" /r9k/, but it would eliminate some of the shitposting.
>If there's enough quality in your posts people will usually let it go
I do agree with that, and it does work for countries like Aus (me) or Sweden, but it does not, not ever, work for India. I feel sorry for those guys.
>Every thread will be fresh with every user having equal validity of ideas. If you start shitposting and samefagging in the thread, obviously you will be called out on it. The only people who would suffer from this are shitposters.
So you reduce anonymity to just that on a thread by thread basis. This site becomes basically any individual forum when posting in a thread.
No. Part of what makes this site good is that every post has to be treated on its own merits.
It'd be nice to get some mods that actually browse /v/ 24/7 like a lot of people (myself included) do. The board needs a good crackdown by a few mods that make themselves present and known.
way to out yourself as fresh off the train from /b/ and likely underage. 4chan was never serious but it also wasn't a kiddie sandbox for shit flingers like you to entertain your short attention span. There has always been a purpose for these boards and it can be read at the top of the page VIDEO GAMES. not RANDOM.
Make these boards for a testing period.
If it doesn't work, remove them.
Simple as that.
You're a dumb faggot. Splitting the board is necessary because of the amount of traffic /v/ gets. It's nearly unmoderatable because of the speed of shitposting requires a bunch of moderators and janitors to be watching over the board 24/7.
/v/ has beene slowly, very slowly, getting better. What it needs now is thread IDs so that shitposters and dumbass faggots can get called out on it.
It's either that or turn /v/ into Videogames - Random and start slapping some other boards where you can get quality discussions going beyond e-celeb cancer. And if you do that, bring back dubs because why the fuck not. I would recommend a board for indie games, update /vr/ to include the sixth generation (because the PS2 is fucking 15 years old, it's 'retro' now) and maybe something for consoles and pcs but we all know that would just fuel inter-board shitposting.
sweden needs to realize their country is shit. they're sissies who just turn to escapism because they can't deal with bad words
at least americans have the indecency to know how bad shit is but not care what others think regardless
It's a video game. So you want to ban people just for talking about games you don't like?
>is beyond cringe
They are just expressing their liking for a video game character. Do you hate video game characters that much?
There's nothing else to talk about those games.
It'd be easier to lay out some concrete rules about waifu and husbando and "I wanna lick ____'s toes!" type posts than try to censor all of it.
We just need a /youtube/ board. It would help other boards too.
Well anon, you sure are providing some real hard data on that.
It doesn't matter. The only reason to add IDs is to give this site a "call out" system. "Hey look, you said then, and then you said this!"
It goes against what this site is intended for. If you see someone shitposting, just report. If there are problems on that end, then it's a matter of moderation, not the anonymity of this site.
e-celeb is a loose term. Explain it better. LPs and Twitter drama? Yes, i consider that e-celeb shit. Linking a review or an opinion? That's not e-celeb in my book.
e-celeb board can make moderation even more difficult, unless we all agree on what youtube shit is fine and what is not. Hard.
You're not losing anything. Everyone will continue to not know who the fuck you are.
You know what? This is the only real argument I've heard so far and I'm actually considering it. I don't think the hit to "posts being judged on their own merit" will take a hit anywhere near as much as you are implying, if at all, but I can't deny that it's possible. It's worth the risk in my opinion.
>splitting the board even further
>becoming like the other chan where everyone sticks to their own boards, threads in each board get less exposure, and they all slow down to a crawl
Then you can literally go to another site. Literally. They all have what you want. Why did you pick the one site on the internet where this wasn't present then cry about it and try to change it? You can quite literally go to any other site that isn't a shitty rip off of this site made out of anger and get what you want so fuck off.
>THREAD IDs TO PREVENT SAMEFAGGING
Nah you just broke it
We don't need separate console and PC boards.
We don't need separate Xbox and Playstation boards.
We don't need separate Western and Japanese boards.
We don't need separate indie and AAA boards.
We don't need a separate Nintendo board.
WE NEED MODS TO CRACK DOWN ON PEOPLE POSTING NOT VIDYA
Sometimes they are allowed. But not always, which goes back to what was said in >>315355647
The main reason they get shitted up is because of people like >>315356797
And Im too afraid to even report them. I don't trust the mods to just ban him and then leave the rest of the thread alone. And I'm usually right.
As jewish as this may sound,
make it so one can only post by paying a small fee of $0.01 or something just once on specific boards. Really, that would filter out heaps of underage b& and faggots who need access to their mommy's card who shouldn't be posting here in the first place.
Alternatively, just ban anything not vidya and/or just asking for a derailment like >>315356843 >>315356715 and more.
>"Waaah Waaah Pls split /v/ further, my consloe got insulted one time :("
Fuck off back to whatever shithole site you came from
/v/ got really slow with the /vg/ and /vr/ splits.
Oh wait it didn't and it won't because the majority of faggots just stay here. Give us our niche nip board. It's like /v/'s /jp/. The creation of jp did not kill /a/ just like the creation of /vj/ will not kill /v/.
>i wanna fug that character =/= talking about THE VIDEOGAME
They are talking about a character in that video game, though. Video game characters are video game related. What's so hard to understand about that?
>fucking ERP autist
What the fuck does ERP have to do with any of this? I enjoy the characters themselves, not the neckbeards pretending to be those characters.
Tell me a single board that has improved from IDs.
There is no good reason to support IDs when they've never done any board any good, ever.
/pol/ is still garbage. /b/ never improved with them. What's the fucking point of them? It's like communism, "good on paper", worthless in execution.
>Things are better than they've been in years.
Other sites dont have thread wide IDs.
And I want to change it because I want a better /v/.
IDs are a part of /pol/ now. The place improved a lot.
I'm really happy that t.b.h s.m.h and f.a.m
have been replaced with desu baka senpai
>Threads where anons want to play with another anons
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>The shit posting just keeps getting worse, if ID's will help cut some of that down I'm all for it. Its fucking ridiculous how /v/ has just become /b/
Last I checked /b/ had IDs.
IDs just encourages circle jerks and echo chambers. Some people here thinks that a different opinion is equal to shitposting. IDs would remove any discussion. This place would be worse.
I don't feel /v/ can be improved much beyond the userbase's general mentality, so maybe elements that facilitate undesirable behaviours should be removed or changed. I don't think the board needs to be split. e-celebs should just be contained in /vg/ as each general keeps to itself anyway. Clarifying the rules sounds like the way to go. For example: console/PC wars are conducive to shitposting, so threads with those themes should be against the rules.