Old thread is autosaging. Hiro wants us to discuss the future of /v/
In the last thread an idea was proposed that some seemed to like:
Basically, you would divide /v/ into /v/ and /v2/ for primary and secondary video game topics.
/v/ - video games
/v2/ - gamer culture, ecelebs, gamerfuel, LOL threads, etc
What do you think?
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We don't need separate console and PC boards.
We don't need separate Xbox and Playstation boards.
We don't need separate Western and Japanese boards.
We don't need separate indie and AAA boards.
We don't need a separate Nintendo board.
WE NEED MODS TO CRACK DOWN ON PEOPLE POSTING NOT VIDYA
Waifushit and thinly-veiled porn threads about vidya characters should also be considered not vidya.
>In the past year, mods have actually started deleting Chris-Chan threads
>You can express more than one opinion in a thread.
Not when they contradict each other for the sole purpose of riling up shitposting. Stop with this ridiculous made up scenarios of yours. If you're so worried about bullies then IDs means samefagging bullies will easily exposed for shitposting. Again, you yourself said that each post should be judged by itself, if somebody bullies someone with no argument then you're OWN FUCKING PREMISE doesn't work
Reposting from last thread
A lot of /v/ would be better if /vr/ was merge back with /v/, although I like /vr/ so that would kind of kill my fun. Mods also need to set their priorities straight, what was one of the reasons that killed /v/ culture was mods not setting their priorities straight and deleting at random with no rhyme or reason. They focus too much on off topic threads such as gamer fuel threads but on topic shitposting usually gets a pass as well as numerous twitter threads. Off topic isn't inherently a bad thing because it creates board identity and was why /v/ was so great back in the day because of how not policed it was. Everything else is in the community itself's hands.
Also when is /vr/ going to be allowed discussion on 6th gen? It's been more than 10 years since these consoles were released.
>Not when they contradict each other for the sole purpose of riling up shitposting
And what if they don't? At that point I'm already pissed and I'll attack you anyway because of my personal grudge. That's how derailing and shitposting happens.
This so fucking much, this is the true main problem.
Even with heavier moderation, IDs or splits, /v/ will never truly improve if the community itself can't fucking quality control.
Nobody has self-control here, people just think "lol who cares I have a life, yolo" and just spew whatever dumbshit they want because they'll know it'll get replies.
You've got dumbasses replying to obvious trollbait even if they're clearly aware that it's bait, totally missing the point of not FUCKING FEEDING TROLLS.
I doubt anyone here even bothers with the report button. Maybe /v/'s just too big for its own good.
I don't like e-celeb stuff, but there's a growing hole for stuff like web content that probably should be filled.
Youtube is kind of filled by /tv/ to some extent, but it's not well liked. Where though does stuff like podcasts go?
Can Hiro just fucking make whole other chan dedicated to just /v/ topics?
Because if we are going to have more specific boards over videogames we might as well have some sort of VidyaChan.
>And what if they don't?
What about it? Then the person will have two opinions. So what.
>At that point I'm already pissed and I'll attack you anyway because of my personal grudge
Seems like you have some growing up to do. Maybe you should learn to not take things personal. You are after all anonymous
>ease up on deleting SFW anthro posts
Literally hang yourself. If anything they should crack down more on borderline porn. An image that's clearly meant to titillate but stops just before showing nipples or something should be deleted with the same prejudice as full-on porn.
For fuck's sakes. Just give literally every board it's own /vg/ and things would be better for 4chan all around. As for /v/ itself?
>Can no longer discuss older games because /vr/
>Can no longer discuss Pokemon because /vp/
>Can no longer discuss games with multiple threads without people shitposting about /vg/
>Threads about video games are flooded with shitposting
>Therefore people interested in video games migrate to talking about things related to video games, like Let's Play shit, Speedruns, etc
>Those get shitposted too
>All that's left is console wars retardation and off-topic spam
>People wonder why /v/ is so shit
/ev/ - Eastern Games; Only pertains to games made in Eastern countries. No eceleb or /v/-tier threads, just discussion, news, and speculation.
/wv/ - Western Games. Same as /ev/, but for the west. (This could possibly just be /v/, but whatever).
/v/ would then be a containment board for shitposters and mememasters.
NO MORE SHITPOSTING
and more mods
seriously /v/ was never this bad
before this board would say stupid shit , people would complain some asshat will say "/v/ was never this bad" and other asshats will reply "/v/ was always this bad" but for the first time I truly feel like this board has gone too far in shitposting
I want my shitposting to be funny , subtle not guaranteed replies and fucking memeposting x10
>/v2/ - gamer culture, ecelebs, gamerfuel, LOL threads, etc
I think it needs to be...
>/vgb/ (video games random) - ecelebs and gaming culture bullshit
>/vgo/ (video games opinion) - editorial bait typically brought to you by the cancer known as Polygon/Kotaku. Feminist shit. etc
the glorious days of xbot, nintendrone and sonynogger
the real way to fuck with it would've been a wordfilter that swapped the console names out, to really emphasize the lulz
/v2/ is the best idea so far, it addresses the biggest divide that's between the users who want to actually discuss video games and the users who want to discuss stuff that's not quite video games but doesn't really belong anywhere else but /b/.
It's not even splitting /v/ by a "theme" that may or may not come and go like generals and Pokemon are.
If that fails, /v2/ could simply reduce the excess traffic for the individual boards while providing basically the same content.
Good enough. Try it and nuke it if it's shit.
>Make a board called /vc/
>Video game culture
>Turns into /b/ 3.0, with less porn
Long story short, shitposter containment board
>What about it? Then the person will have two opinions. So what.
Read the rest of my post.
>Seems like you have some growing up to do
I wasn't referring to myself. It was an imaginary, hypothetical scenario.
The shitposting boils down to /v/ being anonymous, right?
ID Threads give you an ID for that single thread, and now you have an attachment to that shitposting. Human nature tells us that shitposting will decrease.
The board is just too fucking big. That's the root of every problem with /v/. It needs to be divided but I have no idea how.
I think there's a certain point in size, a kind of critical mass of usernumbers where any board basically just becomes a themed version of /b/. The same thing would happen to /lit/ or /ck/ if they had /v/'s numbers.
It's basically just a vicious circle now which is never going to get any better.
>the board is garabage and decent discussion threads sink like a stone
>people have to do ever more dumb shit to make their thread noticeable and populated, whether that's a certain type of image, or attaching it to GG/e-celeb shit, or basically just making it platform war bait
>this just feeds back into making the board worse.
You would need stronger moderation and more of it. /v/ needs a 24/7 janitor and mod team that's basically the size of the rest of the site's ones put together. The fact that you can have some porno BLACKED shit getting like 100 replies before it's deleted suggests it's just not fast enough and the mods are just swamped with a tidal wave of shit.
Basically the board needs to be radically shrunk, or it's just going to get worse and worse. Splitting is probably the best way of doing this. Hopefully by sending e-celeb and console war shit onto it's own board, but I have no idea how you would theme that specifically.
the fuck happened? are most of the people on here fucking complete pussies now a days or something?
just fucking ignore shit you dont like and self moderate everything else like shit.
why are so many faggs wanting to create some sort of fagity hugbox for?
More mods leads to more inconsistent moderation because a lot of the rules are up to interpretation which leads to more bitching which leads to a lot of people having to get their jollies by shitposting.
I say leave it self-moderation unless it's truly not video games, like not even a little bit.
so /v/ will stay /v/ and neo-/v/ gets a containment board?
sounds like a shit idea hiroshima, just step up the moderation and ban faggots that spam and post non-vidya on /v/.
e-celebs are just people with youtube accounts who talk about vidya, so they wouldn't be welcome. take that shit back to /b/ with all the other 12 year olds obsessed with pewdiepie and reddit drama.
There is no reason for this. Most people like some eastern and some western vidya and the only reason you'd want to separate them is if you're one of the shit-stirrers who only likes one and gets triggered by seeing people discuss things you don't like, regardless of whether they're on topic.
I swear to god,
stop saying stupid shit like "make a /vc/ - vidya culture" board.
or "ban PC/PS4 fanboys"
Jesus fuck. Ask for something like allowing spoilered-NSFW content
A /celeb/ containment board is absolutely needed to resurrect /hr/ from it's ashes. That little gem of a board got totally overrun by refugee shitposters when /tv/ laid the smack down on waifu shitposting.
/v2/ would be stupid.
a Nintendo board that includes games that were on a Nintendo console would easily clean some traffic in /v/. maybe get rid of /vr/ and /vp/ since they would be somewhat redundant
a Japanese game and Western game board could be good ideas, but the japanese board would end up just as a waifu board
>This is what gaffers and redditors that just got here actually believe
Nah fuck you. Waifu threads are sacred. Being Japanese, I hope Hiro understands the sanctity of waifu.
What needs to be banned are blatant shitflinging OPs "stop playing vidya and have a life", console war bullshit, pepe and /tv/ memes. The latter needs to be fucking site-wide. Hell, just cut out the middleman and kill /tv/ for good. Nothing but a cesspool of shitposting and legitimate pedos, not just lolicons but actual pedos.
/s4s/ and /sp/ can follow suit.
When will you tards realize that /v/ is the vidya containment board on 4chan?
/v/ is for shitposting about video games. It's sad but true. moot saved vidya discussions by giving us 3 other vidya boards.
Reposting with some tweaks - we could have sanctioned shitposting generals. Like make a sticky announcing that it's allowed to have a specified thread just for one common shitposting topic. A designated console war thread, designated anti nintendo/sony/MS threads. Designated console vs PC thread etc.
This is what it seems like fucking half of /v/ comes here to talk about all day long, so, if we can contain those people into their own shitboxes (which would inevitably attract the people who want to seek out the haters and whiteknight [game/console/genre]), then hopefully they'd at least somewhat cancel each other out from leaking into half of all the threads on /v/ 24/7.
Maybe that's about the best we can do short of splitting the board more (which is a terrible idea for many reasons). IDs wouldn't solve jack shit imo; if you are talking to someone who is really fucking opposed to you in some way, he's still going to be just as vicious whether he knows it's still you or someone very similar-sounding to you.
Don't know about you guys, but I think this is the biggest cancer on /v/. Endlessly trying to define what should and shouldn't be talked about. It's almost like everything you don't like is shitposting? Wow.
Just like DRM, if people want to shitpost, they will. They will even get around IDs.
IDs only stifle regular users, and make it so individual posts are not judged by their own merits.
eceleb shis is plaguing /v/, /tv/ and /mu/. We need to be able to define what is eceleb shit before any action can happen. For /mu/ are shills and twitter drama. For /v/ is twitter drama, shills and let's players. For /tv/ i have no clue.
Linking reviews for instance should be allowed. LPs echo chambers should not.
>people always complain about shitposts
>yet they always take the bait
That entire problem would go away if you just ignore the shitposters
Yes, split and fracture /v/ even more, that will work.
Also adding IDs to everything when the entire reason you post on 4chan to begin with is for anonymity is beyond stupid.
11 years I've posted here, Not for much longer it seems.
This isn't something we can fix really, and since that's the same way to get around bans on 4chan, I don't think it much matters to the mods/admins.
So do we re-do banning as well?
And let shitposting threads forever clutter the board and let genuine good threads die with 5 replies? Fuck that. Most of you neo-/v/ faggots don't even use the catalog so all you see is the frontpage
No, I'm scared of people who don't understand what this site was intended for, coming in and wanting to change it be more similar to the thousand other websites out there that have IDs.
I agree all on everything except my memes. Don't fuck with our memes god damnit it puts me in a good mood and makes me laugh, fuck debating video games with you faggots all the time. I want to have fun and just shiptost sometimes l
>WE NEED IDS!!!
...so the mods can ban samefagging!
>WE NEED BOARD SPLITS!!!
...so the mods can ban offtopic threads!
>WE NEED MORE RULES AGAINST SHITPOSTING AND BAD THREADS!!!
...so the mods can ban the rulebreakers!
Do you know how big /v/ is
There will always be someone who takes the bait.
And if no one takes the bait, said shitposter can just samefag his own bait and create an illusion as if someone fell for the bait.
HOW ABOUT ENFORCING THE "NO SHITPOSTING" RULE HARDER? And banning faggots that respond to obvious bait?
I still vote for complete purge.
Give us oblivion, Hiro.
>getting rid of LOL threads
Over my dead body.
>Often, not always.
And that's fine
You saying they don't curtail anything doesn't make it true. You believe one thing and I believe another. That's why an actual trial period would prove one of us right.
>Ask for something like allowing spoilered-NSFW content
But borderline-NSFW content is one of /v/'s biggest problems after e-celebs. Encouraging it is just encouraging the problem and turns this into a porn board instead of a VIDEO GAMES board.
What if we have two "spoiler" options? One for actual spoilers, and one as a NSFW spoiler? That'd make /v/ a red AND blue board, pretty much.
>tfw /v/ is the first purple board
They can, but that doesnt mean they all will.
Some obviously will.
But if you reset your IP you also lose access to your old ID, so you cant even pick up on people who respond to your old shitposts.
Most "problems" on /v/ would go away if people ignored shit they didn't like, but that's too much to ask for the autists on this board. Instead they get mad that people are talking about shit they don't like, bump those threads to post limit, and then they go and make threads like this.
The thing is, banning someone, and someone avoiding banning, is a problem that is rooted on an individual basis. That person did something, and they need to be put in a corner for a bit. If they somehow get around that, that's a whole extra hassle.
Punishing the entire userbase though for a rather nebulous "crime" of samefagging is ridiculous. Especially when people who really want to, will just get around it.
The very nature of /pol/ gathers racially and culturally intolerant people into one place from across the world and then gives them a forum to throw shit at each other. I don't think anything could "help" /pol/. /v/ on the other hand is about videogames. A much tamer topic then global politics.
>IDs don't affect anonymity.
They remove anonymity form every thread you post in.
Cross-thread don't even matter since nobody pays attention to posts from other threads even without IDs.
Every single thread you post in, you will be rounded up and judged as a person.
>CAN'T HANDLE THE BANTER? #SWAG #MAD #TRIGGERED
>JUST IGNORE IT LOL
/v/ is the absolute shittiest board on 4chan and obviously something should be done, the only people who deny it are here to keep /v/ shitty. Filters and ignoring shit doesn't mean much when you're forced to hide 3/4ths of threads because they're retardation, and the few threads that aren't autohidden are also filled with shitposting. Some of us want to talk about video games and some of us aren't here for the next epic TORtanic or something. We can't do that if 80% of the content is to be sifted through to find something worth replying to.
>IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS VIDEO GAMES GO TO REDDIT/NEOGAF/GAMEFAQS
/v/ is the board for video games if we can't talk about vidya peacefully then why is this fucking board even here, it's gotten to the point that retarded mini-modders are actively shitposting in threads semi-related to vidya by calling it "autism" or "e-celeb shit." Well damn, maybe if we could talk about video games without some kind of console war every time, there wouldn't be so many of those.
"IGNORE IT" stops working when literally everything is on fire guys
>making a board for ecelebs
Shitposting can't be stopped, so maybe instead make an official stance/attempt to contain it without splitting the board. If that doesn't work maybe something more drastic is inevitable, but let's not split the board or put on IDs before trying some attempt at self-containing the shit into little outhouse threads.
/v/ needs designated shitting streets.
Ok, be honest.
Who here actually LIKES talking about e-celebs here on /v/?
Easy just make video game culture board
Now all the eceleb threads will be there
And all LOL daily does battle station file name thread will also be there
basically a off-topic but still loosely related to vidya board.
This way my gamer fuel will be save too.
>"IGNORE IT" stops working when literally everything is on fire guys
well it's working for me
ARE YOU HERE HIROYUKI?
GIVE US A SIGN
We may as well be arguing for nothing.
I depends of every case.
>lel pii u xdd
that's a shitpost
>my wiiu is collecting dust
For both cases, people get riled up in an instant. Have you never stated something here and got called a shitposter just for disenting? This site is not a hugbox. Posting here is a privilege.
>/v/ has the best videogame discussion on the internet from time to time
>the amount of shit you have to swim through to find it is just getting higher and higher each year
I don't want to believe this image is true, but it is.
Because of it, people are always trying to squeeze out whatever lewdposting they can. What's considered NSFW and furry is always changing, and people are always trying to get their fun porn discussion.
1. Lay down some ground rules for husbando and waifu threads
or 2. Make an /av/ and ban that type of posting altogether. Including
>tfw X girl will never sit on your face
Can we ban Morrigan ERP poster?
He doesn't talk about Morrigan at all, he just talks about other people's penises nonstop.
Because there's not always mods around to do so. But if you can identify the shitposter you can more easily report/ignore the shitposter. I am also for more mods, but I don't see why both measures can't be employed.
You're a literal retard if you think separating boards by platform is a good idea. I'm going to assume if you actually enjoy video games, then you're an idort. Nobody fucking wants to have 4 different boards to browse and it'll split everyone too thin.
/nin/ - Nintendo
/ps/ - Playstation
/xb/ - Xbox
/pc/ - PC
/in/ - Indie Games
/vc/ - Video Game Culture
/ec/ - E-Celebrities
/vbiz/ - Video Game Business (since /biz/ did nothing to clean up sales/stock/marketing discussion)
/wv/ - Western Vidya
/ev/ - Eastern Vidya
Why not just have a board for everything? One reason I liked the concept behind Aether. The boards were specific enough where it wasn't just 20 different groups all battling within the too big and vague board. I mean the only good boards on 4chan were always the smaller ones anyways cause you could actually have focused discussion.
THROUGH DICK, UNITY
THE ANSWER IS NOT TO TIGHTEN MODERATION BUT TO MELLOW EVERYONE OUT WITH NSFW CONTENT
WE NEED MORE TITS AND ASS. AND LOLIS.
Don't separate the board again. And I swear to
fucking god if you put ids on this board I will make 30 shit threads a day. I will fuck up and derail every thread. I will become shitpost incarnate and burn the board to the ground
Not a new idea at all, it's been thrown around for ages but clearly moot wasn't going to let it be implemented for whatever reason
It was even suggested recently with regards to /a/ but the situation defused without it and now they're just using regular spoilers
Mods have been cracking down on ecelebs pretty decently lately. They don't 100% kill them 24/7 but they do a good enough job to remove them as a major focus of the board.
The board still sucks shit without eceleb garbage. There are just so many layers of why /v/ is shitty, that it's rather amazing.
4chan is a website based around being anonymous. If you take that away, you are taking away one of the inherent things that brings people to this site. I would certainly say that's a punishment in my book. It's telling the users you can't handle this.
I think /v/ is alright for the most part. Needs some self-moderation and maybe a couple extra pages if anything.
e-celeb shit is lame and if not for /v/ I wouldn't even know their names..
I read one cool blog about how some random korean faggot kid eats dinner and streams it, and has a million followers or something, because it's a bunch of lonely faggots closed up in their tube hotels who are pretending to have a real friend by watching a stream.
that's what e-celeb shit is. a lonely younger generation pretending that they have friends via social media.
e-celeb shit is fake and gay. sadly it's also part of what newkids are nowadays.
This is really the best option. Stricter moderation for threads and replies spammed on the hour with the same picture and/or text would cut down on actual shills, shitposters and falseflagging in one scoop. If shitposters have to work a little harder then this place might actually be like it was 8 years ago. Nobody likes to admit it, but a mild level of shitposting is kind of the tradition around here and inspires most of the original content (or at least what little we get nowadays). Splitting the boards won't end consolewars, but it might ruin what made this board popular to begin with.
We need better mods to ban the following ON SIGHT
>console wars, this is already a fucking rule but it is NEVER fucking enforced at all
>"what did he mean by this" "suddenly /v/ hates this what gives" and other maymay phrases
>"is there a game where I can play x" but the thread is really about the picture that OP is posting
get rid of all this shit and /v/ will be good again
DEPORT THE FAGGOTS ONCE AND FOR ALL
And you still can't seem to comprehend that having an identity, even on a thread by thread basis, is still not being anonymous.
I'm starting to wonder if people like you are ESL.
Opening the floodgates to porn posters wont help.
Thats a thing moot was right about. If you allow porn it will mutate into a porn dump most of the time.
/v/ would definitely fall victim to it, as there's tons of NSFW content for videogames.
/pol/ and /b/ (consider them the same at this point) are different due to their nature.
/b/ is the original shitposting central, and /pol/ is a Politics board on a completely anonymous website that shares a demographic with /b/.
I could be wrong about that though. Still, it wouldn't hurt.
>/v/ is the first purple board
It's so pants-on head retarded it just might work
Every single idea in this thread is retarded
I seriously hope that all these threads accomplish is showing Hiro that he shouldn't take a single piece of advice or suggestion from this shithole seriously.
>"my wife's boyfriend" thread
>goes into autosage
>"what is she thinking?" thread
>goes into autosage
>"name a SINGLE good game on [platform] protip you can't" thread
>goes into autosage
>blatant /pol/posting threads
>goes into autosage
>and inevitably the "WHY WON'T MODS DELETE THESE THREADS ALREADY" threads
>deleted before 10 posts
That is the worst fucking idea I have ever heard. End of story.
The main problem on /v/ is that nobody knows what the fuck it's even supposed to be anymore, and that makes it incredibly hard to moderate. IMO the mods should be more proactive in removing threads devoted entirely to shitposting and should start throwing around short-term bans for chronic shitposters more often. Posting a copypasta intended solely to rile up console wars should be an instant 1-3 day ban.
I'm not saying we should have the mods go full /a/ (fuck those guys seriously) but tighter enforcement of "no shitposting" and IDs to negate samefagging would do wonders.
Also e-celeb bullshit should be sent to /vg/ unless the people and events actually have a tangible connection to games. I.e. a thread about Kojima joining another development house would be acceptable, a thread about PewDiePie getting glaucoma would not.
splitting the board would only make things worse and make each one a circlejerk combination of NeoGAF and /vg/
So there's no shitposters on /pol/. Why do you guys want /v/ to be like /pol/ so much? is that your ideal board?
is there any actual EVIDENCE that IDs has helped any board the way you're all preaching it's some cure-all healer?
>A much tamer topic then global politics.
That explains all the shitposting and constant rage and anger.
Why should every post I make in a thread be tied to a single identity? What if I want to post about different things or write in different ways or post different kinds of images, or just talk about things, without it always permanently in every thread being grouped together? If I'm not shitposting, why should I be punished that way and my anonymity removed? it doesn't matter if it's only thread specific because every post on 4chan is always thread specific, there's nowhere you'd be able to get away from it.
LIKE I GIVE A SHIT, YOU FLAMING HOMO
No its because we discuss video game happenings and stuff but then we discuss absolutely everything and board culture and fun is also very entertaining. Don't be a retard a lot of people here are regulars and we obviously talk about other shit besides video games.
Faggots like you are just mad their favorite game gets called shit so you demand stricter mods so you can have a hugbox
>there's too much ironic shitposting on all the boards!
>I know, I'll make a board dedicated to ironic shitposting! I'll also make absolutely no fucking attempt to stop this shitposting from seeping into other boards!
>This will definitely fix the shitposting problem!
I also want:
/2600/ - Atari 2600
/arc/ - Arcade
/ra/ - Racing games
/spg/ - Sport games
/mv/ - Mobile games
/shw/ - Shovelware
/shg/ - Shilling
/cw/ - Console wars
/dsp/ - DarkSydePhil worship
/mfg/ - My favorite game
I honestly think a good portion of /v/irgins like discussing this shit, seeing there's always at least half a dozen threads up at any time.
>pic of random e-celeb
And there you go, +750 posts thread.
We split /v/ into 3rds:
/vpc/ - /v/: PC. No Console faggotry allowed. Cell Phone/Tablet "games" go here as well.
/vcs/ - /v/: Consoles. No PC faggotry allowed. Baby's 1st Handheld goes here as well (until they're Retro).
/v/ - /v/: Shit Dump. Image dumps, shit posting, anything that's Gaming Retardation but not PC/Console-specific goes here. Including anything that goes GamerGate.
Oh my friend I know how IDs work, and that doesn't matter. You are still taking away anonymity from a site that prides itself on allowing anonymous posting.
It doesn't matter if it's on a site wide basis. It doesn't matter if it's on a thread wide basis. It's still uprooted one of the core components of this site to punish a select few individuals for a supposed wrong doing of "samefagging".
>Why should every post I make in a thread be tied to a single identity? What if I want to post about different things or write in different ways or post different kinds of images, or just talk about things, without it always permanently in every thread being grouped together?
Thread IDs allow this...
>If you allow porn it will mutate into a porn dump most of the time.
Who here remembers /gif/ before it was overrun with porn and had an occasional gore thread?
There used to be a nice mix...like 10 years ago. Then it just turned into porn porn porn everywhere.
I know right? I don't think /v/ could survive.
As a serious suggestion, I think a second /vr/ board would be nice. You get people trying to push the limits on /vr/ further to allow shit like PS2 and GBA, and I'm against that, but I do see why they would want that, since it's about as difficult to discuss those consoles on a board as fast as this as it is to discuss /vr/ games. I'm not sure exactly what the limits should be, but something that can discuss 6th and 7th Gen consoles would be nice without stepping over /vr/'s boundaries (remember the shitposting that happened when the Dreamcast got banned and then unbanned).
>/pol/ and /b/ (consider them the same at this point) are different due to their nature.
>/b/ is the original shitposting central, and /pol/ is a Politics board on a completely anonymous website that shares a demographic with /b/.
>I could be wrong about that though. Still, it wouldn't hurt.
So if it didn't help /b/, and it didn't help /pol/, why would it help /v/? /v/ is also shitpost central.
And there's still no proof that thread IDs has ever actually improved a board. "oh it didn't work there because of reasons", same shit people say about communism and russia and everywhere else it's ever been done
>Do you seriously think we want to discuss video games on /v/?
Kill yourself retard. If you want to discuss random things that aren't video games, we have a board for that. /v/ should be for fucking video games
>REMOVE E-CELEB CANCER
REMOVE E-CELEB CANCER
>REMOVE E-CELEB CANCER
My idea for changes?
Move all video-game discussion to /vg/ and keep all the culture bullshit to a general thread.
Kills 2 birds with one stone; /vg/ now has enough traffic and new blood to avoid circlejerks and extraneous videogame-related subjects are kept under control.
They'd become little hugbox-fortresses and still hate the shit out of each other. The key answer as to why such splits wouldn't work is that as long as /v/ itself is still around, the users from all those separate boards will still see each other here probably almost daily, and still clash all the same.
/v/ itself would just get even more cross-meta (aka worse) if there was little if any reason to have actual discussion on a console or any game on it outside of its designated board.
They're not but if their bitching is heard out this place will really be ruined and a bore fest. Literally every board has shitposting and memes outside of actual discussion you guys are fucking idiots
I guess, but I think I just like the smaller more focused boards like /lit/ are the best. Everything moves too fast on /v/. And slower threads that are trying to illicit serious discussion are always moved to page 15 in mere minutes while bait threads skyrocket to page 1 500 posts instantly. You know like Kotaku articles versus well written serious discourse about video games.
No I'm one of those "faggots" that wants every post to be considered on its own merits, rather than this site become some regular forum, even if it's just on a thread-wise basis.
That's not why this site was made, that's not its intended purpose. There are countless sites where you can have an identity, this is not meant to be one of them.
Well, because that isn't a problem? also people would get rid of samefagging claims when being called out. They're not asking your name and your SSN, just a simple counter-shitposting measure.
I don't give a fuck. I browse more than one board to know internet drama is polluting the site. I don't go to LPs threads to spam reaction images and shit. But still, those kind of threads are not vidya. Those threads are about the people playing those games and their lives.
>Why dont you have a vita yet
>vitaposters swarming every 3DS thread spamming "just buy a vita"
>I LOVE MY VITA faggotposting
>every vita thread devolves into weebshit waifuposting
>constant posting of that utterly pathetic list of games, asif it makes the vita any better.
stick to the vg, its a circlejerk you want, and in vg, you'll get it
I am all for thread ID's and /vc/-videogame culture. I agree that youtubers and e celeb threads don't belong here, but I also feel like they have no real place to post that shit right now. And every once in a while I want to browse a LOL thread or a speedrunner autist thread without seeing it 404 50 posts in.
I've seen these posted before
Split it into something like /vb/ for /v/ with banter, and /vc/ for civilized conversaton. However way you do it I think these concepts are a good idea for whoever wants to use either board
/vg/ was OK, but I fail to realize why /vp/ was necessary. I remember that at the time it was made the new pokemon games were coming out, and it was flooding /v/, but making a permanent board for it was the wrong choice. /vp/ is now basically /fur/:pokemon edition with ultra circlejerk. The time to delete /vp/ has now passed though since it's made a degenerate community that as soon as it's gone is going to flood /v/, and it is going to be absolutely horrible, even if they start their own general.
Fun can be had with offtopic stuff we have and even game specific tangent discussion some games create. What we have now is just false flagging and shitposting and nigga senpai shit. I rather have a containment board for all these retards and leave /v/ for actual game discussion.
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> IMO the mods should be more proactive in removing threads devoted entirely to shitposting and should start throwing around short-term bans for chronic shitposters more often.
Another idea that just goes down to more mods banning things
>Thread IDs allow this...
No, thread IDs remove it.
Being able to post without a single hardlocked named and coded identity within a thread is just as bad as having to have one within a board or the site.
/v/ and /v2/ seems like the best idea so far, since you remove Waifu posting, E celeb shit, gamer culture stuff from /v/ in one go, without removing it from 4chan. Hell, throw in vidya porn on /v2/ as well
Ass is already sort of allowed as it is. Sometimes. It's not very consistent.
If people can get used to dicks, they'll get used to anything. /v/ will be at true peace. Dicks will save /v/.
No you're a moron if you actually think we want to discuss only video games. Yes we all like games and we play them a lot but I don't want to always have a serious discussion about them that is so retarded. Honeslty just fuck off to reddit or gamefaqs or wherever you came from. >>315361180
>wordfilter the word weeb to something japanese to piss off nippon haters on /v/
>allow NSFW vidya screenshots -screenshots from h-games, basically what /a/ got but applied to vidya games
> /v2/ might not be a bad idea, would allow more niche discussion and non shitposting - attention grabbing OPs to have a chance at discussion and the like
>if /v2/ is made ban any generals threads from /v/ to allow for even more niche threads, but allow them in /v2/ I guess
>do something about the interracial porn spam on /v/ at late night hours, the "Find a flaw" threads and the like, the shitposters who do the real nigga hours shit and everything else
>wordfilter more shit to prevent shitposting- like weeb
Look at the new fag and laugh.
It's become cancerous, shitposting, meta discussion, trolling.
>baka desu senpai
>Sonyggers, PClards, Nintoddlers, Xbots.
It's impossible to have discussion without the culture fagging it up. Want to talk about MGS? Incomplete gamefags show up. Want to talk about Fallout 4? Reused assets and Todd-spammers show up. Want to talk about Witcher 3? Graphics whores pop in. Want to talk about undertale? Furfag and indieshit haters show up.
It's the same fucking thing over and over again. /v/'s culture has become toxic. Before now, at least babby and daily dose stuck to their own shitposting threads.
>also people would get rid of samefagging claims when being called out
Instead we'll just replace claims of samefagging with people knowing you're a samefag. It's the same shit, but now we're just a regular forum.
>They're not asking your name and your SSN, just a simple counter-shitposting measure
I don't fucking care, this site is not meant to have IDs. It's the primary draw.
>That's not why this site was made, that's not its intended purpose.
This site was made so some goons could talk about animes without having to pay 10bux. That was the intended purpose.
The only obvious answer is splitting it into PC and consoles.
The animeposting is pretty much all done by console weebshits and shitposting in videogames for consoles threads is 100% done by autistic mustards.
>Would you divide /v/ into /v/ and /v2/
>/v/ - video games
>/v2/ - gamer culture, ecelebs, gamerfuel, LOL threads, etc
While I do like the sound of another containment board, it won't stop the issue to begin with. If we start to fragment our boards in an attempt to deal with each new problem that comes our way, we're going to become a slightly more anonymous Reddit. I don't think anyone here wants that to happen.
Only goes so far, anon. I sage, hide and report shit when necessary, but that only does so much. Really, we just need a clearer enforcement of the rules and more moderation. We should be good from there.
>If it becomes standard it wont be special anymore
on a board that has run literally every meme in existence into the ground and beyond, there is nothing on this board that would stop being "special"
Board culture changes with the people on it, this board has had several huge population shifts in the past year alone. It will change and not always to your liking.
The broader "videogame culture" does not exist the way media and advertising would tell you otherwise. Its a broad range of subcultures, many diametrically different from one another, joined by a similar medium.
It'd the usual bullshit but now more annoying because people thought they were done having to deal with it.
>lol the xbone version of game can only manage 30fps haha what piece of shit! You still glad you wasted your money on a Ps4 faggots?kek. >grin.jpg etc.
If you think the claims been making are shitposts I'd love to see the ones that you think aren't.
And no, they won't be judged off of their own merits, because every single post will have an ID that tracks who said what, even if it's just for that thread.
THE CAPTCHA WON'T BE THE ONE FUCKING YOU IN THE ASS EITHER
This site is going to get IDs no matter what because VPNs and mobile networks are basically making impossible to keep people fucking banned.
Making /v/ a nsfw board would be neat.
Maybe have the same rules that apply to /b/ with guro shit being allowed here(we see worse in mortal kombat) to scare away all the normies.
So, instead of having many, many posts going
>you're a samefag
>no im not
>yes you are
>look here's some (you)s
>you just shopped those
>no i didnt
>yes you did
we could get
>oh i guess it is that person
>just a simple counter-shitposting measure.
Why would it stop shitposting? Where's all the shitposting it stops on /pol/? You're saying it does these things but you have no evidence of it. All you want is a "HEY YOU'RE SHITPOSTING, REPORT REPORT FUCK YOU!!!" like that means fucking anything when mods barely exist either way. And you're now punishing the 90% of /v/ that doesn't shitpost by dragging them all down and slapping an ID on them for every unique thread they post in.
it's taking too much away while giving virtually no benefit.
>all these replies not even getting the reference
If you don't want to discuss vidya, then why not go to:
No one's forcing you stay on one board.
What differentiates /v2/ in this idea from /b/? I think /v/'s rules should be updated (no ecelebs) and actually enforced (console wars are against the rules but mods don't do anything about it). People who want to shitpost can go to /b/, and get over the fact that it has a reputation for being nothing but normie teenagers. If they want to shitpost with /b/ tier threads, they need to go to /b/, and not get their own board.
Why are people against creating a board like /celeb/?
Or instead of splitting the board again for a 3rd time we just prune topics specifically about ecelebs. As disgusting as I think they are streams and reviews about video games are fine, but actual shit about them that will spiral into drama should just be deleted on the spot.
Like seriously if you want every board split into a million pieces than go to reddit. This isn't your usual, if you don't like it go to reddit comment. I actually mean go there and see how much shit sucks when topics are limited to a singular subject rather than a broad topic. Original content is able to flourish here when given broad topics. I wouldn't want that limited any more than it already is.
>You know, IDs have been in use for ever and you don't see people complaining about it
I am complaining about it right now. I don't think they're right. I don't come here to have an identity.
Though I do appreciate your ad hom, it's really making your side of the argument sparkle. You claim you're against shitposting?
Oh fuck off I see plenty of threads where shitposting is ignored and people discuss a game. It happens every day but people only want to talk about it for so long. There is literally nothing wrong with Todd posting
I like this idea
I want to talk about video games and if the topics turn to something else like anime or food or moths or whatever, that's cool
But people can fuck off with all of the shitposting threads, eceleb threads, console war threads, LOL threads etc
The board would be a million times better without that garbage
There are alread several generals dedicated to broad genres of games. ie: hentai games, grand strategy, sims, non-popular MOBAGE games, etc.
There is literally nothing wrong with /v/.
Simply delete /vr/ and /vg/ so they come back here and ease up on the moderation.
>You know, IDs have been in use for ever
In shit holes like /pol/, /b/ and /soc/ which have not improved at all since their addition.
Shit if you've been using any of those or /b/ past 2007 regularly, you are clearly part of the problem.
You fucking can't stop shit posting you nigger faggot, it will happen regardless due to the nature of chan board. Anybody could shitpost regardless of the rules or how many vidya boards you have.
When has a board split ever been a good thing?
Like it or not, Hiro can't fix /v/. /v/ has to fix itself (if it needs fixing). It's not like the shitposters here care about the rules, anyway. Console wars are banned, too, and look at where that's gotten us.
1. Replace all mods and janitors on /v/. They have done a terrible job. They all need to be removed. They are a sad remenant of Moot's incompetent leadership.
2. End all posting from proxies and mobile devices.
3. User IDs on all posts to stop same fagging.
4. Instant week long bans for console wars.
5. A ban on all sales talk. That stuff belongs on /biz/.
6. More word filters for words like "shill" etc
7. A separate containment board for sony fanboys.
GET THEM TO DO PUBLIC BANNINGS. JUST SHAME THE SHITHEADS THAT DARE TO FUCK UP THIS BOARD RATHER THAN DO IT IN STEALTH-MODE.
GET THE MODS TO ACTUALLY INTERACT WITH ANONS HOLY SHIT.
Ah so your argument is that "it's inevitable"? Boy well I'm sorry, but no. I am firmly against taking away anonymity on a site that has a core draw of having anonymity.
Well if we do spilt /v/ and /v2/
/v/ will only have on topic threads which can be something like
Some games no body heard
Console exclusive games
And /v2/ will be
Everything else that isn't about vidya
But still kinda related to it.
Btw I don't like the name /v2/ can someone think of a more charming board name?
and ban kids posting "stop liking what I dont like".
What happened to showing "USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST"? Haven't seen that for years, even in recent events.
/vg/ is still necessary, although some faggots still think they can get away with generals on /v/.
I'd like to see /vr/ brought back into the fold just to watch all those faggots cry or circlejerk in /vg/.
I think 40 year old women tier gossip should not be tolerated on any board.
>splitting /v/ the third time will surely make it about video games this time around
I want to post my pony reaction images again. I hope moon Moot allows ponies. Than he would be miles better than that Jewish gay c.u.c.k. ever was even though I hate the Japanese and everything related to them.
I'm sick of this middle ground where /v/ only sometimes allow lewd posting depending on the mood of individual mods. Either go to one side or the other. Say what types or waifu and husbando threads are allowed and say which aren't.
>Simply delete /vr/ and /vg/ so they come back here and ease up on the moderation.
/vr/ doesn't want to come back, AND THE WHOLE REASON /vg/ EXISTS IN THE FIRST PLACE was because people ON /v/ were complaining about generals.
I like having more than just weeb fapbait.
If it's videogame related, why not have the option? There are plenty of reasons to have a NSFW spoiler option other than to dump porn pictures.
I've also found some of the best porn ever on /v/. Just saying.
This is the least shitty idea that's come up yet, but it's still worse than what we have.
I think /v's problems are greatly exaggerated by people who want it to be something it's not.
There's no need to ban "culture" from anywhere, unless you fags really think that secondary bullshit = culture. Video games in /v/, video game related stuff in /v2/. There can be a bit of overlap too.
>split board up
THERE THE BOARD IS FIXED...WAIT FUCK ITS SHIT AGAIN!!!
>split board up another time
THERE THE BOARD IS FIX-...OH FUCK ITS SHIT AGAIN!!!
>split board up a third time
THERE THE BOARD IS....OH FUCK ITS SHIT AGAIN!!!
Clearly the answer is to SPLIT IT AGAIN!!!
lol what? Are you ok anon? I hope you didn't have a stroke.
Several people in these past threads have outright looked forward to the idea of "calling out" others for samefagging. It's a power trip. They want accountability, and it frustrating to them because this site is based around every individual remark having to stand on its own.
Samefagging is not such a big issue that we need to take this away.
It's just needless fragmentation. Even /vg/ was nothing more than an overreaction to several generals that flooded /v/ and could've been solved without the need to make a new board. We've already got /vr/, /vg/ and /vp/ and boards designed to help make /v/ better and let's face it, none of them have made /v/ better.
In the end you're going to end up with 2 versions of /v/ that act exactly the same, but with the users of each board constantly shitting on each other for being worse than each other.
>More easily to report idiots
Again, it always comes down to 'more mods and jans!" that don't exist. Thread IDs do fucking nothing, mods and jans do.
if you're reporting shitposts, they'll be able to see the IPs themselves. You don't need to.
That's just how I reply to idiots. You don't come to have an identity, but if it's necessary, it must be made. You faggots bitch about not having anonimity but then you shit on every thread for the sake of board culture or whatever, when some people actually want to have a decent discussion.
Either IDs and filters and autobans, or just filters and autobans.
Just ban all talk of Sony products and /v/ will be just fine.
The alternative would be keep it the way it is, which is shit.
I dont think more moderation will help honestly; its not that we dont have enough mods and janitors, its that they're so fucking inconsistent that the rules dont matter at all. What is "video-game related culture" that isn't off-topic garbage?
>/v2/ - gamer culture, ecelebs, gamerfuel, LOL threads, etc
God no. The only thing that makes those threads any good is discussing them specifically with /v/, not some shit offshoot of /v/. Look at /vg/, virtually all of it is shit because it's filled with nothing but /v/ rejects.
I'd much rather all of those things be banned outright then try to put them on another board.
I don't want 6th-gen on /vr/ because that alone would bring a ton of shitposting. Go back to the first days of /vr/, there wasn't any specific date at first but mods had to add a limit because of "what's your favorite retro game? Mine's Halo." 6th Gen introduced Halo and CoD, which are "modern" games in the eyes of a ton of people and they alone would fill up a ton of threads on the catalog.
But a board for the GC/PS2/XBox/GBA/Wii/PS3/360/DS/PSP and computer games up to some point (not sure what would be a good line for computer games since there's shit like TF2 that was released in the mid-2000s but still gets updates) would fill a large-ish niche without causing too much shitposting about what is or isn't retro. Maybe move the Dreamcast there after the board is made just because it's technically 6th Gen.
It wouldn't really be a split when /v2/ would consist mostly of threads that get deleted from /v/ in the first place if a mod notices. It would just give them a legitimate destination.
/vg/ is 99% shitposting and circlejerks. /vr/ isn't really a "split," since retro game discussion isn't banned on /v/ now. It's more like /v/'s equivalent of /m/, in that sense.