Forget about board splitting. There's only one way to improve this board for everyone: an anonymous filtering solution. Here's my proposal:
When you manually hide three posts from the same IP, that poster becomes permanently filtered for you _after an hour_, and apart from the current thread.
Thus there is no way of abusing it to point out samefags in any given thread, and no way of identifying any anonymous users, while enabling everyone to curate and improve their individual /v/ experience.
If you have multiple anons filtered, it is impossible to discern between them. You can only clear the entire filter, and only once per day.
If someone quotes a filtered user, the quote link will allow you to read the filtered person's post, with the caveat that the post number is displayed as [FILTERED] for you. In this way the readability of threads is preserved.
You could export a randomly-ordered hash to sync between multiple devices if you don't only use one IP / cookie set.
Plenty of refinements could be made, but in general, by enabling us to control what we see individually on here, we could ensure a higher subjective quality standard for everyone.
Here's how you fix /v/ and 4chan as a whole. Mandatory trip codes making people responsible for the shit they say.
>fuck you mah anonymity is more precious than the board!
>fuck off reddit!
And this is why /v/ will just continue to get worse and worse every year.
I'm sure people will disagree but per thread IDs are really needed. I'm pretty sure 90% of shitposting is the same guy over and over again in every thread and that certain would help combat it without removing anonymity boardwide.
Get mods that don't suck dick and replace them with people that actually do their fucking jobs and don't play favorites. There was fucking Soul Caliber thread with porn as an OP yesterday and that shit stayed up for hours while other threads were being moderated and deleted. It's just stupid when moderation plays favorite so blatantly.
That would imply /v/'s current low quality was a result of this lack of trips. Get fucked since plenty of other boards are fine with it.
Go to reddit if you want shit like that
Yeah that really stops the furfags who treat /v/ like that already
It would help if mods didnt have double standards.
You cant delete sex related threads and then keep thinly veiled porn threads alive. You cant delete furbait threads, but keep monster girl threads alive. You cant delete shit posting threads, but keep ones spreading false information.
Either it all goes or none of it does. They cant expect the quality of this board to be above sub-par if they are selective about what trash gets to stay.
I think /v/ is perfect right now. A few years ago this place was a complete mess. Constant off-topic garbage. You're literally taking this board's quality for granted. It used to be so much worse. Now, it's pretty decent now.
I think you mean the kissless virgins who make hourly thinly veiled porn threads of every conceivable game out there.
That one furfag makes like one daily thread that's quickly deleted, meanwhile the other shit sits on the board for hours on end.
Start going by hardware/MAC IDs or a combo of them then. Good luck changing that.
Or just start banning ranges after the first blatant ban evasion.
Bare minimum that needs to be done is make mobile browsing read-only. Mobile posters can no longer post from mobile due to extreme ban evasion abuse.
I'm sure that EPIC shitpost you wrote can wait until you home or get off the can.
Spoofing a mac address is entirely possible.
Plenty of programs do it, and its not complicated in the slightest.
My 15 year old self used to have a program to use as a lag switch on Xbox that could do it.
4chan is not a safe space. These subhuman retards who whine about being triggered by opinions they don't like should get the fuck out to reddit, tumblr or whatever place else.
- There is NOT supposed to be a sticky. You should lurk the fuck more and fit in.
- There are NOT supposed to be multiple boards. In a time where the vast majority of games are multiplatform titles this makes absolutely NO sense and the only purpose is to "protect" bootybothered faggots from opposing opinions in regards to where the game runs best.
- There is NOT meant to be any anonymous filtering. If you don't like someone's opinion you'll have to learn how to deal with it. We're not fucking tumblr.
>if you don't like someone's opinion
Bruh I'm not exactly "for" what the OP is suggesting but you've got a lot of nerve thinking more than 15% of posts are genuine at this point.
50% shitposters and 35% marketers.
People who whine about the quality of /v/ haven't been here between 2010 - 2013.
The board has massively improved since then and the people whining about wanting separate boards for separate platforms are without doubt tumblrfags who can't handle the banter.
>mobile IPs shared by users, literally blocking posts from innocent users
>implying this stops from people posting what you don't want to read
You and all the filter types are nothing but fucking pussies.
Board splitting is also the dumbest shit. We don't need a Nintendo or Sony board.
We just need a good army of competent mods who actually play video games and are not sjw c u cks.
There's nothing wrong with this board until people forget that /vg/ exists and we get 90 threads a day discussing the same game.
Also eceleb shit pertaining to YouTube and not video games should be removed. Basically cuc k worshipping should be removed because "lmao ____'s last video was soon funny" is not video games.
This has always been the case on 4chan and it's the same thing on any other place on the internet, except that there shitposting is usually wrapped within passive-aggressiveness and you can't even tell the people to fuck off and die due to some stupid netiquette rules, making the debates rather tiresome and utterly boring with people trying to say "fuck yourself" in lots of words instead of simply getting it out. On 4chan you can challenge peoples views. If there's a marketer, confront him with the fact that the product is shit. If there's someone who says something you believe is stupid, tell him so - and if you want to actually contribute you add to your post why you believe it's stupid and suddenly an actual discussion starts.
Just realize this place cannot be saved since we've long past the point of no return. I think we should atleast be allowed to post cute girls since that makes everything less shitty.
/v/ just needs its rules enforced and some lines drawn
e-celebs are not vidya, for example, they should not be permitted.
Threadbans need to be brought back, if you only mildly punish the OP of a shit thread with 300+ replies, you aren't teaching anyone to follow the rules, only that 299 people can share another off-topic experience and continue to seek that kind of elation here. Threadbans would solve many of /v/'s ailments.
I also like the boards attitude and tolerance level which is why I still hang around after seven years but to say that v was "always" full of marketers is a lie. To say that it was always "full" of shitposter is a lie.
Marketers is a recent addition. Maybe 2013. Shitposters have risen to an all time high and I have no idea the cause behind that one.
The "average" v user has changed with the huge influx of newfags not only to the website but to the hobby of videogames. I fear the problems are rooted in there and there will be no saving 4chan. It will purely be marketers marketing to shitposters and all actual videogame discussion will die.
You mean like it was done to /a/ and /jp/ back in 2007?
You're a retard if you think that this was a good idea. It was a bad idea then it's a bad idea now. Only people who don't spend a lot of time here think that taking content out of a board is a good idea. The shitposting won't vanish.
Not to mention that in the context of /v/ it makes absolutely no sense. Most games these days are multiplatform titles. What are console gamers supposed to talk about? The one or two exclusive titles they have left? You can't run a board on nothing.
>Shitposters have risen to an all time high and I have no idea the cause behind that one.
The passing of several summers and underaged kids playing video games like gta v or batman and coming here to meme from facebook/reddit.
Notice how little frog posting there is now that fall classes are in full swing and how abused it was during the summer.
The summer meme is true and it is real.
I have been here before those boards were around. I've been browsing 4chan since 2005.
Stickies aren't necessary. They give people a wrong impression of what 4chan is about. They give people the false idea that they could gain vital information from a bunch of notes in a sticky and that they didn't have to lurk any more - that it was okay to be new. 4chan isn't that welcoming of a place though - especially not /v/. You're not supposed to just come in here, you're supposed to lurk the fuck more and become familiar with the board. Find out things on your own instead of being handed everything.
>by enabling us to control what we see individually on here, we could ensure a higher subjective quality standard for everyone
Go back to plebbit, cucкold
>The board was much worse in 2010 - 2013
Newfag redditor spotted
How would you deal with post quoting then you bellend. Or discussion.
And whats to stop people from filtering, highlighting all the posts and posting which posts they've filtered. User IDs or bust, its the only way.
>If someone quotes a filtered user, the quote link will allow you to read the filtered person's post, with the caveat that the post number is displayed as [FILTERED] for you. In this way the readability of threads is preserved.
That's stupid as fuck because a big problem with shitposters is the people fucking replying to them you idiot. This solves nothing.
Yes, /v/ was utter shit. Because it was filled with pizza threads. If you think /v/ was good back then, then you're likely a shitposting moron. Only after moot cracked down on "/v/ culture" the board could improve again.
>implying these people weren't there back then too
And the whole "/v/ culture" shit appealed to them because normalfags don't actually like video games. Discussing feels and pizza tips on the other hand is right down their alley.
A board that seriously discusses video games is not interesting to normies.
If you want to improve /v/, discuss fucking vidya.
So marketer newfag or revisionist then?
Non vidya "culture" threads are still rampant and they're the least of this boards problems.
If I made a "favorite multiplayer maps" thread right the fuck now it would get 10 replies, 3 images, and burn. This is because there's no room for such a thread when marketers need to market the latest and greatest. When brand warriors need to defend "their" side.
>Non vidya "culture" threads are still rampant and they're the least of this boards problems.
No, they were much worse back then. And they were a big problem. They're not a big problem now - but back then they were.
>If I made a "favorite multiplayer maps" thread right the fuck now it would get 10 replies, 3 images, and burn.
Probably because all the people playing the types of multiplayer games where one would have a favourite map are stuck on /vg/ in some shitty general.
>This is because there's no room for such a thread when marketers need to market the latest and greatest. When brand warriors need to defend "their" side.
I think the whole marketer thing is blown out of proportion - it's an issue, but it's more of an issue on "nicer" platforms like reddit, where people can't be told to fuck off and where newly announced games aren't torn to shreds. Hype works much better there. Brand warriors are more of an issue - but these are generally an issue in video gaming. They existed on the usenet already when people were discussing SNES vs GENESIS. They've existed since the very beginning of /v/ and before. And they will exist in the future. Whether it's Nintendo vs Sony or ATI vs NVIDIA, etc.
In general, I simply don't see it as that much of an issue. If a newly announced game looks like shit I post that it looks like shit. If it's a marketer posting or not doesn't matter to me. He has to defend his point of view all the same. And either he can beat me in the argument through facts and reasoning or he can't.
/v/ isn't that bad right now. It has been much worse at certain points in history. However, at ALL times people are under the impression that /v/ is the worst right now. This isn't any different on /a/ either.
Refer to >>315378621.
I don't think it would improve /v/ but I wouldn't be completely opposed to the idea to introducing IDs just to give it a try. Better than splitting the boards and creating safe spaces for idiots or some stupid sticky that does nothing and isn't read.
>Refer to >>315378621(You)
I read it and its stil revisionist history. /v/ has been split to the point where its only used as a containment board while the real discussion happens in /vg/ and /vr/, which have their own problems with hugboxing.
/v/ is a place to shitpost and argue about things you don't really care about. Wanting to "improve their individual /v/ experience" is fucking retarded since we already have /vg/ for actual video game discussion. The whole point of /v/ is a video game themed /b/.
the only needed measure is banning posting from phones.
we already do it for Tor there's no reason phones gets a special treatment it's the same thing.
blocking some specific IP like EA,Sony, or Valve headcarters would do wonder, too.
>I don't think it would improve /v/ but I wouldn't be completely opposed to the idea to introducing IDs just to give it a try. Better than splitting the boards and creating safe spaces for idiots or some stupid sticky that does nothing and isn't read.
It would cut down samefagging, shilling, dogpiling, etc. Every post has to matter as opposed to throwing 10 shitposts in to a thread, lest you get filtered for the thread. It might not seem like much, but it improved /pol/, and /b/ when they had IDs, by providing just enough accountability for people to think twice about ruining their reputation for an entire thread, locking themselves out of discussion.
I'm at a point where I need to actually do work at my job so ill keep this short but I'll be in this thread for the next 6 hours.
I counted 8 vidya culture threads currently. They haven't been stopped. there's also far far more marketing threads than there ever was culture threads even from
No I'm talking about "all time favorite maps" the kind of thread that will get 300 image replies over on that other chan. The kind of thread that used to get replies here. Also I agree vg is far better for videogame discussion and that's fucking sad.
The fact that "you don't see marketers as an issue" is disgusting. Go count the number of not vidya threads and marketer threads in the catalog. It should be vomit inducing.
that's only phone kids and a really limited amount of third world tech people who can do it.
Ban phones, problem literally solved forever. It's not like those kids can contribute anyway, all they do is spam, shitpost, and post shit upside down pictures.
There's only need of: more moderation; IDs to avoid samefags; bring back Sage for user moderation; ban tripcodes and names.
A sticky with pin pointed rules would help too.
A split isn't a good idea. But if they really want to create a new board, just make a /vc/ for eCelebs, twitter caps, gossip, Kickstarter and similar shit. But really, it won't change much anyway, it won't stop /pol/ and /a/ crossposters from posting off topic crap.
>think twice about ruining their reputation for an entire thread
1. Holy shit how fucking autistic are you that you care about something that?
2. Holy shit how retarded are you that you think someone seriously posting on /pol/ can have his reputation lower than it already is?
>1. Holy shit how fucking autistic are you that you care about something that?
People who enjoy a subject enough to post about it on 4chan you nerd. Thats the entire idea. Where do you think you are?
>2. Holy shit how retarded are you that you think someone seriously posting on /pol/ can have his reputation lower than it already is?
Theres a lot of 4chan functions you can use that are all explained in the FAQ you moron. I use sage all the time when theres a good thread I don't want to see hit the bump limit a mere 300 posts in.
The last time I remember /v/ and /b/ being civil was during a site wide blackout where the only way to get to the boards was to delete cookies and cache, and link directly to the second page. It was just enough to stop the younger shitposters from getting on the board. Everyone just got along better.
>I use sage all the time when theres a good thread I don't want to see hit the bump limit a mere 300 posts in
Are you being stupid on purpose?
Bumplimit on /v/ is always at 500, regardless of who used sage and who didn't
The last time I remember /v/ being civil was when for some reason people without a pass couldn't post images and therefore couldn't start threads
Obviously there are many problems with making this official policy but I have to admit /v/ was much better to read during that period.
>The last time I remember /v/ and /b/ being civil was
porn threads. For some reason those can be the most civil of all, up to downright polite and considerate at times.
In some countries and some routers they have a button that changes your dynamic ip.
>Literally a button press away
But you are too fucking idiotic to ever care and just want to shitpost your stupid ideas more than these posters do.
As much as I hate normalfags, redditors and newfags, I hate just as much /a/ and /pol/ idiots that come here posting non vidya threads, pretending they are videogames related.