Who is the best dragon in games?
Who's the best antagonistic dragon?
Who's the best non antagonistic dragon?
>Skyrim's winged foes were unparalleled in realism and set a new precedent for the best dragons in gaming
The best antagonist dragon from a gameplay perspective
Grigori for all 3.
>Who is the best dragon in games?
This is obvious
>Who's the best antagonistic dragon?
>Who's the best non antagonistic dragon?
He stole my heart.
Seriously though he's pretty antagonistic, although you could angle his motivations in such a way as to make him seem like almost an ally of sorts.
Grigori teaches a philosophy so fascinating it effected my perception of the real world, Alduin has no dialogue. Grigori has destroyed civilizations for as long as anybody can remember, Alduin threatened to slob about in the Norse afterlife eating souls. Grigori practices magic and language unknowable by mortals, Alduin barely speaks his own language that is also somehow spoken better by the Dovahkiin. Grigori decides who gets to become god, None of the gods or Deidra seem to even talk about Alduin. Defeating Grigori requires a protracted, challenging battle (provided you are not a ranger because rangers are OP) over a whole mountain range while Alduin requires 30 seconds. Grigori is enormous while Alduin is tiny.
Pretty much any dragon is cooler than Alduin, Bethesda really messed up.
Dragon God's not the best dragon in gaming but he the most badass when it comes to appearances
Hence why I said lore accurate Alduin
>Alduin has no dialogue
Alduin is supposed to be one talkative motherfucker that goes around and sometimes directly decided to fuck over whole aspects of existence and Deities while also making fun of them
>Alduin threatened to slob about in the Norse afterlife eating souls
Alduin has been fully consuming all of existence for ever, as in really for ever outside of time he has done it infinite amount of times. He is the very reason why mutliple myths exist in the first place, Dreugh civilizations really existed and Molag Bal was indeed king of the Kalpa but Alduin came and fucking erased it all and reset it back to convention.
There is literally fuck all that any Et'Ada can do to Alduin other than try to trick him or sneaky fuck him.
>Alduin barely speaks his own language that is also somehow spoken better by the Dovahkiin
Alduin should be able to command literally anything, the very reason why Mehrunes Dagon exists is because back when he was a free Et'Ada that could jump Kalpas he pissed off Alduin by hiding chunks of matteria away from him so that eventually each Kalpa would be too big for Alduin to consume, so Alduin just commanded him to be corrupted fucked up version of himself for ever.
>None of the gods or Deidra seem to even talk about Alduin
Alduin together with other parts of Aka-Tusk are the very reason why Gods can exist in the first place at all
>Grigori is enormous while Alduin is tiny.
Alduin should be so big that his wingspan covers all of the visible sky.
>Bethesda really messed up
I love how, as long as it's not shot down by Gough, it just stays in the air and burns you to a crisp. It feels great how the game actually comes up with a reason why a big winged monster would fight you on the ground instead of staying in the air safely. Unlike dragons in Skyrim or some shit that just land in front of you so you can conveniently whack at it.
no idea what any of that stuff mean but that does sound pretty damn impressive. I feel that his character lack presence in the game if you know what i mean. There was a disconnect between story and gameplay and the game suffered for it. To kill Alduin all I had to do was shoot him with my bow a few times. Grigori was a fucking ordeal and don't get me started on the Ur-dragon. It's kinda like that episode of spongebob the fry cook games when plankton was announcing patrick's entrance. You thought it was going to be some huge monster of a contestant but it was just patrick. It's just a let down the world eater couldn't a few arrows to the chest.
bethesda made a huge logical error with Dragons in Skyrim in the first place
they are faggots that not only can breathe fire, but manipulate time, space, mind etc. because they don't breather fire, they control reality with their tonal architecture
there is zero reason for them to even let you near them
I mean when you read about old Thu'um battles in Sermons with guys like Huna and Y'smir, they just straightup do shit like control probability so that they win all the time or just lift up a town and throw it at each other etc.
No it wasn't, Hard just makes everything a OHKO. And then they just stuffed a bunch of OHKOs in the last dungeon anyway. Then again, that's basically what Souls does too and that's not hard either.
Bethesda simply can't keep up with their stories. No matter what they do or describe, it always ends up underwhelming when realized. Never as big, never as good, never as epic. Bit like a stage play.
It was fucking retarded, so retarded that lorefags had to come up with some form of logical hoops and explanations such as
>W-Well Alduin was weak and corrupted version of himself because he left his Kalpic purpose
It was a huge fucking backstab, not that making Alduin a villain was a good idea in the first place because of just how powerful and important to metaphysics he is
They could have done a lot better with some other famous Dragon, like Nifalilargus coming up with a plot to return Dragons or something along those lines
Now some guys will say that
>B-But Nifalilargus can't resurrect Dragons because to do a certain shout you need to understand it's very conceptual core and only Alduin as higher aspect of Aka-Tusk has innate understanding of time
But that's bullshit because most of these rules are from Skyrim in the first place and while they are interesting they could come up with something else that could return dragons AND have a villain that is impossible to do in a satisfying way, especially for Bethesda
See this would have all been great if it was what we actually got, or even a fraction of that. But instead we got a pussy version that could be killed just as easily as any other dragon. I mean this fucker is supposed to regularly be able to make daedra lords his bitches, yet in Skyrim I'd have a hard time believing Mehrunes Dagon wouldn't just backhand him out of existence.
There's only 3 enemies with OHKO moves. One is the final boss that is heavily telegraphed one is an enemy you are not suppose to fight and the other is a mimic which you'd have to be an fool to get OHKO'd by.
What's even more comical is that they do nod at the fact that Alduin is literally unbeatable on Mundus, when you fight him with Paarthrunax and he flies away he says that
>I am firstborn of Aka, I can not be slain on this mortal plane
And his health restores to maximum
Where does he fly away? TO SOVNGARDE, ONE OF THE FEW PLACES WHERE HE CAN BE BROKEN
WHY DID HE DO THAT BETHESDA?!
The only good dragon is a mostly dead one
Can an angry Tyrannosaurus Rex that breathes 200% dragon concentrate be called a dragon?
CENTAUR DRAGON OF JUSTICE REPORTING IN
short for professional
professional (of a person) engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as a pastime
I do not get payed to play games, your statement is false
Who >Blue Shenlong here?
>Chill in water
>Summon storms whenever
>Make sailors worship you
>Game features a dragon
>It's the easiest boss in the game
Why is this allowed?
>Angelus. My name is Angelus. You are the first and the last of your kind to know my name.
I think all these fantasies about riding dragons or befriending dragons are pretty unfounded. If something as powerful/magical as dragons had intelligence equal to humans they would just kill us on sight.
Honestly, if they were really as intelligent and ancient as most stories say, humanity would never have been allowed to develop enough to challenge them. they would probably end up living somewhat like we do now, while everything else is stuck as dumb animals.
No I'm just saying that's why typically physically imposing bosses tend to be the easiest in there game's. Like the Tower Knight Gaping Dragon Amadala or the Dragon God. It's to make you feel good about youself then its the smaller less physically impressive bosses that push your shit in. False King Allant Lord Gwyn Ghram the first hunter.
Arokh was cool as fuck
>"I'm right here, you don't need to yell"
Basically, he antagonizes you for your own good. Or, at least, for the good of the world. Also, at some point in the past, he was in the exact same position as you are throughout the game, he just wasn't strong enough to finish the final boss.
>Grigori has destroyed civilizations for as long as anybody can remember
Grigori is just another Arisen who was defeated by the Seneschal. You take his place if you die at that point too. That's all dragons are, Arisens who lost.
>guyss whats the difference between a goat and a bull, they both have horns so arent they the same thing???/
Stat's didn't really matter outside of BBI.
Dragons are generally portrayed as intelligent enough to be resurrected as zombies. Why do they always behave like mindless beasts?
These things exist instead. But they're really just smart because they eat a lot of fish.
>tfw no Mat Daimon ending for the main game
I did like how there were bad endings in the game though.
>Why do they always behave like mindless beasts?
Because they're equipped with sharp teeth and claws. Do you expect them to pull a gun on the hero just because they're intelligent enough to know how to use one?
Alduin is a pretty chill guy.
He has defeated the evil Daedric princes and brought back Order to the world.
Skyrim is just you being the bad guy and stopping Alduin from erasing the evil world and starting the world anew
Of course. Humans have powerful teeth too but a spear is just better. Dragons need a fucking minigun or some shit so they can nail all those shitty knights before they get within stabbing range.
>you will never be a huge ass lizard lazily chilling in the sun on a hot day
Human teeth are strong but the muscles in the jaw are weak compared to predators that kill with their teeth. A dragon has, in general, the best stats. Scales harder than armor, teeth and claws sharper than weapons and breath of breathing whatever. They did or do not require weapons because they already come equipped with the best ones.
If dragons used their intelligence they'd have used their treasures to go into trading and eventually end up rich enough to rule by wealth.
That CYOA: Dragon Edition had something like that. You can rule by force, wisdom, wealth or just sit around and be a useless piece of shit.
I went with force and some goddamn humans actually took my eye out. Then my armies fell to a coalition and I had to flee the nation. Fucking bullshit.
It's a Dragon with guns, it's been both antagonistic and non antagonistic and it's literally the Overlord of all Dragons
I don't think X will have them. We'll be waiting for quite some time.
>Try to run away
>OHKO fire breath all over the area
>Stab its leg
>It looks over at me for a moment with minor annoyance before blowing me up
Based Guardian of the Woods here
You're a cool dude, I like you
Yeah I'm also rolling with a cozy dragon, lol
That's a kick-ass idea for a dragon ,but... I'd be surprised if what you wished for didn't mean you have low self esteem.
You know what I'm saying?
no i have no idea what you are saying.
I never liked breath attacks
Hydras are cool
I like the dragon in a castle archetype and I also like them to be feared, not to speak to humans and all that jazz.
idk how self esteem came into that.
Maybe I was projecting or something but it just seemed to me like that with wanting to be a big bad guy that people are scared of.
You know that's usually what people say when they have been bullied or something in their lives.
No offense my man.
Alduin reking Mehrunes Dagon is told in an old tale in which Mehrunes Dagon is called The Greedy Man or something like that if I remember correctly.
I think it was something related to the Skaal of Solstheim, but you have to read between lines.
I guess you're right.
I'd just want to be a lighter kind of dragon. Just like I try to be "light" in terms of my real life personality.
It probably doesn't make any sense to you but to me it does lol
Best chance of fitting into the real world. Ideally, masked means no black helicopters, Drakes are small enough to make use of some human amenities if they're careful, Gold/Umbral just sounds neat and hibernation doesn't even sound like a downside. Comfy as fuck.
And it's an amazing fight, too. In general, monster hunter has the best dragons, wyverns, leviathans, serpents, and sheng longs in gaming, that aren't QTEs but fully combat-able.