No, I'm just one guy who plays games from 11 years ago because there's almost absolutely nothing else worthwhile playing that's been released in the past few years.
I'm doubtful we're going to get anything alike VtMB in terms of quality writing, VA and all that other stuff. But it surely can't be worse than CCP holding the whole IP hostage and not doing anything with it... right?
>tfw you played VTMB so much that you cannot even touch it anymore, because there's nothing new besides WESPS stupid shit
Played through every clan, used to frequently make the /vg/ threads a year or so ago, played through a year long V20 game, read several of the books (all terrible), and now I've completely lost interest in anything Masquerade related.
So I'm hoping they make a nWoD game, maybe something with Hunter the Vigil. Because I made a huge mistake getting so interested in Masquerade, I tell you what.
EA would have given it to Bioware and that would have been just painful to watch.
Ubisoft would... they'd just turn it into AC-like franchise. So that means ruining it one game at a time.
And Bethesda... I think I'd rather the IP be dead forever than that happen.
You played Redemption too, right?
>imblying there wasnt plenty of "diversity" there already
nines is a latino, skelter is a nigger, lacroix is french, fat lary is a nigger, a million female characters, in fact if the game was made today shitposters on v would call it an sjw-game and kill all threads with their shit flinging
She's the finger down your spine when all the lights are out. She's the name on all the men's room walls. When she pouts the whole world tries to make her smile. And everyone always wants to know. Who... is... that... girl?
Caine sires you for some reason and pulls something out of his ass to mask your presence.
Go around doing menial shit for strong as fuck vamps who somehow don't know what gen you are and don't diablerize the fuck out of you.
You become OP as fuck within the first hour of the game and rush through the main quest in no time at all.
caine sired you because he was bored as fuck and wanted to fight someone being the special snowflake that you are, you beat him and challenge god himself in the dlc
The difference being is that none of them goes out to say "HEY I'M LATINO/BLACK/FRENCH/A WOMAN" like it's the most important part of their character.
Like it's been said many, many times, /v/ doesn't mindlessly hate these kinds of things, they hate it when it's done in a poor way or when it's made just to pander to retards.
>lacroix is french,
Strictly speaking, he's Belgian - the worst type of French.
I've seen numerous shitposts about the black Brujah player model alone.
/v/ kneejerks about niggers and women just as much as the ess jay doubleyas they hate kneejerk about soggy knees and other asinine shit - Let's not lie to ourselves.
I get the point you're trying to make, but /v/ isn't one person and a good chunk of faggots on here throw fits if there's some black character somewhere in the background.
At the moment, I'm putting these types of concerns at the back of my head. The first thing I'm waiting for is more direct news on the future of the VtM/WoD franchise in gaming.
>I've seen numerous shitposts about the black Brujah player model alone.
That's odd, because I haven't seen a single seen one in the 8 years I've been using this board.
Maybe you could link to some of these posts in the archive. I'd really like to see what I've been missing.
Any, either, all, none. Nossies don't really give a fuck about factions. They're more loyal to the clan than anything. Sabbat Nossies and Cammy Nossies maintain communication. They're more interested in their information network than other clans politicking.
>I've seen numerous shitposts about the black Brujah player model alone.
I've been in hundreds, if not thousands, of VtMB threads on /v/ alone in the past 7-8 years and I can't remember seeing anything of the sort.
>but /v/ isn't one person
Then why are you trying to make it out like some insignificantly small portion of the board represents the whole?
>Maybe you could link to some of these posts in the archive. I'd really like to see what I've been missing.
Given that he's not replied to either of us, I'd say he was full of bullshit.
>I've seen numerous shitposts about the black Brujah player model alone.
I'm not the biggest VtMB fan, but I have literally never seen shitposts about her ever.
Are you lying, anon?
But wasn't all that made in Carbon engine, which they don't own? They'd have to lease it.
All of that can literally be shoved into any engine under the sun, unless they have a proprietary format for each, which I highly doubt.
>Everyone just wants to play fucking Pathfinder.
>tfw no one wants to play Dark Sun 2E with me
I actually like the game, on some levels, more than VtMB. But maybe that's just because I'm a hopeless romantic.
Shut up, you bicycle tire.
Yeah, whoops, my bad. That just sort of snuck in in the middle of all these other screenshots I got.
I don't know anything about Vaulderie or how it got in my Vampire folder.
>Gets near completion
>Creators won't shut the fuck up about it so it gets canceled by CCP due to the devs being fucktards who can't keep their mouths shut
Christ, nobody in the un-official remake community have any brains at all.
>Don't talk about it until its released
>It gets released
>Talk about it a lot
>Always C&D'd ALWAYS
What are the chances they restart work on Project Vaulderie now that CCP no longer owns the IP?
They'd get so much more if they actually released a good product though.
Slim I'd say, Paradox will most likely want to do something with the IP instead of let it rot like CCP did.
Either way things are looking up, and would you look at that, my copy just installed. Time to Isolate.
What clan /v/?
>tfw the sun is shining outside
>tfw can't play VtMB
A remake or revamped Bloodlines in the newest source engine generally seem like the easiest way to get a game out the door for them.
As long as they have the source code and everything else related to Bloodlines.
Honestly not sure how much CCP got when they bought out White Wolf seeing as Bloodlines came before the merger.
I'd be fine with that being a start honestly, an HD re-release of bloodlines with fixed bugs and the patch baseline would be great. Maybe alternate solutions for Sewers and all that so new players don't quit the game.
One thing I really wonder about is how much recorded dialog was cut since they had to rewrite a good chunk really late in production because they were running out of time and Activision wanted the game out the door the moment the embargo on the source engine was up.
Originally there was a huge Sabbat part of Bloodlines, being able to join them instead of the Camarilla.
Was fucking ages ago but remember reading about at least a 5th hub that was Sabbat controlled. Think it was Mexico City or something like that, but how far they got on that I never know. Maybe it was just planned if they had more time.
But still, I'd take a fixed Bloodlines with improved gameplay in a heartbeat.
Are you serious? Have you never played Skellington: the Spookening? Best WoD game evar.
I remember reading something like that too, the whole conversation with andrei, especially as a nossie makes it seem like joining him was meant to be an option
also the another hub thing started because afaik Rik shafer said that the unused track "open season" was meant to be a hub-track in an area related to nines
I remember reading about the additional hub/cut info years and years ago.
Also know that they were suppose to give every clan the same treatment as Malk and Nosferatu when it came to dialog. Obviously not as detailed for some, but say Gangrel could really have used a good deal of unique dialog considering they generally fucking hate cities.
Funny finding those small tidbits of what they had to cut to make you realize just how fucking grand their original idea for the game was.
>every single thread someone posts WoD MMO screens, they all look great, atmospheric as fuck, but everyone else just ignores it
I know it hurts, /v/ , but we have to talk how the MMO would be
I don't think Paradox is interested in making an MMO.
And even if they did, can you imagine how DLC riddled it would be?
I ask, yet again: where the fuck can I find the whole soundtrack to download?
>he bought the game
Serves you right.
Complete this sentence:
Queen bitch is _______
>I don't think Paradox is interested in making an MMO.
They're primarily publishers at this stage, so it's unlikely (in the short term) that they'd run with an MMO. Much more likely is a spiritual sequel to V:tMB. It's possible, later on, that they might try to launch an MMO. It really depends on how much work CCP has already done.
>And even if they did, can you imagine how DLC riddled it would be?
Practically all their DLC is cosmetic. The stuff that isn't usually amounts to a full-blown expansion.
You didn't know?
Paradox Interactive bought White Wolf and all of its properties from CCP.
Hence the resurgence in recent threads.
With Avellone gone from the studio, and Josh Sawyer's autism about balancing the fun out of video games, I'd rather not see that happen.
>implying you don't want her to tie you to the bed, sit on your face and grind her undead pussy into your mouth while telling you what a worthless ghoul you are
It gets better, little fella. Obsidian and Brian Mitsoda are already talking to Paradox about a new game.
Not that I'm aware of.
But weren't those guys shut down because they asked for money?
>But weren't those guys shut down because they asked for money?
Not even close to true. They were shut down when CCP hit them with a cease-and-desist for copyright infringement.
If you count in a donation button then yes.
>tfw no regular/tattered clothes for Nosferatu
>only BDSM gear
Hang on, are we talking about Project Vaulderie?
Oh damn. My bad. I mixed this up with something else then.
>Every female in VtmB is hot as fuck
>No porn of them
Fuck me, I'd kill for r34 of Venus.
While I'm not saying there's a whole lot, for one reason or another, there's been some Bloodlines porn made in SFM. You can find it on the R34 site. There's Jeanette and Pisha so far.
>she tells you to go elsewhere if you're a Nossie
To be fair, they do have Obfuscate which does have this:
>Mask of a Thousand Faces: Change your appearance and mannerisms to mimic someone else
That's just one of the standard powers.
But it's not in VtMB because it would probably make things too easy for a Nosferatu.
>I was a burn victim as a small child
>being such a newfag the first thing you do is pick up stupid memes and ask stupid questions
get out, retard, VTM deservers better threads than shit OPs like you
Nosferatus are bros, especially among each other. There isn't really a hierarchy in clan Nosferatu. They just sorta get along, seeing older clan members as mentors.
They're also great artists however unlike the vain Toreadors, they will create masterpieces and show them to no one. Keeping their work hidden underground in shadows.
For what purpose?
>I feel like they'd be more willing to keep the adult vibe.
GTA is literally aimed at teenagers, you know that?
Pretty much every Obsidian game has a 2deep4u narrative that involves some philosophical shit. You really can't get more "mature" (I fucking hate this word but whatever) than that.
Fuck no, they write the most retarded stories ever.
I have no idea why people like them so much.
>tfw when I read through all the oWoD metaplot after playing through VtMB
I still want to play VtM tabletop, but I'm not sure if it would hold the same mystery as if I were playing it with fresh eyes
>I don't think he'd let her touch Vampire since he would kill to work on it again
It's his wife. And she just jumped on the train without even being asked "I DIDNT WORK ON THE FIRST, BUT IF HE'S IN, I'M IN TOO! WOOOOOO!".
I doubt Avellone or Mitsoda have the balls to deny her.
Sounds like you little eunuch went for Therese.
And yes, Obsidian are SJWs and Paradox are Swedes, Im very fucking worried.
Shouldve let the franchise rest in peace after Gehenna.
You know what he means you fucking autist. There'd be no more of this because anything sexual triggers neo-Obsidian.
Guys, I'm in the middle of my first playthrough, and I can't put my finger on why I like this game so much. It's the first RPG I've ever put more than 3-4 hours into.
Are there any similar RPGs?
>the realization that'd you technically be fugging a corpse
Is that nWoD art? It looks like it.
I dunno. I just saved it because it looked cool.
Obsidian outright censors a tranny joke from a guy who paid to make it.
You think super sexy women and daddy-raped-be-and-then-I-went-insane-and-killed-him-stories would be in an Obsidian game?
No triggering content allowed.
Inb4 you leave the thread or make some bullshit excuse how it doesnt matter.
They cave in to crying SJWs, no WoD game can work with such devs.
The guy came out saying he contacted Obsidian to replace it. He replaced it with another limmerick mocking those who got offended. If Obsidian truly were massive SJWs like you claim they are, they wouldn't have accepted the new limmerick either because it straight up insults them.
Wasn't that the guy who made that joke himself who changed it? Obsidian didn't ask him to, he did it on his own.
Don't get me wrong, I think that's bullshit too, wanting to change in-game content because it offends someone's sensibilities, but at least get the facts straight.
You faggots do realize it takes massive balls to release a game like Bloodlines now?
Every SJW crying and every "journalist" giving it a low score for having triggering content?
Obsidian actively went for censorship, and that joke was much less "triggering" than Bloodlines.
Hell, only the Japs would dare to include such content nowadays, all western devs are too scared.
>Actually, there was a choice. They asked me if I wanted to change in light of what happened. I chose to change it so that they can concentrate on the game instead of this PR nightmare.
You do realize that Obsidian isn't bound to any publisher at all, right? They can have those balls and the people on their forums will fucking support them for it and so will a big majority of /v/. They don't need to sell 5 million copies (>implying SJWs play videogames, much less buy them) to stay afloat.
can't wait to play Vampire: The Triggering - Diversity
it'll be so great playing a pangender transblack demiqueer PoC who uses xir pronouns as all of the other landwhale vampires fight the patriarchy
God damn it. Seems I was wrong after all.
Why is Obsidian going to shit? Is it Sawyer? I know he's the most prominent face of SJW bullshit in Obsidian, but who else could it be?
No wonder Avellone left.
Sawyer was the one that responded to the crazy SJW on twitter, yes. He said "I'll bring it up with the team, thanks. Sometimes stuff escapes us"
Also, Avellone is a massive SJW as well. He supported Anita Sarkeesian. You just don't notice it because he doesn't write about SJW-shit in his games.
>be freshly embraced tzimisce
>fleshcraft a giant dick
>mfw no sex drive
The RPG books? Yeah, they got decent fluff in them.
Best fluff is Vampire the Dark Ages/Masquerade, Demon the Fallen and Werewolf the Apocalypse.
Some folks recommended Wraith the Oblivion to me, but I haven't gotten around yet to reading that one.
>mfw i got to griffith park last night
Fuck that shit I swear to god
>time hits 00:00
>run to the tram
>it's not there
>werewolf casually walks in and slaps my shit
>tram arrives, i manage to dodge a couple of hits and get in
>escape with like 5% of my health and 0% of my blood
Save right after the cut scene
>werewolf rapes my shit cause im stuck in the shitty grass polygon bs
>werewolf kills me before the loading screen fades
>EVERY SINGLE TIME I CANT GET AWAY FROM THIS NIGGA
>5 fortitude aint doing shit, even with protean, knockdowns all the time
>noclip this entire section
Why does everyone bitch about the Sewers so much?
Did you all fall for the "Ranged Weapons" trap?
The real pain in the ass in this game is when you have to invade the Kuei-Jin temple. Infinite spawning enemies, all of them armed, the world's shittiest combat system being your only ally, while you navigate a maze.
>be freshly embraced ravnos
>clan weakness: one specific vice, being a rapist
>mfw no sex drive
mfw have to spend half my blood pool to keep my hardon
I don't remember there being re-spawning enemies. Sliced up the place pretty quickly.
FUCK the sewers though, spent half an hour traversing that shit hole before no clipping through the door to the warrens.
Auspex-users can, but it's not like it matters.
No, that's nWoD, i.e. Vampire the Requiem.
The general is awful, especially if you're into VtM, it's true.
Should've taken cover in the only building on site m8
You generally don't play the metaplot, it's mostly there for background. If your ST is competent, you'll care more about the unique characters you're introduced to within your particular chronicle.
>playing as mortal
>"SOMEONE TURN ME INTO A VAMP PLS"
>"PLS TURN ME"
>"I WANNA BE A VAMPIRE PLS!"
>doesn't get executed for breaking the masquerade
What was the deal with her arm? I don't remember ever even getting a chance to bring it up, is there something about it in the lore or is it just one of those things that are there and don't have any explanation?
Damsel is cute. CUTE!
Got a few questions regarding V:TMB
What race of vampire was that big bodyguard serving Lacroix?
What was the secret that Maximilian Strauss could reveal only if you were from his clan?
Obsidian @Obsidian 39s40 seconds ago
There's an air around the office that in 5 days there are suddenly going to be a lot of sick people.
*coughs* Seems contagious.
Do nosferatus spread disease?
Anons i'm in the sewers trying to get up the fucking reservoir. The one past the electrified control room. Is there a trick or easier way to doing this? Or do I just have to swim hard and pray after turning the turbines on?
>What race of vampire was that big bodyguard serving Lacroix?
its something like as soon as you turn the pumps on you have to bolt into the fucking tubes and swim as far as you possibly can
its been a few years since i played last but i remember being stuck there too
The Sheriff's clan is never mentioned, but LaCroix says he found him in Africa so he's probably one of the African clans. The White Wolf wiki says Nagloper, which are apparently like African Tzimisce
I think the secret is that the Hollywood Theater Gargoyle was created by Strauss, but I remember getting that without being Tremere. Might have been because of the Unofficial Patch though
turning into big bat is chirpoteran marauder, a vicissitude 6 discipline
but that thing he did in the intro where he literally blows some fags into dust, im thinking thats some koldun bullshit
doesnt make sense though, tzimisce HATE tremere with such a burning passion they would never EVER work with camarilla
if he has use of a 6th level discipline that means hes at least 7th gen
which begs the question, what gen is lacroix to be able to dominate him. he must be at LEAST 6th gen then
>Why does everyone bitch about the Sewers so much?
Because they didn't listen to Nines.
COME THE FUCK ON.
>The kid is a fucking murderer and he should face justice,
Then kill them all. I actually killed them all on my first playthrough because I didn't know that you could talk to them.
the Anarchs were right
That power he uses in the beginning is the Animalism 5 power. African Tzimisce (Naglopers) wouldn't have the same prejudice against Tremere considering they weren't involved in the war and feud since Africa is so isolated.
Reminder that Tremere are posers riddled with Baali infilitrators
Of the True Antediluvians? No way to tell. Augsutus Giovanni and Tremere would be the weakest of the 3rd Generation Vampires. Troile would probably be next weakest. Malkav was probably pretty weak considering he got torn to shreds...Cappadocius was a pacifist but not really weak. Had more than enough power to stop his own Diablerie but didn't do it.
>hear about the rest of the pier being accessible
>beckett wants you to meet a guy there
>bracing for more shitty fan VA
>just a note
dodged a bullet there. Still have to hear the cringeworthy lasombra though. Christ, that dialogue was written by wesp right? I could do better
Shit, probably Tzimisce or Lasombra. Ennoia basically became one with the earth, Ventrue Anti is believed to be dead I think but another theory says He/She/It slept through Gehenna to rise afterward as the sole remaining Antediluvian. There's not a lot of information on some of the Antediluvians. My guess for strongest would be Lasombra or Tzimisce though.
What happened with the Lasombra Antediluvian? I remember something about how he supposedly became one with the Abyss and strove to collapse the whole thing into the real world.
>Shit, probably Tzimisce or Lasombra.
I love the fact both Antis fooled their progeny into thinking they're dead. Moreover, that they died by their children's own hands and that's the foundation of Sabbat basically.
Anarchs are hypocrites. They claim to be all about inidvidual freedom but, in reality, they have their own princes (barons) who are just as arrogant and oppressive as the Camarilla.
Isaac is the classics example. He's a bullying, arrogant piece of shit. Even though he was sired in the 1920s, he calls Lacroix (sired in 1815) a baby-faced neonate. He manipulates you, makes ridiculous demands, uses you to clean up his mess and provides absolutely no help.
Fuck the anarchs.
>not manning the fuck up
As utterly fucking stupid it is, I love being able to just man up and fuck something up that should wreck me
I think it's wesp
During the first Anarch Revolt, Lasombra childer swarmed the Lasombra Antediluvian's place on an island in the Mediterranean. One of which was 4th Gen Gratiano. Not much information about it all directly but Gratiano walked out and was seemingly more powerful so people believed he killed Lasombra by Diablerie. In the modern nights however, in the Lasombra Trilogy, it's discovered that there's some inconsistency with the dates and it's discovered Gratiano was Domianted. The only person that could have is Lasombra. Basically it seems like it was an excuse for Lasombra to shuffle off the last of a mortal coil and go live in the Abyss. Lasombra returns during Gehenna and destroys whole cities at a time while hunting down its childer.
I had only played plus, and when I saw him in his original location it seemed weird to me. I like where he is in plus
shame about all the other recent shit, what the fuckl wesp
I did, it's just stupid that you get negative karma, or that the entire settlement of arefu becomes hostile to you somehow. Should have been able to mete out justice, then explain it to the old guy in town. I fucking hate bethesda writing sometimes
>Obsidian would remove the entire sexual aspect, though.
>I think VtmB would work great as what is essentially a GTA skin but in a Yakuza sized city.
>become a Vampire
>think you are finally a badass
>NOPE. Everyone else, even humans, can slap your shit. Vampires are pretty much at the bottom of the food chain
>walk outside into the sunlight
Come on, I think Vampires are at least above Changelings, at least in oWoD (in nWoD Changelings are pretty fucking hardcore and if a vamp fucks with a sufficiently powerful Summer Courtier he's boned).
Some tracks put into areas that are really questionable and kind of ruin the feel of the area, like the ocean house and such. The tracks are good, just not fitting.
Also, the entrance to the museum is fucked now
I started playing around 8.6ish, so nothing super questionable had been changed about the game anyway
and I heard there were more soundtracks in the plus version
I mean, is that even possible?
I played as a Grangel with full Protean/Fortitude and my unarmed attacks did literally 0 damage, while he ravaged me with 33% letal damage on me for every attack.
How the fuck do you even damage him?
You start out in the parking lot across the street, and enter through the front door. This makes it so you will probably not come across the raptor, or see it from a distance away
wesp plus patch
Please. Humans can't slap your shit. They have to work super hard in packs essentially to fuck your shit. True Faith is super rare.
Humans: Take full damage from bashing and can't soak lethal at all. Take months to heal.
Vampires: Take half damage from bashing and can soak lethal, and heal it instantly. Also bullets count as bashing to vampires.
It doesn't matter if you are two weeks or two centuries old. You still got the shit end of the stick if you get turned into a vamp in the WoD setting. Imagine being a Mage and getting trolled into becoming a Tremere Vamp. Holy shit how they didn't just kill themeslves right then and there when they realized that their cunning plan didn't turn out the way they had hoped.
>The Women in History free DLC was announced on 2015-03-06 and released 2015-03-08 alongside Patch 1.11. Unlike the free Songs of Yuletide music pack, Women in History is automatically downloaded and does not need to be added to your Steam account.
>The DLC is named as 'Politically Correct Edition' in Steam's database, and includes some changes in event text like replacing He is... with They are... to reflect gramatically presence of women characters in the game.
>destroys whole cities at a time while hunting down its childer.
One thing I never got about the antideluvians. Did they have a reason for wanting to do that shit? I mean, Caine is presented as the ultimate butthurt asshole but even he doesn't go around obliterating people just because.
Also, the Hunter-tier needs one special slot for this guy:
>True Faith: 8
They thought it was their last resort. Their youth elixirs were failing because human belief was changing. In the end, a lot of Mages rely on human belief and that's why there's a war over the control of sleepers.
Being a werewolf would just suck. You don't die of old age, you die fighting the wyrm. Mummies can't die and aren't particularly powerful....Vampires don't really have it all that bad in comparison to some. Wraiths can be wiped out by particularly bad Shadowland storms.
>wait for guards to go back to routines
I'm running the Unofficial Patch and guards rarely do this. I had two guards staring at the keypad and thankfully had Blood Purge to be able to complete the mission without killing anyone.
They just wake up really, really hungry and go Frenzy. Shit gets out of control and nothing still active can really Dominate or otherwise calm down Antediluvians, Caine notwithstanding and he's sleeping in a cave somewhere.
first-timer here, what kind of character should i play? the quiz gave me nosferatu but they're so damn ugly and the draw of these games for me is dialogue and shit so i doubt i'll be having any charismatic moments with them as much as id like
That's not an official explanation.
One that makes more sense is that you're just a low generation Neonate that comes into his power through a lot of experience. You start of powerful but you're a fumbling baby in the dark because your sire can't teach you.
>It looks like he sliced up your face and sewed it back on the wrong order
>It's just a birthmark
>But I've got a heart! Wanna see it?
I should do a Nostefartu playthrough again sometime.
true fae are an nwod thing
I got you famm
Because he doesn't want to get involved himself.
Doesn't want to show his hand, so to speak, openly.
Miracles are at True Faith lvl 5.
This guy is 3 dots over the max.
So that means he can probably enter a building and everyone there starts convulsing for no reason. When he enters a room, they, up to Methuselah generation probably, just fall into torpor and he drains them.
Hell, the whole of vampire kind has a "DON'T GO ANYWHERE NEAR THAT GUY" in the hopes of him dying of old age.
Yeah that crazy motherfucker. Guy seems like a fucking monster.
Gargoyles can, as can any vampire with protean or vicissitude supposedly. I figure they didn't do it because of limitations or whatever
So they can fly in the VtM/R PnP? That's nice to know, I thought Vampires in the Vampire didn't fly/float/have super speed like crazy motherfuckers.
By the way, is their appearance as we see them in VtMB their true appearance, or is it just a disguise? Like, do they take on a human appearance just to fit in and disguise themselves?
If so, what's their true appearance? Bat-like, like that Sheriff dude?
Tremere can with Movement of the Mind
Gargoyles can if they have Flight discipline
Tzimisce would only be able to with Vicissitude 6 generally
Protean allows transformation into flight animals and mist at higher levels.
No, most vampires are as you see them. The only ones that often 'really' look different from their actual selves are tzimisce because of their fleshcrafting. The sherriff guy turns into a bat because of his bloodline disciplines. I think he has protean or something, which allows you to turn into various animals
>tfw trying to buy the 20th aniversary edition and the clans bundle through drivethru rpg but something always comes up when i have the disposable income.
man I have such a fun little campaign idea planned out for some people that would probably be fun for a first time game