>Changed an NPCs dialogue in WoW: MoP to pander to SJWs >Changed a boat's name in WoW: WoD to pander to SJWs >Added a character to Overwatch to pander to SJWs (can't wait till someone tries to deny this when they said it themselves) >Changing Sylvannas' outfit in WoW: Legion to pander to SJWs
Zarya was planned way before SJWs started complaining.
Or do you seriously believe Blizzard managed to concept, model, voice, animate and somewhat balance a character in a game with 20 "heroes" in just under 2 weeks? If you do, you're a moron. And you have obviously no idea what you're talking about.
"We've been hearing a lot of discussion among players about the need for diversity in video games. That means a lot of things. They want to see gender diversity, they want to see racial diversity, they want to see diversity along the lines of what country people are from. There is also talk about diversity in different body types in that not everybody wants to have the exact same body type always represented. And we just want you to know that we're listening and we're trying hard and we hope Zarya is a step in the right direction."
>>315527507 >Unlike every other hero so far, she doesn't appear in any concept art that has been released. Junkrat, Soldier 76 and Lucio. didn't appear in any of the early concept art eigther.
>>315527578 > you cunt. I'm not the dumb fuck who believes they managed to cobble together a token character in just under 2 weeks in response to complaints. You give them way too much credit.
You fucks are so occupied by your SJW witch hunt you seem to lose any intelligence and critical thinking you used to have, now yo imbeciles have become almost as bad SJW:s. It's pathetic. And i laugh at your stupidity.
>>315528582 >Junkrat, Soldier 76 and Lucio. didn't appear in any of the early concept art either. Wrong. Lucio was in early concepts and S76 was the generic hero. Granted he went through some iterations to be less generic appearance wise. Junkrat could be only one who is new, though I'm not 100% sure.
>>315529424 >>A womanizer being a womanizer is dumb I might be thinking of different dialogue >You're right, it didn't. But the only reason they changed it is because of bumblr outrage it was probably just some nobody programmer who named it and no one cared until people complained, when they went back and said "this name is vaguely offensive and also makes no fucking sense, so let's change it" >I don't even know what you're trying to say here, apparently Metzen's daughter saw a bunch of WoW stuff and asked him why Alexstrazsa and Ysera wear nothing but "swimsuits" all the time and that got him thinking about the character designs in WoW and changed Sylvanas because of it
>Sylvanas is down to her last couple Val'kyr and is terrified of dying because of what awaits her >her paranoia is eating away at her more and more as time goes on >so she puts on more armor to feel safer and more prepared
Hey look, I justified it easily and you're a complete faggot. I fucking hate this place.
>>315531112 No, it doesn't. They added a character for variety. And why do you think they can only pander to one demographic? Get the fuck over it, they'll have a big fat chick in the game and your waifu bait. Live with it.
Only to people who tried to make it offensive. Again, they literally had to fucking scrape the bottom of the barrel for dialogue from a 5 year old dungeon and twist it with logic so backwards that would make a biodrone's head spin to make it offensive.
I think you're the one with autism friend. They have been pandering to SJWs for years now, even if only a little. Nobody is saying that they are going to add a million trannies and gender fluid xirs to overwatch, but even Blizzard themselves said the character was added to make people happy about muh diversity.
I thought the issue with SJW pandering was that they changed things? What they did in overwatch was just diversify who the game appeals to. Why is this an issue? Your complaints make sense if they removed widow maker for Zarya but they didn't, they have both. Wanting Zarya gone or no appealing to people who like that makes you sound like the SJWs you claim to fucking hate
>I cannot tolerate if this game tries to appeal to anyone but me exclusively
>>315531609 >Only to people who tried to make it offensive. Again, they literally had to fucking scrape the bottom of the barrel for dialogue from a 5 year old dungeon and twist it with logic so backwards that would make a biodrone's head spin to make it offensive. which leads to the big problem with the name. Even in the best possible scenario, it makes no fucking sense. When was Tyrande ever silent? When was her silence so noteworthy that it deserves having a ship named after it? It's bad writing that got fixed because someone bitched about it for a stupid reason.
>>315531798 >more of a problem Except it didn't, literally nothing has changed or happened to fucking date it's just people like you screaming about virtually nothing, trying to point out ANY minor thing in anything as evidence of some evil enemy. And you're confused why those of us who are sane get sick of you crying over and over that SJWs have ruined your games when it hasn t happened?
It's the same thing, adding, replacing, and removing things because of them, and making PR statements about it instead of doing it in a way that doesn't seem shoehorned. No one is telling you to boycott the game or that the game is shit as a result.
>>315531784 >that pic nice false equilancies SJWs only want to censor video games and anything they deem "offensive". They will use any means to achieve their "righteous" goal whether it's death threats, petitions and self victimization until the artists and devs cave to their demands.
>>315523968 its coming to consoles now, meaning they dont have to reskin the base character. They can offer alternate costumes as micro-transactions and get extra dosh out of the sjws while still pleasing the base fanbase.
Blizzard are great at sniffing out loopholes that equate to them making more money. They are the ultimate jew of gaming.
I remember some minor uproar too about the Uldum questline with the goblin mafioso when Cataclysm was released. People saw it as an allegory to nazis and found it offensive, when it was just a big homage to Indiana Jones (even though the character the goblin was based on was indeed a nazi, and even made a "nein nein nein" joke).
>>315532507 So then why do you care, you keep implying it's negative. It isn't, there is nothing wrong with having a diverse cast instead of a uniform cast of characters who are all big titted thin women. Get the fuck over it.
>>315532561 >Only pointing out she was added to make SJWs happy. Why do you care at all? Why would this even remotely bother you?
>>315524174 Is that in her backstory? Somebody was married to generic badass number 6789-4?
Can you imagine the dinner conversations?
"Dear. I just don't know if I'm comfortable with you wearing your body suit unzipped all the time." "Look, Earl, the suit gets hot." "I know the suit gets hot! But I thought your skin was purple because your body temperature is artificially low!" "Right. When I say 'hot', I mean sometimes I get warm enough for my skin to not be purple, so I leave it unzipped." "I just don't understand the suit. Why is it neon pink?" "Standard issue." "And the heels?" "Also standard issue." "Alright, fine, dress how you want, but if I ever go to the office in a speedo to work with a bunch of sweaty women don't get on my case."
>>315532206 No you're absolutely right, /v/ only wants to censor: youtubers, Ecelebs, SJW's, anyone who holds even a slightly politicaly correct opinion, people who like "shit games", people who play video games past the age of 20, and basically anyone who's a normie.
Anti-sjws have gotten to the point they're more nuts and retarded than the SJWs they hate. Every overwatch thread is full of people crying about magical SJWs ruining and killing all the sexiness from overwatch.
>>315532802 No, the SJWs are still just as nutty if you go to where they hang out. They're fighting their own invisible enemies. It's an echo chamber thing. The patriarchy is everywhere, closing in as we speak! IT'S ALL WRITTEN IN CODE! They whine a lot in their circles about "subconscious messages", or hadn't you noticed?
I don't know why Blizzard keeps being brought up, though. I'm half convinced it's marketing. They're trying to get people talking about their shitty game, but I don't think people can get too excited with trash art design like this and Blizzard's poor track record for balance. Plus the back story for Overwatch is just stupid. The woman is literally purple and they try to explain it with straight-faced psuedo-science rather than some kind of snickering, over-the-top, first generation Star Trek shit about her being a spess alium.
>>315532004 >Tyrande's Silence >Tyrande makes the battlefield silent because her flying battleship obliterates everything >Tyrande is now someone you realise you don't fuck with or she will fuck you up
There, now SJWs can't complain because it would mean bashing a strong female character.
SJW:s started complaining as soon as footage started going out. About 2 weeks later after the controversy started, not months, Zarya came out. The entire point of this argument is that you or someone else claimed that Zarya was released due to complaints they got from tublrinas. When it is absolutely clear that she had been in development long before they got their first complaint.
I'm leaving this thread now, just letting you know one more time: You sound and act just like SJW:s. But instead of Patriarchy being the root of all evil, SJW:s are. You fags are even complaining that Overwatch is under attack and being actively changed for the worse due to Patri- Oh sorry: SJW:s.
Leaving now, have fun replying with your butthurt comments, i won't even see it.
>>315532990 People bitch about Cataclysm, but they made 1-60 (and new zones) levelling absolutely fun, and the trend continued with MoP and WoD (it's honestly the only redeeming quality about WoD, besides 3D models). Vanilla and TBC levelling is a snorefest in comparison.
What percentage of women, SJW's etc do Blizzard think they will attract with the "progressive" characters? I'm not that bothered about this shit in the game but im just curious as to what kind of return they will get, I know a lot of women play WOW but as for more reflex based games it seems like a harder sell to attract them.
>>315533819 I don't think they care if the SJW crowd plays their games. I mean, they're fucking toxic. Steven Universe's own producer actually called them out and accused them of being the world part of their fandom.
I think what Blizzard wants is the controversy so people will talk about them. Nobody can get hyped for their games without lying to themselves anymore, so people may as well get mad about them.
>>315534000 >World part Worst part, I mean. They encouraged some girl to kill herself because she drew a fat character as being skinny. Point is, no sane person actually wants to court the SJWs the internet has come to know and hate, but plenty of companies do want publicity.
She was the wife of some Overwatch guy the Talon or someone were trying to kill. They failed to kill him, so they took her, brainwashed her, and turned her into a sleeper agent. Overwatch finds her, she seems normal, then later she "wakes up" and kills her husband then goes back to Talon and they turn her into a ruthless assassin.
>>315533819 They're not after women, women don't play HotS or Starcraft or Diablo etc
They're after the white beta male ridden with liberal guilt over looking at a womans body and finding it attractive.
Same with gay propaganda, actual gays are too small an audience, but the liberal nerd is a HUGE audience and if you can make them feel more "Progressive" while selling them something you will make bank
>There are people who believe there is no such thing as an sjw
I know the acronym is stupid, but it is used to describe people that think they know what's best for humanity and are out of touch with reality. I'm sure they mean no harm but the way they do things is oppressive and totalitarian.
>>315535082 You mean this? http://www.wowhead.com/item=63271/a-steamy-romance-novel-big-brass-bombs I don't think they ever changed it. In fact, they added a picture in WoD, same with the other romance novels.
Nah, since Vanilla one of the zepplin engineers for the trip from Org>Grom'gol always used to proposition you to take her down to Stranglethorn when she next had free time so she could show you a "real jungle cat" or something to that effect.
Beta dialogue for female characters: >Hello, friend! You're some kind of gorgeous, aren't you? I bet you can't keep the men off of you! Join me! You and I are going to be good friends!
Current dialogue for both genders: >You seem poised and ready. I can tell we are going to be good friends.
And from a quest added in a later patch: >There's an optional dialogue prompt where your character says 'Maybe you should talk to her.' Ji responds, 'Should I tell her she's gorgeous, or would she find that creepy? Maybe I could tell her I admire her poise--but then she might think I don't have any personality!'
>>315532735 How? How can anyone on /v/ censor each other you retard? Unless you consider trying to keep the board on topic through discussions with Hiro and keeping not videogames out, you're full of shit.
>>315532345 How are you this blind? No one here is asking for the character to be censored or removed or altered. Disliking something is not the same as trying to censor it. Saying something is shit is not a call for removal. >>315531784 Someone post the more accurate one with the third panel.
>>315538123 Go ask /co/ what they think about Marvel and sjws. Fucking replacing established male characters with female, white with black, interracial relationships every other month, black man white woman to boot and so on. The only reason it isn't as pronounced in video games is because of shit like this thread and others saying fuck your shit.
>>315537052 You're right that self-righteousness isn't unique to progressives. A SJW is a left moral conservative. A Fundie or similar slur would be a right moral conservative, but Fundies are usually Christians.
It's all just people looking for a cause and a reason to feel good about themselves while they hurt people they disagree with.
>>315540002 >The only reason it isn't as pronounced in video games is because of shit like this thread and others saying fuck your shit.
I think it's more because unlike comics, gaming isn't a half-dead medium that has to do the most retarded shit to get attention out of a tiny niche for sales. Also gaming is still getting hit pretty hard.
I would love to see what happens if a company, any company, just outright ignores all Twitter slactktivists.
>"HURRR! WE ARE OUTRAGE BECAUSE OF [Thing]! WE MAKE DEMANDS ABOUT [Thing] AND YOU DO IT!"
I want to see what happens after that. I want to see a large, powerful, publicly-traded company just straight-up tell some of these retards to fuck off, because it only takes one company to finally have the balls to do it. Once that happens, and everyone sees how powerless these people are, this will all finally go away.
>>315541370 Well, Zarya got a Gears of War body with tits. They did include a fat guy, though. This game is really all over the place, though. I can't tell if it's supposed to be post-apocalypse, high technology, cyberpunk, or what. They're just smashing a bunch of tropes into one game.
>>315523968 She's already a pandering character, dumbfuck. She panders to lonely virgin neckbeards. There's no point in making her pander to another demographic when they have other characters for that.
>>315541684 It's almost shameless how they don't give a fuck about consistency in design, they just want characters that will appeal to any and every single freak on this planet. Isn't LoL like that as well?
>>315544324 Is there an actual narrative for LoL, though? Blizzard has been half-baking some kind of backstory for Overwatch, but the characters have so little in common I don't think they could come up with anything that would make sense.
>>315544084 Anita raked in a half million dollars by the end of 2014 and has been fucking absent through all of 2015. She was named "ambassador to gaming" by Rolling Stone and appeared on the Colbert Report to bemoan the destructive nature of the male gender.
And that said, I think that after Gamergate the public has gotten kind of bored with gender politics and people aren't skittish to tell each other to just shut up. Unless you've got a real issue to talk about, just shut up. And Anita has never had a real issue - not even her supporters really like her work all the much. They just like what she represented and the publicity she brought to the cause.
Yup, SJWs are now targetting Overwatch since it's gaining popularity
>Showing an image of the main characters from the upcoming game “Overwatch,” Sarkeesian pointed out that the male characters have a range of body types, while all but one of the female characters are sexualized. >Finally, Sarkeesian asked the audience: “Where Are All the Female Combatants?” She pointed out that games rarely feature women as standard enemies and said that game designers she’s interviewed often say that this is done to avoid depicting violence against women.
>Makes video series calling out games for depicting violence against womyn >Developers shy away from making female enemies to dissuade feminist criticism >Call out developers for being sexist for not allowing players to fight against womyn
They still have to consider these things when releasing products overseas, and they have localization teams that also do this. It's probably why Tecmo isn't releasing DOAX3 outside of Japan, and they said they would need to make adjustments if they eventually decided to.
>>315545059 >fightingthatisverydeadly.jpeg Sarkeesian isn't trying to enact any sort of real change. It's puffery to get donations, and the only thing game companies can really do to not get harped on is make a game about the joys of Feminism and donating to Feminist pundits. Of course those games would sell like trash, so it's not like any game company will ever fully escape getting picked on.
>>315523968 youre a fucking idiot >put 1 big strong girl with pink hair to pander to SJW >make all other female heroes sex bots and confirm that hte next hero will be literally a Japanese Idol who looks like 16
>>315547967 Anon, why do you even waste the energy typing this shit. Men find women visually appealing more than women find men visually appealing, therefore anything having to do with that is sexy. You in a relationship? If you're the man it's sexist for you to want sex from the relationship unless the woman explicitly wants you to want it.
This is not a give-and-take thing you negotiate out of. Video games are fantasy, which includes sex, violence, and rock and roll. What are you going to defend that they'll listen to?
>>315545059 Ugh this woman >>315545202 >>315545225 >>315545450 >>315545971 >>315546689 We need a new approach. Has anyone tried having an actual debate with her or her cohorts over this kind of shit? Like, y'know, speak her language; send a challenge video or make a rival account and invite her. You'd get a lot farther than just sending death threats or rageposting on /v/.
The difference is that those kind of characters are considered 'normal' and Blizzard/anyone isn't under threat from game journalists to add those characters in or have the game bombarded with negative feedback and publicity.
Whereas they HAD to add Zarya because kotaku, bumblr and pretty much all the big retarded voices would have exploded and bombed the game back into the stone age.
>>315548362 No, they don't tend to accept debates because they get smeared like bugs on a windshield whenever they do. This whole thing Anita does requires tyranny over the mic because she isn't really an "expert" and she doesn't know a whole lot about marketing, about cultures, or about the industries she critiques. Her PhD is in "TV Science" or some unheard of thing.
>>315548662 I know it does! I know there are women who like to watch gay porn and they're really into muscular super heroes and whatever. But there are also women who aren't into that, and men just tend to be more into visual sexual stimuli.
It's the kind of thing. You just can't win arguments when talking about this nonsense, because if you admit that men and women are different they treat you like a Nazi eugenicist, and if you try to point out that they'd do sex appeal for women if it sold as well, they use the fact that it doesn't sell as well to say "Well there's not as much of it so it doesn't count".
>>315531784 >I thought the issue with SJW pandering was that they changed things?
No the problem is they change things for products they don't even consume (They weren't going to play/watch it anyway), on moral grounds. There's nothing wrong with voicing your preferences to the producers of products you consume. Because you pay for this shit, and both you and the producer have an interest in it being to your satisfaction, weighed against the preferences of everyone else who potentially buys the product. And there's humility in what you like or don't like, there's no humility in taking the moral high ground.
>What they did in overwatch was just diversify who the game appeals to. Why is this an issue?
Street fighter tier national stereotypes is diversity now? I wish that was enough, but it won't be, they'll move the goalpost. Also what real evidence do we have that these changes broadened the audience? All it did was appease a vocal group that may or may not buy the game anyway.
I guess it's not an issue for the sole reason that overwatch is a new IP, and no established fanbase was betrayed here for a grab at the SJW audience that was never going to work.
>She pointed out that games rarely feature women as standard enemies and said that game designers she’s interviewed often say that this is done to avoid depicting violence against women.
Shows how new and clueless she is about gaming.
Pic related, games always had crazy bitches in the past, but these clueless feminists have no idea about it because they don't even care about anything that isn't popular at the moment/gives them attention.
I just thinks it's a major cultural thing. I've been to Europe and see racier stuff on their billboards. Selling deodorant? Naked tits in plain sight, no fucks given. At least in Scandinavia.
But in the States we've been nervous about nudity for generations. It's our thing over here, and Anita gets away with being sanctimonious about boobs not because she's an a new wave of female expression, but because she agrees with a social trend that's been present since before any of us were born. We just don't like sex in America. I mean, we do, but it's always a big faux paux.
>>315527014 Sjw complained at last blizzcon already right after the announcement during a Q&A . Fucking blizz are so full of shit when someone pointed out its just a tf2 clone they said it was intended annd they are proud people notice parallels between the games
Blizzard will pander to SJWs till the cows come home with shit like Zarya and Johanna's HotS redesign, but they'll also pander to the people who like sex appeal and Widowmaker's whole shtick is the black widow/femme fatale archetype. She's even French.
She's leeching money off of dumbass women and white knights. Maybe she actually believes the shit coming out of her mouth or maybe she's self aware and just dreams up shit that her loyal minions will throw money at her for saying. Either way she's living the dream and the only influence she has is on developers dumb enough to believe following her advice will get them more money.
SJWs borrow a lot of thinking from Communist states, they're very used to manipulating language and having it on their side. Having a pejorative label that can be used against them is their worst nightmare.
Underage detected, nothing wrong with Shooters with no campaign as long as they're decent enough. Counter Strike and Unreal Tournament are examples of that, UT has a campaign mode but its more like a training mode for the multiplayer experience.
>>315523968 This is the most embarrassing thing I've seen circulating on /v/
I mean how do you look at that and not think it was just made by a bitter faggot who was bullied for being a beta autist? Nobody makes fun of anyone for playing videogames, unless you're actually a fucking loser who would get bullied no matter what. If you honestly think you were ever bullied solely as a result of liking vidya then it's no wonder you were a target. You're a fucking idiot.
I really thought this image would be mocked when it was made but I see it posted over and over and now I realise just how fucking sad and deluded lots of people on /v/ really are. I mean are you fucking serious? Did you REALLY have girls laughing at you for playing videogames? Where does this happen? They laughed at you because you were ugly, not because you played videogames
And even if you DID grow up in some kind of bizarre alternate universe shithole where there was a girl actually fucking idiotic enough to laugh at you for playing videogames when you were 10 years old, maybe it's time you fucking got over it? Or better yet, hold onto that bitterness forever and ever and save images from memecenter 15 years later making fun of girls because you're STILL not over it.
I look forward to your buzzwords and non-argument replies.
>I wonder what the SJW's are thinking about >I wonder what they think about this game >I wonder when they'll say something next >We should show this to tumblr/neogaf/reddit/whatthefuckever and see how they react
>>315545059 >Finally, Sarkeesian asked the audience: “Where Are All the Female Combatants?” She pointed out that games rarely feature women as standard enemies and said that game designers she’s interviewed often say that this is done to avoid depicting violence against women. Didn't she also call out some other game where you could hit women by saying it promoted violence against women? What does this woman want? Oh right, more money.
It is worth playing now tho, you get unique cosmetic items(hats/skins) playing in the pre-alpha season by completing single player challenges and such. And its more than playable atm, I'm having a blast.
>men playing games about perfect strong sexy men for decades >no problem >women start playing games >immediately get riled up at the mere site of a sexy lady women have got some real issues going on in that head of theirs
>>315545059 >Makes video series calling out games for depicting violence against womyn >Developers shy away from making female enemies to dissuade feminist criticism >Call out developers for being sexist for not allowing players to fight against womyn
This is actually good though, because it's teaching companies that feminists are retarded and it's not only unwise to attempt to please them but literally impossible to succeed in doing so.
>>315555060 You are downplaying the threat she poses. People like Colbert have worshiped her on mainstream television and she even gave a speech to the UN about how they need to censor the internet more.
>>315556719 >UT has a campaign mode but its more like a training mode for the multiplayer experience. You could easily play nothing but singleplayer in 99 and feel like you got your money's worth out of the game, and 2k4's campaign is legitimately amazing.
I'd be surprised if Overwatch even has passable bots, and it's a 60$ game (for reference TF2 didn't come with bots either, but it was 20-30$ standalone, or in the 60$ Orange Box). This is pretty stupid.
>>315557395 I should patch this and give it another go. How much have they added in the last 6-8 months?
>>315558386 >Didn't she also call out some other game [...] Yeah, GTA, SR & all those games, because you can kill female passersby to take their money (nevermind that you can do this to male passersby too, making her complaints about female combatants even funnier).
>>315523968 Have they kept her backstory? That she was the wife of a secret agent, captured and brainwashed (with implied rape), killed her husband in his sleep and then returned to her captors willingly to be their sex slave and assassin?
If they kept that, I don't mind losing her badonkadonk.
>>315560257 >I'd be surprised if Overwatch even has passable bots It doesn't. It's beta, I guess, but at the moement the point stands. >I should patch this and give it another go. How much have they added in the last 6-8 months? New maps, new fully textured maps, fully modeled weapons, more hats. Currently, halloween event is going on.
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