Alpha Gaiden, continued
Welcome to hell
So last time, we beat up Sanger until his brain rebooted, and busted into the Earth Cradle
And yeah, he's on our side now.
Man for a disaster proof base, your roof is really fucking flimsy
Also there's nothing here but robots and creepy tentacles
Well apparently everyone is dead. Whoops.
What, to nuke the final boss? I'll do it just for you anon.
So much for preserving humanity
Eh, it's missing the catgirls
WHAT IS A MAN?
For Jiron fighting the boss?
A MISERABLE PILE OF... proteins?
Now just because Zeon is a bunch of morons who can't get over themselves doesn't mean we're ALL a problem
TL;DR they're going to eliminate us because everything bad is our fault
Hyoma sums up my reaction nicely
In a game of smug assholes, these guys somehow take the cake
Shut up already, can we just get to the fighting?
After a nice round of "YEAH LET'S KICK THEIR ASS" from everyone, the Machinery Children finally notice Thrudgelmir in our midst
Huh, apparently Sanger killed Egret in this timeline
I smell some smiting in our future
I didn't HAVE to deploy Thrudgelmir, maybe they could've heard his intense silence over the radio from the ship. Or something.
THERE'S the line we've been waiting for!
Maybe if I was a boring person
Before we begin, let's take a look at our new toy. It's got the same stats as the boss version, complete with HP and EN Regen L
Sanger's stats are pretty nuts too, plus he's got Guts. Although the HP Regen keeps him from taking advantage of it much, it basically makes him invincible.
Oh so that's what changed, he lost 4 range off of his weapons. Ah well, that's hardly a big deal with 7 movement and a 1-5P attack.
@G isn't really that difficult.
Things like this stage and the Turn X are the exception not the rule.
I mean seriously next stage is so fucking easy it's ridiculous.
Like seriously Magus only casts Vigor for christs sake
Has there been a boss version of a character in SRW that never loses his stats after joining?
I know Master Asia didn't lose his stats in one of the GBA games did at least his health bar.
Looks like the custom Bergelmirs are a lot better than the MP ones though.
Turn X wasn't that big of a problem, I was expecting him to have a MAP Moonlight Butterfly, but nope. Hell I don't think he even gets it as an attack. The G-Bits stage was worse due to getting DOGPILED by grunts.
You're a bit slow.
The other one is slightly tankier but slightly less dodgy. Also EVERYTHING on the map starts at 150 will, so brace for Six Slaves spam.
Quite a few actually, especially in OG. For example, Mekiboss, Shu, and Axel STILL have their boss stats.
Oh, and so does Ratsel. Yuuki's stats are higher than most and he was a boss for most of OG2, but Seolla was in the same position and she still sucks so I dunno.
Anyways, time to fight fire with fire and get everyone's will up ASAP
I got everyone into position for Rouse spam, a few of the Bergelmirs move forward but most can hit us already since Six Slaves has 9 range.
By the way, here's what the Earth Cradle looks like. I can taste the second wave already.
A few Bergelmirs in the way back are guarding the Magus' core.
Well I'm assuming that's the core, since that's what it was in OG.
>Has there been a boss version of a character in SRW that never loses his stats after joining?
when you recruit bad guys in Impact they keep their HP
which means SHIT if they don't have regen. Looking at you Alfimi in Impact. 46k HP and no HP or EN regen
A shitton of Rouse casts later, pretty much everyone is at 120 will or higher, hopefully this will help
>and no HP or EN regen
Seriously? She's got Regen L for both in OG.
You do have to smile at how some situations like this basically amount to a street gang dragging down some big scary dude and tearing him apart. Your Gundams and small units would be the little guys kicking him in the head, and your Supers would be the beefy guys holding him down, while someone in the back is screaming "CURB HIM CURB STOMP THAT MOTHERFUCKER!"
Well time to kick some Bergelmir ass
Oh, and to make matters worse, all the Bergelmirs on this stage have Support Lv2. The Machinery Children have Support Lv4.
Huh, Sanger calls Thrudgelmir a Grungust now.
Well she dies in the stage you get her in OG2 GBA, unless you get the true ending stage, then she dies after that.
Impact hates you and everything you stand for.
He leaves for the CCA Finale and turns into a level 99 boss?
>Want this secret unit/parts?
You have to give up the skill point
>Want to make Dancouga a fucking monster?
You need to get it's HP to low levels, fight Sharpio and both people need to survive the fight. Also you lose the skill point.
>picked a specific stage last?
Guess what, you are on the Dunbine route split and lose out on getting Master Asia
>want the Rein Weiss?
You have to give up SHIN FUCKING GETTER (who is also a secret)
Isn't Shin Getter like three times the size of a Bergelmir?
Ouch, these things fucking hurt. I wish Banjo got Guard, or at least got Garrison, Beauty, and Reika as subpilots like that one stage.
Does Gato show up in the finale if you don't get him on your side?
Oh yeah, Riese and Rein Weiss have no combo
remember, shin getter is a secret and there is no indication that you did the prerequisite
>Does Gato show up in the finale if you don't get him on your side?
no idea. I AM NOT PLAYING IMPACT AGAIN! YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!
Time to get the Soliel the fuck out of here too, 12k HP isn't enough to survive all this shit for long if all the Bergelmirs decide to focus fire it
Super Robot Wars
I think the title is pretty self explanatory
Daitarn, as usual, becomes the main target. Thank god for Daitarn Fan blocking sometimes.
Ow guys, seriously, stop it
Well that's the first time I've ever seen Daitarn get shot down, in any SRW
Then again I managed to get Big O shot down once in Z2.2 so I guess anything can happen
Buuuuut since this is one of the older games, killing Daitarn just means that the Mach Attacker ejects.
This is just some random ass R-1 we dug up, it doesn't even have the transformation mechanisms. Even if the rest of the SRX Team was here.
Never. The SRX is not available in this game due to the Titans being dickbags at the start of the game. It exists in the leftover Alpha 1 code, but is buggy as fuck if you try and hack it in.
And it can actually dodge, sort of
As someone who has played through these exclusively in Japanese (skipping all dialogue) as an SRPG, it's hard to play a translated one and see how goofy the series is in general.
I mean really, isn't everyone playing these for the animations?
But how long can he keep up dodging when the Bergelmirs have a 55% chance to hit?
That's 3 in a row, that's a 84% chance that he SHOULD be dead right now
But the story is usually fun too. Besides Shin and Z3 anyways.
Welp, probability had to win eventually. I guess the AI doesn't fear the shine of the sun.
The last couple go for the Dendrobium, but he can take a few hits so whatever
>I mean really, isn't everyone playing these for the animations?
No. That's kind of dumb. I like Super Robo because it's a bizarre crossover of a whole lot of shit that I like. Honestly the highlight for me is seeing characters from different shows intereact with each other. If all one cared for was the animations, why even play? Youtube exists.
These guys aren't THAT dodgy, this is without Focus too
The SRX is in Shin SRW, Alpha 1, and kind of in Alpha 3.
We're on the last three stages of Alpha Gaiden here, we're definitely not getting the SRX this late.
While the bosses have Support Lv4, their defenders have six supports altogether, so in this case it's better to clear their defenders out first instead of just using our own support attacks to get around the defenders.
Because it's a light and fun SRPG that's a great introduction to some series.
When I played through Z1/Z2, I stopped for a bit to watch Code Geass so I was familiar with some of the scenarios, and even though I couldn't read it, I had a fair idea what was going on. That's good enough for me.
I will say sometimes something is lost though. The first one I played was SRW MX, and this was before I knew what anything was. Seeing Rom Stol take out Zeruel and save the Evas was so fucking cool.
Damn, Sanger can fucking dodge. No wonder they ended up making Dyngengar dodgier than most Supers.
The SRW rendition of Machine Robo's second opening is so much better than the actual song.
Must feel bad when you fail to hit a Grungust, even if you are a computer
Although even Irm's Grungust with max mobility in OG is pretty hard for anything to actually hit too
>Must feel bad when you fail to hit a Grungust, even if you are a computer
>Although even Irm's Grungust with max mobility in OG is pretty hard for anything to actually hit too
it's funny when your big guys dodge everything.
Like the Battle 7 in Alpha 3
For a minute it looks like Combattler is going to get the same treatment that Daitarn did, but the AI switches to other targets after like five attacks in a row. They seem to prioritize units that are too far away to counterattack.
That's a case of Max being coded for his eventual VF-22 and Banpresto not bothering to make a separate pilot data entry for him as the Battle 7's captain.
Still absolutely hilarious, though.
like seriously, someone has to finish Getter Robo āḥ with takuma story.
Time to get to work on this asshole
Or Valguard/Valzacard in general. Thank you extremely lazy bug checking.
I hope OG3 makes unit size actually matter in OG, and then give Kazuma Size Ignore as an exclusive skill.
Pssht, nothing personnel irregulars
At least he didn't cast Guard
Kou of course. Best non-Newtype pilot, and all of our good Newtype pilots are in things that actually NEED to dodge.
Oh come on, more spirits? Alert, Strike, Valor, Yell x2 even though he's already at 150 will.
At least he didn't cast Guts this time
You fucking what. I attacked him with Great Mazinger just to get rid of his Alert before next turn, and he spammed spirits again. This time He DID use Guts.
Well whatever, he's fucking dead next turn
TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT
He already did his 50% HP cast though, that was his first one. Unless he has two casts at 50%.
WELCOME TO LATE GAME ALPHA GAIDEN
ENJOY YOUR STAY
>He already did his 50% HP cast though, that was his first one. Unless he has two casts at 50%.
IIRC everyone in the earth cradle have one at 70%, 50% and 30%.
Magus has 2 at 30%
Let's just scoot over to Fa for some healing
That takes care of ONE boss
It's a little bit late to freak out now
Man, you guys were somehow more interesting when you were getting mad about being clones of Arado
Most of these "outdated" robots are fueled by power sources the OGs tend to ignore or underestimate, anyway.
You can bet Magus and the Machinery Children probably haven't done squat to figure out Getter Rays, Photon Energy, Electromagnetic power...whatever it is that fuels Raideen...
Next step is to clear out these guys in the middle, I guess
Or the untapped power of the mighty V8
Get some more repairs in too.
Yeah but that doesn't help much when anyone who dies either goes down in one hit or by getting slapped around from 100% to 0% during one enemy phase
Saving my supporter's SP for more important stuff than cash right now
That's the last of these fuckers, on to the boss
By the way, looks like there's a /v/ archive up again in case anyone missed the last thread.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/314327328/ Not sure how far it goes back, I'll have to check later and replace all the pastebin links that I can
>Saving my supporter's SP for more important stuff than cash right now
You're gonna have to make up for Daitarn's loss, though.
Doeasn't Omachi have Bless, though? Could've used that.
Managed to get Jiron knocked down into the Guts zone while attacking his defenders
She's also the only one in Brygar with Guard and Alert. Priorities man. I'd be losing a lot more stuff right now if I was trying to save SP for Bless instead of the other way around.
And Amuro is now our most powerful Newtype, Kamille and Uso are still at Lv6
There's more to this stage than this first part, I have no fucking clue what's coming next besides a particular boss. For all I know there's gonna be 50 more Bergelmirs to deal with next and I'm already running low on SP on a lot of my pilots.
Well here comes the first set of spirits, guess that anon earlier was right about 70%/50%/30%
Got him to just above 50% HP, let's see if we can at least skip one of his spirit casts.
I only lost Daitarn when he got absurdly focus fired by the AI, I could cast Bless with Fa but I'm just playing it safe in case she needs to give someone some more SP. And I don't want to blow through all of my Donkey Breads before the final stage either.
Yeah Fire Blaster + Stoner Sunshine looks like it did the trick. Not quite enough to get the kill though.
There's some more spirits, but still no Guts
He cast Alert, but we should be able to get rid of that with a Support Attack following up an attack to get him to waste that Alert
Oh you've got to be fucking kidding me
In this game Alert lets you dodge everything for a whole battle sequence apparently, so that means the Support Attack missed too
Welp here comes Guts and more spirits again.
This time I was the one who was out schemed.
Looks like I should've just knocked him below 50% but above 30%, then gotten rid of the Alert, THEN dumped Mazinkaiser and Shin Getter on him
Seriously? I guess I've never run into a situation where I've had to notice.
Back to square one
Which is what I was trying to do with Walker Gallia's Autocannons supported with a fucking Stoner Sunshine, but I guess that's 1 ammo and 90 EN down the drain
>I guess I've never run into a situation where I've had to notice.
Well that's because bosses tend not to use spirits and nobody really uses Alert outside of boss fights anyways.
And I told you about that 30% bro
I warned you dog
I split up my supers and had the guy with Alert do it.
Worked out for me.
He might be annoying but in the end he's just another chump
Another one bites the dust
Do I look like casual scum to you?
There's two dead Machinery Children. Now where's the third?
>Do I look like casual scum to you?
Throwing around everything you got like a madman without even stopping for a second to consider "wait, maybe it'll regen if I do this" makes you look like a bigger casual desu
Yeah yeah outdated blah blah blah
There's literally no way to avoid it at that point and I will live with my mistake instead of resetting and invalidating the challenge completely
By the way, I'm curious, why do you persist with the niggerspeak when it gets filtered anyways?
I used Luck this time, but Jiron has no way to use Gain so whatever
Oh hey those three Bergelmirs vanished
And then everything started shaking
Gee, didn't see that one coming
Or that. Found the last Machinery Child.
I'm pretty sure we've already met, but hi
Yeah okay I think we've heard this whole spiel before
I suggest you guys get comfy because even with me summarizing stuff a bit this is gonna take a while.
So after calling us shit for a while she introduces her Arugelmir. Aka "OG Never".
Okay seriously guys we met her like 30 stages ago, what are you even talking about?
At least we got confirmation that she's definitely Sophia, I guess
Magus pauses for a moment when it hears Sophia's name.
Probably didn't get into OG for the same reasons we got the R-Gun Rivale instead of You Know What in OG. Either that or blame OG2 GBA's writer, since it was a different guy than the rest of OG. He, completely coincidentally, wrote Z3 as well.
They made Axel way less of a cunt in OGs but I doubt they could just rewrite the entire Alpha Gaiden portion of the plot.
More talking about stuff we already know, but now it's time to hear about the "incident" that led to the Machine Cells taking over the cradle.
>By the way, I'm curious, why do you persist with the niggerspeak when it gets filtered anyways?
Oh, that's the fun part
I'm manually writing the filters, that way, nobody knows whether I'm running into the filters or I actually typed them
fuck this retarded captcha senpai
filled out like 300 of them to post
I wanna know how the hell anyone trusted Egrett in the first place, he looks evil as fuck.
Then again, Aya's "dad" turned out to be a decent guy, so I guess looks don't mean everything. But still.
Would've worked as BGM for the Rest in the Cradle stage, I guess.
Okay, that's funny.
If you think captcha is retarded now you should see what it does to me by the time I'm done posting 200 times in a row for these threads.
Apparently Sanger was unable to fight off all of the Dinosaurs with only AI controlled Huckebeins helping him out, so Egrett created the Machinery Children and used Sophia's Machine Cells to enhance the Earth Cradle's mechs.
I must've missed that thread then.
So far Laodecia, who was in Shin SRW and Alpha 1, has not appeared. And neither has Euzeth's Black Judecca but he had a new ride in OG anyways. OG2 GBA had it's own version of Impact's Axis Drop, which was one of my favorite stages in the series actually, but OGs removed it for some reason even though they left in OG1's fight with a big rock.
Oh wow, that's new. Apparently this version of Egrett even injected himself with Nanomachin- er Machine Cells.
I'd believe it, it does have a similar looking tail.
R's original plot (as in, how it played out in R).
Instead of "Tragic villain you feel bad for killing" like in R, Duminas is rewritten into "Generic non-humanoid villain #15684961 with no redeeming qualities and is in fact a puppet of Dark Brain" for OG.
Oh, an Excellence Gunner frame.
>DID SOMEBODY SAY MEGANOIDS?
Banjo would fucking lose it if he ever met Lemon or her W-Series.
Well it was a separate Duminas, considering all of SRW is apparently one huge clusterfuck of a multiverse (Gilliam, Cobray, Euzeth's memories, Kaworu's implications in every game with Eva, etc) this one probably spent less time questioning "Why do I exist?" and more time being an evil jackass.
Turns out Egrett's fatal mistake was injecting Sophia with Machine Cells?
Oh and speaking of unused things, they only used Lamia's version of A's plot, since the AP translation is apparently proceeding smoothly so far I might be able to show you Axel's version of things someday.
There's also an untranslated OG2 romhack that swaps Axel and Lamia.
More like they forgot the R guys existed until the last minute. And we got the best goddamn support unit ever as an apology.
>Banjo would fucking lose it if he ever met Lemon or her W-Series.
isn't he in A?
>Daily reminder Banpreto actually forgot the damn thing had several forms when OG2s was being made.
and they don't even have a Maxinum Break cut-in
>More like they forgot the R guys existed until the last minute.
>Okay guys we're almost done with OG2s
>What about the R guys
>And we got the best goddamn support unit ever as an apology.
Oh, so THAT'S why it was a mistake. Sanger cleaved the fuck out of Egrett for touching his waifu.
>isn't he in A?
Oh right, he is. Oh god.
Terada said in an interview they were a literal last minute addition since they weren't planned to be in the game at all, since they dismantled the Time Flow Engines at the end of OGG. They mention partway through 2ndOG though that "You know, disabling these things was probably a fucking stupid idea" so they'll likely be back. Especially since the Fury's time-freeze bullshit from J explicitly mentions "time particles", which the Time Flow Engines use to run.
>Especially since the Fury's time-freeze bullshit from J explicitly mentions "time particles", which the Time Flow Engines use to run.
and J was teased in DP "Why would Guneden attack a completely empty spot on the moon?"
The Magus then took over Sophia, forcibly brainwashed Sanger, and used him to pilot Thrudgelmir. Then Magus used Moonlight Butterfly 2.0 to wipe out the Dinosaurs.
After that, the war between the Moon Race and Earth happened and everything got fucked up even further.
Blah blah blah we will control the earth blah blah blah we're the only ones fit to rule it blah blah blah
>Especially since the Fury's time-freeze bullshit from J explicitly mentions "time particles", which the Time Flow Engines use to run.
I dunno, trying to remember J, don't they just extend the reach of the Orgone Canceller the OG mecha from J use? I doubt they'd rebuild R stuff for that sake when they can simply re-use that plot point.
And a tip to you too m'lady
Yeah but that doesn't help when the J mechs aren't present, or the first few times the Fury show up.
Loran makes a big long speech about how we've been keeping all the assholes in check this whole time, and if she's still going to murder a shitton of innocent people over that, then we're going to stop her
HOW IS FUCKING EVERYTHING OUR FAULT
Everyone tells her off again, but it just gets another predictable response
You tell 'em Jiron
And it's the Titans fault our plan didn't work, if everyone just did it WILLINGLY instead of them trying to strongarm everyone's mechs away as an excuse to take over the world after Project Aegis was over
Which would have still failed under the Titans by the way since about half of our Supers can only be used by their current pilots. Hell stealing the SRX would've just gotten everyone blown up since they'd be dumb enough to put some jobber in the R-2.
If you wanna kill anyone who's at fault, go back in time and kill Jamitov Hymen or something
At least some people here aren't nihilistic assholes, christ.
I mean seriously, the Magus and her cronies are the ONLY people left besides maybe Timp trying to start shit here. The fighting would already be over if it wasn't for your shit.
Finally some fucking explanations
>There's also an untranslated OG2 romhack that swaps Axel and Lamia.
It'll probably never happen but I really hope that get's translated one day because I really want that.
Plus some great shit happens in it from what I've seen, Like Arado saving Ouka by ripping out the cockpit from the Rapiecage with his Beetle Crusher.
>Plus some great shit happens in it
>I dunno what the fuck this is
>Put it in my mech, what could possibly go wrong?
TIME FUCKERY AHOOOOOY
Eh, it'd be possible if anyone ever wanted to.
>It was like 99% busted, but Machine Cells fixed it
So where's Coop and Jamie?
I caught some more reaction image fodder
Well that's VERY specific
>Isn't that OG only?
SO THIS IS ALL /YOUR/ FUCKING FAULT YOU ELECTRONIC WHORE
Thanks for saving me the two seconds of effort
That's also a good point, if time paradoxes here run on Back to the Future rules, wiping out all intelligent on Earth early will mean the Ancestors will erase themselves
Huh, turns out that thing behind her is a dimensional gate, not the Magus' core
But he doesn't have a Mr. Fusion
They really got a lot of use out of Banjo's VA in this game huh?
Yeah yeah blah blah blah pay for our sins
Sorry Sanger, but we need to murder your waifu now
Considering it's done on the same engine, the Xabungle units and Brygar had to cost more than like 75% of Alpha 1's units and combined
Bet you wish you had filled him with Machine Cells now huh?
Looks like the final Machinery Child is even tankier and less dodgy than Thurisaz
Oddly enough it's rifle is stronger than Six Slaves
Arugelmir is gonna be a fucking problem. Especially since we, of course, haven't gotten a SP restore. Only one stage in the middle of the game was nice enough to do that.
Buuuuut it's late as fuck and this is basically a whole third part of the stage so I'm gonna stop here, we'll see that surprise next time
As always, keep an eye on the pastebin for when next time will actually be. Might do it tomorrow or Saturday.