What was his fucking problem?
Alphys did everything wrong, and the things she tried to do right, her fucking machine outed her out as doing it for attention whoring and not because she wanted to be good for once. She's a massive fuck up.
And Sans is okay. His final fight tried to be too "Epic" and thus sucked, and his fans are obnoxious as hell.
His boss fight on genocide gives much more insight, he promised to not hurt humans. He also has insight into the fact that time is reset, so he knows its happening but can't control it.
His boss fight music is also GOAT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2jVbSI9H4o
I like Alphys because she comes off as this complete loser who couldn't hurt a fly, when in reality she's also an incredibly manipulative Mengele-tier scientist. she develops excellently.
Sans fight sucked. You just murdered everyone you came across and sans only tries to stop you long after you've killed his friends and family. He then proceeds to treat it as a joke and gets fucked up after pretending to fall asleep. He's lucky he's got the whole difficulty thing going for him, otherwise it would have been a really shitty ending to genocide.
I really liked snake in brawl, but now I kinda wish that he had never been included because now autists demand any and all characters, even if they have absolutely nothing to do with the Nintendo brand. What the fuck does undertale, or cave story, or shantae or shovel knight or whatever have to do with Nintendo?
I killed all the bosses my first run but I decided to spare him because I couldn't find any real reason to justify killing him. I woulda fucked up Alphys instead given the chance.
>/v/ says they hate game
>literally can't stop talking about it
Not even on their indie shop or whatever?
Actually never mind, toby said they don't accept game maker games since it's incompatible or whatever and he'd have to recode everything. And I'm sure they won't like the gay fish
Damn, I just realized his Starmen insignia
He's an agitating skeleton starman
The Bane fight was my favorite. It's a bit difficult to unlock, you have to get the hot dog in the vulkin's head and put it on your head.
I dunno. Would a average dude end up murdering everything or sparing everything? I don't think a average person is capable of murdering the dogs. Especially lesser and greater dog
This... this is a bit. This is a bit from someone's set. Someone's comedy set, or something, from ages ago. I can remember the shape, the outline of this. Years and years ago.
What the fuck is this from?
if they had toriel's introduction, i'm cautiously optimistic.
Undyne would probably end up killing most, if not all of them.
I don't think any sane person would have it in them to kill Papyrus, I can't think of anything he's ever done that would deserve death.
Can someone explain to me what OFF is about? The most I got is that it involves a baby somehow and the batter is trying to kill it the whole time. What exactly does the batter stand for and why is he evil in the end? What about the cat? What does he represent? I know the game is chock full of symbolism but I really want to know what the most basic message is that's being conveyed in it.
If the monsters started fighting the humans again, would they even stand a chance? A single ordinary kid has the potential to wipe them all off the face of the Earth, if the kid wanted to.
they would be stomped, unless one of them has it on him to merge a human soul with his own and bla bla bla...
Even then, said monster would be hardly considered either a human or a monster at that point.
does literally anyone actually fear skeletons at this point?
they'd think someone was playing a joke on them, and even when they realized he was an actual skeleton, basic human instinct is to run, not fight.
He's completely nonthreatening.
Any drawfags around able to make this Undertale related, or just crop some sprites and put it on the nigger's face i don't care.
Think of a human with a childlike appearance from another series.
They have just taken Frisk's place in the underground, what run do they make, and what monsters do they kill, if it's not genocide or pacifist?
>there are people that would prefer Shovlel Knight in smash over Quote
It's fine to want him in Smash, but another thing entirely to pretend he deserves to be. Or for that matter, that he has a chance. Keep those thoughts in check and no one will have reason to hate you for being the worst the fanbase has to offer.
Why do you think it can't get an eShop release?
Look at Cave Story and La Mulana.
>be human king
>someone guy tells you that monsters can become god like if they kill humans
>instead of trying to talk to the monster king, you go full on genocide and try to kill them all until a wizard suggests locking them up in a mountain
humans are fucking crazy
He'd complete pacifist run on the first dialogue with Flowey
Chara is even more of a concept than the batter, in the sense that she's part of Frisk's character whereas the batter is a character on himself. What they both represent is not quite the same eveven if their ways have literally the same effect.
The same question but simplified would be 'do you think someone negligent is worse or better than someone willing to do evil'?
I was thinking of the girl concept art of Abel. She'd probably beat the shit out of everyone but refuse to kill them.
Well if you put it that way it'd make sense for the human king to genocide the monsters off the bat so nothing like Flowey could happen. I mean look what at Alphys did when monsters are left to their own devices
Hey! You want to tell you the time?
Flowey happened because he has no soul but he has determination, and it's not like Alphys knew that the test subjects would just start melting and merging together, or that she created a genocidal flower
Post characters who would ruin the game if they were the main character.
She seals/knocks everyone out with danmaku, teleports to the other side of the barrier, and strengthens the barrier extra hard.
Then she may or may not stay in the underground to maintain order and protect humans who fall down.
He was a homicidal robot with draconian forms of entertainment, whom you don't find out has a good side until much later IIRC. Meanwhile everybody else had their good sides obvious much sooner.
I was honestly expecting to see him get blown up until his humanoid form showed up.
Easy. Just like how Villager fights by doing shit like setting off fireworks, poking the ground with the stick and dropping a plant. Like he could have a stick throwing projectile.
Something about how Monsters become exponentially more powerful when they get the power of a human soul
The seven souls were what was needed to get rid of the barrier, not what was needed to kill all the humans
>tfw keked by a fat weebasaurus
Fuck you Alphys, you failure. I want to fuck the fish.
>You felt your sins crawling on your back
Considering that just his empty husk of a body can destroy giant robots and massive city-destroying creatures I'd say he'd wreck the shit out of everyone pretty much.
Especially if it were to save Yonah.
Probably a pacifist run.
>rezzing Asriel from the dead
>Seems saving the game really is impossible.
>Maybe, with what little power you have...
>You can SAVE something else.
Do you think a Very Good Courier could do a pacifist run?
I wonder what Flowey would think of Porky.
Who's the bigger asshole, though?
Genocide without a doubt, for that high score
I guess when you think of it long enough.
Yeah, it's sort of a meme game.
Personally I'd like a challenge in my games. Like difficulty settings and unpredictable shit.
I know its a bullet hell game. So shit goes in patterns and shit, but fuck that, give me some unfairness geez.
The monsters in Nier actually kill people en masse, though. He might not spare Asgore or Undyne, but I doubt he'd go on a rampage when most of the enemies in Undertale are pretty harmless and can speak.
I wonder how much LOVE Caim would have?
How would the Chosen Undead fare as the main character? How would having a Lord Soul or all of them, affect things?
They're the only character that ever has
Just stop. It can be ugly, stupid, boring, unfunny, or whatever, but saying Undertale is pretentious is just admitting you are too stupid to understand its simple story.
Assuming the chosen undead as a mute neutral guy...
>flowey's pellets ricochet off his soul, flowey proceeds to haul ass
>toriel is intimidated, still takes undead on a tour of the ruins. Gives up on stopping CU from going outside
>lesser monsters can't do jack squat, get ignored
>meet papyrus and sans. Gestures for days
>meets monster kid, who becomes a fan of CU because he's a badass looki knight
>undyne gets her shit kicked in big time for provoking the bloke
>alphys nowhere to be seen, too scared
>metatton still the same
>asgore is serious about killing him. Gets dunked
>omega flowey can't save nor load, quite probably still not as determined as CU
>walks back home through the portal with asgore's soul
You left out
>Dies once or thrice from Undyne
>Keeps comming back literally minutes later
>Does the same thing for Asgore
>A second after he's been killed, the exact same guy runs through the door
>tfw the top three tracks in the game are Mettaton's battle themes
I just picked this game up and I'm doing a genocide run for my first playthrough. I was told if you call the goat lady mom and flirt with her two times something happens later in the story. I just killed Papyrus yet I have not seen any significant change or seen something wierd happen in the story yet.
I'd say most people would run from monsters because they are fucking monsters. Some would kill.
It all depends of if they meet Toriel or not.
If not then all they know is every thing the meet wants to kill them
>not killing Toriel
Are you having fun?
>if you're serious about being friends, you won't come back.
does anything change if I just quit at this point and do another playthrough? I wanna finish the sans fight but quitting seems like it has the potential to be far more
>played the undertale demo when it got released, played it all the way through right when it came out before it turned into another godawful meme factory
>memories are pristine, not ruined by a bunch of manchildren mumbling about having sex with imaginary goats
>safely browse through undermeme threads without reading or caring just to save spaghetti and badtime pics
I'm literally killing everything that challenges me. I accidentally skipped over the town not knowing I was headed into a boss encounter. Hopefully I can go back and fuck this up to make the story more interesting.
>undying can lift boulders
>still can get killed by a little kid
Pretty sure humans in the under tail universe aren't really human, but saiyan or something.
Can the monsters handle somebody CURAYZEH? Is Determination the same as Motivation?
>draw a monster soul, shove it in flowey, throw goat child at goat mom
>bring them to asgore
>draw a human soul and break the barrier
>walk the fuck out and draw a warpstar to take her back home
>wonder on the way back how she stumbled into a mountain over several lightyears away and several centuries in the past
Megalovania was my favorite song, but now that I beat Sans after like 40 tries I can hardly stand it.
It was a great fight though, I was tempted to do it 3 times to piss him off. But that second phase is too rough, and I swear I lost most of my health just trying to dodge the bones in the battle menu
Are Papyrus's non skull-bones black, or is his costume covered in black cloth under the armor?
Or does he just have regular bones that appear black in-game do to """limitations"""
It's pretty boring and grindy too.
No charm, no fun characters and interactions. Just reminders that you are ruining everything
It's meant to mostly not be fun, save for two fun bosses.
I can't do it. Sure, it gets them to show sides of themselves you couldn't previously see. But you come to realize they're just trying to cope, or worse, trying to make you a better person.
The only monster is you.
I felt bad when killing main characters, but didn't feel anything for the random monsters until tsundere plane.
The others just fade away, but fuck her death animation really hit me hard.
Considering his battle portrait, I think that his bones are white and just appear black outside of battle due to a low-res sprite.
I'm more concerned that he's basically walking around in a crop top and underwear.
The underground is fucked harder than they could ever imagine.
>Watch a play through
>They meet the skeletons
"Why are there skeletons? Are they humans? What does it mean?!"
They are fucking generic skeleton monsters. Just like everything else, they were born skeletons dammit!
What the fuck did Toriel do that made her deserve to die? She was just trying to protect you. If you pay ar she'll never actually kill you unless you run straight into her attack
>Wife died hating him
>His people are mercilessly slaughtered
>Best warriors killed
>Both his children are souless husks that want to kill him
>Didn't even have a fighting chance
Asgore... Asgore had a hard life
>There will never be a hard mode where he actually absorbs the souls before you get to him
You have to kill a specific amount of monsters in each area. You'll stop getting random encounters (they'll say "but no one came") and the music changes. After doing it correctly in the ruins, every save point gives you a kill counter. It's easy to fuck up if you don't know what you're doing, since for the most part doing a boss fight too early will fuck up the run.
If you're set on doing a genocide run you should do a neutral run first, since your shit in boxes will carry over iirc.
I believe Shantae and Cave Story have a pretty long history with Nintendo, Shantae more so.
Shovel Knight is based on classic Nintendo games and apparently Yacht Club and Nintendo have a pretty decent relationship with them.
Shovel Knight and Shantae are also crazy popular which bumps them up quite a bit.
Undertale takes many inspiration from Mother and is also very popular. If it was on Nintendo systems I would say it would be in the same position Shovel Knight is in. The thing is Undertale doesn't really have a "Main" character like Shovel Knight besides Frisk who can be a full on pacifist if you so choose so he wouldn't really be suited for Smash. So that leaves fans to argue about which character should rep it which would lead into a bunch of problems in the ballot.
SO I beat the game on true pacifist
I basically can't play the game anymore without feeling bad now though. Feel like such a fag for even feeling bad but fuck.
Should I just fuck it and let my true Chara come out?
Who's to say that the soul given to flowey is 'his' soul? You might just fuck up and create another abomination. Or some kid who just looks like a goat but has the personality of tsunderplane or some shit
>watch the rest on YouTube
How much of a coward do you have to be?
They also imply that you have the power to kill every human aswell, not just every monster.
And if Flowey didn't destroy Asgores soul you would have become a god after killing him
By flowey's logic, one extra determined human overwrites all others' save powers. It's there n everyone, just bottled away because of someone determined as all hell
But then arn't I a coward? I accidentally spoiled myself on the shit that flowey says before I bought the game
actually wouldn't the game know I 99% it? it seems to know everything else
I think Sans is cool and all, but he is LITERALLY "intelligent, nihilistic, and with a wicked sense of humor" and attracts the same people who like to define themselves as such.
There are game companies that specialize in porting games, for example when hotline miami was ported to consoles instead of rewriting the game maker code from scratch they used a parser to convert the GML to c++ and do a port that way.
It's perfectly doable, just hard to do but the specialized companies already have the tools to do it
When you're a defunct Starman, you inevitably run into some identity problems.
Seriously, check out his chest.
He doesn't do anything and finds no meaning in life because he knows that the resets are occurring and knows he can't fight them.
He only gets off his ass and does anything when you do a genocide run.
Beavis and Butthead have their own personalities. Frisk is basically a blank slate, a LEGO brick for you to project yourself on to.
It would change the game entirely, and lose much of itself in the process.
I was never into spider girls until I encountered Muffet
Is undermeme actually good? I'd like something to tide me over for a week
Sans: "*do you guys have a BONE to pick with us?"
oooh yeah. uhh huhuhuhuh he means his wiener.
oooh yeah, heh, heheh, hee hm heh
heh, heheh, hee hm heh
heh, heheh, hee hm heh
NYEH HEH HEH HEH
heh, heheh, hee hm heh
NYEH HEH HEH HEH
heh, heheh, hee hm heh
sans slams the 3 of them around the room
ehhh... that was cool
yeah, heh heh hmm heh
INDEED, NYEH HEH
yfw Hopes and Dreams
It'll take you a few hours each to complete every run
I'd like to get at her tuffet if you catch my drift
It can be completed in one or two sittings. So it's not gonna occupy you for that long. But nevertheless it's a pretty good game. I suggest playing the demo before deciding if you want to buy it
I don't get Sans + Toriel shipping, I mean I know the whole fucking door thing but I don't think that's enough, it really gets my goat.
I like their interactions though.
The Batter genuinely believes he's doing the right thing, he's not malicious about it.
His monstrous form in the Judge end is how The Judge and the player now perceive him, a monster, this was confirmed by Mortis.
Goat parents is the best ship anyway
>tfw I told Toriel I had places to be, people to see
Not that guy but that's what I did because I did the Sans fight like, 100 times and I just couldn't git gud. I had a bad time and just had to watch the ending.
I'll probably try again later but I was just getting too angry over it.
Papyrus isn't gay, he just has standards.
I saw it more as monsters are portrayed as loving people, not genders.
I mean everything about the monsters seem to indicate that a good 99% of them are genuinely good people, they just look like monsters.
As someone who likes this game a lot, it still kind of amazes me that some people are ranking it as their personal GoTY. It's weird seeing an indie game like Undertale mentioned and being compared with AAA titles.
I think I misread Undyne's dialogue when she talks about alphys in her house. Something about eating grapes on a piano.
Would you eat her pie?
I-I-I mean that in a nonsexual manner! Pervs!
Frisk is best girl
or boy, it doesn't really matter
I've only played the demo
and completely spoiled myself on the full gamebut I think what the appeal of the game is that the plot follows the character's actions, as opposed to the character's actions following the plot. If you play as a good kid, the game is about friendship and stuff, but if you act nasty and kill everyone, the game gets really dark.
Cause certain AAA titles shit the bed this year and UT scratched an itch lots of people were begging for. But yeah it's pretty bizarre. Pretty cool too though.
That was about sexy old mettaton
he can be girly
That sucks that you spoiled yourslef, you can still go try the game from the mega dude
Why not wish for a PC gaming fighter, featuring all of your favourite memes like Gordon Freeman (HL3 never ever x] ), Duke Nukem (DNF did not finish x] ), Halo's dad (Doom 4's movement speed x] ), Commander Keen, and Saxton Hale?
>I really liked snake in brawl
>What the fuck does undertale, or cave story, or shantae or shovel knight or whatever have to do with Nintendo?
About as much as Metal Gear does.
>MG1 is literally a PC to console port disowned by Kojima
>SR is an American only non canon sequel