God damn it. She was so perfect. Why change it?
EAT SHIT PEACOCKS
ENJOY WAITING ON THOSE PS4 SCRAPS
>pc isnt up
this is cause of the leaks isnt it ono
who is playable this time?
The Japs might actually like her enough to draw her now.
>like using R. Mika
>her hair is constantly resetting/flopping around at the start of the round
>that awkward winpose
>Actually thinking Karin's old face looked good
Nah bro, it was fucking Cammy syndrome all over again. Looked fine at some angles and lighting, looked completely fucking awful in others. At least with this new face she may look more consistent.
Besides, maybe they'll touch her face up again, this is fucking Chun Li's 3rd facial remodeling.
>I'll show you the divide in our class.
>post 9/11 based Kah-rin
>spin you like a record and heart punch you
>just kidding I was a sweet-faced angel all the time
yeah no, she's supposed to be bitchy
That is what you think a bitch is? Have you gone out of your hole and met people irl and not just hibernated in your cave? She's just an Ojou character.
I'm with >>315604856. You're clinically retarded, and retards are actually notorious for misreading social cues like that and assuming that someone is being malicious or bitchy when the behavior is merely trivial and impersonal.
>poorly though out
You were saying?
Tfw Cammy ended up with the prettiest face in the game
>She's just an Ojou character.
She's more than just an Ojou-sama. And no, I never took a class in college about social structures like you. You communist faggot.
I would call this a typo, but the fact you tried to call someone out on not thinking shit out, while not doing the same, is so ironic that I could taste it.
>You communist faggot.
Oh, so not only are you clinically retarded but you're a /pol/fag as well. Instead of thinking it's just theory from college, how about actually getting a job where you deal with other people on a daily basis and meet shitty mexican women who think they're in charge of things?
that color scheme is just like adventure time, with the green backpack and all, and both Fiona and Cammy love cats
>two anons arguing
>don't realize they're both faggots
Just kiss and make up already, you flaming cocksuckers.
man dudley is a bitch
he span my character around with one of his finishers and called me gutter trash
but then pretended to be all nice and decent and gentleman like by tossing his rose TEEHEE HERES A ROSE OL CHAP, TRISCUITS AND TROUSERS!!
You are this mad.
Also he doesn't trash talk until after the fight, unlike karin who trash talks all fight every fight before and after the fight while her butler chases her puppy.
I liked the older looking cammy
the "new" cammy makes no fucking sense
did she age backwards, is she benjamin button?
you "pure waifu" fags really need to hurry up and off yourselves already. You're poisoning the earth with your awful taste.
what do you think akuma did to her?
I will miss karin puffy cheeks, but her new face looks fine.
Chun tho... what the fuck they done with her face?
ps4. I have it on steam too and got into the beta there no problem back in october, but on PS store I find no option to download and trying to enroll on streatfighter.com doesnt work because they just say it's closed. Region is yurope
new beta is up on ps4, you must reinstall everything if you want to install, laura is in this version
tomorrow will have a stress test, i'm going to assume you can install the update from the in game patcher without reinstalling everything
Congrats, this is quite possibly the shittiest SF thread I've ever seen.
>chun li isn't supposed to look like a white girl
she doesn't, she looks like a japanese idol
if she looked white her eyes would be completely different and her face more squared
the sign up on the website is just a chance at getting a key
to actually have a 100% chance of getting into the beta, you need to pre-order the game either on Steam or at certain retailers for PS4.
>she looks like a japanese idol
dude you've deluded yourself off this planet
>narrow angular nose
>skinny face with no cheak bones
>giant round eyes set high on her face
>skinny lips that don't puff forward at all
She literally could not be any more Caucasian.
she does though. Hell even the american characters like Ken look japanese for some reason.
The problem is Chun should have stayed looking like an older chinese woman but the japs couldn't have that for some reason. Pisses me off.
Shame you can't distinguish asian features of white ones.
She doesn't look white at all. This is the stereotypical dumbass who thinks anime characters look white.
Ono should just give the entire roster the same androgynous face and region-lock that version to Japan only.
I honestly don't need my fighting game characters to have "ideal" faces. If anything I'd prefer little imperfections that convey their personality as experienced fighters.
Not fresh-faced highschoolers. We've already had that shit dozens of times.
>mfw finnish and nobody remembers we exist
Not all white people have heavy features.
All I can do is play this awful tutorial with alpha ryu/ken after that when attempts to connect it says there a new update on the sever and that I need to update and restart which I already did but it does nothing.
same face shape
eyes high set
eyes big and round
zooey has a rounder nose and puffier lips though, go figure. Gooks usually have whites beat in that department.
SHUT UP GOY
ONLY MIXED RACE GOYS LOOK GOOD
HURRY UP AND BECOME CULTURALLY ENRICHED ALREADY
I used photoshop to hide her bangs
>oy wat u lookin at ye cheeky cunt
>i swear on me mum I'll besh yor fackin 'ead in
Every character is good for beginners.
Every character has totally different strengths and weaknesses. So you might as well start clocking in time on characters you like.
My whole life I've only used Charge characters and Makoto. I never touched shotos and I was 9-0 undefeated at a local tournament.
Juri's fundamentals are easy, but her Tanden Engine Super requires a LOT of skill to take advantage of. It doesn't uniformly buff her moveset, you have to learn its limitations to really capitalize off it.
So now that we know who these characters are, has there been any renderings of what they will look like in full?
that just made me even happier
that last one
I'll take your fucking balls if you're lying
i thought he was already confirmed beforehand though
if that actually was a ruse then fuck you
Compare U1, the additional knowledge that you need to make use of those chains, to U2, which is like the majority of ultras, an invincible move that deals a ton of damage and juggles. Figuring out what you can do with U1 takes much more work, it's overwhelming for a beginner. I wouldn't say it takes a ton of skill, but it's certainly a lot for a beginner.
shit is broken for me, it wont pick the character I want to play, I was trainning with Laura vs Rashid it found a game but for some reason I was Rashid so the next time I tried Laura mirror and the game gave me Karin once it found a game, what the actual fuck.
I'd say Sodom has a higher chance of making it than he does, but I think all SF2 characters ended up in SF4 so I'd say it's possible. There really isn't a demand for him though.
>people still picking Karin only
wew. She is really fucking strong though. There would be no reason to pick anyone else if this wasn't a beta.
Go home Suomi, nobody gives a fuck even if you make a post about it.
Before and after. I just want Chun-li to be a Christmas cake beauty. Shit taste nipjaps.
The bottom one looks way better. What the fuck are you talking about? the top one looks like she's made of putty.
Who here RYUBOYZ?
Which DLC characters you guys looking at?
There will probably never be a skirtless pantyhose Karin version...
I for one would welcome Rugal to Street Fighter.
Ryu has been nerfed so hard, it's not even funny. Nothing combos anymore and damage / stun have been reduced as well. Not even basic shit like anti-air DP into EX fireball works in the most recent update.
>ryu doesn't have his donkey kick
i know they want to keep him classic but they really need to add something to make him more interesting. along with his nerfs, i felt like he was pretty weak in beta 2.
Yeah it's pretty terrible.
I'm hoping that Capcom is going extreme in the balance department in an attempt to find out what levels of ridiculousness work for the characters.
Looking at the Sim build Vega nerfs I think that is quite possible.
so that new menu theme is pretty banging
anyone else feel that the soundtrack is a bit inconsistent? not really digging a lot of the technoshit feel that a lot of songs still have (in particular Bison's theme is pretty shit)
R.meme players are too stupid to be a threat, but everyone and their mother is going to jump on Karin. Karin would be more popular than Vanilla Sagat if they kept the balancing as is.
Forgotten Waterfall is best stage theme.
And I dunno, the only Ryu theme I can get behind is MVC3 and ST.
Necalli and Cammy have fucking god tier themes though.
I hate this change. She had such a refined face before, now it's much flatter and less distinguished face. And I'm saying this as someone who hates the irish Cammy look in this game.
The HD remix songs are all pretty great actually.
Donkey kick was a cool move, sent the opponent out of your face and could cause juggle on EX for sick combos.
It was also a little bit of flavour to make Ryu more different from Ken.
>PKeks datamine the beta and leak stuff that was supposed to stay hidden
>beta live for PS4 exclusively now
More like PC MASTER REKT.
THIS GOTTA BE A FUCKING JOKE.
I'M SERIOUSLY MAD RIGHT NOW.
CHUN-LI IS THE CHARACTER I FAVOR THE MOST IN ANY GAME AND TO LOOK AT THIS WHEN THEY NAILED HER FACE.
Yeah, I felt she was perfection when I saw her in the character select screen for the first time. Fucking japs.
OH MY GOOOOOOOD
JAPAN STOP IMPOSING YOUR PEDOPHILIC TASTES.
cammy toppest tier waifu still nothing new I see.
This. You fuckers have all the wrong priorities.
No seriously, people who actually play this game discuss tech, strategies and recent changes, and all you morons do is shit the place up with LOOKIT CHUNS THIGHS HNNGH. How do you even function in life?
Get laid, for crying out loud.
I was already mad about Chun-Li being the lowest of all in the roster, but what do you want to do against it?
This is devs fucking up the game.
The aesthetics are fucked up because of the player base.
No, it was completely retarded, she has no need or reason to have double fireballs at all, she's not a fucking fireball character, she's based around her normals and smart footsies.
How do you play online? Oh wait.
C U C K E D
Even with higher recovery it would still be good without being too crazy like the video and it would throw more variation into the game
Plus like every character they've released since the alpha have ez moves to negate fireballs anyway
500pp kill yourself
I am actually not feeling her right now, her normals arent great apart from mk and hp, her 'fireball' is worthless unless in v trigger and even then its barely good, the only thing going for her is her safe elbow dash and her v skill command dash.
Man you sure love the 500pp insult.
Go back to sniffposting in /fgg/ and jerking off to the thought of PISSS railing you from behind faggot.
Fuck if you want a genuine complaint how about her not having stomps followup or losing the lightning legs juggle?
Sick dodge 500pp/4k bp Chun-li waifufag who doesn't know anything other than mashing sweep
I know it's you, Stinker. Stop using the same images and insults.
Not even the guy you were talking to, by the way. You're just an annoyance to anyone with eyes and a functioning brain.
>Go back to sniffposting in /fgg/ and jerking off to the thought of PISSS railing you from behind faggot.
I hope their modelers get paid extra for all the face tweaking.
I'm pretty sure I don't own a PS4 and also live in Australia.
>Australia shitposter who doesn't play with anyone because he lives in a backwater country with no players posting in a fighting game thread when he only plays Kangaroo Fighter 2016
kys my man
That's funny coming from someone who doesn't even play fighting games
See me right now
inb4 "i live in australia" "i don't own the game" i don't have a pc" "my mom is on netflix" "i broke my hand" "i don't have a ps4" "i have to hunt some koalas for dinner" "my boyfriend is about to fuck me" "i have down's syndrome and can't play"
>/fgg/ has trouble with chun li
lol git gud, you can just yolo mash and beat most chuns, if anything she needs more buffs
You have to remember that this place mostly consists of ugly delusional white people, so obviously they try their hardest to think that they're actually handsome ubermenschs.
I bet it's the same with 2chan.
Her win screen changed, see >>315603327
What an uneventful webm. Did you make it yourself and you're now fishing for a compliment, anon?
Both players are ass.
Learn how to read retard, a character can be braindead and still suck because their braindead button sucks. Look at USFIV where Bison isn't that good but he's still the most braindead character in the game
The game is pretty much all neutral since invincibility is nerfed to hell and oki is pretty much nonexistent.
I mean you can say that the neutral is boring or whatever but the fact is that the game IS focused on that.
>guy talks shit to some other guy
>gets increasingly annoying
>decide to take the piss out of him
>challenges me to a match
>ask him to post ID
Another day, another dodge. Always the same with you loudmouths.
so sf5 character renders are slowly turning back towards 4 and ryu is basically a cut and paste from omega mixed with 3rd strike, i like it.
>mika and karin
A grappler whose pokes don't combo and a footsies heavy character that has to risk using unsafe moves to get in?
These are the characters you two are mad about?
Git gud. Space out Mika like you would any other grappler. Wait for Karin to use her slow telegraphed overhead to get in and punish. Stop whining.
Autofootsies is a term used by lowtiergod, /fgg/ uses a lot of his twitch terms and slang. Started ironic then became real, since they lose a lot and need to manifest it in some word/scapegoat
they have the most embarrassing lingo
You can poke shitters to death with c.LK c.MK and f.MK, but anyone competent isn't going to fall for that shit.
If the opponent isn't in s.lk or s.mp range Mika's got nothing worth using unless her opponent is just mashing buttons
Are c.lk, c.mk, and f.mk, and none of them combo or link into anything
She doesn't. She has tools to fuck you up once she's in, but just like any other grappler she has to work to do that. Well, unless her opponent is an idiot who charges her instead of putting up a defensive wall. If you can't deal with blocking f.mk and punishing jump ins you may want to pick a different game.
You can buffer L Bootybutt after short and jab. They are short but okay. Forward is really good as is the advancing version. Charged roundhouse is/was absurd.
This is also what Capcom must have felt because news fresh out of the Dhalsim build is that Mika's charged dropkick doesn't pull her back as far during its charge, she can't link strong after it, and her Irish Whip wasn't as useful to just throw out like a poke.
post your most fraudulent scrubby moments in these trying times
Mika's ranged "tools" are:
c.lk - good for hitting button mashers and the end of some blockstrings, not much else
c.mk - see c.lk
f.mk - good for getting over sweeps, decent meaty if you're too far for s.lk or s.mp
s.hk - only safe on charge, charge is long and obvious, can be poked/jabbed out of active frames
Peach - totally unsafe
Wingless - totally unsafe
V-trigger - Locks down a smart opponent for a moment but using it to get in like this sacrifices damage and you still have to win a guessing game once they block nadeshiko
Tell me, anon, which of these tools makes it oh so easy to get in?
Wingless ain't even all that unsafe amigo. It is a viable option to try to guess a fireball throw and land near them around equal frames. Way better than Hugo ever had. Unless that's been changed.
Flying Peach is completely unsafe on block, a free combo for your opponent.
Charged roundhouse mika can be jabbed out of.
>Throw it out like a poke
It's also massively unsafe on block and will get your opponent a free combo
What in the fuck are you shitters even talking about
Are you retarded? Can you not follow a simple thread of responses?
back in ae 2012 when I started
Irish is only massively whiffed if you press strong a second time and they were blocking. And you buffer peach behind a jab/short chain meaning that you input it so that if it hits/snuffs the ass comes out and if you whiff it doesn't. You know what negative edge is right?
Those changes are real too. So it doesn't matter how butthurt you are.
They need to open up training mode on the beta so we can continue "testing" it while the servers are turned off.
>120th Oni on Steam and still more sense than this guy
I could have beaten you easily. The guy had the right idea when he backed off after the reset instead of pressing the attack - he would have caught another uppercut, and yet he went for the crossup that isn't a true blockstring.
Irish Whip is f/b+mp or t/b strong. And you not understanding walking forward and buffering a special move behind a button in foozies is either you being obtuse or just being an ignorant shit.
That's actually pretty cool.
Made excellent use of the fact that almost any of Oni's moves is super cancelable on hit or block. That he bypassed the EX fireball was pure chance though.
>a good footsie
>a way to get in with Mika
Full retard, anon.
Keep crying about being unable to zone out a character with no decent way in, maybe if you get stomped enough you'll figure out how to neutral jump.
>I could have beaten you easily
probably. many do.
He wasn't bad tho, that was just the last round after I'd figured him out early a tiny bit and he got frustrated and reckless as hell. His punishes were crazy in other matches, beating him was lucky shit
Add me and I'll fight you later today if you want
I played Mika during the beta, home-slice. If you walk up on a Karin or a Vega and you aren't slipping out a slick jab with a negative edged L ButtCHEEKS behind it you aren't using your full movelist.
But hey, I'm sure you knew that. You just like to shitpost to pass the time.
If you can walk into the range where a jab from mika will beat out their fantastic pokes instead of whiffing or trading (a losing trade for mika) then that opponent is shwarbage.
Mika has really good normal antiairs too. cr forward for long range and cr strong for close.
The reset even makes for mixup.
Wingless even gets the buff from her smack talk VSkill.
There's a spot for every normal. Mika's jab isn't even a bad one either. It's short but has a good hitbox. If Vega or Karin are just pressing roundhouse or Buster Claw, you'll get around them other ways that hurt way harder. The edge of Mika's jab is not an uncommon range. She fully extends her arm, anon.
Capcom isn't that clever. Everyone of their grapplers has amazing jabs. That's one of the first things they seem to give them.
>complain about s.hk and for some retarded reason lp peach
>hurr I can't neutral jump in reaction to those somehow Mika will cancel them back into neutral and AA me!
>I'd never neutral jump against a grappler, I want to eat tick throws all day!
/v/ is terrible at fighting games.
Grapplers need amazing jabs, that's the whole fucking point of a grappler: to be really amazing at close range.
If Mika's s.lk and s.lp weren't amazing she'd have a bitch of a time getting off tick throws or s.lk s.mp peach
They're not tools for getting in, they're tools for locking down an opponent once you already are.
If an opponent has let you get close enough to jab they already fucked up.
Only on PS4 and only on Friday, it seems.
Kinda unrelated, but can you start consulting the official channels before asking stupid questions? Not even trying to be mean or anything, but there's at least a dozen of you guys popping up in each thread. Run it through Google, man.
Whoa pal. I was the anon talking about L Peach. Because I played Mika I found a use for L FaceSitting. Try and keep up. I'm trying to preach to other Mika's the Church of L Peach. There's a reason the only thing it seems to be usable for is landing after a light.
Think about how long a grappler jab is. It's always a chop or them poking you with finger tips. Have you ever played as Zangief or Hawk? Maybe Oil focused and punished a poke with cr jab > slide? Mika isn't all that different. You walk in and out of your opponent's range and sometimes jab into L Brown Eye a good option to snuff/whiff punish.
For you guy that already played the new build, how is necalli ?
4th color a best desu
I used Hawk all the time in Super and Ultra. I'd use his unique lp chop or a standing/crouching jab to tick throw or confirm into tomahawk buster, but if I'm in that range already I know my opponent has fucked up and I'm going to get some big damage. A smart opponent vs Hawk or Gief knows to stay at a good range and use very long pokes or ranged moves to force me to try to be aggressive and react accordingly. Against good players as Hawk my best poke was always s.HK for its range and damage.
Grapplers in SF all work on the same basic principle: their pokes don't lead into much, they have to work to get into jab range, but once they're in jab range they're going to fuck you sideways.
So I figured out that you can use super right in the middle of cammy's dp
how the fuck do I get that timing right, I can semi-reliably get it while mashing, but I don't want to rely on that
Yeah, that's actually really knowledgeable. He has a good jab though and even the wackos like KOG through it out and the end of their ranges to snuff other buttons. Zangief gets in with jab/short buffered into green hand. Since we're on the same page, if she's test playable sometime soon and you remember it just play around with some of her lights into butt and you might see that it is an option for neutral. But yeah, it isn't the key to every matchup or anything. Just noteworthy. I've always played Zangief do some degree so her lights were the first things I tried to feel out.
I'll give it a shot, anon, but if the previous beta is anything to go by everyone excepting people in the 3-digit range are going to be going fucking crazy with buttons and jumps so I probably won't get much neutral play in.
Shit, that reminds me, I really need to work on my AA with Mika. I always waffle between c.mp and wingless and by the time I pick one I'm blocking the jump in
Vega's antiair game was nuts: HK, Claw HP, both c.hps. And H Aurora could be comboed after with EX Barcelona or super. It's reported he got hard nerfs so maybe those don't work anymore.
Shit and slow, trades a lot
Shit and slow, trades a lot
Decent but a really specific range
Really good but really slow
The only plus is that he can into rose, ex barcelona and super on basically anything.
Well yeah, you're right. If they were used at specific ranges and times the payout is huge though. It's like they heard Vega players ask for an antiair for so long they gave us too many in return. Still, better than having to just backdash if you didn't already jump and airthrow.
Oh yeah, forgot about jump air throw, that one's so great and stylish.
Nobody gonna jump in on you when you land that shit.
Vega vs the corner is still 9/1 though, hope he gets a better punch v-reversal
V-Reversals already sounded really bad, but then I was linked a tweet by Jwong (I think it was) who said that they are all so slow that you can see when they go for it and throw them clean out of it if you attacked with a low enough recovery move like a jab or a meaty.
People calling for Vega nerfs really don't understand how bad he is in the corner.
Yeah some of his stuff could use some adjustment but jesus fucking christ, if Mika gets him into the corner it's basically game over.
That's the point though, v-reversal is a tool to get out of predictable pressure and keep your momentum against a panicking opponent, it's not a damage tool, it's not a DP and it's not something to just brainlessly throw out.
If Mika gets anyone in the corner it's basically game over, her corner game is fucking crazy. Between her irish whip reset and the ability to tick command throw in either direction her corner game is fucking monstrous.
It just doesn't seem valuable and now it sounds OS-able with some practice. Especially if you're playing someone like Bison with a three stock that can't be built without getting bopped in certain matchups. It does seem like a hard thing to balance, granted.
Just another tool to use correctly.
Granted, it's more useful on certain characters, most notably ones without a good reversal already.Though the range on Ryu's (the one I played with most) makes it pretty useful against pokes and people trying to dash in behind a safe normal.
I just want Vega to get one that's actually useful since it would really help cover a huge flaw in his character, for a cost. Especially since he can do rose off anything and only has two stocks, makes the tradeoff rather balanced.
Seth doesn't have a dick
>I need you Alex
Hugo is the funnest character I have no idea how to play.
Went ahead and dug up the conversation. I know somewhere VesperArcade has also mentioned that you can still plink and OS but the methods are a little different in SFV.
I play the slowest, lamest Hugo and I've been beating Bisons all over the southeast. He's the most fun you can have. I had no idea how good crouching strong was until I started throwing it out to deal with roundhouse and Blanka buttons.
Does anyone TRULY know how to play Hugo?
My name used to be I need you Hugo but I changed it when the VA leaked
Is it really a good idea to go Charlie for rushdown?
I'd think Ken or Chun would be a better option.
Also, does anyone know what counters Bison's c.mp scissor trap? I've come up against it once or twice and nothing seems to get me out of it excepting an alpha counter.