/v/ I need your advice.
After seeing all the new gameplay vids of Fallout 4 I loved it and I went and pre-ordered the game, everywhere I go every video game related forum I go to everybody is extremely excited and hyped for this game like me and were all pretty much in agreement that its gonna be the game of the year.
But then I come here and everybody hates it, Is it really that bad? Should i cancel my pre-order? Please tell me what im missing.
Not everyone is a blind, gullible, console casual fag, that believes marketing bullshit and appreciates extreme dumbing down of gameplay and visuals.
>Implying not all three ideas are great in some way
Listen, one-sided fuck. If you truly loved fallout 1 and 2 because of complexity, go fucking play more cRPGs. That kind of RPG style of gaming is now considered (or always have been) niche and its fine. Fallout 3 style of RPG hit the first person shooter-aspect and it puts YOU into the perspective instead of a god camera. Its also fine.
Seriously that pic triggers me so hard because all gameplay from all Fallouts were unique in their own way. But its because of 1 and 2 that I enjoy Baldurs Gate and Arcanum. Its because of Fallout 3 and NV and I enjoy more modern story-rich FPS like Borderlands (its a meme i guess? Idk its fun whatever).
Goddammit Imma play video games now. Its Friday anyway.
$60 is still a shitton for a game. Gunna wait for a GOTY edition or a huge price drop like I did with the others. Fuck AAA pricing.
they're still marketing the new FO games as "open ended RPG experiences", but all I see is a console FPS with level-up system and a simple inventory.
First person view is also seriously overrated and overused nowadays. No wonder the little fucks can't play anything different these days.
I understand there's going to be nothing like the ol days of RPG and yes it does seem to be casualized. But name me a better form of persepctive that puts you into the character itself other than inside the eyes. You can't. Thats why I enjoy that. You are the character, it's the biggest meme devs are going to push but it works.
>But name me a better form of persepctive that puts you into the character itself other than inside the eyes
I personally have such strong sense of immersion when playing the game, I don't need the first person view. Hell, I played most of the time in FO3 in third person, just to SEE who I am. Then there's games like Silent Hill 1-3, that spooked me out very hard, no matter the 3rd person view.
Well I think /v/ is needed to counter all the Bethesdrones going "omg FO4 is gonna be GOTY" , "Todd is god", "Bethesda can do no wrong".
I am pretty sure the game's gonna be fun for a lot of hours if one does not mind the outdated graphics, bugs and dumbed down roleplaying aspects. However, if you want a real RPG and not a FPS-RPG-light-mix you'll probably be disappointed.
when i beat Fallout 1 i never wanted it to end.
it's 2015 now and Fallout 4 is coming out. think about that.
i'm not the only one who had a great experience and can't let Fallout go. Fallout is just a scope into our own humanity, you know our collective future is coming to that.
You are obviously new to 4chan. I'll explain how this works.
See, this happens every time a new release in a AAA-rated game series comes out. Whether the attitude prevails depends largely on the game, but Bethesda games in particular have a pattern:
>Your favorite is probably the first one you played.
>The sequel's about to come out; they changed it, now it sucks. Critical opinion sharpens the closer the game is to reality. Thinking it may be a blunder will become a boycott.
>You will enjoy the sequel less, but still play it, and maybe even buy it.
>Once conversation starts and everyone needs to look smart, just like with wine tasting, everyone will suddenly become unrealistically critical, and only the critical voices will carry weight.
>After a few weeks, the pretensions drop and /v/ spends the next three years playing, modding, and discussing the game.
It's called lying to yourself to the point where you believe yourself. It's too mainstream and too many people like it so everyone here convinces themselves they are special unique snowflakes with really sharp edges who hate it, even though it's not out.
>all that TL;DR
>literally playing isometric 2D boring old crap
Can only go through dialogue options once
Press X to critical
It's your average watered down Bethesda experience. The most in depth games are always their first ones and without fail, they water them down with each new entry.
then youll probably enjoy the game, if you think it looks good buy it.
I dont think I will, everything I've seen looks like they made it casual as fuck, more of an FPS than RPG
And i insist you trhow this pic onto their faces.
The dialogue options have went downhill but the skills are literally the fucking same. Fallout 1 has just crammed everything onto a single screen. Fallout 3 had the stats and the perks in separate categories and now Fallout 4 has given you bigger vault boy pictures for each one with the available perks underneath each one.
What a shit image, the top part should just be cut off.
>The game looks like a straight downgrade of previous titles
>It's a buggy mess
>They had 7 years to do this, and only came up with two endings
>"You're just being overly critical"
No dude, it looks like trash, Bethesda is a terrible company.
The people complaining about things like graphics and gameplay in a Bethout game are hopelessly naive or willfully ignorant. I'll admit I'm disappointed about the glaring flaws already evident, but at no time was I ever surprised. Elder Scrolls and Fallout 3's strengths did not involve either graphics or gameplay. Or, hell, good writing for that matter. Their appeal lies elsewhere, in things like modding and (heavily flawed) immersion.
I'll still be playing it anyway, and if you really are interested in it, give it a try by file-share.
The fact that it's using an engine that was outdated in 2008 should tell you what a lazy cashgrab it it.
But bethdrones are retarded anyone and would hail it as the second coming even if it were full of microtransactions.
The picture says it all. Fallout 3 dog, upgraded Fallout 4 dog.
Now post the picture of the original Dogmeat back when the idea was original too instead of Bethesda sitting down with a checklist of "All Things Fallout" and going....
Brotherhood - Check
Dog companion - Check
Enclave - Check
regardless of setting, location, or whatever.
look, as much as i hate to say it; mods will fix it,
just dont buy it on release (or better yet dont buy it at all, pirate it), its gonna be a buggy mess like every other bethesda game since oblivion
Holy fucking shit I want to rip up my floorboards and dive underground to escape this fucking videogame like in the dexter's lab movie
send fucking help government agents that monitor 4chan
we're dying over here
we are americans you have to do something
There was nothing to fix with the teeth. The idea was that the mutation had pulled their lips back to permanently bearing their fangs at shit.
That was fucking design you tard.
dragon age 2 was beyond saving
its possible it is the worst seventh generation game in existence, its that bad
i did and it was honeslty better than the shitfest that was day 1 skyrim
/v/ just hates to admit it will be good because then they will be on the same side as 'all these casuls xd' they HATE that, so they have no other choice than bash the game. Don't listen to ANY of these negative posts, they are all born out of some superiority complex. Fallout 4 will be good, it will win GOTYs, /v/ is hilariously assblasted and is in FULL damage control mode, posting webms of minor bugs to feel better about themselves for loving shit games like Undertale or whatever meme game is the hip thing to play this month.
Dialog wheel is the fucking cancer that ruined this serious.
Just look at the fucking choices. What the fuck is my character going to say when I pick sarcastic? Fuck you? Or a proper answer? Disagreement or agreement. This is the laziest fucking shit I have ever seen.
>ruined this serious.
>What is my character going to say when I pick Sarcastic?
I'm going to guess they'll say something sarcastic, largely based on the cues given from whatever was just said to them.
They should have just gone the DX:HR route and let the menu expand to show what you were going to say. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say shit about Human Revolution's dialog wheel.
>Guilds n Shit
Are you fucking kidding me
Of course, it was okay vanilla, but Mods and the Expansion packs made it so you could build your own house.
Skyrim may be fucking casual normie game, but it does a good job of providing a pretty customizable experience, for an FPS RPG made by Bethesda.
Fallout 4 looks to be pretty similar. I'm not really into RPGs, but I'll probably pirate it or some shit anyway, like with most AAA games.
Let's talk about a real game now, anybody here hyped for the new Mirrors Edge?
the person you're looking for throughout the whole game is your son(wow where did I hear that one before, good job bethesda) and when you find him he ends up.being a villain which you must kill. So you either kill him or the.commonwealth gets nuked
>yfw cutscenes are rendered in-engine with the same graphics as the gameplay
that's actually how the dog looks in-game.
The question was "Are you a synth"
Now when I pick sarcastic, is my character going to say
>Yeah. I am totally a human.
>Yeah. I am totally a robot.
Both answer are sarcastic but both answers convey a different message. Do you see the flaw now? Sarcastic what?
"Yeah I'm totally a Synth here to steal all of your children in the night and turn them into robots."
It's pretty clear that he's encountering someone that's asking him if he's a synth, probably defensively.
D-Dog has a downgraded model outside MB
Serious question: What issues will be impossible to fix with mods? I'm not saying the game should get a free pass because mods, it shouldn't, but assuming people actually want to mod this I can see-
>Actual perk/skill system
>Better animations/lip sync
>Removal of handholding/character saying random stupid shit
>Bigger world with more to do
What am I missing?
And what is stopping Bethesda from having the MC say "Fuck you".
Need I remind you that picking "sarcastic answer" and getting "fuck you" as what your character said is actually a very real scenario that happened in another game.
>there will be 3 different emojis
It's sad that this isn't even that farfetched.
yeah man look at how much it's downgraded fallout doge looks so much better
>not baka desu senpai
>Better animations/lip sync
Hahahaha no. You see modders have tried to do that in Skyrim but none of that took off. You know why? Cause Bethesda are ultra hacks and tied all animation to skeleton. So to make a new animation, you had to build a new model from ground up including skeleton which was simply too much work for what it was worth.
You can like games that others dont.
You can be excited for new games, and not give a fuck.
You can even try and convince people its a good game with your opinions.
But DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT pay into one of the worst practices in the industry. Pre-ordering is a huge cancer for the consumer. They lock content and future work ethic behind it. Its literal real life spam haveing workers hound you to pre-order it. By pre-ordering, you now give shitty companies a single goal: buy it. Not "we make money on good games", its "We make money if we advertise the shit out of it.". You are literally buying into the mystery box now. You are paying money for what might be absolute shit because you somehow thought theyd...run out? Its the fucking digital age. If you couldnt wait for a physical copy (lets be honest, you wont find a place without them), then theres no way youd miss out with digital shit.
I think you're all forgetting tnat no other game is similiar to TES and fallout. I've been searching for a very.long time but nothing suffices. So the reason I personally am mad is because I want the series.to get better and better time because I'm so used to it. That doesnt mean Im happy with the removal of skills which were there since the fucking start. Obviously the series is headed to a wrong direction. I only hope obsidian gets access to the game again and makes another game based on 4, but adds skills and other removed feautures.
Imagine if skyrim removed skills entirely and just added a few perks in
What a fucking shitshow that would had been
>What am I missing /v/?
The fact that you are a normie drone and the game is geared specifically towards you. You can't notice a difference or drop in quality, you can only be excited.
You should just get out and be happy man. Why are you here. Live in ignorance while it lasts. One day you'll realize how shallow modern FO is, but for the time being just be a happy clueless drone.
You character telling them "No I'm a washing machine" is also a very real possibility.
I'm all for knowing exactly what your character is going to say, especially in situations where you can actively create how your character acts (Fallout 4, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect are all very much a middle ground, you can only slightly change how your character acts) but in this case it's more likely that your character will react in a rather known way, he will be some kind of an asshole, possibly attempt some snark.
It's not like L.A. Noire's famous Doubt, since that had zero context to it.
>You are paying money for what might be absolute shit because you somehow thought theyd...run out?
A valid point, I never did fathom how some sites could show a "sold out" (Apple did this once, I think) on a digital product.
Having said that, there is the cost of bandwidth, which is not zero.
>condemning something for being original/niche/underused and embracing the game essentially becoming yet another watered down FPS, something the market is fucking saturated with
Yeah, my end goal is to have every single game being the exact same, but with different titles. That'd be the most fun to me.
The problem we keep having with everyone loving KT and /v/ hating it is because both ends of the spectrum are at the utmost extreme. Every other forum you'll visit is going to hype Fallout 4 in GOTY status long before we have any solid evidence of what it'll be like. Meanwhile, /v/ is so ludicrously focused on pointing out why its shit that they completely ignore any interesting or even kinda fun mechanics.
Form your own opinion, OP, because your only other choices are to ride the hype train or fall so deep into disgust that you won't even want to talk about it.
Just look at skyrim m8, the mods are always about tiny shit. Better wood textures, anime porn, two swords, horse porn, slightly improved texture on the handle of one dagger, inflatable tits.
Nobody even bothers fixing the quests or lore.
Silent Hill 2 is much more immersive and it's 3rd person.
Zdzisław Beksiński paintings are much more immersive than the modern fallouts and it's just one fucking image and not even interactive.
If a camera anchor coordinate makes you feel "immersed", you're actually delusional and buying into the marketing. You're dumb, clueless, ignorant, moronic.
FP literally changes nothing in terms of immersion, it's literally a camera coordinate. The game was changed visually to look more like CoD. Fucking normalfags.
>RPG elements like skills have been "streamlined" (by being cut out entirely)
>criticals are no longer lucky hits, but attacks that you charge up like magic and manually trigger whenever you want in VATS
>dialog system is now worse than Bioware's wheel
>voiced protag means less content, hard to mod in quests
>map size is not impressive
>graphics are only barely improved from Fallout 3
>setting looks pretty much the same as Fallout 3
I don't know how it's generating so much hype, really.
and this is the best I could make dogmeat look in that bullshot trailer CUTSCENE
top kek I say, top kek
Those quotes about goty and Toddgod are shitposts by anons who want it to seem like an opposing voice is needed. I have seen a ton of threads accusing Reddit of thinking this but if you read shit there you can see the same exact complaints obeing voiced there as here. Basically it is a mountain of shitposting taking itself seriously.
Modern Bethesda games are the instant coffee of gaming. To the majority of people out there it tastes fine, it does it's job, many enjoy it. To people with higher standards it's revolting. Whenever someone from here confronts someone who drinks this stuff and calls it shit, their response would be "Dude, it's just coffee. Why do you have to be so negative? I drink it because I like it."
Graphics and story are going to be amazing v is just shitty. They've been bitching about that indivisible game all week and it's pretty cool too. Only problem I might have with fo4 is that it migh not be custom Rpg like previous ones but then again I've hardly looked into it and can be wrong.
Enjoy fo4 man.
But what does coffee have to do with video games?
>Graphics and story are going to be amazing v is just shitty
you see, there's the problem, you claim to be less shitty yet you make the same shitty assumptions just on the other end of the spectrum about something that is not even out yet
if you were truly less shitty than /v/, you would not claim anything neither positive nor negative and see for yourself once the game is out
but you're just as shitty as we are and you've proven that
>Graphics and story are going to be amazing v is just shitty
I don't think "Graphics are going to be better than before" equates to "amazing". And Bethesda is notorious for poor writing standards, maybe you don't really know what good writing is if you think Skyrim and FO3 had "amazing" writing?
What you're seeing going on here OP is warring factions of marketing companies.
Because of things that have happened in the past the idea now is that if these companies shit all over each others games and generally talk down everything that they can they then discredit all negative talk about everything that goes on here. It allows them to successfully hide their shit in amongst it too giving them the excuse that everything is called shit here and that just because people call it shit doesn't actually mean it is shit.
In fact though most modern games are pretty shit so it's not all that far from the truth.
Personally I'm really looking forward to Fallout 4 as I do with all these sorts of games. I always make my own judgements and have been making sure I don't listen to any forms of press, or indeed, hype for many many years.
There is no correct way to "Listen" to /v/ because /v/ is a collective group of similar and varying ideals, so making your own opinion and gaining your own taste is crucial.
You're obviously retarded OP because asking /v/'s opinion on any topic, is the most retarded thing you can do in life.
/v/ hates most games, and the games they don't hate are almost always shit games.
What the fuck with F4's Dogmeat ?!
The general shape of the skull is absurd and is that supposed to be a German Shepherd ? Because I got one and she doesn't look like that.. Thing. At all.
People bitch, moan, and complain when developers lie to their faces with amazing graphics in demos and trailers and deliver a subpar looking game like with Watch Dogs. And yet, when Bethesda is HONEST and shows what the game will actually look like upon release in their demos and trailers, people STILL bitch, moan, and complain. People are never fucking satisfied. To all the idiots bitching about the graphics, fuck off and go back to playing The Order 1886 and other shit games founded on graphics only and let us true gamers enjoy our games. Idiots. Idiots never change.
I am broken /v/ thanks. I spent a few months away from internet for a study abroad and let myself fall for the hype and get completely amped. Now, I see lip sync from 2004 and AI worse than N64, and something you could stretch and call dialogue options.
>/v/ is already singing MGSV's praises in comparison to FO4.
That was quick
It's silly because /v/ is praising a dead game. It's going to die in about 3 months if its lucky, all while FO will live on untill its next installment remember kids never listen to /v/irgins, there's a reason they never got laid lel.
>can't make a general statement about a trend on /v/
All work and no play
like fucking clockwork, this place is transparent as fuck
I'm just saying that when you compare MGSV to FO4 it looks like there's no point. I'm not looking past the problems I had with MGSV since there were many, but if it's relative to FO4 then I'd pick MGSV any day.
The last games I bought were 2 days ago on GoG
>Giants: Citizen Kabuto
>Fallout 1, 2 & Tactics
I have been saying for years. /v/ is full of hipsters. Fallout 4 was obviously going to be popular therefore too mainstream for /v/. /v/ will like games with the same 'problems' as Fallout 4 though as long as it isn't popular, however if it does becomes popular /v/ will start to hate it.
If you're talking about games like Vampire: Bloodlines then you're missing the point. Bethesda had every reason to polish this game whereas Troika was fucked in every hole pre-release.
Despite that, I'm sure the writing and atmosphere in Vamp will be miles about that in FO4,
>Still thinking /v/ is one person
>still thinking the community is only full of the same people
>failure to account for the fact that stupid from reddit and tumblr comes here to post
Why does everyone who shills this game type like a marketer or a teenager?
T-thank you I need it for my chemo
This is the ONLY outlet on the internuts that's showing all of this game's shortcomings. Literally every forum, reddit or message board is full of delusional shitposting and oblivious hype for the thing.
I'm not getting it right away because I'm a jew and $80 Canadian dollerydoos is too much for a base game especially when they have planned dlc for it.
I can wait for a goty version in the next year
>/v/ is suddenly pro-FO4 right before its release whereas before it was the only website that did not blatantly ignore the issues in the game
It's Amiibo all over again.
I don't know what to tell you man. I truly hated Fallout 3. Fallout 4 looks pretty fun, but I thought the same thing about 3 before I bought it.
I honest to god think its the setting/aesthetics combined with how fucking buggy the games are.
Like I feel like I should really like Fallout 3/NV/4 because I like Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim a lot. But honestly Fallouts world is so fucking disgusting to look at.
inb4 hurr durr its nuclear post apocalyptic.
Maybe so, but you can make the game at least look good while doing this. Just look at Metro, or hell even STALKER with how old that game it is doesnt look like someone smeared shit on a canvas and called it a day.
This coupled with the weapons/combat I dunno I just couldn't get into it.
I guess it really comes down to setting desu for me anyway.
My room mates getting FO4, so I'll just try his copy to see if its as fun as its looking.
I'd suggest trying to do the same especially if buggy games bother you. If theres one thing you can bet on with a Bethesda game, is that its going to be buggy as fuck, and almost no mainstream reviewers are going to point that shit out.
>extremely excited and hyped for this game
Shilling really works, like holy shit. One bullshot video, a bunch of loud faggots yelling "I'm going to preorder" every thread was enough to make people gobble up this piece of shit.
Vydia is dead. I can't wait for games complex as candy crush to be the norm.