>You will never swagger about in your tricked out carriage with your squad all the way to Alexandria where you spend so much money on ho's and jewel encrusted goblets that you literally devalue the price of gold.
Don't direct these faggots to /his/ you fucking idiot, we have enough /pol/tards trying to shitpost along with /lit/ pushing their agenda.
Not something from there. This has been on /pol/ for awhile now.
Yea since last week I think.
I found it yesterday, it's shit.
It's either a /pol/ with maps thread or a "why isn't this /pol/ with maps I'll have you know the nazis were 10 thousand years ahead technologically and all history documents past 1933 are incorrect" cock goebbling.
They also sold their population to muslim and arab slavers
read up on Tippu Tip
On his expiditions inwards into africa, the african leaders would literally sell their own people into slavery for valuables
They were keking their own people way before europeans had anything to do with it.
The reason why we see next to no african descendants in the middle east today is because the boys were castrated and the women not allowed to breed, unlike in the west were they had offspring
But nope, white people da devul
/pol/ is right, a lot of /lit/ posters from what I've seen on /his/, at least, are left. So what you get is this fucking shitflinging fest when all I do is want to discuss history.
You do realize north africa isn't black, right? Only subsaharan african countries are.
Interestingly enough blacks who travel north to morocco and such get hounded by the natives there because they dont like blacks
Confirmering for never visiting /lit/, dumb nigger.
Wasn't there a difference between how African and Muslim countries treated people sold to them (ie more like indentured servitude) compared to how Europeans and Americans treated them? (ie being worked to death for almost no wage except molasses and cornbread)
Yes. They talk about shit books and jerk each other off for who is the most pretentious and self absorbed.
>look at me I'm so smart I read 2deep4u garbage novels that make harry potter look like isaac isamov's best work
>Try it out
>Tech trees max out in the Dark Age
what the fuck is shit shit, is it a bug?
Right, forgot about those weapons threads on /k/.
It's just a bit upsetting to see the board how it is now, but I'm seeing more and more people fight back against it as time goes on, so hopefully it pulls through. I'd love for it to be permanent.
You only got freed if you converted, and even then it was up to the master
Pic is an african boy being punished by his arab master
Your logic is completely fucked. Just because someone was selling human beings as property does not mean that buying them as property somehow negates the immorality of owning people as property.
You have to be voting for Ben.
I'm thinking of the African systems of slavery.
Like I know in some parts they had what was essentially maid service, where the slaves worked in the master's house, but retained some of their freedoms.
As well as indebted slavery (ie paying off a debt)
From my studies, Europeans coming over didn't understand a lot of the African forms of servitude, and basically lumped it in with chattel slavery, convinced local tribes they were gonna help convert anyone sold to them to Christianity, then used them for cheap labor.
I find it interesting whenever someone goes "but Egypt and Africa had slaves" when the servitude systems in Africa and Egypt were different than the European and American slavery systems.
>Like I know in some parts they had what was essentially maid service, where the slaves worked in the master's house, but retained some of their freedoms.
>As well as indebted slavery (ie paying off a debt)
Yeah, and Africans also kept slaves to drown their enemies in bodies in times of war.
Yes it does.
>WHITE PEOPLE BEEN TAKING US BLACKS FROM OUR HOMES AND SELLING US AS SLAVES!
>It was actually black people who did it.
>Still blame it on whitey.
Also America was like the first country to actually stop the concept of slavery and free slaves nation wide.
>hurr hurr it was different
No, not really.
Aztecs were brutal niggers that made Conquistadors look like fucking saints.
During their four day reconsecration of the temple they sacrificed anywhere from 10,000 to 80,000 over just FOUR DAYS, and at the peak of their Empire they sacrificed roughly 250,000 people every fucking year. Their method for keeping the conquered tributary tribes in line made European feudalism look good.
There's a reason everyone hated them.
Everyone fucking hated Aztecs. Conquistadors had it easy rounding up people with them because Aztecs were plain dicks to everyone. Also in all of history, the mexican colony is the one with least adaptation problems on culture and race mixing, mainly because spaniards weren't entirely dicks and christianity introduced a more peaceful way of life. Worked for both civs.
Source: an actual spaniard descendant mexican
The argument is not specifically about who sold who or how the logistics of slavery worked.
Owning human beings as property and denying them human rights or principles of liberty is immoral.
Whether you bought them from members of the same race is irrelevant information concerning the morality of slavery and slave ownership.
If you take abandoned children and raise them as slaves, if you buy people out of situations of extreme poverty or homelessness and hold them as prisoners/slaves - whatever, owning people as property and denying them human rights is wrong regardless of unintended positive side effects or the legality of slavery.
Don't cut yourself on that edge there sephiroth.
If people criticize any member of any race for actions of individuals, they are fucked to begin with. And that's true whether you're blaming white people for slavery or whether you're performing one of the many mental gymnastics of a slavery apologist.
>America was like the first country to actually stop the concept of slavery and free slaves nation wide
>one of the last countries to do so
MFW people aren't even joking when they say this shit
1 word contrarian bait-- Don't reply!
But with that being said, welcome guys to 4chan. Enjoy your stay.
>being too lazy to look up pro slavery arguments
Not if their race is the reason they did what they did. Like nigs being unable to not be dumb violent criminal apes.
>MFW people aren't even joking when they say they consider niggers to be human
Oh, don't get me wrong, I know there's a lot of sensible pro-slavery arguments. Slavery has the potential to be benefecial to a society's economy, etc etc.
Still doesn't make it moral, m8.
They sold them primarily to the Dutch.
*takes bite of chicken*
WE SOME KINDA
Don't be a retard, of course morality exists. It's just subject to change and matter of opinion like EVERYTHING ELSE.
It actually was. When spaniards talked to conquered aztecs about it, the general opinion even among the lower (and upper classes) was basically 'ya'll all cowards who dont even sacrifice yoselves to the gods.' It was widely accepted among the aztecs to the point that if you pissed yourself on the way to the altar you were considered a pathetic beta bitch. It was a great honor and they legitimately thought nothing was wrong with it.
Everytime something new pops up in these kinds of post.
Will we ever be able to actually talk about this game, or is /pol/ going to shitpost every time?
>/lit/ pushing their agenda.
It never ceases to amuse that /pol/ literally cannot imagine that people are tired of their shitty memes so they have to make an imaginary enemy out of a board composed of ten english majors and a few murakami fans.
/lit/ doesn't give a shit about /pol/ outside telling them to fuck off their board when they try to discuss mein kampf and da joos.
These threads are just like CIV BE threads: /pol/acks talking a bunch of shit that isn't vydia.
Holy shit, /v/ moderation is trash.
>The Arab slave trade typically dealt in the sale of castrated male slaves. Black boys between the age of 8 and 12 had their scrotums and penises completely amputated to prevent them from reproducing. About six of every 10 boys bled to death during the procedure, according to some sources, but the high price brought by eunuchs on the market made the practice profitable.
Should I get the entire thing for $13?
Or just AoE II for $4?
Then that's all people need to keep doing.
It's almost like someone is magnetically compelled to reply to someone who is blatantly shitting up the thread.
Here's a protip on how to reply to a troll: Just don't!
Says the guy probably taking it up the bum from Tyrone the Somali refugee.
>castrated blacks to prevent being keked
white countries can learn from these bearded men
>hide all racist posts
>20 posts actually talking about the game
/v/ - Video games
WE WUZ ROYALTY?
SHEEEEEEEEIT, SHANEEQUA COME LOOK AT THIS.
/his/ provided some beautiful context on it recently.
Racism is on the rise in europe thanks to refugees, wouldn't surprise if in a few decades the stereotype ends up reversed.
No it doesn't, it doesn't negate the immorality of it. It just shows how you can't blame white people exclusively for this trade. It wasn't a race thing in the first place, as these different people traded. But we shouldn't judge the past through modern-day moral lenses anyway.
>We will never have a game with Mansa Musa because if we do /pol/ will shit on it.
I hate life...
>Africans used to be kings and have large civilizations
>Now living in huts, small villiages, or corrupt towns run by warlords, and are ever being slaughtered by one another
>Middle Easterners used to be a noble and beautiful people with beautiful cities and rich culture, even invented Algebra
>Now living in caves, ruins, and on mountains, forever at war with each other because one group can't get over the fact that the other believes in a different God, claiming peace and prosperity while severing their heads, while others feud for decades upon decades over split fucking land to the point where their people no longer care about the land, and just want to kill each other "because."
Strange how cultures change in such dramatic ways, really.
>all those butthurt retards bitching about racism
You come to a website which has always been notorious for it's blatant sexism and racism then bitch about it when you find sexism and racism here? Do you know how retarded that is?
Empire they sacrificed roughly 250,000 people every fucking year.
Source? How is that even possible in that time period? I'd guess there'd only be about 5 million people in south america at the time, maybe less.
We don't care about racism, we're trying to discuss a game.
You literally have an entire board to shitpost about niggers and spics.
And fuck nobody's getting offended because you said nigger or because of your shitty WE WUZ meme, annoyance isn't the same as offence.
the africans living in huts now have always lived in huts. beyond that, african civilisation has never been as advanced as it is now.
This is always amusing to me. It's like 90% of African Americans fail to understand or even accept that they were sold by their own people, and act like white people weren't slaves during the Dark Ages to corrupt religion and kings.
>/pol/ is getting this triggered by afro people in digital form.
This is just getting sad, /pol/ literally made me not a racist anymore.
>If I want a game with a black in it I'm a liberal.
What's will you think of next?
>muh pole obsession
Why does that board cause so much butthurt? Why do people need to bring it up everywhere out of the blue?
Niggers and jews, anon oh yea at pussywhiped /v/irgin betas. Why do you think the sjws infiltrated the vidya industry so easy?
No one is butthurt, we are just annoyed by the constant shit that /pol/ brings. This is a video game board and we can barely talk about video games because of those dumbasses everytime someone wants to discuss this game it always devolves into "We wuz kingz" or "SHEEEIT" memes, it gets annoying hearing the same shit every damn time.
you just proved what he said also there is nothing wrong in the op pic the Malians had like 2 dynasties and they were influenced by arabs and berbers their kingdom got deafted by Moroccans
>Butthurt is the same as annoyed
Nigga please I justexplained that hearing the same jokes over and over again gets annoying. It's the same as hearing the same song for 3 days straight, it starts out funny but slowly gets boring and then it gets annoying. If /pol/ did this kind of shit on every other board, what makes you think that they won't do it on this one?
Then ignore it, you redditor/tv/tumblr fucks. Stop derailing every thread with your complaints.
There's nothing to get. African americans (read intellectual niggers) try to force their view that egypt was built and run by black africans (among other things and thatn Hannibal and the carthaginians were black) and not middle-easterners/egyptians as we really know them. They're called afrocentrists and are annoying
But they were incredibly prosperous and clean people.
Sounds like that sacrificing was an effective method of population control to prevent the many problems modern society face.
And it worked.
Me wanting to talk about the game makes me from these places?
They were funny at first like I said but it gets annoying hearing them all the damn time m8. If they did it once in awhile it'd be hilarious but not when they constantly do it.
Like this, this is funny.
You and everyone else who is claiming as such are RETARDED if you think morality does not change depending on context.
Everyone can agree killing is wrong, and yet under a certain circumstance, you can justify killing and say that doing otherwise is actually the immoral choice.
Morality is infact very subjective, it exists and is necessary and it is subject to change.
>mfw whitheys gets blamed for everything
>invented the Sub-Saharan slave trade
>biggest racists in the world, don't even treat fellow Arabs as equals
>still own slaves today
>waste their oil money on pointless things
>use slaves to build pointes cities
>playing random map
>everyone laughs at me
>going against teutons and huns
>"WE'LL SEE ABOUT THAT FAGGOTS"
>cant go to feudal age
Every modern city and area in Africa was built by a colonial power.
Black kingdoms should really have the special ability to send their citizens to other nations and gradually lower every output resource and overall happiness, like a virus.
>yfw if black americans didnt exist the national average for IQ would increase a full 15 points
>find out of le 4chan on r/4chan
>finally gather the courage to go there despite all the hacker pedophile terrorists
>mfw theyre racists
fucking kill yourselves what the FUCK
>Can't play as the best African king of them all
yea, pretty much, but it's pointless to discuss it here when most of the people are just focused on relieving whites of any wrong doings and spout memes.
If you want to discuss african history go to 4+4chan's history board or some history forum
>yeah, pretty much
you missed his point entirely. He clearly said that African kings sold their own people, which is true, and shares the blame for that historical event. He never said that they did no wrong.
Also its a lie that Americans worked them to death. Some American slaves had it pretty good, some didn't. Some stayed, some didn't.
Ironic you pretend to care about historical accuracy yet none of it is present in your post.
I would add that there is still slavery in Africa to this day, meanwhile "evil whites" abolished slavery 150 years ago.
Bit more historical accuracy for you. Ironically nobody cares that slavery still exists in parts of Africa because its black on black "crime."
>Ironic you pretend to care about historical accuracy yet none of it is present in your post.
what do you mean? There was a difference in how africans treated their slaves.
Slavery in African cultures was generally more like indentured servitude, although in certain parts of sub-Saharan Africa, slaves were used for human sacrifices in annual rituals, such as those rituals practiced by the denizens of Dahomey. Slaves were often not the chattel of other men, nor enslaved for life.
The Muslim societies had chattel slavery, but they weren't really the people europeans bought most of their slaves from.
>He clearly said that African kings sold their own people, which is true, and shares the blame for that historical event
I don't at all deny that.
>Also its a lie that Americans worked them to death
it did happen, im not sure how often but it did happen.
>The first phase of a $20 million study of slave skeletons from the city's recently discovered African Burial Ground indicates that many of them even children were literally worked to death
Though you're probably not denying it never happened, just denying that it happened enough to say 'american slaves were worked to death'. Also I know slaves in Brazil had a really high mortality rate.
>Some American slaves had it pretty good, some didn't. Some stayed, some didn't.
this is true as well.
>I would add that there is still slavery in Africa to this day
>meanwhile "evil whites" abolished slavery 150 years ago.
>Ironically nobody cares that slavery still exists in parts of Africa because its black on black "crime."
Or because it doesn't at all affect their lives, and there is really no way to stop it right now.
You're kidding right, I myself have posted in many xpac threads and they have all died under 30 posts in. On release day too. I look and see this thread, THE FIRST thread I've seen with 200 replies, and its filled with shitposting. Its shitposting or dead threads.
"This is not some softened, by-modern-standards definition of slavery. These 30 million people are living as forced laborers, forced prostitutes, child soldiers, child brides in forced marriages and, in all ways that matter, as pieces of property, chattel in the servitude of absolute ownership. Walk Free investigated 162 countries and found slaves in every single one. But the practice is far worse in some countries than others."
"The country that is most marked by slavery, though, is clearly India. There are an estimated 14 million slaves in India – it would be as if the entire population of Pennsylvania were forced into slavery. The country suffers deeply from all major forms of slavery, according to the report. Forced labor is common, due in part to a system of hereditary debt bondage; many Indian children are born "owing" sums they could never possibly pay to masters who control them as chattel their entire lives. Others fall into forced labor when they move to a different region looking for work, and turn to an unlicensed "broker" who promises work but delivers them into servitude. The country's caste system and widespread discrimination abet social norms that make it easier to turn a blind eye to the problem. Women and girls from underprivileged classes are particularly vulnerable to sexual slavery, whether under the guise of "child marriages" or not, although men and boys often fall victim as well."
"Two other bright red regions are Southeast Asia and Eastern Europe. Both are blighted particularly by sex trafficking, a practice that bears little resemblance to popular Western conceptions of prostitution."
I thought the same thing when I saw it on Steam yesterday.
>mfw /pol/ moment